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Pepe the Frog Is Dead (theguardian.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: The creator of Pepe the Frog has symbolically killed off the cartoon frog, effectively surrendering control of the character to the far right. Matt Furie, an artist and children's book author, created the now-infamous frog as part of his "Boy's Club" series on MySpace in 2005. Pepe took on a life of its own online as a meme, before being eventually adopted as a symbol by the "alt-right" in the lead-up to last year's U.S. election. In September, Hillary Clinton identified Pepe the Frog as a racist hate symbol, and Pepe was added to the Anti-Defamation League's database of hate symbols. Furie launched a campaign to "Save Pepe," flooding the internet with "peaceful or nice" depictions of the character in a bid to shake its association with white supremacy and antisemitism. But he now seems to have conceded defeat, killing the character off in a one-page strip for the independent publisher Fantagraphics' Free Comic Book Day. It showed Pepe laid to rest in an open casket, being mourned by his fellow characters from Boy's Club.
Drawing more attention to a meme isn't really the best way to kill it off. Now it's all Jesus-motif Pepes.
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Who else will Ms. Piggy cheat with to make Kermit the Frog jealous?
Feels Bad Man.
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You can't kill a cartoon character. You can drop an anvil on his head. You can slingshot him into a mountain. You can blow him up with TNT. All these things (and more) happen to a particular coyote, and yet every week, he still comes back. Maybe limping and wrapped in bandages, or blackened from the explosion, but alive nonetheless.
Dibs on the legs.
Personally, I blame the people who defamed the frog. Not the strawman reason for why they did it.
Yeah really... as far as I can tell, the "alt right" just made Pepe into a pro-Trump symbol. So, they're saying that supporting (or even not despising) the otherwise democratically elected president of the United States is "hate"? Historically, this sort of thing doesn't end well.
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God you people are thicc..
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may pepe forgive me for this bad correction.
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4chan did it exactly for this reason.
They saw normal celebrities using the meme and wanted to ruin it, so several hundred people worked together to make it seem like racists and anti semites were behind it.
I know because I am one of them. I'm also Jewish.
Mission so fucking accomplished.. You have no idea how many times I've laid in bed at night jacking off to Hillary putting him on the same list as the Swastika. It is a magnum opus of trolling and manipulation.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09...
Maybe because he feels that Pepe has become a symbol of a collection of people whose beliefs he finds disturbing and he'd rather not profit by catering to them.
Money isn't everything.
Basically, in World of Warcraft when a horde player typed "lol" into chat an alliance player would see "kek" because Blizzard made it so each faction couldn't chat with each other (was kind of fun really).
It evolved from there as it became an inside joke for "lol" or any kind of trolling in general.
The simplest way to understand it: trolls (horde) laughing and normies (alliance) not able to understand it.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/...
You're why we can't have nice things.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
He's more popular than ever.
You've apparently confused Pepe for an entirely unrelated creative work that shares the same name and appearance as Pepe, but which is mostly certainly not Pepe. Given that Pepe is wholly owned by his creator and that his creator just killed Pepe off, Pepe is dead. Suggesting otherwise would mean that Pepe is not wholly owned by his creator, in which case you've just stripped his creator of the rights afforded by copyright, which suggests you don't align very well with the side you appear to be espousing.
Either Pepe is dead or copyright is dead. I'd say it's your choice, but it isn't, since the law makes it pretty clear that Pepe's the one that's dead, and you're simply mistaken.
As for this site making you throw up, it sounds like you may be experiencing high levels of stress. Might I suggest not being so invested in your own viewpoints that hearing alternative ones bothers you so? I'm still registered as a Republican* last I checked, but nothing about this article leaves me queasy in the least, other than that this guy's work was illegally co-opted against his will for something he finds abhorrent.
*Disclaimer: I didn't vote in the last election. I decided that no matter which was the lesser of two evils, I could not, in good conscience, support either of the sides. Ditto for the third-parties, who all looked to be as crazy as a bag of nuts this last time around.
Only people who made Pepe an "alt-right hate symbol" were Hillary, the ADL, the MSM, and their idiot lapdogs like you. The article posted on Hillary's own campaign website used as their sole source of evidence a parody Twitter account (@JaredTSwift) that was clearly labeled as such. Of course liberals like yourself never bothered to look past the headlines because they can't help but jerk themselves off constantly about how racist everyone in America is, aside from themselves (which is why they need to conjure up hate crime hoaxes every other day).
Now that /pol/ knows the true depth of liberal stupidity, they've been inventing hate symbols on the daily. Soon smiling will be considered racist patriarchy by liberals and the MSM. Talk about an embarrassment to Americans.
WOW. You really don't get it do you? YOU'RE the reason, Hillary is the reason, the ADL is the reason not some guy (or group of people) who trolled them knowing he/they would get a rise out of them such that they'd do something shit assed stupid & claim a frog is a 'symbol of racism'.
You & they don't even realize they are nearly as stupid as the guy who showed up at a Pizza parlor because of 'Pizzagate', while the former is more immediately worrisome because he brought a gun, the latter of vastly more worrisome to society as they've clearly dropped all pretense of thinking.
I mean...was there a single decent meme created by the left during the 16 election cycle? With the likes of Carl the Cuck and AIDS Skrillix, Low Energy Jeb etc, the left came up with uh...."Love Trumps Hate"....rofl. For supposed tech-savvy millennials, you guys really dropped the ball on the internets in 2016
I never heard of Pepe the Frog before the Left branded it a "hate" symbol. The Alt-Right gets all its needed publicity from the Left going nuts over it.
Political Version of Streisand Effect. By publicizing how awful it is, you're given them more publicity than if everyone simply ignored them. Good Job
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Pepe is dead, the same way Batman is dead. Killing him off didn't end him, he was just resurrected.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
The "alt right" didn't do anything. The entire thing was a farce created by 4chan. They do it for the lulz. The mainstream media is absolutely retarded and when they see a bunch of Twitter posts about something they jump on it and run with it. For another example, see how they got a bunch of idiots to report on the "OK" hand gesture being a secret symbol for white power.
You say they did it for that reason, but I'm not seeing reason anywhere.
"I decided to shit in the middle of the floor. Why? So people will see my poop and maybe even step in it. That's the reason, it's a magnum opus of trolling and manipulation!"
If you're ripping off people you don't like, your emotions have already gotten in the way.
Perhaps he meant cultural control, not legal control. After all copyright rarely interferes with things spreading organically regardless of the copyright holder's wishes.
While there is an element of truth in what you say, it's also true that people exploit the broad license given to humor for purposes other than getting a laugh. The lines between advocacy, humor, and trolling are increasingly blurred.
What matters in the current media environment isn't ideas, it's attitudes. It doesn't really matter that Obama isn't a Muslim; what matter is how hearing somebody say that makes you feel. An idea like this has political power even for people who don't actually believe it
This is what "telling it like it is" is all about; it doesn't mean saying things that correspond to some objective truth; it's about a kind of subjective authenticity. "Telling it like it is" means speaking with sincere feeling, even when contradicting yourself. It doesn't matter which alternative version of reality you presented is true (if either is). Philosophers have only recently begun to examine such truth-irrelevant utterances, and the term they use for it is "bullshit".
The claim of humor arises when you try to nail someone's bullshit politics down, but if you look at the alleged joke, it's invariably not humorous, it's just smug. There is such a thing as political humor, but it by definition takes a position. Alt-right "humor" is all about arousing feelings without being tied to any falsifiable position.
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Element of truth? It's true. It's what happened. People decided to troll the media, and the media bought it - hook, line, and sinker - because they do ZERO fact checking.
The "alt-right" (which itself is just a label the media tries to apply in an attempt to attack people and groups) had nothing to do with it. At all. It was all fake. And the media, who is so concerned about "fake news", did what it does best and pushed fake news.
You go on about some bullshit about feelings and humor and again, the alt-right.
I gave you a factual account of what happened. It had nothing to do with feelings or the alt-right. It had to do with the media being played for the fucking idiots that they are. Regardless of your politics, seeing that play out exactly as fucking planned is fucking hilarious.
You're making this way too easy for us. I posted an infographic labelled "White Supremacist Hand Symbols" that I found on 4chan on a troll meme page I run, it got shitloads of shares on various liberal pages. What they didn't seem to realise was that it was the American sign language alphabet. You'd think after having multiple such instances of this kind of ridicule (particularly the whole "white power" ok symbol), people would stop being so deranged. But sites like the Guardian all double down on their stupidity. Y'all need to stop before people like me discover the trolling singularity and hit the point of no return.
Personally, I feel if you don't vote, you have no right to complaint and I would love that the govt (regardless of which party is in power) to strip the rights from you. Kinda like the purge.
So, effectively, you support stripping people of their First Amendment rights by compelling them to voice support for a candidate, any candidate, lest they be stripped of all their other rights?
To say the least, I heartily disagree. I don't recommend others abstain, nor do I take it lightly, nor do I consider it acceptable just because one is feeling lazy, but I reject the notion that anyone can compel me to voice support for something I don't support, and I'd advise you to do so as well.
You should not automatically categorize people as "anti-semitic", "homophobic", "racist", "white nationalist", etc just because they oppose your political aims. You caused a cascade of events when you kept up that behavior.
Take for example all the factory workers who have lost their jobs since globalization began. They, according to Warren Buffet, are "road kill". When they protest, you do what? Call them all of the above.
There are far more categories of people than just those. You need to stop.
Mate, 4chan didn't make Pepe a fake hate symbol. Their (or your) actions made Pepe a genuine hate symbol. You can call spreading hate speech "trolling" if you like, but it's still hate speech and will be called out as such.
And none of this "fooled" the main stream media. They reported on actual real events as they unfolded in real life. You might have caused those events, but they certainly were not fake. And yes, real life includes social media.
You might believe your fascist cavorting online is merely performative and so no harm is done, but when real people brush up against your performance they only see a Nazi.
In other words, you have it exactly backwords. In Real Life you are a genuine actual Nazi, it is only your online alterego that is a harmless prankster. Have fun you destructive little shit.
The ADL said (unless it changed) that people were using Pepe for bad things, but that he was popular in general.
it said to use the context to make your determination. all the ADL was comment that he was being used as you were using him, but that he was not a hateful context free and to use your brain.
It was an accurate one paragraph description that would inform someone trying to figure out what this from in a storm trooper uniform was.
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So Matt Furie demolishes his own house because the media wouldn't stop bugging him about how Twitter nazis were building similar looking houses and throwing wild parties in them. Despite the ADL explicitly stating that "the majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted", pro-Clinton journalists continued in their all-out effort to remove this thorn from Clinton's side. Their tactic, as usual, was to divide an unwelcome movement by shaming those susceptible to the fallacy of guilt by association. Any author could have just said "fanfic isn't my problem". Of course, the media would not have stopped until the guilt struck home so who knows how long one could withstand them. In the end some non-racist Pepe fans stopped having innocent giggles, and Furie took a sledgehammer to his creation, all merely to publicly gesture their CONCERN with baddies having had fun in tangentially the same way -- essentially handing over their personal autonomy to hand-wringing busybodies who write glorified blogs.
A: Look at this Pepe meme with a swastika armband, are you CONCERNED that you're also spreading Pepe memes on twitter?
B: My memes have no Nazi iconography, they're Smug Pepes with poofy blond hair that symbolize Trump's shameless trolling of the media
A: Yes, but they're both frogs and both derivatives of Pepe. Are you CONCERNED?
B: ...there's no connection except the frog and...
A: We're not SAYING its racist, but here's a bunch of articles that heavily imply it. Are you CONCERNED now? Will you publicly condemn it so we can play a soundbite of you accepting our worldview while implicitly echoing Clinton's assertions about her opposition?
[ad nauseam]
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
The Pepe meme was some fucking brilliant false flag shit. Even today I still struggle to explain to idiots what happened. They are all convinced that white supremacists got together and used this stupid frog meme for nefarious purposes. Takes all of 3 seconds for a sane person to realize that makes no damn sense. What's just mind blowing is the number of real alt-right people who have jumped on thinking their peers are really into this shit.
4chan trolled the entire fucking world, and years later we'll still be arguing about this. This is the power that the fucking idiots of the world cede to those willing to use it. Feel free to think of Pepe as a scientific experiment that proves why clickbait and fake news are effective on the masses.
You're all a bunch of tools and you should be ashamed of yourself. Left, "alt-right", center, doesn't matter, fucking tools.
you people are insane. EVERYTHING anybody thats not anti trump hillary lovers do you refer to nazi-ism. dont you realize YOURE acting like the real nazis? its plainly easy to see..
In the context of speech, no one can make you feel bad. You have to do that to yourself. The entire world as you perceive it exists only in your mind. Your subjective experience, your meta thought analysis of the sensory perceptions you receive, is mutable primarily by your own thought and analysis.
If you read something and are offended, you take the responsibility of that offense. You did it to yourself. You, ion your infinite ignorance, created the offense.
So, in a very roundabout way, you just said that you are a bad person. I think we can agree on this.
When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.