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Apple Becomes First US Company To Top $800 Billion Value (bloomberg.com)

According to Bloomberg, "Apple became the first U.S. company with a market value of more than $800 billion as investors bet the next iPhone will spur a resurgence in sales." From the report: The stock rose 1 percent Tuesday to close at $153.99 in New York, giving it a market capitalization of about $803 billion. The shares have gained 33 percent since the start of the year, helped by a buyback program that Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook extended to total $210 billion last week, from $175 billion last year. Apple's rise to the top of the world's largest equity market highlights the emergence of mobile technology and the relative decline of the oil industry in recent years. Exxon Mobil Corp.'s value peaked in the fall of 2007, when oil prices climbed toward $100 a barrel. In November of that year, PetroChina Co. briefly became the first global company with a market capitalization of more than $1 trillion. Apple's revenue grew in the most recent fiscal quarter even as iPhone unit sales fell.

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  1. So? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    turn down for BUTT!

    #MAGA

  2. Amazing, and they cant build a server by bchickens · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just amazes me how well they do when they completely ignore business needs. No servers, No way to run virtual machines on a PC, and a MAC cant hold more than like 2 or 3... The fact that you cant buy a mac with 10 processors or 1 TB of RAM is just crazy to me. And honestly, there macbooks are outdated, expensive, and bloated..... just my 2 cents.
     

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    1. Re:Amazing, and they cant build a server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Amazing you think they need to build a server. Apple has correctly figured out how to make money, and it's not by building servers.

      As a shareholder, I am pleased you're disappointed.

    2. Re:Amazing, and they cant build a server by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      business cares about cost, parents giving a $1000 phone to a 10-year-old to stop it from crying don't

    3. Re:Amazing, and they cant build a server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But I WANT THAT ONE!!!

    4. Re:Amazing, and they cant build a server by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Building web servers, compute engines, and datacenter servers to run VMs, are all commodity businesses with lots of competition and low margins. They are so profitable precisely because they don't waste their resources on things like that.

    5. Re:Amazing, and they cant build a server by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      It makes me feel good that some company in the world can do well by completely snubbing corporate desires. Probably shouldn't make me feel good, but it does. Business is not the most important thing.

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    6. Re:Amazing, and they cant build a server by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      So.... how about they pay some taxes on that?

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    7. Re:Amazing, and they cant build a server by sootman · · Score: 1

      > No servers, No way to run virtual machines on a PC, and a MAC
      > cant hold more than like 2 or 3... The fact that you cant buy a mac
      > with 10 processors or 1 TB of RAM is just crazy to me.

      It's almost as if the vast majority of consumers on the planet aren't network admins.

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    8. Re:Amazing, and they cant build a server by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

      What taxes do you think they owe the US government? They pay all the taxes that the government requires them to pay. Don't bitch at Apple, bitch at your legions of bullshit Republican representatives and their oligarchy of greed and corruption.

    9. Re:Amazing, and they cant build a server by Wargames · · Score: 1

      The fact that most PC's come without 5K monitors seems crazy to me.

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  3. Standards by EEPROMS · · Score: 1, Interesting

    One of the problems with countries like India and China is that Universities view funding and student fees as being more important than the skills of their students. In chinese and indian universities it is very common for students to hand in cut and past assignments. I recently was talking to a western medical teacher who was working in china and he was chastised by the University for having high standards that incurred low student scores. The laugh is he was actually making the exams easier than what he is used to assigning in the USA. So yes you can get thousands of cheap engineers in China but less than 5% of them are worth paying for.

    1. Re:Standards by bames53 · · Score: 2

      Slashdot: Only 36 Percent of Indian Engineers Can Write Compilable Code Says Study

      India Graduates Millions, but Too Few Are Fit to Hire

      Only 7 per cent engineering graduates employable: What's wrong with India's engineers?

      BTW, what does this have to do with the price of Apple's stock?

      I'm guessing the grandparent was intended as a reply to my first link here, since on slashdot's front page it's right below this story on Apple right now.

  4. Ridiculous! So overpriced by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Like the derivatives market this is pure fantasy. It's a real bubblegum blowing contest. Who will be the champ?

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    1. Re:Ridiculous! So overpriced by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Like the derivatives market this is pure fantasy. It's a real bubblegum blowing contest. Who will be the champ?

      If you are so much smarter than the market, then you should be able to get rich by shorting Apple's stock. After you cash in and buy your yacht, you can come back here and post a picture of it.

    2. Re:Ridiculous! So overpriced by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      If you are so much smarter than the market

      Has nothing to do with 'smarts'. It's about your connections and inside knowledge. The market is too 'valuable' to leave to chance.

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    3. Re:Ridiculous! So overpriced by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 2

      It is really tiresome that Apple is measured on the value of their stock on Slashdot. This used to be a nerd site. Not a stock speculator's rally.

    4. Re:Ridiculous! So overpriced by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      No dude, for a lot of companies you could say that, but check it out. They have ~$200billion in the bank, and make around $50billion in profit every year. If you bought Apple for $800billion you'd be able to make your money back in 12 years.

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    5. Re:Ridiculous! So overpriced by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Only if the market ever learns that Apple was overvalued. Otherwise shorting Apple stock won't ever make GP a cent. It's even likely to cost him money.

      Yeah, it's pretty damn hard to convince the market that Apple is overvalued. Wonder why that is. Could it be... nah. It's probably because you are simply not trying hard enough.

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  5. Re:Oh by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    (and a touch of Jony Ive having way too much power)

    It's more than a touch, he's in charge of hardware design from top to bottom. And since he likes thin and hates ports, we only get crap products.

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  6. They have that money because they robbed us. by Zombie+Ryushu · · Score: 1

    They have that money because they robbed the public of billions. with Subsidized Phone plans, and creating debt for the public.

    1. Re: They have that money because they robbed us. by thundercattt · · Score: 1

      Don't forget paying 0 in tax.

    2. Re: They have that money because they robbed us. by dhartshorn · · Score: 1

      Somebody made you buy an iPhone?

    3. Re: They have that money because they robbed us. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Don't forget paying 0 in tax.

      Apple paid $10.7B in income tax last year on net income of $69B.

      They paid billions more in sales and payroll taxes.

    4. Re: They have that money because they robbed us. by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      so they paid less than half the rate than I did in income tax

      those poor babies

    5. Re: They have that money because they robbed us. by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      so they paid less than half the rate than I did in income tax

      those poor babies

      Hey, you probably also paid more taxes overall than Amazon did. Why don't you complain about that?

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    6. Re: They have that money because they robbed us. by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      What does Amazon have to do with this?

      What does a lie about not paying taxes have to do with market capitalisation?

      Amazon is the biggest tax dodger in the world, as well as the company using government provided services the most. Any whiney discussion about "not paying taxes" must necessarily also be about Amazon - unless of course you are one of their paid shills.

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    7. Re: They have that money because they robbed us. by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      How do you figure Amazon uses government services the most? Because of shipping and delivery? Well, you're way off. Here's how it works: Amazon pays UPS, FedEx, etc., to deliver packages. UPS, FedEx, and so on buy gas to fuel their trucks. When you, or anyone else, buys gas, you pay tax on it earmarked for road construction and maintenance. It's hardly Amazon's fault (Or UPS's or FedEx's, for that matter.) that corrupt politicos loot that gas tax and piss it away into dubious general fund projects.

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  7. Next iPhone will spur a resurgence in sales? by scdeimos · · Score: 1

    "Apple became the first U.S. company with a market value of more than $800 billion as investors bet the next iPhone will spur a resurgence in sales."

    Will it have a headphone jack?

  8. Re:First?! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    US companies have already broken the $trillion mark

    Nope. Microsoft peaked at $619B on Dec 27th, 1999. Even when adjusted for inflation, it is below $1T, although it is higher than where Apple is now.

  9. Shut it down by dhartshorn · · Score: 1

    and give the money back to the shareholders.

    Or not.

    1. Re:Shut it down by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      and give the money back to the shareholders.

      Or not.

      With their share buy-back program, they've already paid more mony back to the shareholders than Dell was ever worth. No need to shut it down, even if weren't so damn profitable.

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  10. Inflation. by xlsior · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While very impressive numbers, when you adjust for inflation things look different.

    Adjusted for inflation:
    - Cisco had a market cap of 758 billion in March 2000.
    - GE has a market cap of 816 billion in August 2000
    - Microsoft had a market cap of 871 billion in December 1999
    - IBM had a market cap of 1.3 trillion in 1967
    https://qz.com/335147/apples-m... http://gadgets.ndtv.com/others...

    But they all dwarf compared to the Dutch East-India Company (VOC), 1602-1800, the first publicly traded company in the world, which had a market cap of over SEVEN TRILLION inflation-adjusted dollars at its peak.

    1. Re:Inflation. by Kiuas · · Score: 1

      But they all dwarf compared to the Dutch East-India Company (VOC), 1602-1800, the first publicly traded company in the world, which had a market cap of over SEVEN TRILLION inflation-adjusted dollars at its peak.

      This is correct but it's good to remember that these colonial megacorps were essentially quasi-nations which had their own armies and in the case of VOC even the power to administer capital punishment, so while they're the first publicly traded companies they're also not exactly comparable in their power to the megacorps of today.

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    2. Re:Inflation. by DarthVain · · Score: 2

      Just wait until Apple (or some other corporation) is valued at 7 Trillion and see what happens...

  11. Re:First?! by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    but apple only does things first, they invented the rectangle, gloss and black, icons and the mouse lest you forget

  12. Re:Taxes by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    Anyone got a number on how much tax money they would owe the US if they paid?

    How can you owe taxes after you paid them?

    Anyway, they currently don't owe the US any taxes. Because keeping the money offshore is totally legal, else the Senate would actually do something about it but simply to bitch and moan.

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  13. Re:Taxes by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

    Most of them probably own stock in Apple.

  14. Re:Oh by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    (and a touch of Jony Ive having way too much power)

    It's more than a touch, he's in charge of hardware design from top to bottom. And since he likes thin and hates ports, we only get crap products.

    So THAT's why the top 5 laptop companies ALL crow about being able to shave another 0.1 mm off their laptops' thickness! Jony Ive is secretly working at all of those companies! Simultaneously!

    And that's why the 2016 15" MacBook Pro has significantly more raw I/O bandwidth (80 Gbps) of any laptop, as well as the hands-down most flexible I/O of any laptop: Because Jony Ive "Hates Ports"...