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Slashdot Asks: Which Tech Giant You Can't Live Without?

In this week's column of NYTimes, Farhad Manjoo writes about the five largest technology companies in the world: Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft and Alphabet, the parent company of Google. As he notes, these companies have become the most powerful firms of any kind, essentially inescapable for any consumer or business that wants to participate in the modern world. This brings us to two questions:
1. Of the five aforementioned companies, tell us one whose services you don't need for work and for personal use. (In short, the company that doesn't matter to you.) Here's a poll where you can cast your vote.
2. On the same note, which company's services and products you can't ditch (for work / personal use)?

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  1. None of them. by the_skywise · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can get my PC from intel, my monitor from Samsung, my OS via Linux and internet through some sort of fascist company.

    I don't need those 5 at all.

    1. Re:None of them. by someone1234 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You should add google.* to your banned host list, and see how far you get on the "internet" :D

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    2. Re:None of them. by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Informative
      You know...I lived a good portion of my life before any of these companies existed.

      Ok, I guess I heard of Apple in my teens, but they weren't the behemoth they are now and didn't have that much influence on society.

      But seriously, I grew up in a city, with a family, friends, and normal life....without any of these companies and I can tell you, I never felt back then my life was lacking in any form.

      Today?

      Well, I do appreciate and use the resources of many of these companies...but I do find that some of them also creep me out with the data mining and surveillance they have on my and everyones' lives.

      I find that FB and other social media, while being helpful in so many ways, is also seeming to increase the divisiveness in society, especially in the US. I know there are underlying problems, but I think FB and other social media are compounding these problems.

      Google has some great stuff, but I very much dislike their data gathering on me, my life and preferences.

      So, I could (and have) lived without any of these companies.....and did just fine.

      I don't use FB, never have...so, no loss there. I could probably get by without Google, but the one thing I'd miss is YouTube.

      I do use Amazon a lot, it's my primary purchase destination, but ever since they started collecting tax a couple months ago on their direct sales to my state, I've been using them less. If they clamp down on the 3rd party sellers on Amazon and make THEM also start collecting tax, I'll likely drop using them as often. Might as well buy local at that point.

      So, I guess my answer to the question is "Meh"....I've lived without them before and life was just fine.

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    3. Re:None of them. by Maritz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This whole thread will be a fanboy shit-slinging-fest.

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    4. Re: None of them. by TheOuterLinux · · Score: 4, Interesting

      DuckDuckGo.com and they don't bubble your searches either. There's nothing worse than showing subjective results and advertisements pertaining to your personality. You can turn cookies off, but they get more intimate with your computer than that; it won't help. No wonder assholes keep getting into office. Facebook is guilty of the same exact thing with their news articles. Anyone feel free to humor me; find a conservative and a liberal and tell them to google the same topic at the same time and see what happens. DuckDuckGo keeps things objective and private. It also doesn't need JavaScript to run and they have a .onion version for Tor users. So, no you don't need Google at all. When in doubt and need an alternative, ask a Linux user.

    5. Re:None of them. by gfxguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But you're looking at it through historical context - we've lived without internet, without cellphones, even without cable TV, and managed to actually survive! But if you're looking at it in the context of today, you've likely started relying heavily on one or more of these companies and it would likely be extremely inconvenient, if not impossible to do your job, without one or several of them.

      I'll agree that facebook is the most useless one there, and if facebook disappeared from the face of the planet, the lives of hundreds of millions of users worldwide would actually likely improve.

      I've come to rely on google for a lot of things. Certainly searching the internet is one of them, but gmail, google voice, sharing calendars and documents with my family has been extremely useful. So, on a personal level, losing Google would hurt the most - although I'd manage.

      As far as work goes, we work with proprietary software (and I'm not complaining, as it includes great API access for us programmers); it only runs on Windows. I would love to see a port somewhere else, but that's not likely. We also rely a lot on Microsoft's cloud services and office products to share things (the way I do in my personal life with Google). If MS were suddenly to cease to exist, we'd switch to products on Linux (we've evaluated them, and they just weren't ready for prime-time yet, but we'd learn to live with them if they were the only option).

      I also use Amazon a lot - I have prime, and I've never looked back. I'll take free two day shipping over wasting gas, causing extra pollution, adding to the traffic problem, and spending a couple of hours going to the local big box store and choosing something from a much more limited selection. I don't care about sales tax. I'd be paying that locally anyway. Prime videos and music are a nice added bonus.

      So there's none of these companies I couldn't live without, but I don't think that's really the question. We use the word "need" very loosely these days, and it depends on context. I don't "need" internet service at home... but I do "need" internet service at home if I want to work remotely. But I don't "need" to work remotely, it's just a perk. I don't "need" any of these companies. I "need" them to do some specific things that I don't really "need" to do.

      And slashdot actually has polls, so WTF would someone go offsite to take this survey? Unless, of course, you like being the product. Wondering how many ads are on the linked page.

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  2. Alphabet by McGruber · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've never owned any Apple products, avoid buying from Amazon, think Facebook is a huge waste of time, and got rid of my last Windows (W2K) computer a few years back.

    But my Android phone is indispensable and I find that duckduckgo's search results aren't as good as google's results.

  3. The Only Answer by mfh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    None. Zero. They could all go bankrupt and it would be business as usual for me after some slight adjustment.

    As soon as the tech giants learn that people couldn't live without them (despite whether it's true or not), that's when they always start creeping into nefarious territory with their policies to push their profits higher.

    I'd also like to add that Facebook was caught performing psychological experiments on their users that included attempting to make users extremely sad.

    Fuck Facebook. I left them YEARS ago and haven't looked back. Now when I talk to friends I meet up with, we have something to talk about because they have no idea what I've been up to AND I have no idea what they've been doing lately.

    Other than Facebook I'm indifferent to every other large business. I'll buy products that have high quality longevity and are a value to me. The second they tamper with the quality, I lose trust in them and move on to some other product.

    I've exited entire markets of products just because none of the offerings were valuable to me. My wallet thanked me for that.

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    1. Re:The Only Answer by the_skywise · · Score: 5, Funny

      *blinks*

      A TWO DIGIT USER?!?

      It's like meeting a celestial! :)

    2. Re:The Only Answer by caferace · · Score: 4, Funny

      Makes *me* feel like a youngster.

    3. Re:The Only Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      He died like, four years ago. You are replying to his /. post-generating app, which is prepaid to run for another six years.

      If that response was auto-generated, then I'd say we have proof that AI is quite advanced.

    4. Re:The Only Answer by c · · Score: 4, Funny

      It definitely puts things in perspective. If only you'd signed up a few hours earlier...

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  4. Middle Age Minority Immigrant Professional I think by Brigadier · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Apple - Don't Need
    not a fan boy, and though I work with CS I'm happy with the MS compatible product

      Amazon - Don't Need, but Really Like
    What can I say as a guy, and a parent (see bulk diapers, toilet paper, detergent), and clueless shopper, they have become an asset. e.g. I bought my son a nice watch for his 16th birthday. I first attempted to go to the down town Los Angeles jewelry district. I had my negotiating cash in hand but realized immediately I had no idea what qualified as a good watch. Amazon to the rescue every offer was counter offered by the Amazon cost on my phone. Ultimately I purchased the watch on Amazon for less $10.

    Facebook - Hate It
    Humanity would be better off without it. I've watched all my associates become attention whoring narcissistic children. between that and eye catching adds funneled through friend likes it's kinda sad.

      Microsoft - Use It
    Being in an engineering/architecture field it's required, the only alternate to Office has been Google Apps (see docs) I actually used this in a professional office until people could no longer deal with the accountants whining about there precious icons. (we went back to office). Yes I've tried the linux office apps think they work great but in my professional life this is a pipe dream

    Alphabet - Need It (this could be google subliminal suggestions)
    What can I say they whore my information but it works and it's cheap (see $100 android phone). I also just discovered the cool features in google photos. lossless uploads and automatic sorting. After 10+ years of Film, DSLR this is sooo convenient.

  5. Re:That's an easy one... by ArhcAngel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    None of these companies would exist without IBM. I'm pretty sure all of the major banks and exchanges still run big iron (Mainframes). Try and buy something from Amazon without money/credit. Just because they aren't consumer facing doesn't mean they aren't relevant.

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  6. The cementary ... by houghi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    is full of indispensable people.

    The same goes for companies. Life existed before them. Life will exist after them.

    What is even funnier is that all the examples are companies that do things that are pretty bad for the customers. So it is liker asking what finger or toe you would miss the least.

    Apple: Abuse of copyright and trademark
    Amazon : Abuse of workers
    Facebook : invasion of privacy
    Alphabet : Invasion of privacy
    Microsoft : They ain't GNU

    I am sure you can come up with a few more things they do. Yes, what they do is legal. That does not make it moral and are bad for the customer. So why would I favor one above the other if I would love to see them all leave?

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  7. Re:Microsoft by Spacelord · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the world runs on Windows and Office

    That may have been true in the 90s but it hasn't been the case for a looong time. The web runs the world these days and it's easy to get by without Windows and Office. There are plenty of alternatives. People just stick to Windows out of laziness and because it's what most other people have.

    If Office and Windows were to disappear tomorrow, people would just standardize on something else and they would get by just as well.