The Failed Experiment of the Digital Album Booklet (theoutline.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Before the ubiquity of MP3s and streaming platforms, one of the many small joys of buying a new album on CD was slipping the booklet out of the jewel case and reading the liner notes, credits, and lyrics while the music played for the first time. These days, the biographical information, album production notes, promotional photos, and printed lyrics that fans once relied on physical literature for have found homes in other areas online. Artist websites, social media accounts, and sites like Genius and WhoSampled offer a patchwork of album information, like credits and clues to what happened behind the scenes. But those details rarely exist in one place, and production and songwriting credits seem less and less important. Meanwhile, the form that was intended to replace the traditional booklet, the digital booklet, remains a rarity when it comes to new releases. The idea of digital album booklets may appeal to only the nerdiest of music fans, for whom having everything in one place is a ritualistic way to listen to music and for whom album credits are crucial. But in an age where branding is often as important as skill, the lack of digital booklets feels like a wasted opportunity for artists wanting to communicate directly to fans without a social network as a middleman.
But I would be happier if I could just view decent sized, high resolution album covers. iTunes & Spotify at least, offer only thumbnails in their canned "experience".
Agree completely. Not everyone cared, but for your favorite albums or favorite band or even an unusual track you might want to know something more about -- the CD booklet, preceded by the LP jacket (sometimes with accompanying booklet) was often really informative. (Oh, and those tiny print things on cassettes too... I don't miss those.)
Like DVD extras that gave fans insight beyond the movie, "liner notes" are going the way of the Dodo. I have a friend who has been trying to write on recently released music, and the basic info you'd often get in liner notes is often hard to come by, if they exist at all.
I want the full-size posters that used to come folded up in many LPs.
When I was in high school, half the wall space in by bedroom was covered with those things.
It's already May, dude... FLAC or bust. Lossily compressed audio is so last quarter.
There is no XUL, only WebExtensions...
One word: hipgnosis.
Millenials are mourning the loss of the CD booklet?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
There was a widely available format for exchanging information that didn't require a login or membership. This format would require some sort of system for making sure the names didn't get mixed up, and you might need some means of searching it, too. But a band could use this format for promotion of their work, links to concert reviews, additional information about the inspirations for the tracks on their albums, links to interviews they gave and all that stuff. Rather than being just boring text and some photos put in a jewel case, it would be so much more since you could use text, images, videos and so on. A band could create single stop shopping for not only their own information, but provide information about how people could listen to their music, watch music videos and buy concert tickets. If they so wanted, they could allow people to optionally sign up for their fan club or connect fans to their accounts on social media. Plus, the band could ... get this ... add new information as the album was released!
Oh wait, that already exists ... it's called a website.
I can't believe it's 2017 and we have widespread adoption of digitally-distributed music but lyrics don't already come embedded, with time-codes.
You'd think with all the plastic they're saving they could afford somebody to key in some time codes.
My God, it's Full of Source!
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That time is when you learn nothing from it.
If nothing else, we should have learned that the sacred album is as obsolete as the IBM 360.
Well, ... actually all of it, on iTunes: I have most of the time a digital booklet.
at those times a CD costed the equivalent of our days 30$
Now they cost less than 10$
And as I buy most of my music, hm
What was this article about again?
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
I don't know what planet you are living on, but music is more diverse and accessible than it has ever been. In the 80s you basically had two choices for recorded music - hang out at the record store with a few thousand titles hand-selected by the record store's buyer, or hang out at the independent record store with a few hundred titles hand-selected by the owner. That was it. Now you can select from millions of signed and unsigned artists from all over the world, and the cost of recording has come down so much that you can get better quality than what the Beetles had to work with for virtually free. If you are bored of today's music, you have no one to blame but yourself.
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These booklets do satisfy music nerds. But for the most part, I think they were included as a way to try to justify the high price of CDs. After all, you were getting a lot more than just audio for 10 songs! Now that music has been decoupled from the CD medium, and people buy music a-la-carte, the motivation for spending the time and money to create the booklets (or some digital equivalent) is no longer there.
According to Steve Jones, a distinguished professor of communications at University of Illinois at Chicago, the absence of digital booklets can be attributed to two things. First, given all of the different platforms on which people consume digital music, juggling the different template standards for each can be cumbersome. Second, people aren’t looking at digital booklets because we aren’t listening to albums like we used to. “You don’t bring it home in a container and listen to it and look at the sleeve, read the liner notes, et cetera,” said Jones. “You buy your music or stream it instantaneously, usually while you’re doing something else. The space in which one would have looked at the visuals has gone by the wayside.”
I think these are good points, but there are a couple of other things we can point to. For one, the any creative effort or marketing money that would have gone into making booklets has most likely moved to crafting a social networking presence. Social networking is probably a more obvious method for connecting with fans and sharing information.
However, I would guess that part of the problem is that early attempts at digital booklets were so poorly executed that it has poisoned the well. I remember a time shortly before MP3s really took off, and they had started putting this kind of information on a data section of the music CD. That is, if you bought a music CD and put it into a computer, it would show up as a data CD with a terrible Flash application that would auto-play. The apps were poorly thought-out, annoying, and often didn't even include the information that would be in the liner notes (e.g. lyrics). It often seemed like the booklets were only put in there so that the disc would be recognized as a data disc, making it harder to rip the disc and convert them to MP3s. (This was when the record industry was trying to prevent MP3s from becoming mainstream, arguing that it was illegal to rip CDs.)
Over the years, I've only seen one attempt at this sort of thing that didn't seem horribly designed and stupid. A few years back, there was an iOS app for Bob Dylan that was meant to accompany a recently released anthology. It came with some free information, and then for each Bob Dylan album it detected on your device, it would unlock information about that album (or something like that). I don't think it's even available anymore, but I found a video of it.
It wasn't perfect. The interface was still a little wonky in places, and it wasn't in some kind of universal format that you could view on any device. However, it was clear that someone had put in the effort to collect a bunch of photos and information, including various interviews and new content created for the app. They'd at least made an attempt to make an interesting design, and have it somehow connect with the music (e.g. you could listen to the music and it would show you the lyrics currently being played). At the very least, it was interesting enough, and had good enough content, that a fan might find it worthwhile enough to spend some time exploring. I haven't seen anything before or since that seemed like the people who made it had any interest in making it good.
Move with the times FLAC is SOOOOOO May 11th.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Touche.
There is no XUL, only WebExtensions...
It's really the app store effect. Those two stores from the 80's were both curated (whether by a local expert or the big labels, depending on which you choose). Now, there's loads and loads of garbage mixed in. Finding the good stuff is much harder among the noise than ever before. Yes, there's more good out there, but if you have to find it yourself it's a lot of work.
accessible yes, diverse no ... less you'r one of these people that the same sound in a different language is something unique, and being able to record is not the same as being chosen to be recorded
maybe that's the real issue, anyone regardless of talent can record super high quality poorly mixed over polished slock and the market is flooded with noise
once i am done wiping my ass I will
I used to love the liner notes. How else could I prove to my meathead friends that it wasn't Reverend Bluejeans...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
music used to be something somewhat special, today its all the same polished to death generic flat loud noise no matter the genera or band, why would I care to see pictures of people sitting in front of a computer fixing the "dont give a shit" music that took a half a day to record
There are many talented musicians out there making great music.You just need to take time to find them.
Again, you are not even looking. It sounds like you want music that sounds like its from another period - which lucky for you people are still making. What is it exactly you are looking for that you can't find?
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I think you just have to adapt. Looking through music at a curated record store was incredibly hard (and expensive!). If you were really lucky, you'd run into an employee who had the same tastes that you did (or at least understood your taste) and you were down $60 and a couple of weeks of repeat listening. Even if you hated the album on first play, you spend good money on it and damnit, you'd listen a couple of times. Sometimes, that record that you initially hated became a lifelong favorite.
Now you do the same thing, but you either look in the comments for other like-minded people, or you let the competing algorithms have their way with you. Listen to a couple of cycles on Pandora without getting too aggressive on the skip and thumbs-down, and you'll probably hear some stuff that tickles your fancy. Spotify has thousands of curated playlists - you just need to find someone who likes similar music to yourself and let it fly. Both Spotify and YouTube have automatic recommendations, which I personally find a mixed bag, but sometimes there are some real gems.
Is it time consuming? Yeah. But so was waiting for that perfect song to come on the radio to hit "record". So was calling in to the radio station. So was spending hours listening to Americas Top 40 every weekend. I suspect you are underestimating the amount of time you devoted to music as a kid.
And even if you like older music, it's all out there waiting to be discovered. All the old stuff is on the 'net now, too, and there is no way you heard it all.
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so you admit, music now is a disposable item worth nothing
refer to the title of the op
How many people really cared about the cover art? I would look at it once to read the lyrics then it would disappear in my closet somewhere and the CD went into a book.
MP3 has no patent encumbrances or licensing fees....
Good-bye
"Worth" is a funny word. If you mean monetary worth, then there isn't really much inherent value in music - at least not recorded or written music - thus the perceived need for copyright. If you mean worth as in, things I value (e.g. friends, family, hobbies, free time, etc.), then I'd say it is very valuable. I mean, look at all the people commenting here, at all the traditional media and websites devoted to music, at the hoards that attend concerts. I spend a very large amount of time listening to and discovering music, so to me it is "worth" quite a bit - even if I don't directly pay for it much at all.
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I mean, look at all the people commenting here
you mean 58% less people here commenting about music than a rather dry healthcare hack?
I've posted this before, on Slashdot, but I can't find it now. I very much want to see a standard digital album format. Something simple and open, like a zip file with a standard folder structure and files easy to find within it.
I want high-resolution images of the album art, the original liner notes in both EPUB and PDF format, lyrics (ideally with optional time marks so that the lyrics can be displayed properly as the song plays) and room for extras. Like, I once saw a GIF of the cover of Wish You Were Here with an animation so the flames looked like they were burning... what the heck, let's have the album art optionally moving.
If I have a home entertainment system hooked up to a large screen in my living room, the album art can show while the music plays.
The old beautiful album art? I want to see it bigger than ever and in digital quality. I'd love to look at the details in the cover of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
I figured Apple would have done this by now, and it would be patented and locked down and only work right on an AppleTV. But nobody has done it.
Heck, if this was done properly, I might be willing to buy again some albums I bought on CD and ripped, just because I can afford it and the extras would be nice.
And it would be interesting to see new albums designed from the start to be in this format, doing things I'm not clever enough to dream about yet.
lf(1): it's like ls(1) but sorts filenames by extension, tersely
Why can't they just include a pdf of the booklet?
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Yeah, I'm not claiming it's the most valuable thing to all of humanity.
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So what's the best lossless format nowadays?
You need to get out more.
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