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Why Amanda Palmer Left the Music 'Industry' For Crowdfunding (digitaltrends.com)
Amanda Palmer says abandoning the commercial music industry for a subscription model made it possible to take more chances, like a new album with psychedelia artist Edward Ka-Spel. An anonymous reader quotes Digital Trends:
I spent my whole life in this music industry trying to figure out how to sell what I'm making. But I don't "sell" anymore -- I just have this magical net of supporters who are supporting me whether I choose to make a record with Edward or make a record with my dad, which I did last year... [S]ometimes, you absolutely want to do ridiculous, noncommercial stuff. The Patreon patrons have been a godsend in that sense. I've had to continually re-educate myself that this isn't about selling music. It's about making music. I got so used to those two being inseparable that it took a lot of psychological work to divorce the processes.
She says her supporters "haven't just promised; they've put down their credit card." And Neil Gaiman, her husband, also strongly endorses the freedom to experiment. "If, as an artist, you ever listen to your fans' demands, and their demands are always insisting you make the last thing they liked again, you would go nowhere."
She says her supporters "haven't just promised; they've put down their credit card." And Neil Gaiman, her husband, also strongly endorses the freedom to experiment. "If, as an artist, you ever listen to your fans' demands, and their demands are always insisting you make the last thing they liked again, you would go nowhere."
Not having financial worries kinda helps with the whole escaping the music industry thing.
Funny that they keep going back to Amanda Palmer for these stories, when the real pioneers in crowd-funded music is Marillion, who started doing it way back in 1996 for tours, and 2001 for albums. If you have a big enough fan base, you can probably can do something like this.
She spoke at a TED talk recently and she's for the free sharing of digital content.
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I wonder how Hollywood and the music industry have been taken over by lawyers in the first place.
At least he didn't put [sic] after it, which seems to be a growing trend. Fortunately, it isn't growing in a literally exponential way.
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I can see why google search results wouldn't necessarily convey a lot of why her fans love her, and her musical output is so broad that it's easy to find things you're not impressed by.
I've been to see her perform twice and I find her a fascinating person and artist.
A lot of the stuff she produces doesn't work for me but she's always entertaining, has stupendous audience engagement and I love her strong independence.
Wait. No. Could it be that being married to a rich famous person means you don't have to worry shit about money, and can do stuff you like anyway?
Look, Neil was successful before he married Amanda. It's not her income that lets him experiment, he makes his own contribution.
What the fuck makes you think she's living off his money? She was a successful artist filling concert halls on international tours before she even met Neil.
The one who wanted people to work for nothing?
http://kotaku.com/5943112/amanda-palmer-asks-musicians-to-play-for-free-pisses-off-musicians
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I disagree with the notion that a strong, independent woman needs to tattoo (what looks like) barbed wire eyebrow replacements as her statement of that putative strong independence.
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She is Neil Gaiman's wife, and when you realize that it puts the whole rest of it in a new, proper context.
At this stage, you, me, and Editor David are about the only people who HAVEN'T given a TED talk, and mine's booked for late October...
It's only news for nerds because her husband is a famous science fiction author, which again, puts everything else in a different context.
> Last TED talk I saw was by a professional pickpocketer.
The last Kickstarter project I saw was was by a professional pickpocketer.
Come to think of it, most of them are!
I disagree with the notion that a strong, independent woman needs to tattoo (what looks like) barbed wire eyebrow replacements as her statement of that putative strong independence.
Hey! She has every right to make herself look stupid and trashy. Not knowing who she was, I did a web search. BWAHAHAHA! It ain't cool if people laugh at what you think is cool, Amanda.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Those aren't tattoos, they're just make-up.
I think it's less a statement of independence and more just something she's been doing since she was 22 and has turned into a pseudo-trademark. Amanda with hairy eyebrows would not be AFP.
>> For some people success is being able to do what they want.
No question. And it is so, so much easier to do what you want when you are married to a very wealthy spouse. The suburbs around NYC are jam-packed with galleries and concert venues featuring the artwork and "one woman shows" created by happy, "successful" artists who are enabled to do what they want by virtue of the size of their spouse's paycheck.
She has every right to blah blah blah
Point to where I said that she did not have the right to do that.
Better yet... explain how in your pea-fucking left-wing shit-head brain that "I disagree with" morphs into "she has no right to".
Asshole.
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You've got to discriminate between TED talks and TEDx talks.
TED talks are usually insightful information imparted by a noted expert in their field.
I did. He was a very good pickpocketer. Can't say I've ever seen a TEDx talk.
Knowledge of Taylor Swift is compulsory in our culture, and it's true that if that is your benchmark for "success" Palmer has never been successful, even with marrying Gaiman.
I don't know much at all about Taylor Swift. I hear her mentioned from time to time, but I wouldn't recognize it as Taylor Swift singing a song if I heard it.
Gaiman I remember because I was buying the Sandman comix when they came out. In fact, buying them at Dreamhaven in Minneapolis, the town that he ended up emigrating to. I have not been that impressed with his post-Sandman work, though he is a gifted and important artist. He strip-mines folklore and re-interprets it for a modern audience of people who didn't receive a Classical education.
The important question is always "where's the music" and if it's an artist worth listening to, the music exceeds their person-hood and name-recognition is just an aid the next time you are looking for something new to listen to.
The fact that she's working with Edward is a good sign, of course.
Well, your argument depends on chronology. Palmer had her first record out years before she met Gaiman, and that was after she had directed her first play and had developed a local cult following. Gaiman was actually a fan before he was introduced to her.
Which is not to say there aren't rich dilettante women making a "career" out of spending their husbands' fortunes, but to fit Palmer into that mold you have to throw out the facts.
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Is music always produced in a factory and delivered to "consumers"? If not, "industry" might not be the ideal term.
it probably doesn't hurt that she married the most famous author on earth
Since when did J. K. Rowling get gay married?
She has every right to blah blah blah
Point to where I said that she did not have the right to do that.
You said nothing pf the sort. Tell me honey, are you this utterly sensitive in real life? Have such insecurity when someone makes a simple statement that you immediately jump to an unwarranted and completly wrong conclusion that I am insulting you or even disagreeing with you?
Better yet... explain how in your pea-fucking left-wing shit-head brain that "I disagree with" morphs into "she has no right to".
Asshole.
You take a simple reply the first part of which I simply make a statement about people who get tattoos, the second part which was agreeing with you in different words and turn it into such a massive insult to you, such an impugnment upon your character that you launch onto a parade of insults toward me that simply reflect on the true issue here that there is something seriously Wrong With You!
Allow me to be perfectly frank and serious with you, based upon my experiences in life on a professional and personal level. Your response to a posting by me me that was in fact, agreeing with your basic premise about the woman - was not indicative of a person who is experiencing life in a normal manner. I have no idea if you were just having a bad day, and needed to lash out at someone, or more to my concern, that you are perhaps an untreated schizophrenic, and possibly are going through a psychotic break. I am serious - your reaction was so out of place that you might consider at least talking to someone about what is bothering you.
Or you can just call me some more names, and feel better about yourself for a little while. But those sort of issues do tend to get worse over time.
I certainly meant no ill toward you in my post, nor even disagreement. Peace out, Brother.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Hey, it worked for Status Quo.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Sh was a successful musician before she ever married her husband thanks to the Dresden Dolls. That you automatically assume a woman married to a famous man is successful only because of the man in her life is pretty damn sexist.
Way back near the end of his Sandman run, Neil Gaiman showed us what he thought of us fans with "Nybbas the Spider". He may have thought this was a cute bit of nose-thumbing at us obnoxious fanboys or some-such, but me, I concluded he was in over his head and had no idea what to do with the vein of material he had been mining, and I pretty much ignored him ever since [1]. Far be it from me to deny him his freedom to experiment, but why would I bother with those experiments compared to the millions of others out there in the world?
Amanda Palmer has done an excellent job of showing the potential for crowd-funding, provided you happen to be a pretty young woman who's weirdly extroverted and enjoys telling heart-warming, personal stories to an audience of thousands of people.
[1] Actually, there was a movie with a Gaiman script out some years back that I actually went to see, because it also had Dave McKean artwork... I remember thinking "Well, Dave McKean held up his end.".
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I've seen her filling nothing more than an a club.
While her band by itself probably hasn't, when The Dresden Dolls opened for Nine Inch Nails during the With Teeth tour they were playing huge venues. They had a pretty big following during the mid-2000s.
Who is "Taylor Swift"? Is he a musician?
Yes, I am joking ;). Though I would like to say that I enjoy listening to The Dresden Dolls, which makes them, for me, more of a success than Swift-y, and helps prove your point.
Well there you go. That's all that counts. Is she fuckable enough??
When you think about how many anonymous cowards are idiot assholes, you start to make sense.
...and some (this guy) now listen to her more than Mr Reznor. Learn about new bands, listen to their music, then decide if they're sellouts/shills/coat-tail riders. Doing it the other way around shows more that you want to be right than you want to experience life and make optimal choices with the information you've acquired. I happen to not like much of her recent stuff, but the first 3-4 albums were fantastic (a few Dresden Dolls, then solo).
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