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Our Obsession With Trailers Is Making Movies Worse (cnet.com)

An anonymous reader shares an article: Our increasing obsession with trailers is changing how we watch movies. We're becoming audiences afraid of surprise, audiences that would rather watch movies we're certain we'll like than risk watching films that surprise us into love. In some cases, this fixation is even lowering the quality of movies themselves by encouraging bad filmmaking habits. The most extreme example happened when Warner Bros released such a successful trailer for 'Suicide Squad' it brought on the company that cut it to edit the whole film -- dropping the director's original cut altogether. [...] Thanks to trailers' easy accessibility on YouTube and those shot-by-shot breakdowns that quickly appear online once trailers drop, anyone interested in a given flick can pore over all the available footage for hours -- even if that leads to major spoilers for them and everyone they share it with.

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  1. If only... by Bodhammer · · Score: 4, Funny

    If only there were tornados that attacked these trailers...

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    1. Re:If only... by SCVonSteroids · · Score: 2

      No, shark tornados.

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    2. Re:If only... by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2

      It isn't the trailer. It's the C-note you spend on popcorn and tickets that has turned a night out at the movies into a significant investment with little hope of it being worth it.

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  2. Why should we be different to studios? by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A studio is afraid to try something new because a movie costs millions, often hundreds of millions, to make. So they are afraid to try something out of the ordinary and instead rehash the same stuff that once managed to get people into the cinemas, we get reboot after reboot, relaunch after relaunch.

    And going to see a movie costs between 10 and 20 bucks a person. So we're afraid to try something that we don't know anything about, fearing that we're going to waste 20 bucks on something we are not going to enjoy.

    It's a matter of money. People don't want to waste it on something that's not going to perform the way they would like it to.

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    1. Re:Why should we be different to studios? by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Big explosions and tits.

      Come to think of it, why not simply name a movie that way? No trailer needed.

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    2. Re:Why should we be different to studios? by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It sounds more like the working title of a Michael Bay movie.

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    3. Re:Why should we be different to studios? by computational+super · · Score: 2

      Super intellectual movies that have real depth, and challenge us to think in new ways

      You misspelled "boring"

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    4. Re:Why should we be different to studios? by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Big explosions and tits.

      Come to think of it, why not simply name a movie that way? No trailer needed.

      And that will put us one step closer to the movie "Ass" being made and winning 8 Oscars. Sadly, instead of 500 years, it'll probably be in less than 50 years.

    5. Re:Why should we be different to studios? by drew_kime · · Score: 2

      And that will put us one step closer to the movie "Ass" being made and winning 8 Oscars. Sadly, instead of 500 years, it'll probably be in less than 50 years.

      In case no one else mentions it, I got you fam.

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    6. Re:Why should we be different to studios? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      You misspelled "boring"

      Ah, yes, the Michael Bay approach to filmaking. God forbid that the audience should go five minute without an explosion.

    7. Re:Why should we be different to studios? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      If it wins best sound I'm SO out of here!

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    8. Re: Why should we be different to studios? by Miamicanes · · Score: 3

      Or a car being flipped. Jesus, I cringe every time I see cars flipping in front of some kind of energy release (bomb, earthquake, alien laser beam, whatever).

      The only thing more trite than flipping cars is a "YA" movie where pampered suburban American teens somehow save the universe against impossible odds, then manage to find "true love" in the final 17 minutes while some anonymous female vocalist sings some unrecognizable song with lyrics that *almost* sound like gaussian-blurred random English.

  3. I avoid trailers, if possible by Quirkz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They tend to give away too much, or, in a bad movie, show the only things worth watching. If I'm going to get suckered in to see it, I might as well save those five good jokes.

    It really helped when I cut cable, because I barely see any these days, other than previews before other movies.

    1. Re:I avoid trailers, if possible by ganjadude · · Score: 2

      same. i dont like to see trailers, especially on movies i am looking forward to.

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    2. Re:I avoid trailers, if possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Also, it's more common these days to release content in the trailer, that will NOT be in the movie itself.

      So plot lines which might be suggested in the trailer, won't exist in the movie. At best they're side-plots, and topics or characters which may exist in the directors cut, but they again only hint at a larger narrative that we won't actually get to see in the theater. I'm not sure many others notice this, but I certainly do, when in the event I do see the trailer, go to the movie, and notice content that isn't there. Maybe I'm an outlier...

      So yea. Best to avoid trailers at this point. I'd rather be surprised during the hour and a half, than for 2 minutes of teaser.

    3. Re:I avoid trailers, if possible by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

      Oh, the John Connor from the future is a Terminator. Well, now I don't need to spend $17 on a ticket.

      It's amazing how much I can relate to your comment. There was a 10 year period where I decided that owning a television was a waste of time. Terminator 2 was released during that period, so it was a really cool surprise to discover that Arnold was the good guy while watching the movie for the first time. Granted, it was a much different time, and plot twists were not required as they are now either, especially in a action movie. So it was even more unexpected.

  4. I don't know of anyone that watches them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would you since they so often contain spoilers? What kind of idiot wants to ruin a movie just to find out something a little earlier?

    1. Re:I don't know of anyone that watches them by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Take your average movie. Say, anything Michael Bay did lately.

      Now spoiler it in any meaningful way. I dare you.

      Nearly all mass appeal movies of today are so formulaic and predictable that "spoiler" doesn't really describe the problem. The problem is more that it's "seen one, seen 'em all".

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  5. Don't Blame Me. by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Informative

    >Our increasing obsession with trailers is changing how we watch movies.

    Your obsession. I don't have an obsession with trailers. They barely register on my personal radar of things I'm aware of and they certainly aren't something I care about.

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  6. NOPE! by ichthus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We're not the ones making the trailers, and we're not the ones making the crappy movies. Not our fault.

    We're fine with suspense and surprise. And, I'm pretty sure we're just fine with... *read slowly* GOOOD MOOOOVIES. So, make them good.

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  7. Worst trailer ever? The Matrix by LiquidMind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The trailer showed Neo stopping bullets with his mind. In the trailer.

    That was supposed to be the shock and awe moment that tied it all together.

    There should be a new category.... Spoiler Trailer.

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  8. The worse part of a trailer... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sometimes the trailer is better than the movie.

    1. Re:The worse part of a trailer... by judoguy · · Score: 4, Interesting
      My oldest son is a trailer editor in Hollywood. It drives him crazy when the studios force him to promote the movies in certain ways. They'll often take his work and combine it with other trailer houses work to produce frankentrailers.

      What I hear is that most, if not all, trailer editors are serious film geeks and would love to be able to do good work but the client always wins.

      Here is a version of a trailer my son made on his own time and showed the client just to try and do something he could be proud of. The client loved it but then the client's marketing department made him tone it way back. It's not what he first wanted, but it's still pretty fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  9. Movies are too expensive. by DatbeDank · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When something costs me a lot of money, my expectations start to increase. When a movie costs $13+ for a single ticket, I expect that movie to be mind blowingly awesome. When it undoubtedly falls flat on its face for not living up to its $13 value to me, I feel ripped off and stop going to see movies that I don't feel were worth the $13 to me.

    If movies cost, 6,7, or even 8 dollars, my expectations will be more reasonable and thus my enjoyment of the movie increases because i'm not asking myself, "Was this worth it?"

  10. How long until there are only trailers? by swb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My 12 year old son will, at times, sit down in front of the Apple TV and watch nothing but trailers for an hour.

    I'm wondering if the culprit isn't the short attention span syndrome, immediate gratification and the regular consumption of very short form videos on YouTube and the like.

    1. Re:How long until there are only trailers? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm wondering if the culprit isn't the short att

      Ugh, TL:DR pls.

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    2. Re:How long until there are only trailers? by ljw1004 · · Score: 2

      My 12 year old son will, at times, sit down in front of the Apple TV and watch nothing but trailers for an hour. I'm wondering if the culprit isn't the short attention span syndrome, immediate gratification and the regular consumption of very short form videos on YouTube and the like.

      Yeah, and I know someone who reads HAIKU!!! How ridiculous. Why can't they read proper full-length poems like the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner? Also, the Hugo and Nebula awards should eliminate their "short story" categories and only reward real full-length novels.

      Seriously, "culprit" is too loaded a word. Maybe your son has picked the smarter option?

  11. Re:Worst trailer ever? The Matrix by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2

    The recent "prologue trailer" for Alien Covenant is worse. Look away now if you haven't seen the film and don't want spoilers.

    It literally has nothing to do with the film - I have no idea what actually happened, but Noomi Rapace (Elizabeth Shaw from Prometheus) basically doesn't appear in the full film, all her scenes are in the "prologue trailer", and the film itself goes off in a totally different direction. The "prologue trailer" hypes you up for the coming story and then ... nothing. That story isnt told. They tell a different story.

    There is basically a film missing between Prometheus and Covenant.

  12. Movie Astroturfing is Getting Painful by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

    While there may be some truth that we prefer to know the movie genre ahead of time (begetting genres themselves), the idea that we're afraid of being pleasantly surprised is asinine. We almost never are, that is the problem. Absolutely no effort is made to hook us in with a genre, and deliver us with more than we expect, at best we get a marketing checklist of included sequences. It makes a bit of sense then that audiences will at least decide which spreadsheet they wish to be party to, verify their assumption via trailer, and then commit $20+ to see the thing. $20 will get you substantially more hours of (and usually better) entertainment for the dollar than a movie theater, you have to be convinced that at least you won't hate it.

    Or, we stream it on something for $5, or get it via Netflix DVD or Redbox and toss it back when the nausea subsides.

    The movie industry is failing itself, blaming millions of people for not appreciating it isn't good thinking. I personally think the movie industry would do way better with a $10M budget cap and some creativity, rather than $150M explosionfests and absolutely no creativity at all.

  13. Spoilers aren't a big deal. by WDot · · Score: 2

    In many (but not all) movies, spoilers aren't a huge deal. Are we really surprised that Captain America beats the bad guy at the end? Seeing two seconds of the final fight in the trailer doesn't mean I'm not going to enjoy watching the entire movie. You could make the argument that the issue is that modern movies are shallow or dumb. Maybe, but I think this also applies to classic movies. Citizen Kane's "Rosebud" has been so endlessly parodied that someone sitting down to watch Citizen Kane for the first time is not going to be surprised at that revelation. They'll still enjoy a finely crafted story. Except for mystery stories, I don't think surprise is a primary factor in enjoying most movies.

  14. Japanese trailers by Rakarra · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This sounds like American film trailers are becoming more like Japanese film trailers. The trailers are often cut to tell much of the plot, and since there's more of a focus on the interests of Japanese women (as opposed to the obsession with American teen boys) they tend to add more emotion to the trailer itself. This is maybe most stark in the trailers for animated films which have a long history in Japan as adult fare, but are still often relegated to the animation ghetto in the USA.

    Compare these two trailers for Inside Out. The American version focuses on slackstick humor, while the Japanese trailer kicks you right in the feels and isn't afraid to spoil the plot.

    Also, the Trailers Always Spoil trope from TV Tropes is always a good read on this.

    1. Re:Japanese trailers by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 2

      I haven't seen the movie. But, to be honest the Japanese one made me more interested in seeing the film.

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  15. Garbage by sqorbit · · Score: 2

    You sure it's not the garbage story lines that Hollywood keeps repeating that are making movies worse? How many times are they going to rewrite superhero story lines or the same boring "boy meets girl who he isn't really supposed to be in love with" plot line

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    1. Re:Garbage by acroyear · · Score: 2

      Indeed. or pre-writing the 'trilogy' to fit the star wars original trilogy pattern, the Campbell Story (episode one) embedded within the larger Campbell Story (the whole trilogy), then...throw it all away and reboot so you can do it again to a new generation. Sam Raimi's Spiderman set certainly fits this bill, but there are others.

      Trouble is, as soon as you step away from the stereotypes and tropes and get 'original'...something falls short and then everybody's hunting around for what caused it to jump the shark (not that anybody uses that phrase anymore). There's actually some really good ideas tucked inside Pirates 2, 3, and 4...but because it doesn't directly fit a pattern we know, they're harder to grasp...so instead we're grasping for why the films aren't as good as that first one.

      Hollywood is in a bind there - the *discerning* audience wants something different and new and not retreads...but the discerning audience doesn't pay as much (and is MUCH more vocally critical when things still aren't right even if they can't explain why).

      So they decide to tell us, the discerning audience, to f' off, and they'll take the money instead from the rest of the rubes.

      On the bright side, sci-fantasy genre TV has gotten a lot better in the last few years.

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    2. Re:Garbage by WrongMonkey · · Score: 2

      They'll stop making those kinds of movies when those kinds of movies stop making money.

    3. Re:Garbage by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It could be worse. They could all be Hallmark movies.

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  16. You have more options today by Solandri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Back in the 1970s, you either paid for a movie ticket to see a movie, or waited 3-5 years for it to show up on TV at an indeterminate time, with commercials interspersed, and with unknown editing.

    Today, if you don't pay for a ticket, you can catch it on pay per view in a couple months, or rent it on Blu-ray/DVD/streaming, or watch it on a pay movie channel, or stream it from a service you already pay for like Netflix, or wait a couple years for it to show up on TV, or pirate it.

    In the face all that new competition, the logical thing to do is to lower movie ticket prices to make the theater experience more attractive. Instead, studios and theaters have done the opposite and raised ticket prices. I don't mind seeing the occasional bad movie on Netflix or Amazon Prime, or HBO because I'm already paying for those services. The only thing I lose is 90-120 minutes of my time (and that's only if I choose not to stop watching before the movie finishes). With a theater ticket I lose my money as well as my time. So I don't think it's at all surprising that people are holding theater movies to a higher standard than in the past. The studios need adapt to how technology has changed in the last 50 years - lower ticket prices, or improve the ratio of good to bad movies.

    1. Re:You have more options today by Altrag · · Score: 2

      There's a whole confluence of things going on here:
      - Sure, the price may track well with some vague metric of inflation, but wages have not, so as a wage ratio the price to an individual is still higher. Add onto that that we've got a bunch of other costs (cell phone, internet, Netflix) that many or even most of us didn't have two decades ago, and even $20 can getting stretched a bit thin if you're in the lower end of the middle class or below -- which is a large portion of the population.

      - Large, really good TVs are cheap. Cheap enough that even many below the poverty line have one. Even a full "home theater" (ie: hook up a decent sound system to your TV) is reasonable these days. Why bother with lines and crowds and overpriced popcorn when you can get basically the same experience at home with a couple of friends?

      - Movies have become more of a commodity than a luxury at this point. 20 years ago if you wanted to watch a movie you either a) went to a theater or b) rented a VHS tape to play on your tiny crappy TV. There really wasn't a middle ground, and you usually could only do that a couple times a month due to the cost and the time investment. Now with Netflix and other streaming services (never mind less legitimate sources,) we frequently just throw something on as background noise without even caring about or paying attention to it.

      - And following that, competition. 20 years ago, there was only a small handful of studios that would push movies to an even smaller number of (national) theater chains and unless you were really into the artsy type scene with connections to source lesser-known stuff from, you really had little choice in the matter -- it was between Disney's new AAA title or Newline's new AAA title. Now that theaters aren't such a limiting factor (that whole good TV thing,) there are dozens if not hundreds of studios producing at least decent movies even if they're not AAA. A lot of TV shows have become competitive as well, which is a whole new realm of competition that never really existed before. So far we don't have much international competition at least -- Hollywood still does AAA better than almost anyone else, and they're (mostly) in English so that's a huge leg up over imported films that have to be translated -- most people don't like reading subtitles and even good dubs usually sound a bit forced and miss lots of subtleties.

  17. Re:Absolutely agree by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the money matters a bit but the hugest investment is time.

    This why I prefer Netflix. If five minutes into a movie, it is obvious that it sucks, I can just switch to another. In the theater, that is much harder to do, especially if I am with other people.

  18. Maybe we could quarantine by rpresser · · Score: 2

    all the trailers in a single place, like a park. We could call it a trailer park.

  19. Save the Cat! by slew · · Score: 2

    Apparently, it's gotten so bad that even when it's different, it's the same.

    This is supposedly the book that ruined hollywood...

    This book took the history of three-act blockbuster movies and distilled movie making into a minute-to-minute movie formula (a beat sheet) for future amateur screen writers. Apparently, the author died in 2009 (the book was published in 2005) so he probably didn't know how bad it would become and can't even repent...