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US Law Allows Low H-1B Wages; Just Look At Apple (networkworld.com)

An anonymous reader writes: If you work at Apple's One Infinite Loop headquarters in Cupertino as a computer programmer on an H-1B visa, you can can be paid as little as $52,229. That's peanuts in Silicon Valley. Average wages for a programmer in Santa Clara County are more than $93,000 a year, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. However, the U.S. government will approve visa applications for Silicon Valley programmers at $52,229 -- and, in fact, did so for hundreds of potential visa holders at Apple alone. To be clear, this doesn't mean there are hundreds of programmers at Apple working for that paltry sum. Apple submitted a form to the U.S. saying it was planning on hiring 150 computer programmers beginning June 14 at this wage. But it's not doing that. Instead, this is a paperwork exercise by immigration attorneys to give an employer -- in this case, Apple -- maximum latitude with the H-1B laws. The forms-submittal process doesn't always reflect actual hiring goals or wage levels. Apple didn't want to comment for the story, but it did confirm some things. It says it hires on the basis on qualifications and that all employees -- visa holders and U.S. workers alike -- are paid equitably and it conducts internal studies to back this up. There are bonuses on top of base pay. Apple may not be paying low wages to H-1B workers, but it can pay low wages to visa workers if it wanted. This fact is at the heart of the H-1B battle.

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  1. Sounds like indentured servitude by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Government benefits from importing cheap labor. Rich landowners (now corporations) benefit from cheap labor. History is replete with rich people trying to get richer by importing slaves and/or indentured servants.

    It never works out well for society in the long run, but in the long run you're dead anyways, so might as well make some more money and bribe some more gov't officials while you're here, right?

    Doesn't matter which political party is in power, doesn't matter whether a politician is a leftist or a rightist, they ALWAYS import more cheap labor... because they want to benefit the rich (and by extension, themselves). Trump ran a campaign saying he will put a stop to this, and now that he's in power he's already he's backpedaling. He's just turning into Clinton Lite. I'll bet you large sums that if Bernie was elected, right about now he will be finding excuses to import more cheap labor too.

    1. Re:Sounds like indentured servitude by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the other hand, you had a guy who so far has not taken any political bribes

      It's kinda difficult to take a political bribe when you're not a politician. However, Trump openly bragged about giving political bribes, making it clear he was 100% corrupt.

      So it was a choice between someone who you know with a 100% certainty will do something bad, versus someone who might do it but at least he's saying he won't.

      Trump never said he wouldn't, he made it clear he was perfectly OK with bribery!

      Clinton was just another politician. She wasn't especially corrupt, the worst anyone could say about her that wasn't a blatant distortion was that she was quite happy to get paid huge sums of money for making private speeches to Wall Street. There's never been anything specific anyone could point at that Clinton did in response to getting paid to make speeches, beyond the speeches themselves. Clinton endured a 25 year long smear campaign which threw mud constantly at her, making almost every allegation of wrongdoing against her suspicious and likely false.

      Trump? I'm struggling to understand why anyone would think he wasn't going to take bribes. It sounds like a lot of people were so blinded by their hatred of Clinton that they choose to project in Trump a trust that was wholly misplaced, rather than looking at his words and history over 30-40 years, showing him as one of the nation's biggest sleezeballs.

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  2. L is more abused than H1-B by magarity · · Score: 5, Interesting

    L visas let the employer pay the foreign employee's home town wage for up to a year while in the US. When I lived in China for a couple of years I interviewed with the local IBM office about database consulting. They wanted to fly me to the US on an L visa while paying the local wage of about $1K USD which would be OK there in town but not in L.A. The hiring manager assured me on the 3rd level interview that they did it all the time and it was no problem. Then I mentioned that as a US citizen I couldn't be sent on any kind of visa and I couldn't work in the US for sub-minimum wage. He hung up and I couldn't get him to answer when I called back. Since they wanted to hire and send me immediately but an L visa requires a prior year of employment, minimum, they were obviously quite handy at lying on the paperwork. Think about this the next time big blue sends in a consultant from another country.

  3. Re: A lesson in spinning by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But there is a shortage of STEMs with 20+ years experience willing to work for 40k a year. It's absolutely impossible to find any.

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