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Many Nations Pin Climate Hopes On China, India As Hopes For Trump Fade (reuters.com)
Twelve readers share a Reuters report: Many countries are pinning their hopes on China and India to lead efforts to slow climate change amid a growing sense of resignation that U.S. President Donald Trump will either withdraw from a global pact or stay and play a minimal role. Delegates at the May 8-18 negotiations in Bonn on a detailed "rule book" for the 2015 Paris Agreement, the first U.N. talks since Trump took office, say there is less foreboding than when Washington last broke with global climate efforts in 2001. Trump doubts global warming has a human cause and says he will decide on a campaign threat to "cancel" the Paris Agreement, the first to bind all nations to set goals to curb emissions, after a group of Seven summit in Italy on May 26-27. "The time when one big player could affect the whole game is past," said Ronald Jumeau, climate ambassador for the Seychelles. "There would be a void without the U.S., but China and India seem to be increasing their effort." Big emitters led by China, the European Union and India have reaffirmed their commitment to Paris, which seeks to phase out greenhouse gas emissions this century by shifting to clean energies. By contrast, Trump wants to favor U.S. coal.
I'm glad to see it. Trump is a regressive relic of an era of disinformation and anti-science, anti-problem-solving "I can do no wrong" ethos. That has to die.
We live in a connected world. Protectionism is no protection in the long or short term. We have to address these issues as a global community, and that means making the economics of any solution apply universally as much as possible. Or it won't work.
The US can pay carbon taxes all day long but unless China and India get a serious investment in non-burning energy sources, it's a wasted effort.
So, India, China, other nations.... LEAD ON. Innovate, invest, and show the world that greedy old-coal financial interests aren't more important than the planet itself.
I agree. The world is indeed going off a cliff with climate change. Most people realize that we need to stop burning fossil fuels and that the economy will be stronger based on renewable solar and wind energy. It's a shame that the US is led by an ignorant, racist moron whose only interest is his personal wealth and ego. This means we are first off the cliff. Congratulations to India and China (and many other countries) who are trying to keep from jumping off the cliff.
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Trump won't last through the end of the year. Giving classified information to the Russians (aka treason), refusing to divest of conflict of interest business ventures, interfering with a Federal Investigation (also a felony)... and we're only 4 months in... The GOP loyalists are jumping faster than teabaggers. The drums of impeachment are thundering louder by the day. People are finally seeing the "Conservative GOP agenda", no health care for anyone but the rich, zero environmental protections, coal companies being able to dump untreated waste into rivers and streams, turn back the clock 75 years on civil rights - no, this will likely cost the GOP the House and Senate at midterms, so there's quite a good chance the tide will turn.
Didn't we obtain, after only ten years, the largest hybrid electric car fleet in the world (okay, second to japan according to wikipedia) without any government interference? Isn't solar panel technology taking off in this country, especially as people have them installed on their roofs. Aren't the local state governments still offering subsidies so as to encourage the adoption of solar panel roofs? Aren't there hundreds more americans trying to 'do their part' by recycling more, eating local foods (which can reduce CO2 emissions since the produce doesn't have to be transported thousands of miles) and don't I see more wind farms popping up every single year?
Who ever said we can only fix environmental problems by electing the 'right' president? We don't need the federal government to make a difference, we can (and I would argue are) collectively working to solve this problem through the free market mechanisms available to us!
Now excuse me while i get in my honda with ridiculously good gas mileage, and drive to the local farmers market to buy organic local produce, while i drink my Soylent meal that took 90% less CO2 to produce than any conventional meal, and then go home to my apartment that is cooled by a sun roof and electricity supplied by wind power
Indeed, a DOE analysis found that the midwest US has enough wind to produce 10x the electricity the whole country uses.
For a tech site, Slashdot seems to have a lot of people who think that the way things are today is the way they will always be, when that has never been the case.
Batteries are far from clean as well, the cheapest ones we have are full of lead and the best ones we have are full of lithium and all have a lifespan of 3-5 years.
Natural gas is great as auxiliary power and burns pretty close to optimal.
Nuclear can be clean if we wouldn't worry so much about the rogue employee running of with a nearly useless yet personally lethal portion of weapons grade uranium. We're throwing away significant amounts of fuel because of some Cold War fears and wasting more on litigation than it would cost in the first place.
Any amount of energy we generate is going to have some impact. Everybody knows coal and oil is not the way to go but the point is that everyone equally opposes any alternative.
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Except destroying the habitat we live in and need for survival is jumping off a cliff, and everyone else is smart enough to see it and take appropriate measures.
I don't get who this We everybody keeps talking about is. It certainly can't be the United States, our GHG emissions are trending down, our transportation fleet has had significant emissions controls for the last 50 years and our country has more trees than it did in the 1850's. Our world is getting greener, not just the US and it's due primarily to CO2 fertilization.
Most of the habitat destruction is done by poor brown people trying to law their way out of energy poverty; environmentalism is a middle-class luxury.
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