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Drone Pilots In China Have to Register With the Government (engadget.com)

China's Civil Aviation Authority has announced that drone pilots will be required to register any unmanned aerial vehicle heavier than 0.55 pounds with the government starting on June 1st. "Online registration will open up on May 18th, and the government will start publishing no-fly zone data for civilian airports on the same day," reports Engadget. From the report: The initiative will also see regulators working with local government and police to curb drone interference, and will eventually standardize commercial drone use with four main categories: aerial photography, agricultural use, aviation photography and license training. The country already recognizes over 200 training outlets that have issued over 14,000 certificates so far, so some of this standardization would really just expand on what's already happening. It's hard to escape concerns that this will help the government crack down on drone pilots for spurious reasons, such as when they record protests or questionable government activities. However, the registration officially comes as a response to a mounting number of safety incidents involving drones at airports. Authorities note that Chengdu alone saw eight examples of drone interference since April, six of which grounded 138 flights. If those sorts of figures are applicable elsewhere, that's a lot hassle and potential danger.

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  1. 0.55 pounds by ls671 · · Score: 2

    China's Civil Aviation Authority has announced that drone pilots will be required to register any unmanned aerial vehicle heavier than 0.55 pounds with the government starting on June 1st.

    Hmm... Ok, sounds like 250 grams.

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    1. Re: 0.55 pounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can build a racing quad to be under that but it's not easy.

    2. Re:0.55 pounds by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      What's a gram?

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    3. Re:0.55 pounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What's a gram?

      A gram is an International Standarized Measure Unit used by 90% of the World Population.

      Ignorance is what the other 10% of it uses as a shield against innovation.

    4. Re: 0.55 pounds by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      Don't worry, I'm quite sure that the people intent on building flying bombs will not get stopped by such pesky administrative problems as their flying bombs being somewhat bigger than that the legal limit.

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    5. Re:0.55 pounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a nicely standardised unit of mass, one of a well-integrated set of units.

      Certainly compared to your unsystematic and confusing jumble of outdated and obsolete backwardian "measures", that themselves randomly vary in size to boot. (Still do, in fact. How many pounds to a bushel? Depends on what's in the bushel... and which US state you're in.)

    6. Re:0.55 pounds by jandersen · · Score: 2

      Well, according to this: http://o.canada.com/business/i..., the a gram of cocaine is $480 in New Zealand, whereas a gram of marijuana is $10 - $15 in Canada. I hope this explains things for you.

    7. Re: 0.55 pounds by Z00L00K · · Score: 2

      Is that local dollars, Zimbabwe dollars or US dollars?

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    8. Re: 0.55 pounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the difference? Is there a difference, and if so is it meaningful?

    9. Re: 0.55 pounds by stooo · · Score: 2

      >> Is that local dollars, Zimbabwe dollars or US dollars?
      The currency here is not the dollar, but the gram of Cocaine or Marijuana, so the correct question is :

      "is that local drug, or where is it from ?"

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    10. Re:0.55 pounds by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      A gram is a unit adopted by a bunch of numerically semi-literate blood-thirsty European barbarians during the Reign of Terror after they decapitated large numbers of math teachers, because they couldn't stand all that dividing by 2, 12, 24, etc. The same people also came up with 10-day work weeks and 10-hour days. Like all such revolutions in Europe, a little more than a decade later, France got themselves a totalitarian ruler who abolished the unpopular 10-day week and then proceeded to go rampaging and killing across Europe.

    11. Re:0.55 pounds by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

      It's perfectly valid to use US customary units to specify quantities, especially on a US website. However, using decimals like "0.55" is a misappropriation of the SI system, and is highly discouraged.

      They should have said "8 and 13/16 ounces".

  2. China uses imperial now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm pretty sure they specified the limit weight as 250 grams.
    But hey, this is Slashdot...

    1. Re: China uses imperial now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure they specified it as 0.5 Jin since that is their standard unit for weight (2 Jin=1kg).

    2. Re: China uses imperial now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    3. Re:China uses imperial now? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure they specified the limit weight as 250 grams.

      More likely they said half of a jin.

      1 jin = 500g

      Chinese units for Mass

  3. Right tract! by EzInKy · · Score: 0

    Flying above other peoples property places them at risk. Those who do so should be held both criminally and civilly responsible.

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    1. Re:Right tract! by x0ra · · Score: 1

      Criminally responsible ? You got to be kidding me... I fear that pretty soon, I'm gonna risk less raping a women (the real rape, with the whole back-and-forth action, not just looking at a woman's leg for too long in the elevator) than flying a drone.

    2. Re:Right tract! by EzInKy · · Score: 1

      When you violate somebody you violate somebody. Both deserve equal punishment.

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    3. Re:Right tract! by stooo · · Score: 1

      >> Flying above other peoples property places them at risk. Those who do so should be held both criminally and civilly responsible.

      How is it for the operators of U.S. Killer Drones ? do they get criminally responsible when they don't murder people ?

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    4. Re:Right tract! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Driving next to other peoples property places them at risk. Those who do so should be held both criminally and civilly responsible.

      Operating a 2000lb death machine on wheels anywhere near and unprotected pedestrian is way more RISK than my flying toy. Ban all cars from citys and residential areas.

      Ohhhh your thing is ok, cause you want it to be, but mine isnt because you dont like it

    5. Re:Right tract! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is perfectly legal, planes do it all day long.

    6. Re:Right tract! by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      So flying a drone over someones house is the same as raping them? Riiiiiiiight. Can I have 250 grams of whatever you're smoking?

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    7. Re:Right tract! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      You better limit yourself to 250 grams though, otherwise you'll have to register as a drug pilot.

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    8. Re:Right tract! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drones = aircraft. Aircraft are allowed to fly over people's property. There's much larger (and numerous) aircraft flying over people's properties each day. Why so worried about a 3lb drone?

    9. Re:Right tract! by sabri · · Score: 1

      When you violate somebody you violate somebody. Both deserve equal punishment.

      You are exactly what is wrong with the world today.

      And I'm really not going to explain you why flying an unmanned aircraft is different than the act of physically forcing a woman to non-consensual sexual activities.

      Please remove yourself from the gene pool.

      Sincerely,

      The rest of the world.

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  4. OPERATORS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These are not PILOTS, these are OPERATORS!

    When the number is old and faded, you don't call the pilot, you call the operator!

    It doesn't have to make sense when you're the president!

  5. Isn't it the same in most countrie? by jandersen · · Score: 1

    Drones flying around are potentially dangerous, intrusive into privacy and are already being used in crime; I don't think anybody can dey that this is the case. I think it makes perfect sense to require them to be registered and sold under a license, and I think it is nonsense to talk about how "the government" is going to keep everybody under close surveillance that way - it is simply not practically possible, since the amount of investment in computer processing power required would far outstrip the rather infinitesimal benefits, not to mention the staggering manpower necessary to make sense of the data. The real benefits of a registration and licensing scheme is that it makes illegal operators stand out, just like it does for cars: the police can compare the registration with the identity of the owner, and if things don't add up, they will have the power to do something - confiscate the equipment, fine the operator, prosecute them etc.

    1. Re:Isn't it the same in most countrie? by Mondragon · · Score: 2

      Yes this is exactly the same in most countries - china is even later than the US, which was *super late* in this kind of regulation. The USA has an identical regulation for 250g to 25Kg (over 25Kg requires licensing, not just registration).

      I for one am not that thrilled about drones that have a mass of 20Kg only needing registration....

    2. Re:Isn't it the same in most countrie? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I for one am not that thrilled about drones that have a mass of 20Kg only needing registration....

      The reality is that most drones of that weight are going to be expensive enough that registration is the absolute least of the hurdles the creator is going to be facing. Although now I'm wondering if leaf blower engines have enough power to fly a quadcopter. I read around and it seems relatively simple to reverse a two-cycle engine, unless it has a rotary valve on the crankshaft...

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    3. Re:Isn't it the same in most countrie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a right to fly a drone when and where I damn well please,

      If you're a big corporation like Amazon, you sure do! See, when Democrats call themselves "liberals" they mean "freedom for corporations" and "crony capitalism", while their loving paternalistic guidance prevents you from harming yourself and even gives you a bit of pocket money every month!

    4. Re: Isn't it the same in most countrie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes and the freedoms the Republican party supports are for corporations to screw you and Nazis to rule you. Now that we have established both US parties are full of shit, when do we change things?

  6. /. hypocrisy by x0ra · · Score: 0

    Somehow, when China implement such a regulation, it's grandiose. The week after, when the US government goes along the same line as China implementing their own great firewall, it's inadmissible... The leftist mind's dichotomy will never cease to amaze me.

    Remember folks, the US would be doing 5% of what Chinese government do, you'd all be demonstrating against "fascism", but as China does it under the name "communism", then suddenly, it's all OK.

    1. Re:/. hypocrisy by Mondragon · · Score: 2

      Lovely meaningless diatribe.

      The US already has this exact regulation, and has had it for over a year. This is a non-story, other than China is coming into alignment with the EU and US on drone policy (where the EU was long before the US).

    2. Re:/. hypocrisy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Paid by people for alternative facts

  7. So just like the same as USA, 18 months later. by Mondragon · · Score: 1

    Why is this a story? This requirement already exists in the US.

    1. Re: So just like the same as USA, 18 months later. by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Because China has more people.

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    2. Re:So just like the same as USA, 18 months later. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only a MORON would register their flying toy. When I have to register lego's ill register my flying toys

    3. Re: So just like the same as USA, 18 months later. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because SCARY COMMUNISTS!

      captcha: daresay

  8. Wrong Headline by stooo · · Score: 1

    >> Drone Pilots In China Have to Register With the Government

    This headline is really really wrong.
    First, there's no such thing as "drone pilot", as a drone is a plane without a pilot.
    Secondly, in China everbody has to Register with the Government, not only "Drone Pilots"

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    1. Re:Wrong Headline by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Of course drones have pilot you numpty. The pilot is just elsewhere.

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    2. Re:Wrong Headline by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Of course drones have pilot you numpty. The pilot is just elsewhere.

      Some drones are completely autonomous, without even a remote "pilot".

      The headline is inaccurate. It is the owner of the drone that has to register it, not the operator.

    3. Re:Wrong Headline by ls671 · · Score: 1

      You seem to know a lot about the matter. Do you own a registered drone? If so, will you let me operate it please? That would be really cool...

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  9. What's the problem by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

    It's what most other counties are doing. Given the number of near misses with passenger aircraft recently this is a disaster waiting to happen.

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    1. Re:What's the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention simple damage to people and property. Regulate drones!

  10. Not much difference by kilodelta · · Score: 1

    Between what China is proposing and what we currently have in the U.S. Any drone over 200g in the U.S, 250g in China. Mine don't even tip 150g but I registered them.

  11. There is a logical balance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Individual Rights and Safety have a balance. As expressed by one of our founders (paraphrased), a person can do whatever they please within their "circle" of freedom. It is when they start to interfere within someone else's circle that liberty ends.

    As far as keeping safety around airports goes . . . I think it would be logical to make laws or rules not to permit casual flying of drones around airports. Who would want the 747 they are flying on to be 'dodging drones' as it takes off? That does not mean I am in favor of people having to "register" their drones. If someone really wants to cause a problem around an airport, they would use an "Unregistered Drone", anyway.

    As far as laws regarding drones flying over houses, the feds do not need to be involved. Let the local jurisdictions and municipalities decide some of that. Not every locality has the same needs.

  12. So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what? Drone pilots in the US also have to register with government. What's the big deal? If it's good enough for the US, it is good enough for anybody, right?

  13. Suggestion of international drone license by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I endorse the license and certificate. I also like to suggest a global cross licensing so that for all people can enjoy drone everywhere for recreational and commercial. The license requirement can supplement with unique country needs and can issue like international driver license. Have American TSA vetting go with an extra miles for personal checking and work with any countries that participate for supplement special instruction.

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  15. Sounds familure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe the new should be where you don't have to register?

  16. Nope by jlockard · · Score: 1

    No, he's correct. Drones are autonomous. Definition: "an unmanned aircraft or ship that can navigate autonomously, without human control or beyond line of sight". Real drones *might* be setup to allow a human to interfere with the controls, but the beauty of a drone is it just flies on its own.

    Most of the things, around the world, which are being called "drones" are actually RC (Remote Controlled or Radio Controlled) aircraft. Most the "drones" used by the US military (and CIA) are actually called UAVs (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle).

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  17. People are lDIOTS by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    If humans would use COMMON SENSE, restrictions, licenses wouldn't be an issue. Been in the R/C group for decades. I don't take my stuff anywhere near an airport, people, homes or buildings. About the only trouble I could get into is crashing into a tree, or a bird that thinks something I fly is a threat.

  18. Oh, my! Really??? by some+old+guy · · Score: 1

    Golly gee whiz, imagine having to register recreational activities with the government of Chairman Mao's workers' paradise! /sarcasm

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