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Endless OS Now Ships With Steam And Slack FlatPak Applications (endlessos.com)
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Steam and Slack are now both included as Flatpak applications on the Endless OS, a free Linux distribution built upon the decades of evolution of the Linux operating system and the contributions of thousands of volunteers on the GNOME project. The beauty of Flatpak is the ability to bridge app creators and Linux distributions using a universal framework, making it possible to bring this kind of software to operating systems that encourage open collaboration...
As an open-source deployment mechanism, Flatpak was developed by an independent cohort made up of volunteers and contributors from supporting organizations in the open-source community. Alexander Larsson, lead developer of Flatpak and principal engineer at Red Hat, provided comment saying, "We're particularly excited about the opportunity Endless affords to advance the benefits of open-source environments to entirely new audiences."
As an open-source deployment mechanism, Flatpak was developed by an independent cohort made up of volunteers and contributors from supporting organizations in the open-source community. Alexander Larsson, lead developer of Flatpak and principal engineer at Red Hat, provided comment saying, "We're particularly excited about the opportunity Endless affords to advance the benefits of open-source environments to entirely new audiences."
Want to like Linux for a desktop OS. But I just can't and mainly its because stuff just doesn't work, or doesn't always work or works poorly on Linux and much better on Windows or a Mac. If I am going to dump Windows 10 I will obviously choose Mac OS over any sort of Linux flavor. Sounds so great to be free which is about all Linux desktop has going for it these days. Maybe Chrome OS is a option for some, I myself have tried it and its just too Googleish for me. Steam totally failed on its Linux systems and why its keeps trying to sell a cobbled together limited Linux gaming platform is beyond me? If your a gamer and using Steam your going to want Windows.
OS nobody has heard of now ships with Steam and Slack... Great.
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I have never even been able to make up my mind about the existing distributions, but they just keep adding more and more. It's absolute madness. Linux makes Windows look cohesive, and that says a lot...
"built upon the decades of evolution of the Linux operating system and the contributions of thousands of volunteers on the GNOME project. "
That seemed kind of unnecessary. Are we going to start announcing all distro news in this way?
Folks, I am still looking for Linux's worthy office competitor. To me, this means an application that can be scripted, an application in which business logic can be programmed. I have developed many such applications using VBA.
Once Linux gets something near equivalent to Office on Windows, I will bite.
And yes, I am aware of LibreOffice and the like if one simply googles them. None of what I have seen cuts it, unfortunately.
Seems like a nice idea to put software like steam into a flatpak, which isolates it against the system. The only question is, how much isolation against system properties will steam and other tolerate before they say "hey, our drm is not working, when we cannot read your primary MAC address and processor type!".
comes with phone home software just like windows 10.
You also have to pay to play html5, avi, mp4 and other video formats.
And the nastiness of systemd.
No thinks endless os.
We don't want the equivalent of windows 10.
I for one am shifting, in full agreement with S. O., from various macintoshes (used for 30 years on) to obviously Linux. ;-)
Obviously there is time spent selecting the right replacements to OSX usual apps, specially as I cannot accept things resembling Win crap.
But even for the most arcane ones (a paper library manager that both autocompletes entries from internet sources and exports to open formats and to android, a raw image converter that properly deal with luminance curves and one-year-old serious cameras, an RSS reader that is something else than a puddle of intrusive messages...) the only difficulty lise in choosing.
This, definitely costs time. But compared to the 30 years I had on OSX, it's just nothing.
And now I'm not owned anymore by google, apple or microsoft app-walled-gardens.
Leaving you Wannacry
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since for the rest I am on Linux and never will have a win partition (nor a virtual machine), and don't even know Nintendo or PS4 (I'll have to ask my sons, but they seem to be old enough to have forgotten ;-)
So I am not hardcore, or maybe you may think twice before claiming "Everrry..."
Herve S.
Finally, at long last, someone has built a new Linux distro based on Ubuntu LTS. Not only that, they are an early adopter of Flatpak, which you cannot otherwise download install yourself. http://flatpak.org/getting.htm... And it runs Gnome! Seriously though, Endless is yet another Ubuntu derivative in an endless sea of Ubuntu derivatives.
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What is this frigging doublespeak that to me seems to say nothing special at all? This especially irks me: "the ability to bridge app creators and Linux distributions using a universal framework, making it possible to bring this kind of software to operating systems that encourage open collaboration".
I'm not really into this, but I installed Firejail here (basic Ubuntu Mate), and among the examples given one specifically explained how to not only 'jail Steam engine', but also firejail the Steam installer itself (that contains closed source). ;-)
And as I found this explained somewhere in my non-english language, I presume the thing must be extremely well known elsewhere
Ah, I found an english-speaking url : http://jorisvr.nl/article/stea...
Herve S.
Looking at the website, here is some of the included software (pulled directly from the website):
Metrics Kit
Metrics API — Lightweight API for recording user metrics from apps and system services.
Event Recorder Daemon — Saves recorded user metrics and transmits them in small batches when there’s an internet connection.
Metrics Instrumentation Daemon — Records information about the system, such as performance info.
Phone Home — Anonymous user counter.
A Linux distro that phones home. Well, now I think I've seen it all!
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To be able to write 133 words without actually saying anything at all is a real gift.
Also, IANAL, but I don't think I like this clause from their "Redistribution Policy":
"Physical Redistribution:You may redistribute pristine, unmodified copies of Endless OS on physical media such as CD/DVD, USB disk or SD/MMC card."
Since it's based on the Linux kernel, I'm pretty sure we can modify and redistribute it pretty much however the f#ck we want! They can restrict logos, graphics, any commercial components, etc., but that's about it. Of course, just because a company puts something in their license agreement doesn't automatically make it legal, but this is VERY misleading. REF:
https://support.endlessm.com/hc/en-us/articles/210527203-Am-I-allowed-to-redistribute-Endless-OS-
They make it sound like, just because they have included a bit of non-open-source software with their distro, this gives them complete control over redistribution policies. Again, IANAL, but I'm pretty sure that's not how the GPL works...
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Much easier to maintain than a "six-pack".
On the other hand, the lead developer is from Red Hat, and works on Gnome, and some of their other developers have caused a lot of heartburn ... (not naming any names, of course)
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Endless OS has as bright a future as OS/2
Warp!!!!!
Did Poettering go over there? If not, can we send him there? And try to undo some of completely broken scheisse that has infected our Linux distributions in the last 4-6 years or so? All you GNOME developers trying to re-create a commercial desktop OS can keep your toys over there, while those of us who need deterministic, predictable server OS's can fix this mess ourselves. Thanks.
Hire a Linux system administrator, systems engineer,
yet ANOTHER linux distribution nobody every heard of until this post..
This is so full of bile, it's amazing, it's like making Slashdot great again. The buzz makes the head spin:
* "thousands of volunteers on the GNOME project" (Gnome? Really?)
* "bridge app creators and Linux distributions" Please stop using the word apps! Whatever happened to programmers? When did they become creators?
* "a universal framework, making it possible to bring this kind of software to operating systems that encourage open collaboration" Please stop smoking this stuff, it's already killing your ability to think clearly!
Honestly, you're promoting something called "Flatpak" and never bother to mention what it actually is or does in any meaningful way. Congratulations, Slashdot is now officially unusable. *sigh*
I feel so sig.
This distro was code named 'Blowhard Linux' before the marketing department changed it.
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<flamebait>Linux is the only OS for programmers, and if you don't program then you don't really use a computer so what does it matter what you buy?</flamebait>
No but seriously you're just defining your use case such that buying something off the shelf is an option. There isn't a particularly good way to assign value judgements to use cases so you don't get to say your way is "better".
For most people it doesn't matter what OS or hardware they use. For some people it does, and for a very few people it matters that the OS is Linux. None of these people are doing anything wrong.
If there is a standard Linux right now, it is probably Ubuntu, and specifically whatever their latest LTS happens to be. Which is to say that if you as J. Random Developer are going to pick a Linux to dev against, it will probably be that.
Linux is not just the thing you use when you get tired of what Microsoft does. It is its own separate ecosystem with distinct principles of operation, tradition, and even philosophy. People have been trying to make Unix into a desktop operating system for decades, and as it happens there has been an extremely successful OS vendor selling a polished Unix desktop experience -- you may have heard of this company called Apple.
No one is pulling a bait-and-switch on you here, you simply missed the point. Linux is the product of an entirely different system of software development, and when you choose F/OSS software that's exactly what you get. If it were not open source, there would not be fragmentation. However, the world at large has a great (business-driven) need for some sort of free open source Unix, so we have collectively put a lot of work into creating and maintaining that. Other people have needed other tools and libraries and created those, and still others package up those libraries and distribute them. Creating a distro is really just creating a public repository and maybe slapping some artwork in it. You can't take away the ability to do that without taking away access to the source code, which is the whole point of having this ecosystem in the first place.
Linux does not have a fragmentation problem, because Linux cannot be a problem with Linux. You may want Linux to be different. Most people do, which is why we have so many distros. You don't get to take the Linux out of it though. And beyond that, there is also no fragmentation problem in Linux: pretty much all the same software gets packaged for all distros, and for OSX too for that matter.
Use whichever Linux you would like. The differences are mostly superficial. If you can't deal with the number of choices out there, feel free to choose another OS. The rest of us will be using Linux because of that freedom of choice.
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