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Reid Hoffman, Bill Gates, Others Ante Up Another $30 Million To Change.org the World (fortune.com)

theodp writes: Fortune reports that LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman is "leading a $30 million funding round in Change.org, a for-profit petition and fundraising website focused on social and political change." Joining Hoffman in this round, as well as an earlier $25 million round in 2014, is Bill Gates. Change.org, Hoffman explained in a Friday LinkedIn post, "helps enable a world where you don't need to hire a lobbyist to have real impact on the issues and policies that matter to you." He added, "In its decade of existence, Change.org petitions have resulted in more than 21,000 victories, i.e., instances in which a government agency, corporation, or other entity has changed a regulation or a policy in the face of a Change.org petition urging it to do so." Last year, Hoffman joined Gates and some of the biggest names in tech and corporate America who threw their weight behind a Change.org petition that tried to get Congress to fund K-12 Computer Science education. The Change.org petition fell short of its 150,000-signature goal despite claims of support from 90% of the parents of the nation's 58 million K-12 schoolchildren (based on a Google-funded survey of 1,685 parents), widespread press coverage (including a full-page ad in petition signer Jeff Bezos's Washington Post), lobbying efforts by the tech coalition that organized the petition (which counts LinkedIn and Microsoft among its members), and even some free PR from Change.org.

60 comments

  1. Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somehow, Slashdot readers will spin this as a reason to criticize Bill Gates. They can't put aside their hatred of Microsoft long enough to appreciate a good deed. No good deed goes unpunished on Slashdot.

    1. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by PoopJuggler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well that all depends on what Bill Gates is getting out of it. A lot of his "philanthropic" endeavors are really just tax dodges which are intended to benefit himself more than who he's claiming to help. Or to entrench Microsoft in developing nations. I'll applaud him when he gives without expecting anything in return.

    2. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by acrimonious+howard · · Score: 2

      Somehow, Slashdot readers will spin this as a reason to criticize Bill Gates.

      Well that all depends on what Bill Gates is getting out of it... I'll applaud him when he gives without expecting anything in return.

      It's always good for the tech industry to get more programmers applying. I think I agree with both of you - this seems to help the companies contributing, but I don't necessarily see anything wrong with the market wanting more workers that can do the job. I'd rather a kid study programming that complaining there's no coal jerbs any more.

    3. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's funny is he's tricked people into thinking he's trying to give away 99% of his money....and yet he continues to get richer every year,

    4. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that all depends on what Bill Gates is getting out of it. A lot of his "philanthropic" endeavors are really just tax dodges which are intended to benefit himself more than who he's claiming to help. Or to entrench Microsoft in developing nations. I'll applaud him when he gives without expecting anything in return.

      I am a Greek, so i know somethings about "tax dodging"; but i never understood how can someone "benefit" by giving money in philanthropy as a "tax dodge" - in any normal situation it will result in loosing more money, as in this -exaggerated- example: with 100 $ wealth/income and 99 % tax you keep the 1 $ or you "tax dodge" by giving the 100 $ and keeping the... 0 $?

      I think that Bill Gates is a honest enough with his philanthropy, and i don't understand how helping cure diseases is a plan "to entrench Microsoft in developing nations", or what he is "expecting in return" (other than a metaphysical benefit, that is normal for anyone).

    5. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Finally a ./ username that really reflects what they do

      I almost applaud you fucktard

    6. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "or you "tax dodge" by giving the 100 $ and keeping the... 0 $?"

      And then you pay nothing in taxes at the end of the year. Do you even understand how taxes work?

    7. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actually applaud Gates' efforts. It is a well established fact that educational opportunities particularly for women and minimum healthcare standards all add up to a lower birth rate in developing countries. And if there is one thing we can all agree on, the birth rate in sub-Saharan Africa needs to be drastically reduced. Anything to lower the number of worthless niqqers in this world I'm all for. Bill Gates, you are doing God's work.

    8. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by amightywind · · Score: 0

      I would rather have the US government commit to change the world back.

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    9. Re: Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think bill gates is doing this but here's one way to dodge taxes: donate to a foundation that pays for things you wanted anyway: vacation in Florida becomes global summit to tackle coal worker poverty, or fight to save the Russian president's bonus. Better still become president and let the taxpayers pay for it directly.

    10. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by marquisdepolis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm confused by this. Everything Bill Gates does can of course be spun as a selfish tax dodge, but surely it's a good thing that he's given away $28Bn (so far) on education and health. I mean this is a guy who can buy himself a few countries if he wanted to, and instead he's working hard to try and make the world a better place for others. I just don't see what's this amazing selfish return he's getting that requires him to give away 28 BILLION dollars. It must be something pretty amazing ... Why should we care if he's only doing this as a tax dodge as long as good is being done? I don't care about his motives being pure as driven snow, he's not a saint and afaik doesn't claim to be one. Surely his actions give him enough air cover regarding the good he's doing.

    11. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm always suspicious when the people who fuck up the world the most turn "philanthropists". Its like a rapist bringing you flowers.

    12. Re: Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by negRo_slim · · Score: 1

      No spin needed, I for one just vehemently disagree with the push for computer science mandates in early education. Civics, the arts, personal finance, nutrition, so many things are much more appropriate than programming and iPads and all that junk.

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    13. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Knowing these globalists, the flowers will contain chloroform, so they can rape you again.

    14. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by jimtheowl · · Score: 1

      You're not a Greek. Just someone trying to spin his view about Greeks and Gates.

    15. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Change.org is a for-profit corporation.

    16. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like Al Gore using "the better good" of "environmentalism" to make himself money. In this case, it's a whole bunch of raging driving it.

    17. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who cares what a bunch of ancient farts that still hold a grudge regarding Gates and Microsoft think. Gates will be remembered for generations for his philanthropic work. No one will remember those who hated him.

    18. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try this instead

    19. Re: Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like Facebook

    20. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i don't understand how helping cure diseases is a plan "to entrench Microsoft in developing nations", or what he is "expecting in return" (other than a metaphysical benefit, that is normal for anyone).

      Slashdot, in general, hates Microsoft so in turn hates anything the former CEO and founder does so if he is to make a tax deductible donation then they'll tell you it's all because of the tax deduction (despite the obviousness of only being able to deduct a loss).

      Curing diseases in developing nations? That's an evil Microsoft plot! Educating children on coding in cross-platform, non-Microsoft languages like Javascript? That's an evil Microsoft plot too! It's all big conspiracy to import more H1Bs, drive down wages and increase his tax deductions!

    21. Re:Somehow Slashdot readers will spin this by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Well that all depends on what Bill Gates is getting out of it. A lot of his "philanthropic" endeavors are really just tax dodges which are intended to benefit himself more than who he's claiming to help.

      This isn't a philanthropic effort or a tax dodge, from what I can see there it is investing in a funding round of a for-profit company.

  2. Change.org is a symptom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A symptom of the 24/7 rage machine called the internet. It's not productive, results in no real change, but people get to bitch at each other.

    Every issue gets forgotten within a week as you go back to your real life. Bill Gate can spend his money as he likes, but what a wasted effort.

    1. Re:Change.org is a symptom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what a wasted effort.

      I disagree. It's good PR and it's tax deductable. Win-win ... for Gates.

    2. Re:Change.org is a symptom by exomondo · · Score: 1

      I disagree. It's good PR and it's tax deductable. Win-win ... for Gates.

      I don't think investing during a funding round of a for-profit company is a valid tax deduction.

  3. For all the time I thought it was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a official whitehouse website.
    Agh!

    1. Re:For all the time I thought it was by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      Now it's an official anti - White House website.

    2. Re: For all the time I thought it was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should rename it to change.borg

  4. But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, I'll never understand the things that get funded; I'll never understand how people can just throw away $30 million on something like this—that's a lot of money!

    1. Re:But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because $30 million is pocket change to the people that are funding it, and it helps them come across as being concerned philanthropists. Despite the fact that it's almost entirely useless for it's stated purpose, as a PR ploy it's probably got more bang for the buck than almost anything else they could do.

  5. Yay! Online petitions! by Chas · · Score: 1

    The main problem with Change.org is that it's still easy to ignore online petitions like theirs.

    They tout their "victories".

    How many petitions fell by the wayside or were simply told "no"?

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  6. Wish it was working toward real good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fundamental problem we face is that people simple lack respect for human life. And this will literally never change as long as we can legally murder unborn children. There is real true evil in the world and most people here are unfortunately on the wrong side.

  7. Showboating hypocrisy by Cyberpunk+Reality · · Score: 2

    If they cared about these issues, as opposed to wanting to pretend to care, they could be doing more than asking others to commit more than an insignificant percentage of their own net worth to the issue.

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  8. Re:Yay! Online petitions! by Jzanu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The raw number of victories on any issues is the significant measure of effectiveness. Cost per petition is tiny, and diversity increases impact as well as traffic and exposure for all petitions. Global scope means it isn't tied up in the American political gang wars. For instance, The fight against slavery in Mauritania benefits from exposure to those in nations that enforce peace and human rights. Those who could end it don't because they think it doesn't hurt them, but a sign of international will scares them into action. Force always follows awareness, and that applies all the way from economic to military intervention.

  9. Re:Yay! Online petitions! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I find it quite ironic that Hoffman says "enable a world where you don't need to hire a lobbyist to have real impact," which he accomplishes by throwing huge amounts of money behind a political initiative (the very essence of lobbying).

  10. Re:Yay! Online petitions! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The main problem with Change.org is that it's still easy to ignore online petitions like theirs.

    The real "main problem" is that, while "still easy", it may become difficult "to ignore online petitions like theirs".

    I am a Greek that just checked this "change.org", and a popular petition right now is about a Muslim that was arrested in Greece for human trafficking of "refugees"; this petition asks from the Greek state to "let him leave Greece", and it is supported by... non-Greeks!

    So, thank God, "it's still easy to ignore online petitions like theirs"!

  11. Re: Yay! Online petitions! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's not necessarily inconsistent. If the only way to get things done right now is quasi lobbying behaviour, then maybe that's the way to create a platform which makes lobbying non-necessary

  12. No K-12 Computer Cirriculuum Needed by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    We don't need more coders. We lack in the basics of reading, writing, speaking, civics, knowledge of history, science and math. Build a foundation first.

  13. Cheapskates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like most of the rich liberals, they already made their money and have acquired their power. Now lets change the rules for the rest of us so they can transform into our compassionate overlords.

  14. It's it just a PAC? by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    Also, why is it Change.org if it's for profit? Aren't orgs suppose to be non-profits?

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    1. Re:It's it just a PAC? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Also, why is it Change.org if it's for profit? Aren't orgs suppose to be non-profits?

      There are no such rules. I got a .org just because I could, not because I had to. Of course, now, I'm kicking my own ass over it.

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  15. Big Deal by VonSkippy · · Score: 1

    Pocket change from Billionaires - oh how generous.

  16. Re:Yay! Online petitions! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The main problem with Change.org is that it is for-profit and sells your details every time you sign a petition on their site.

  17. It's interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... the issues and policies that matter to you.

    Strange that no-one is lobbying for literacy, which NCLB was meant to fix, sex education, or after-school care. It's difficult to imagine such issues don't matter to parents.

  18. The best government by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    The best government money can buy!

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  19. Re:Yay! Online petitions! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, Greece is ahead of the curve in ignoring petitions. Hell, they even ignore referenda. Remember that day when the people voted oxi and the government turned around and said nai?

  20. Bill Gates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not spend the cash on Global Warming, Billy?

    1. Re:Bill Gates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He already spends plenty on global warming. His big mansions. His yacht vacations. His private jet rides. All those things contribute significantly to global warming. He seems to have taken a few pages out of the Al Gore playbook. Do as I say, not as I do.

    2. Re:Bill Gates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are a faggot

  21. Percentage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What percentage of his net worth did Bill Gates personally contribute to this cause? Is he and the others associated with this cause asking each of use to contribute approximately the same percentage of our own net worth? Or maybe...more?

  22. irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    change.org, in trying to fight lobbying, have become a lobbyist. Though maybe they are more like a mafia trying to strong arm government. Another irony, why do people hate rich people influencing politics but do not mind rich people influencing politics through change.org? Though they are for-profit, so their first concern is making money, anyone asking what Bill Gates and Linked in get in return for the money they give to change.org?

  23. No wonder my split up Micro$oft petition keeps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    getting deleted. Should have known.

  24. More Greenwashing for Billionaire Greed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like the Gates Foundation, Zuck's foundation, etc. its more greenwashing and moralizing to cover Billionaire greed and the equivalent of a Mafia Bust-out.

    When the Mafia take over a business they loot the assets, run up credit bills, and run off with everything. Leaving a shattered husk. This essentially is the modus operandi of George Soros, who perfected that move while hunting Jews for the Nazis at age 14, of which he remains proud of, auctioning off the assets of concentration camp bound victims. Warren Buffet, who has not lived in Omaha for years (he lives in Palm Beach or NYC with one of his many mistresses) and Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos and Carlos Slim do the same thing:

    A. Launch a "charitable foundation" that aims to "fix" conditions such as war, poverty, etc.
    B. Put most / all of the press on the payroll, its quite cheap. [Most journalists work for either Soros and the Tides foundation which offers direct payments often exceeding raw salaries, Carlos Slim at the NYT, or Jeff Bezos of the Washington Post, or indirectly Bill Gates and Warren Buffet through the Gates Foundation].
    C. Gain control of various assets while making sure to demonize "nationalists" who argue the assets belong to the people of the country not foreign billionaires.
    D. Loot said assets as quickly as possible and then leave ruined husks behind for the suckers, the people of that nation, to clean up.

    Change.org is nothing more than a billionaire green-washing scheme. Moar Immigration so Carlos Slim can get another $20 billion from Mexican and Central American bound telephone calls (seriously, that is how he got to be a billionaire, he bribed his way into that telecom monopoly in Mexico). MOAR Global Warming green stuff so Bill Gates and Buffet can make billions -- like barring pipelines so their Burlington Northern Railroad can carry all that oil.

  25. Labeling their products as altruism by Alascom · · Score: 1

    "helps enable a world where you don't need to hire a lobbyist"

    Billionaires fund a lobby to "help the little guy" with issues that "matter". They are advertising their efforts as altruism, while in reality selling products, corruption and partisan politics.

    Meanwhile, the average citizens are sending their money to the ACLU and the NRA to protect the guarantees in the Constitution's Bill of Rights.

  26. Seems evil to me by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    >> a for-profit petition and fundraising website.

    So what makes this any different from just another big megacorp buying off politicians to protect its own agenda?

  27. Re:Yay! Online petitions! by Chas · · Score: 1

    Why would it make it any more difficult?

    "Three million violent economic migrants signed a Change.org petition to let a murdering rapist go."

    "I don't visit Change.org, therefore, not even a single pico-fuck is given."

    "But you're going to get a copy delivered to you to."

    "This is what a trashcan is for. Single pico-fuck STILL ungiven."

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