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Top-Secret NSA Report Details Russian Hacking Effort Days Before 2016 Election (theintercept.com)

Russian hacking groups played a larger role in the 2016 election than anyone realized, according to a highly-classified NSA document published today in The Intercept. The document reveals that a Russian intelligence operation sent spear-phishing emails to more than 100 local election officials days before the election, which ran through a hack of a U.S. voting software supplier. The Russian cyber espionage operation was functional for months before the 2016 U.S. election. From the report: It states unequivocally in its summary statement that it was Russian military intelligence, specifically the Russian General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate, or GRU, that conducted the cyber attacks described in the document: "Russian General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate actors ... executed cyber espionage operations against a named U.S. company in August 2016, evidently to obtain information on elections-related software and hardware solutions. ... The actors likely used data obtained from that operation to ... launch a voter registration-themed spear-phishing campaign targeting U.S. local government organizations." This NSA summary judgment is sharply at odds with Russian President Vladimir Putin's denial last week that Russia had interfered in foreign elections: "We never engaged in that on a state level, and have no intention of doing so." Putin, who had previously issued blanket denials that any such Russian meddling occurred, for the first time floated the possibility that freelance Russian hackers with "patriotic leanings" may have been responsible. The NSA report, on the contrary, displays no doubt that the cyber assault was carried out by the GRU.

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  1. Re:Even if there was hacking.... by naubol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... is there any evidence that it changed the outcome?

    And if there were, what difference would that make, now?

    I'm betting zilch.

    So, let's do nothing? Are you that worried it might delegitimize your guy? Is this where we're at, that we're so partisan we can't repel a foreign invader? That's straight out of the colonial playbook. Divide and conquer.

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  2. Hmmm by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So we go from "they hacked us" to "they tried to hack us"? Not quite the same accusation. Next it will go from "It was the Russian government" to "it was someone using an IP from Russia"...

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    1. Re:Hmmm by Bradbo · · Score: 4, Informative

      The report doesn't say "using an IP address from Russia" -- it says it was from the Russian Military. I don't think the NSA would get the two confused. Also, the report says that at least one email account was probably compromised ("probably" being intel-speak for "very high confidence"). With a compromised email account, further phishing attacks are much more likely to be successful. So we don't know the extent of the hacking results (at least from this one report), but it was not a "attempt to hack" but a "successful hack" with unknown-as-yet damage.

    2. Re:Hmmm by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you look at the actual public evidence, that's all we've got.

      Exactly. The document in question takes a quite conclusive tone on the matter, but does not divulge any raw intelligence data or the methods used to assess that data.

      Now, either the NSA personnel who produced this document are a hell of lot less smart than you are, or the document is a fake, or there is private information that the rest of us don't have.

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    3. Re:Hmmm by bmo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      regarding your last paragraph:

      I don't want our sitting president, DJT, ousted.

      He is unable to get anything done. Even Republicans within his own party balk at the idiocy that comes out of the WH as a "budget" And that's being nice.

      His 4am shitter tweets are a sight to behold. I'm not talking about the new Scrabble 7 letter word - I'm talking about all the rest of them that any sensible PR person would be screaming at him about.

      He is a disgusting human being who is only liked as he is because he can play the media like Perlman plays the fiddle and sometimes he's funny. But beyond that, his overall behavior that I have seen since the 80s has been atrocious.

      I could go on.

      Yes, we could remove him. He's arrogant enough to leave a trail a mile wide, thinking nobody will walk down it.

      Yes, we could remove him, but next in line are Pence and Granny Starver Ryan. And if you look at the list, it's assholes all the way down. But they're competent politicians. They know how to say the nice things while stabbing you in the back and you'll thank them for the stab. Trump is fucking incompetent, as we have seen over the past months (it feels like years). The only people left who truly support him are impervious to facts.

      As a member of the opposition (I am no longer a dem, because they are Reaganism in Drag, with the drag getting a little threadbare, but as such they are slightly less evil), I want Trump to be stuck to the Republican Party and have them own him at least until the 2018 elections and hopefully to the 2020 elections (to be tossed on his ass by the R party or him rage-quitting)

      Because he is so /useful/ to the opposition as an idiot. He brings the media. The media, being stenographers these days, sometimes shines light on the shenanigans unwittingly. More so now than in the past because Trump is entertainment and ratings. For example, we've had Darrel Issa trapped on a rooftop at his town-hall, and similar things have been happening to other congressdroids. People are pissed. I want them to remain pissed. Anger directed in a useful direction is good. They're now getting angry at the people who wish them harm. In order for this to keep going, Trump must remain in office to generally draw attention to government.

      Russiagate is a distraction from the real issues - that both the Democratic and Republican parties are Neoliberal economically and considering the last administration, the Democrats are Neoconservatives on foreign policy (we're in how many wars now?) and Heaven Forfend that the public actually gets wind of this.

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  3. Re:Even if there was hacking.... by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The attempted/failed wiretapping of the Democratic National Committee's office in the Watergate Hotel during the 1972 Presidential Campaign didn't change the outcome of that election either.

    I guess we should have ignored all that stuff back then.

  4. Re:Leaker caught and arrested by Tempest_2084 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Reality Winner? Seriously? The parents who named this poor kid are the ones who should be arrested.

  5. I miss the old slashdot by stinerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well I knew that slashdot jumped the shark awhile back, but when most of the comments are defending the Russians, it's reached an all new low.

    1. Re:I miss the old slashdot by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well I knew that slashdot jumped the shark awhile back, but when most of the comments are defending the Russians, it's reached an all new low.

      Well, as people get older they do get more conservative...

      More seriously - it's been true, for a lot of years, that whenever Slashdot has run a story which casts a bad light on Putin... an awful lot of anonymous pro-Putin posts appear. We saw it when he had his country invade the Ukraine; we saw it when he rigged the 2012 Russian election; and we see it now. It would be interesting to examine Slashdot's web logs.

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    2. Re:I miss the old slashdot by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Informative

      There are plenty of putinbots out there, but also plenty of alt-right types who pretty much openly admire autocrats like Putin

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  6. Re:Leftist Media 101 by arth1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If anything, that she was arrested lends credibility to the document being real.

  7. Re:Even if there was hacking.... by fluffernutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about understand exactly what happened, lock things down and educate people so it is at least harder to pull off next time? Or is that too common sense?

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  8. Re:Even if there was hacking.... by grcumb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So you would do what? Bomb Russia?

    Oh, I don't know. How about not roll back the sanctions you placed on them for doing exactly this?

    How about getting the President to listen to his own National Security Advisor, and Secretaries of State and Defence, and vocally support Article 5 of the NATO treaty?

    How about the administration not try to hide communications with them from their own government?

    How about quit fucking lying about having no contact with them? If they're no threat, and if it's no big deal, then why lie? That's a real question—why so much deception? It makes no sense.

    How about quit treating the whole situation as utterly innocuous, and without indulging in dated anti-Soviet rhetoric or blowing it off as it's perfectly normal, come to grips with the fact that Russia is a strategic competitor, and is opposed to many American interests?

    How about admitting that the Putin administration has a stake in deligitimising democratic norms and processes, because doing so helps him maintain a increasingly tight grip on the Russian population, and maybe, you know, not fucking help with that?

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  9. Re: Hillary lost because of RUSSIA! by fluffernutter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Doesn't really seem like it's going anyone's way. I mean, Trump might end up doing something good but he's been fairly paralyzed so far.

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  10. Re:Hysteria by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This continued media frenzy became tiresome some time ago. Can we move on to something new to be outraged about?

    You seem to be conflating "important" and "entertaining".

    Important stuff is often quite boring, at least at the outset before you understand what's going on.

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  11. Re:Hillary lost because of RUSSIA! by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Partisan politics-as-usual bullshit
    Focusing on Clinton instead of the BIGGER PICTURE

    Listen buddy: IDGAF about Hillary; I didn't vote for the old bat and I didn't vote for Cheeto-head either, but I do give a good god-fucking-damnit about whether some Russian military assholes, on the orders of the head Russian asshole, HACKED OUR GODS-BE-DAMNED ELECTION PROCESS AND GOT AWAY WITH IT! Is that so fucking hard for you and EVERYONE LIKE YOU to understand!?

    Meanwhile your boy Cheeto-head, the Pussy-Grabber-in-Chief, is FUCKING OVER THE COUNTRY with his ham-fisted attempts at being President. You still happy with your choice for POTUS, boy?

  12. Re:Even if there was hacking.... by Minupla · · Score: 4, Informative

    Intent != crime.

    Generally speaking breaking into someone else's system and sending a spear phishing email would get you well into illegal.

    Quoting form the NPR's article at: http://www.npr.org/2017/06/05/...

    VR Systems, a Florida-based election systems provider referenced in the material, said in a statement:

    "When a customer alerted us to an obviously fraudulent email purporting to come from VR Systems, we immediately notified all our customers and advised them not to click on the attachment. We are only aware of a handful of our customers who actually received the fraudulent email and of those, we have no indication that any of them clicked on the attachment or were compromised as a result."

    Now we can argue on if it impacted the results of the election. I don't think anyone knows the answer to that question, but it now appears the question of if there was an attempt by someone to infiltrate the electoral system is pretty solidly answered.

    Attribution is a trickier problem, but I'll buy that the NSA has pretty good resources at its fingers for that, and they seem pretty conclusive in the documents provided by the Intercept.

    It'll be interesting to see how this comes out, but I'm now convinced that a crime occurred, since VR Systems has confirmed such and any vested interest they have in the matter would be to deny rather then confirm, as it'll undoubtedly damage them commercially going forward.

    Min

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