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Trump Wants To Modernize Air Travel By Turning Over Control To the Big Airlines (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Today, President Donald Trump endorsed a plan to hand over oversight of the nation's airspace to a non-profit corporation that will likely be largely controlled by the major airlines. Republicans argue that privatizing air traffic control will help save money and fast track important technological upgrades. But Democrats and consumer groups criticize that plan as a corporate giveaway that will inevitably harm passengers. The air traffic reform proposal, which fell short in Congress last year, would transfer oversight from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to a government-sanctioned, independent entity that would be made up of appointees from industry stakeholders. The effort picked up steam when the union representing air traffic controllers endorsed the plan, citing years of understaffing by the FAA. Some passengers may balk at the idea of handing over day-to-day management of the nation's highly complex air traffic control system to the same companies that rack up tens of thousands of customer complaints a year, and occasionally physically assault or drag passengers off their planes. But the Trump administration argues this is the only way to modernize a system that still runs on technology that's been around since World War II. The FAA is already years into a technology upgrade known as NextGen, which involves moving from the current system based on radar and voice communications to one based on satellite navigation and digital communications. The FAA wants to use GPS technology to shorten routes, save time and fuel, and reduce traffic delays by increasing capacity.
Two things that come to mind when I think about Republcans:
1. Embrace of technological progress.
2. Telling the truth about what motivates their policies.
Understaffed, undertrained, people die.
This is about rich people making even more money, not about anything else. I wish people would stop the nonsense about greater efficiency. It always ends up badly for regular people, just ask the people in Flint Michigan about their water.
A brain is a terrible thing to waste... Mind? That's debatable.
against the Unions. this will be good.
The plan is to create an NGO to operate it, fully funded by user fees -- not to hand control over to the airlines.
This system is used in about 50 countries, including Canada, the UK, and Australia.
Or, like many government-backed and -funded projects, it'll never complete in its current form, under current management.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Oh, yeah. I really want my safety to be weighed against someone's profit margin in a spreadsheet somewhere.
Government is not a business. It should not be run like a business. People who think it should be should not be allowed anywhere near a decision making office in government.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
We can't let terrorists win!
It's corporations who must be the leaders in civilian deaths caused by crashed planes!
Not a bunch of religious fanatics armed with box cutters.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
You mean like go back to the TWENTIETH CENTURY MODEL where airports or airlines ran the security lines?
We are *NOT* talking about the TSA, we are talking about the FAA. Different.
In *principle* this could work, but more likly, Trump will hand it off to some corporation that sends a lobbiest with a large bag of cash to suck his cock.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
ATC and the TSA are under completely separate agencies. What makes you think that a change in the way the FAA does business will change anything about Homeland Security?
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
GPS is fine when it works. What will happen to air travel when GPS goes down?
This could happen through a technical fault (likely locally, unlikely globally) or via enemy action (jamming locally, destruction of the infrastructure globally).
Remember that the C/A (coarse/acquisition) code that we civilians use for navigation was never meant for that. Like the Internet, various bits of old and new technology and capability gradually accreted into something upon which our entire economy depends. That something was not designed as a whole, and was certainly not designed for robustness and dependability. Ponder this the next time you step onto a plane.
Not a chance. ATC is under the FAA, TSA is under Department of Homeland Security.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Presumably there will be an up-charge for "premium traffic control".
Nullius in verba
And then you can have a supreme council, a council of the heads of councils if you will.
This was briefly the government of Italy, with ministers of Agriculture and Forestry, Corporations, Finance and so on. This was called the Grand Council of Fascism, which see.
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The foxes don't care about any particular hens, only the fact that there are hens to eat. Smart businessfoxes would keep a large population of overfed, misinformed hens and kill off a percentage around the edges of hen society, maybe by taking away their health care, disability, and food stamps.
Man, you really need that seminar!
This is a bad idea that the airline lobby floats every few years. When the Democrats had control, they almost bought it until cooler heads prevailed. With Republicans in charge, it's time for another try. There really isn't much that the Federal government couldn't improve with privatization, but this is one of those things.
If this passes, the airlines will dominate the privatized company, transferring as much cost as they can to general aviation, while abusing their power for the purpose of limiting competition. They will dumb-down the controllers, resulting in chaos. It's hard to believe anyone could make the air travel industry any less accountable than it already is, but empowering an industry with a notoriously poor reputation of policing itself would be one way to do it.
Have we learned nothing from privatized airport security? Although I despise TSA, I have to admit that privatized airport security prior to 9/11 was absolutely useless. TSA, for all its well-documented flaws, ended the concept of minimum wage and constant turnover among security agents.
The NextGen program has had several high-profile failures. The implementation of new routes in Phoenix resulted in a large number of complaints and lawsuits against the FAA. The more recent changes in the SF Bay Area including routing a much higher number of aircraft over Palo Alto and lower elevations in the Santa Cruz Mountains, both of which have angered a great many residents.
Jet traffic brings noise pollution and air pollution to the corridors they travel, resulting in health impacts (though difficult to measure) and sometimes significant reductions in property value. The previous corridors have been used for decades and the impact is well-understood by residents in those areas; the change was not well-communicated before being implemented and residents were mostly caught unawares.
The benefits of these changes include a higher volume of traffic to airports, increasing airport profits; more efficient routes for airlines, increasing airline profits; and potentially cheaper fares for customers resulting from the first two changes. Speaking personally, I would rather keep my home value and quieter skies.
The wheel it turns, around and around, with an ancient rumbling sound.
Hahahaha.
No the foxes eat the hens, burn down the hen house, and then ask the government for some help because they are to important to fail.
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I can't get too furious about this. I'm reading all the things that could go wrong in the comments and why it's a bad idea, and, it's not anything too terrifying. Cost of airfare is always gonna go up one way or another. If it goes up too much, then seats are empty, and airlines lose money; the market adjusts. And if this proposed company screws up, then oversight still drops in and starts making changes. I know it feels weird for Trump to support something that isn't the dumbest idea ever, but, how about we agree to this one, if you give the Democrats something in return for that support...y'know, the way politics used to behave?
Canada did the exact same thing (privatize to an NGO) in 1996.
Nav Canada, the NGO that operates Canada's air traffic control, has won three IATA Eagle Awards for Best Air Traffic Controller since 2001. It also closely coordinates with the existing FAA ATC system as the Canadian and US airspace are extremely interrelated (perhaps the most so in the world).
Canada is one of about 50 countries that have gone this route (Britain, Germany, Australia and New Zealand are among the countries that have done so). Nav Canada even sells their system (Australia runs on it) - we could potentially just buy a solution.
Money coming from tax payers means that everyone, from poor to rich pay for the services. As opposed to people who can afford to use the airlines paying an additional fee to support the services they actually use. Considering the ultra wealthy can afford to pay a lesser rate for their taxes (the 80,000 page US tax code isn't that large to make it fair) it's the rest of the population paying for this today!
This is the problem with a whole lot of projects and schemes where both the far left and far right claim that we need Government to be our savior. Government tends to be horrible at everything, and maintaining and growing their tax funded budget is prioritized over everything else.
I'll really have to consider this more deeply over the next few days, but I'm fine with it as is. The FAA seems to be maintaining oversight of standards, investigations into incidents, etc.. and if that's the case I will remain fine with it.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Sure, Iranian women wearing niqabs with those Ballet Fantastique - Esther Costume Inspiration gowns and using big translucent displays with the Minority Report gestural interface. I think I saw them in MiB 17 when I was dreaming once. Or, we could go with boring old Watson.
Huh? Who cares?
If some academic out there actually came up with 31 genders that's really no concern of mine. Now pollution and climate change, that actually affects things. I can ignore people in ivory towers coming up with complicated classification schemes, but being ignoring unable to breathe is kind of hard.
Somebody is actually spending time feeling outraged about this 31 genders nonsense?
Airlines will now be able to offer flights with positive air traffic control as a premium upgrade.
*cha-ching*
Although many don't see it, America leads in freedom of personal aviation. I can use my aircraft just as I use my car. I have proper FAA licenses and medical certificates. I am instrument rated and can fly with the same rules as the airlines. I can also get in my plane and go camping at a remote strip or visit a restaurant in the next town's airport without requesting permission from anyone just as I would with my car. If I fly into big central airports following the same rules as the airlines then I can and do coordinate with the proper FAA officials. My use of these facilities is fully funded by taxes levied on the aviation gasoline that I burn n the plane. The idea here is that as a free American I can choose my mode of transportation within the nation's transportation system on the same basis as anyone else, private or corporate. For the most part, my aircraft is like my car.
With a switch from costs coming from taxes on aviation gasoline to "user fees" for various specific operations and a switch from a government control system to a private NGO the freedom to use an aircraft much like a car for personal transportation will mostly disappear. This is exactly what has happened in (e.g.) Europe where(for example) fees for each takeoff and landing effectively stop practice at small airports.
Then a governing board that will inevitably be dominated by the airlines will set the rules so that those pesky private aircraft will be effectively gone.
If you like this idea, then please accept the same for our highways. Each time you drive to the store for some milk, every time you take a weekend at the lake, you must first file a "drive plan" with a corporate board run by the trucking industry. Then you will give a credit card number so that your driveway exit, road use, and parking use fees will be automatically paid for the trip.
And if you think that this is tin-foil-hat stuff, please look at the rules for private aircraft in Europe and the rest of the world.
This is the death of one more freedom that we currently have in this great country.
I hear 'ya, brother!
Now, can you tell me more about the 31 genders?
You have your nuts, we have ours.
We don't let ours run the country.
Reality is a slackware box running on a 386 tucked away in god's sock drawer.
Air traffic control radar can't see airliners by itself at any reasonable distance. Planes are equipped with transponders that send out radio signals when the plane is "painted" by the ATC radar. If civilian radars can't see transponderless airliners, they will have no hope of seeing small drones.
Military radar is another matter.
by turning driving over to big corporate driverless cars?
Sorry, I thought we were talking about air traffic control. I guess that's the problem with metaphors.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
"If some academic out there actually came up with 31 genders..."
I'm not sure it was an academic, more likely it was someone from the lunatic fringe of some protest movement.
It's the intellectual equivalent of nullifying your argument by saying, "Nahh nahh poopiehead." "It's clear, sir, that you make quite valid points. But I'm going to comment on something outrageous to call attention to the ridiculousness of it all, while trying to minimize your logic. Also, you're a doodie." You know, something like that.
Oh, goddammit. I finally decided to spend sometime to figure out what's all this nonsense about.
It's an ad: https://heatst.com/culture-war...
Somebody just made an ad to say "here we're accepting of everybody, regardless of what you call yourself", and then posted a list of 31 terms, some of which seem duplicates to me (eg, Male-To-Female and MTF both appear in the list, as well as several variations on "trans").
Basically, whoever made that list tried listing absolutely every possible term they could think of just to drive home that point. That's all there is to it. It's like doing the same thing for racism and then filling a page with Wikipedia's list of nationalities.
And this is what people decided to get all outraged about? Sheesh. People have too much free time these days.
...the FAA's update has been called "the worst boondoggle ever", the (Iirc) 3rd failed update effort, eating tens of billions of dollars.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp...
I know the narrative is that "every trump idea is stupid" but this plan has worked several times in other countries quite well, including Canada...
-Styopa
There's no valid points that are being made here. I finally figured out that all this hubhub is over some random ad NYC posted, and that was probably made by some random intern that just spent a while looking for every gender related term they could find so that it would look as inclusive as possible, and never thought anybody would even think of making a big deal of it.
I personally knew some GOP planners; this is how they plan:
1) Purposely fuck up government services as much as they possibly can without getting into trouble themselves: get people to hate stuff they like.
2) FUD against government services and politicians... Uncertantity and Doubt = lower voter turn out. Fear (often connected to Hate) is central to their campaigning.
3) Run on reform for said services counting on the public to not be smart enough to see wolves in sheeps' clothing.
4) After the public is upset enough, privatize services for huge profit. Continue FUD and coverups until it becomes the new normal. Then just maintain it as people forget the past (before they screwed it up) plus without oversight people don't know a fraction of what goes on compared to before.
Their plan for education was to make people hate public education which is highly popular. So it involves much more to ruin the system-- such as pitting groups against each other. I asked "won't that harm a generation of students?" and they replied "it's worth it, we can handle the loss of a few generations; besides the best kids will go to private schools and that should keep the USA #1." I'm not kidding. Their ideology is stronger than their religion.
https://magicmoneytree.net/
The problem is that FAA is not only an infrastructure operator, it is also a regulator. Hence what we see here is government-pushed Regulatory capture
I let the metaphor get away from me intentionally because I see it as part of an overall attitude. The administration would prefer to enrich a handful of self interested corporations at the expense of government workers and consumers. This attitude is typical, the same approach they take to regulations, health care, social safety net, etc.
Man, you really need that seminar!
Just Have too...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Pre-911, the airlines ran security for half the price, with much shorter delays, and with more courtesy and politeness. Penetration testing has shown that TSA is no better than their predecessors at catching perps.
"By turning over control to the big airlines" This is supposed to scare you and think "OMG, if the big airlines get control over the FAA then they will be able to beat up passengers legally!"
Air Traffic Control is mostly about co-ordinating which planes are going where so as to ensure they don't crash into each other during flight. The private airline companies may not have much incentive to offer great customer service, but they have a BIG incentive to make sure that their planes don't crash. Because A) You loose a lot of money if your plane crashes, its not just the cost of the plane, its the fact that your airline probably took out a loan to pay for that plane and now they have a monthly payment to make but no plane to generate ticket revenue to pay for it B) That is a heck of a hit to your insurance rate for the insurer to pay out to all the citizens that lost loved ones C) Its a really big PR hit to your sales
Let air traffic control be privatized like Trump wants. Its actually a pretty good idea whose origins go back to the Bill Clinton days. Just because the Air traffic control part would be privatized doesn't mean congress couldn't continues to pass laws ensuring fair business practices regarding prices or security.
http://crankyflier.com/2006/10...
There are times when it makes since to go with the lowest bidder, but it usually isn't government services. If the government wants something done correctly, without spelling out the most minor details or anticipating every possible short-cut, it should probably handle it on its own.
I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person that I'm preaching to.
I let the metaphor get away from me intentionally because I see it as part of an overall attitude. The administration would prefer to enrich a handful of self interested corporations at the expense of government workers and consumers. This attitude is typical, the same approach they take to regulations, health care, social safety net, etc.
The thing is, a federal entity being years into an upgrade that goes way over budget and over time and ultimately fails is also a way to enrich a handful of self interested corporations at the expense of government workers and consumers. And taxpayers. The methods aren't even that different.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
(I like how you used a google redirect to hide that you were linking to The Daily Caller)
That mid-2015 article cited as support for its boondoggle thesis a claim that ADS-B (what you really want instead of simple GPS) would not be operational before 2020 -- yet ADS-B went operational in late 2016.
TDC was just peddling right wing BS as part of the lobbying to let private companies scrape more profits out of monies the taxpayers have invested.
I don't doubt that the FAA has huge inefficiencies, but AFAIK their track record (safety-wise) is fairly good (though I don't have my ear to the ground on this so I could be totally wrong).
On the other hand, we all know how BA's recent handling of IT worked out. Perhaps an inappropriate comparison, of course...
1, Anyone who complains about an airline will get a beating, not just the few lucky ones that resist being thrown out of their paid seats. 2. Instead of wasting money investigating crashes, the money will be divided among the long-suffering airline CEOs on poker night.. 3. If your baggage is lost, airlines will give you a free double leg amputation, making it far more comfortable to fit in the new seats they are planning. 4. All TSA personnel hires will have microcephaly. As a result, terrorism is expected to decline, as so many people will die in air travel that no one will believe terrorists when they claim they had anything to do with it.
As exposed in This Film Is Not Yet Rated when an industry "regulates itself" with help of "major" players, they quickly adapt this vehicle to keep the lesser competitors out.
I suspect it's more like nibbling a tiny Cheeto.
IMO insanity is caring more about who poops in the stall next to you than human dignity.
Always costs more because it adds a layer of cost that businesses call profit. It's such a simple thing to understand, i have to wonder what is wrong with people that don't get it.... i mean, are they really that fucking stupid?
Fascism: An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. See also: NAZI's
You made the claim "Government tends to be horrible at everything". Keep in mind that when states a premise as a fact, they are "Begging the question."
Government is not horrible at everything. In fact it is quite good at a lot of things. Our mail is delivered every day, our police and fire departments respond every day, our military defends US interests every day, our taxes are collected every day, our currency is managed every day, and thousands of other less-visible governmental actions are performed well every day.
Government is really bad at some things; but, often those things are the kinds of things that private enterprise is equally bad at, if not worse. Government eventually desegregated the private Universities, despite plenty of action to thwart it. In my opinion, Government didn't do a great job in that department, rather they blundered their way through it. However, they did get the job done. Likewise, the Nixon impeachment proceedings were another slow plodding blunder with an eventual success. The cost overruns of NASA were enormous, but the goal of landing a man on the moon was reached. At the time, no private entity would have been able to achieve these goals.
I applaud your decision to consider things more deeply. I hope your consider how much you have already bought into the "evil Government" story line. This story line has managed to leverage the election of a person unqualified to be a politician (he's qualified to be a CEO of Trump Enterprises, but these are not equivalent positions).
US history has had automotive manufacturers release cars they know would explode in minor collisions because it was cheaper to incur the expenses of about 2,400 wrongful deaths than to pay the $11 per car to put a weld patch over the gas tank. That is what a business will do, maximize profits selfishly. Perhaps there are a few businesses which won't, but that doesn't impede the ones that do.
Only government can protect the rights of the people. Stop bashing it if you want your rights protected. Fix it if you think it is broken, but TRUST me on this, don't take anyone's word as fact that it is broken. Lying about broken government is often a cheap trick to get in office.
To prove my point, our current President lied about the broken "Obama plays too much golf" when in reality he's played more golf in the first five months than Obama has played in eight years.
That's your tax dollars at work people! His Secret Service has to guard the golf course. He has to buy out the whole course to do so. He is still getting paid while playing. I'd be pissed if someone earned my trust by pointing out a problem, and then used my votes to make the problem worse (even if it was something as non life-threatening as golf).
There is an old Dutch saying "Truth in small things is not a small thing." It has may ways of being interpreted, but I'll go with, "If one will lie about a small thing, then lying is not a big deal for that person." Trump lies about how much time a President should spend golfing, if Obama played too much golf, then Trump is playing way too much golf (except that Trump is obviously fine with his frequency of playing golf). That's about as small as it gets. Don't expect any truth from this man.
Oh yeah, because the question who shits where is the really big issue in the country. I'm so glad we have no bigger problems.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Seriously, are they literally retarded?
The airline industry is run by a complete and total asshats.
Non profit? Sure, the shell corporation ran by the industry it is designed to regulate may well be non profit. Of course, the rules that it makes or chooses to enforce will be designed to ensure maximum profit of those same companies.
I can see it now.
Step 1. Double or tipple book landing / take off slots since some times planes just don't show up.
Step 2. If somehow, all the planes show up and everyone wants to land, American airlines will shoot down the other/s plane at random.
Step 3. Profit?
Just make it the hens that cluck too loudly and try to warn about foxes guarding the hen house and you should do great.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
p.s. They should also make it a felony for airport personnel to steal items from passenger luggage.
Wait, what is it? A misdemeanor or ... where in the world is theft NOT a felony?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Quite the opposite! This would ensure that no flights would be grounded just because of some minor mishaps and all planes would arrive on time. At their destination or some house.
Do you have a faint idea how much profit was lost that day due to planes not flying?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
"Like". I think "like" is the crucial word here. As in making an analogy. And a nudge that perhaps one other area ought to change, namely security.
Ezekiel 23:20
They'd just say sod it and tell everybody to find their own way. Imagine all the extra staff to deal with something like that, it'd kill somebody's quarterly bonus.
Assuming their lawyers screwed up and the SLA is written so they're on the hook for any losses, just claim off the insurance. If that doesn't cover it declare bankruptcy and set up under a new name the day after.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Somebody is actually spending time feeling outraged about this 31 genders nonsense?
Some people spend most of their time being outraged about that sort of thing. I only know one personally. He's stupid.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
Do you boil everything down to the most petty semantics? How crushingly boring.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
Services provided by governments are usually (but not always) monopolies
You could say that government is the natural monopoly of natural monopolies. Services that are universal and especially services that are required to be universal (e.g. mail) head up this list, because letting someone profit from such a thing amounts to a private tax. Otherwise we start looking at whether there are market failures, like a high barrier to entry. Whether or not the government is good at what it does is actually a distinct issue.
Part of me wants to see the red states get exactly the government that they want, but maybe that's too vindictive.
So where's the teeth in that system?
That would be the concept of democracy. I believe it's defined as 'the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.'
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
Umm, door locks were the fix that prevented any other 9/11s from occurring. The security theater hasn't done a thing.
Yes it's an anecdote! Were you expecting original research in a Slashdot comment?
This is weird. You don't trust airlines to manage airspace, but you DO trust them with your life by letting them hurl you through the sky in a big metal brick. If you cannot trust them for the former, you are a fool to trust them for the latter.
Everything is an indicator of fascism, if you pick your indicators right. Also, fascists breathed. Beware.
That and the hijackers exploited a "rule" about hijacking that was true until 9-11. Up until then, if your flight was hijacked, you sat still and did nothing. The plane was re-routed to somewhere like Cuba, the hijacker put on a big show to get attention to whatever it was he wanted attention on, and then everyone was released. So long as you kept quiet, you were inconvenienced but otherwise unharmed.
The people on the first two planes that were hijacked on 9-11 kept quiet assuming that this was the rule. The third plane got wind of what was going on and fought back. Sure, they didn't survive, but they went down fighting and ensuring that the hijackers didn't reach target #3.
Any future hijacker won't be able to rely on people abiding by pre-911 hijacking rules. Even if the hijacker is the "fly to Cuba" type, people will assume this is another 9-11 and will fight back. We've seen it in the "shoe bomber" and other hijack attempts. Passengers and crew fight back and subdue the hijacker. This exploit that the 9-11 hijackers used is closed for good.
My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
Yup: I actually found it amusing that the (Italian) fascists wanted a corporate government and little freedom, while the corporations want to run a government that guarantees them a free market. The German Fascists, on the other hand, ran a traditional government with representatuion from regions, not lines of business.
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the question who shits where is the really big issue in the country.
Maybe not the country but based on other comments in other articles on Slashdot it sounds like it's a really big issue in San Francisco.
"Lack of speed can be overcome. In the worst case by patience." --Znork
So now Trump has started to sell, or at least he wants to, assets of the government. Doesn't this sound like a certain friend of his that sold the assets of another country to their rich elite in exchange for their loyalty? Of course the US doesn't have oil companies to sell but there are lots of other things that Trump can sell to the wealthy people of America. It won't help him stay President longer than 4 or 8 years but afterwards he could find himself on the boards of many companies owned by his new friends and earning generous compensation packages.
It's all about what Trump can grab and the US government is the worlds largest piggy bank. He's been breaking the law by using his position to influence people to use his businesses since he was elected. I wonder what else he's been doing to enhance his fortune.
It is worse than them being no more likely to catch terrorists. Penetration testing has found that TSA agents are 1/5th as effective at finding dangers than the old security screening.
Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon what's the difference? All steal money from devs and control with walled gardens.
Yes... go on. Tell me what percentage of government projects are that far over budget, or never completed.
Then compare and contrast with the number of big budget *corporate* projects that go way over budget, or are never completed.
Datum: I worked for Ameritech, one of the Baby Bells, in the mid-nineties, in a start-up division. We were going to be Ameritech's entry in the long distance service sweepstakes. And after two years, and three quarters of a BILLION DOLLARS, they gave up and shut it down.
Let's see your data.
until they try to pass legislation to enforce compliance with gender discrimination laws. or classify misgendering as a hate crime, as they're trying to do in canada.
You mean like go back to the TWENTIETH CENTURY MODEL where airports or airlines ran the security lines?
We are *NOT* talking about the TSA, we are talking about the FAA. Different.
In *principle* this could work, but more likly, Trump will hand it off to some corporation that sends a lobbiest with a large bag of cash to suck his cock.
I suppose the next thing that Trump will privatize is the ARMY
Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
Unless you see not wanting a man in the same bathroom as your 4 year old daughter a human dignity issue.
I can't even be in the same bathroom as my daughter to keep her safe (assuming she uses the gender appropriate bathroom) but some guy stating he identifies as a girl can.
If it wasn't a big issue, then why did Obama waste some much time on it?
Or do you mean, since it's an issue that you already one, it's not a big issue? If we go back to requiring people to use the bathroom of their biological gender, would you consider it an issue worth spending time on "fixing" again?
I've seen too many failed/overtime/overbudget projects in the private sector to think that privatizing will fix anything. I suspect a stable high level of funding would do the trick, instead of the erratic austerity that has been imposed in recent history.
Man, you really need that seminar!
If a trans woman goes into the ladies' room, she looks like a normal woman, does her business in a stall, and leaves. No big deal. If someone who looks like a man goes in, with the law the way you want it you can't challenge him, because he might be a trans man who's required by law to use the ladies' room. I'm not aware of significant abuse by trans women or men dressed as women.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Similarly, capitalists demand the output from their factories, and would say someone was taking away their something when the factory doesn't give them control over the products. Wealth is primarily produced, and we're dividing it up every day. Some people feel entitled to more than their share, because they've had more than their share before.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Unfortunate. I'd like airport security to be privatized like it used to be, with no new outrageous requirements any time someone does something stupid.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
As illegal as you consider searches to be, it doesn't by one iota infringe on your right of free travel. It doesn't stop you from getting on your stereotypical horse and riding across the horizon to wherever you want to go.
If you want the convenience of fast travel, then you also get the inconvenience of being searched. [SHRUG] I'm searching for the worlds tiniest violin, and a Spinal Tap amplifier turned to "-1", so I can properly appreciate the sad music.
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
We have that in common. I also worked for a baby bell, which will remain nameless because I still know people who worked for the company they became. They invested in this new thing called cellular, and did quite well.
I didn't say that companies never fail on their projects, (it must be nice to see things only in black and white?) just that in my perception, government projects are more likely to fail. Consider -- a few big time failures, or sometimes even one, can sink a company (and have). You have to be the size and have the inertia of a government to survive multiple large failures. (Point examples of "too big to fail" are the exceptions that prove the rule.) The other part of this is that companies are generally making decisions involving spending earned cash that presumably takes some effort to acquire. That same connection between the funds and the people making the decisions doesn't exist, or at least to the same degree, in government. Certainly you've heard the term "other people's money".
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
"too important to fail" is an aberration that should never have happened.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Are you saying the FAA is not managing the project? If not, why?? It's our tax money -- we're entitled to oversight.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
The airline industry has a ridiculously bad track record for deploying reliable software. The next thing we will wringing our hands over will be runway neutrality where monopolistic airlines will cause their competitors to circle the airport until they run out of fuel.
Greed is the root of all evil.