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Kaspersky Files Antitrust Complaint Against Microsoft Over Disabling Its Antivirus Software (bloomberg.com)

Russian security software maker Kaspersky Lab has filed antitrust complaints against Microsoft with the European Commission and the German federal cartel office, it said in a statement on Tuesday. From a report: Kaspersky sent a formal complaint to European Union and German antitrust regulators, saying "hurdles" created by Microsoft limit consumer choice and drive up the cost of security software. "With the release of Windows 10, Microsoft started to create obstacles to competing manufacturers of security solutions, and introduce different ways of pushing users to forgo third-party software in favor of its own Windows Defender," Moscow-based Kaspersky said in a statement. In a statement, Eugene Kaspersky said, "We see clearly -- and are ready to prove -- that Microsoft uses its dominant position in the computer operating system (OS) market to fiercely promote its own -- inferior -- security software (Windows Defender) at the expense of users' previously self-chosen security solution. Such promotion is conducted using questionable methods, and we want to bring these methods to the attention of the anti-competition authorities."

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  1. This didn't end well for Netscape. by Narcocide · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not expecting any different outcome in the long run.

  2. Oh, Microsoft by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh, Microsoft, is there anything you can't fuck up? Is there any line you won't cross in pursuit of profits and customer lock-in? Is there not a single engineer, programmer, or executive in your organization with an intact pair of balls who will pause, and think, "Wait, we shouldn't do this..."?

    No? Okay, just checking.

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  3. Say It Ain't So... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft has been an upstanding corporate citizen since settling the US antitrust case and increasing its lobbying budget from zero dollars to millions of dollars each year.

  4. Car analogy by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That company makes cars easily stolen because the lock is weak. Thus a number of 3rd party shops sell locks that improve the car security. Then the car maker decides to fix the locks and the 3rd party accessory is not necessary anymore - who is to blame? Seriously, these anti-viruses have always been Windows parasites that only flourished thanks to Microsoft unable to implement a decent security solution earlier.

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    1. Re:Car analogy by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not quite the right analogy. The car company does not fix the locks. They make their own accessory like the 3rd party accessories to fix the locks. Then they sell that accessory.

      Microsoft does not sell Windows Defender as a separate product, it comes with Windows at no cost.

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  5. Re:What is the problem? by DickBreath · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's amusing history at this point. It once was a serious problem. But after what happened a couple weeks ago, it obviously still is a very big problem.

    To its credit Microsoft, years ago, got very serious about security. And I applaud them for it.

    Google has also been very proactive with Android security.

    Linux. Well? Somewhat. Not as much as I'd like. But we generally don't see large scale problems in the wild. Of course, one day we will.

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  6. Kaspersky sucks by eril · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Microsoft sucks, too...and they're deserving of the hate they get, but Kaspersky may suck worse. I lost all respect for them as an "antivirus" application when one of my clients couldn't use Git because of it. Kaspersky identified Git (using SourceTree as a client) as malware, and kind of fucked up her file system, requiring her to do a system restore. After that, the client pretty much refused to use SourceTree, because she was convinced that it was a virus. Fuck Kaspersky...go Microsoft.

  7. The fact their server is in Russia is why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seriously, I work in the IT industry, many of us ban all traffic from Russia and several Asian states by default. This means that Kapersky has the unfortunate side effect even though being cheaper unable to automatically update because it's on russian soil thus for us IT folks we've started to Migrate to other software that does auto update without fail and has local servers. If Kapersky would setup sub update servers on each state and tie their software to the country, with the correct DNS ties in the software the update process wouldn't be that difficult to maintain.

    1. Re:The fact their server is in Russia is why by rahvin112 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They don't do this because Kapersky is one of the ways Russian GRU intelligence is using to exploit and spy on everyone. I have not doubt in my mind it's backdoored to high hell because one of the lead founders was recently arrested for spying and it was noted he was a ranking member of the Russian Intelligence services. This would be like Norton being owned by the NSA. Given that I don't know how anyone can trust Kapersky not to be littered with backdoors and Russian intelligence extra's.

      Just an an FYI, Kapersky anti-virus is banned from use on US government computers for this reason just as several Chinese made switches are banned because the company executives are high ranking PRC Army intelligence.

      You might not like Microsoft but their executives aren't ranking spies in the NSA or other spy agencies.

  8. How inferior can it be by orient · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... given that Windows Defender is a re-branding of Reliable AntiVirus, whose architect (Costin Raiu) Kaspersky hired from GeCAD before GeCAD sold RAV to Microsoft?

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  9. Re:What is the problem? by desdinova+216 · · Score: 3, Funny

    it will happen right after the real year of the Linux desktop happens.

  10. Re:What is the problem? by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Linux. Well? Somewhat. Not as much as I'd like. But we generally don't see large scale problems in the wild. Of course, one day we will.

    The only problems we've seen with Linux have been with server installations, usually targeting software that's only installed on internet-facing servers. We haven't seen anything at all that targets desktop Linux. And it's false to claim that "one day we will"; maybe we will, maybe we won't. With desktop Linux marketshare so low, and little sign of that improving any time soon (despite the absolute horrors of Windows 10), there's not much incentive for malware writers to target it. Of course, there's other factors: Linux has a better security model from the outset, plus it has generally more savvy users who are too smart to install some stupid toolbar, and on top of that it doesn't have Outlook which seems to have been one of the major attack vectors in Windows for a while now. So with all that in mind, it's quite likely we'll never see large-scale problems in the wild with desktop Linux.