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Airbnb Announces Its Plan To House 100,000 People In Need (backchannel.com)

New submitter mirandakatz writes: Airbnb has just unveiled its Open Homes Platform, a home-sharing site for hosts motivated by goodwill instead of profits -- and for guests motivated by need rather than wanderlust. Specifically, Airbnb is going to begin by connecting refugees with hosts in Canada, France, Greece, and the United States. Ultimately, refugees will be just one group that the site aims to help: Site visitors can also nominate other groups of people for temporary placements, and the platform will expand to include them eventually. At Backchannel, Jessi Hempel dives into the home-sharing platform's latest effort, and places it in the context of the company's broader business strategy.

139 comments

  1. temporary by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    until it's not

    1. Re: temporary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Next in news : mass murders in host homes. Airbnb hosts that have children where the children were repeatedly raped. Airbnb hosts watched and clapped as their wives and children were gang raped by guest families, sodimized and skulll fucked, like the retards they are.

  2. I dunno by fluffernutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At first I thought this was a gracious gesture by a corporation, until I realized that AirBnB isn't really offering anything at all. How many properties will they be offering on their own? How many people have an extra property to volunteer to someone who may not even feel the need to use a bathroom?

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    1. Re:I dunno by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Airbnb is flailing about for some PR wins. Turns out people are selective about who they want using their property and suits have been filed recently claiming racial bias.

      One wonders if millennials and their progeny are learning anything as the "sharing economy" dissolves before their eyes. Uber has become a villian. Airbnb's race problems are going to strangle that out of existence. Pretty soon we'll be left in the same world mommy and daddy lived in plus smartphones.

    2. Re:I dunno by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      The problem with the gig economy is that they are attempting to make profits from doing an end-run around regulation. If they fail, it will be because they are suffering from the very problems those regulations were meant to protect them from.

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    3. Re: I dunno by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your ignorance and bigotry is a clear example of your lack of education and hence why you find yourself struggling for even a restroom and food.

    4. Re:I dunno by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was generous with one of my properties. That will never happen again - I'll only ever allow people in my properties that have something to lose. Those that have nothing to lose have no incentive to exercise good stewardship and take care of the housing. Not only did the residents gratuitously abuse the property (much worse than negligence), but also they tried to tell the judge during eviction that I had fraudulently obtained the property from them and that it rightfully belonged to them.

      Never again.

    5. Re: I dunno by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't feel high and mighty, I am just not a snivelling ignorant coward like yourself. Besides should there ever some real uprising they will be plenty busy with cowards like your while the rest of us can make peace.

    6. Re: I dunno by Reverend+Green · · Score: 2

      Alternatively, his bigotry may result from his experience of dispossession. Being driven into destitution while foreign "guest workers" are imported to take one's former job is surely a traumatic experience.

      Some who live through that experience may curl up in a ball and wait to die. That's what the baizou elite like to see. Others who have been disposessed, like the GP, may turn in anger to bigotry and counter productive hatred of their fellow workers.

      Yet others may remember that all men are brothers, regardless of color or culture. They may come to recognize that all workers are exploited by the money power, the system of database-driven exploitation, that our fathers called capitalism and we call financialism. They may even begin to think about serious alternatives to that system. May try to imagine a new form of communism that throws off the chains of capital, while avoiding the well-documented shortcomings of Soviet-style authoritarian socialism.

    7. Re: I dunno by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #runningdog

    8. Re: I dunno by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet others may remember that all men are brothers, regardless of color or culture...

      I would counter that this only holds true so long as the "brothers" share a common system of ideals and values.

      For a period of time, everyone in the United States generally attended church on Sunday, without fail, and generally believed in the same principles and values no matter what flavor of religion they chose.

      When you take that away, you no longer have much common ground or understanding, save for being of the same species. And when one party wants to either commit genocide or turn the other side into slaves, the idea of everyone being "brothers" of some kind, just dies off

    9. Re: I dunno by swillden · · Score: 1

      A lot of people I know, soon including myself, will code in C++ for food and a restroom. That's the reality of stupid america.

      Well, there's your problem: C++. You need to get with the times. Learn Rust.

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    10. Re: I dunno by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      So the Germans inventing solutions around this problem and the signs they put up are just part of our collective imagination then? I personally know people that have seen this nonsense for themselves.

      If this were Hillbillies, you would have no trouble believing it or spreading it yourself.

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    11. Re:I dunno by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      I would put this in the same category as Section 8 housing. Not everyone wants to be a slum lord and deal with that kind of crap. Once you actually own something and have skin in the game, you tend to change your tune.

      Repairs cost real money as do just the normal operating expenses.

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      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
    12. Re: I dunno by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or simply stop importing workers. Problem solved. No crazy society changes. Fucking retards.

    13. Re:I dunno by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked for a trucking company that had a very difficult time keeping the company owned CB radios in working order. Somehow mics were cracked and buttons broken off. After a while the company required drivers to provide their own radios. As if by magic all the reliability problems with the radios went away.

    14. Re:I dunno by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      At first I thought this was a gracious gesture by a corporation, until I realized that AirBnB isn't really offering anything at all. How many properties will they be offering on their own? How many people have an extra property to volunteer to someone who may not even feel the need to use a bathroom?

      Air B&B do not own properties. They are a listing agency that accepts reservations, vets the tenant(s), and rates the property lessor. Individuals who have spare apartments or rooms or suites that are available during parts of the year or months deal with AB&B to rent out furnished premises. Thnk about Olympics, and other tourist cities.

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  3. Not going to happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You want junkies and welfare people living in your house? I didn't think so.

  4. refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with Air by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with AirBnB pointing to there EULA sticking be with the legal bill.

  5. For those who forgot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    June 7th the day that will live infamously.

    1. Re:For those who forgot by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Since a fair lot happened on this day, from segregation being sanctioned by a court decision to the Swedish-Norwegian union ending to making contraceptives illegal becoming illegal to The Artist formerly known as Prince being born, you might want to inform us just what world-changing event made his day infamous.

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  6. Perfect for Leftards! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To not live up to what they preach.

  7. Re:refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really! Airbnb should buy their ticket back home. I know the democrat pansies won't admit it, but these 'refugees' are nothing but trouble. I wonder who really benefited by letting these people in.

  8. AirBnB presents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Host your own terrorist program

    1. Re:AirBnB presents... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Can I put cameras in, house Sunni and Shia Muslims next to each other and sell it on pay-per-view?

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  9. Refugees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    We have unemployed, homeless people right here that need housing...

    1. Re: Refugees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it is definitely not for them. This is disgusting on so many levels. Here we have people who got sick, lost their jobs and live in cars when they're very lucky, otherwise on the streets like I see one lady spent the night in a wheelchair on the streets..

      And "airbnb" is looking for a thousands of retarded liberal cucks willing to house muslims, who want to come here and force their medieval filth on us while getting everything for free.

      FuÑk that!

    2. Re:Refugees? by stephanruby · · Score: 2

      When there is an earthquake or a hurricane, everybody wants to help the people who've been made temporarily homeless by the disaster.

      But if we're talking about chronically homeless people, people with mental problems, health problems, criminal convictions, and/or substance abuse problems. People are much less willing to put them up in their guest rooms. It shouldn't be that way, but it is.

      And even among refugees, charities do not treat them all the same. The families and the highly educated usually get preferential treatment. After all, which would you rather have living in your extra guest room? A former doctor? Or a former taxi driver?

      Ultimately, this 100,000 figure for so many countries is just a drop in the bucket. That's just less than 2 per thousand if we assume a transitory refugee population of 60+ million worldwide.

    3. Re:Refugees? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      We have unemployed, homeless people right here that need housing...

      We don't feel sorry for them because they were displaced by corporate greed or medical conditions, not global conflicts. /s

    4. Re: Refugees? by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      A large & visible homeless population is a powerful argument to wage slaves they they should keep on slavin' away.

    5. Re: Refugees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is one big point. When deporting their jobs isn't enough importing your competition is the next step .

    6. Re:Refugees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nationalism is racism, there are no borders, Trump is Putin, etc.

      Do you think Airbnb is offering hymen insurance for when some Muslim from Durkadurkistan has a sexual emergency and takes a homeowner's daughter into his bed like Muhammad took Aisha?

    7. Re:Refugees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the big things I've learned through the latest migrant waves is that the left has a deep seated hatred of anything local. Homeless and unemployed citizens are to blame for their own misfortunes. They deserve it. That's a sentiment I've heard way too often lately.

    8. Re:Refugees? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hmm... I have a doctor, but a personal chauffeur would be nifty.

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    9. Re: Refugees? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hey, Trump said that he's going to rip corporations a new one if they keep sending jobs away, so what were they supposed to do?

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    10. Re: Refugees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1, this comment is right on.

    11. Re:Refugees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But if we're talking about chronically homeless people, people with mental problems, health problems, criminal convictions, and/or substance abuse problems. People are much less willing to put them up in their guest rooms. It shouldn't be that way, but it is.

      Why shouldn't it be that way? Not all lives are of equal value.

    12. Re:Refugees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, helping them isn't as trendy and doesn't offer as many virtue-signaling points as saying "Refugees Welcome".

    13. Re:Refugees? by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

      We have unemployed, homeless people right here that need housing...

      Homelessness isn't the problem, it's a symptom. Usually "mental illness" is the actual problem, and that's the reason you can't just give a homeless person a house and make everything right again. That's also the reason they typically don't get a job.

      There are a few - very few - homeless people who don't have mental issues and just need a job. I knew a guy like that when I was younger. But that's a drop in the bucket.

      We'll always have the homeless.

    14. Re:Refugees? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Not everyone wants to put up with that kind of crap. What's a schizoid going to do with one of your rental properties? The same goes for junkies? You are liable to get your property confiscated or condemned.

      It's even worse if it's your personal dwelling.

      Do you have a junkie sleeping on your couch? Probably not.

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    15. Re:Refugees? by OhPlz · · Score: 1

      A greater number of the homeless are people who don't want to go to a shelter or use transitional housing because they don't allow drinking or drugging in those places.

    16. Re:Refugees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are absolutely right. I wrote one of my college papers on homelessness. At first I thought it was largely people with mental illness or handicap. There is the theory that the closing of asylums sent a bunch of people out into the street. Most of those actually ended up in jail. Homeless people statistically are most likely to be straight, white, male and on the streets due to their own behaviors. A small amount want to be there because they don't want to pay bills or work. The majority are on drugs or alcoholics and any funds that come their way go straight to getting messed up.

    17. Re:Refugees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reread the comment; that AC agrees with you.

    18. Re:Refugees? by robot5x · · Score: 1

      Homelessness isn't the problem, it's a symptom. Usually "mental illness" is the actual problem, and that's the reason you can't just give a homeless person a house and make everything right again. That's also the reason they typically don't get a job.

      Wrong. Wow do you know anything about this outside of the one guy you knew once? There's a really good evidence-base to suggest that simply having stable housing is the critical factor in someone managing their mental health issues. In your analysis, people can't hold jobs or tenancies until their 'mental illness' is dealt with appropriately. What do you propose, then? Asylums? Nice.

      Here's a guy who actually knows something on the topic. Give it a whirl.

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  10. Think Muslims are bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait until your refugee guest suite is occupied by gypsies... as soon as you turn your back they'll steal everything you've got. Only thing worse would be fucking Muslim gypsies.

    1. Re:Think Muslims are bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd rather have my stuff taken than my life.

    2. Re: Think Muslims are bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Muslim gypsies steal all your stuff, fuck your goats and _then_ kill you and your neigbours.

    3. Re: Think Muslims are bad? by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      They can keep their hands off my goats.

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    4. Re: Think Muslims are bad? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hah! Joke's on them, my goats love getting fucked!

      Erh... or so I ... imagine...

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  11. Mirandakatz is not "new"! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mirandakatz has done nothing but spam Backchannel "articles" since that account was created, and a couple of them have lurched their way to the front page before. Post their clickbait if you must, editors, but don't be dishonest about their submitter. (Or maybe you were duped...I can see that too.)

  12. Thanks Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Verizon is doing its part to fill 1000 of those slots.

  13. Comments not very Christian by mykepredko · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I RFTA and thought that this was a nice program allowing people to pay it forwards and then I read the comments.

    Wow. Not much love or sympathy in this group.

    1. Re: Comments not very Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put Americans first. Not refugees.

    2. Re:Comments not very Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good, I'd hate to get mistaken as a Christian

    3. Re:Comments not very Christian by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Comments not very Christian

      Christian? ACs barely even pass for human.

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    4. Re:Comments not very Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I RFTA and thought that this was a nice program allowing people to pay it forwards and then I read the comments.

      Wow. Not much love or sympathy in this group.

      Surprised how you didn't say the comments were not very Islamic? Why go to the default Christian label?

    5. Re: Comments not very Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't want your refugee house guests beheading you now would we?

    6. Re:Comments not very Christian by gravewax · · Score: 1

      I am not an AC, I fucking hope I don't pass for Christian. I consider myself educated, sane and not in need of mythical beings to hover over me to act human.

    7. Re: Comments not very Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christians tend to put a name on it when it is them, like cleansing/crusades/asserting Christian values or whatever the fuck their current deranged thinking is. regardless it is just as toxic as the muslim shit, same shit different name.

    8. Re: Comments not very Christian by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Yet I would not be surprised if you believe in all the (impossible to prove or disprove by repeatable controlled experiment) tall tales and cosmological mythology preached under the banner of "science".

      Few and rare indeed are those who can live without some or another form of faith.

    9. Re: Comments not very Christian by gravewax · · Score: 1

      No unlike you I don't believe/have faith in anything that can't be proven/disproven by science. Faith is a crutch for the weak minded.

    10. Re: Comments not very Christian by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Perhaps. Or perhaps you just don't recognize your own faith.

    11. Re: Comments not very Christian by gravewax · · Score: 2

      perhaps . Or perhaps you are just reaching to justify your mythology.

    12. Re: Comments not very Christian by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Not over the stupid argument who has the cooler imaginary friend, at least.

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    13. Re: Comments not very Christian by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I'm intrigued. What are you talking about? Science is actually all about repeatable documentation, so if you can actually show something to be false with repeatable experiments, we might be looking at a sensation.

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    14. Re:Comments not very Christian by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Bigger audience? It's likely that more people who grew up in or even with a Christian background are reading here.

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    15. Re:Comments not very Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many Christians do you expect to find on a tech website?

      And do you think 'love and sympathy' are exclusive to Christians?

    16. Re:Comments not very Christian by butchersong · · Score: 1

      Wow. Not much love or sympathy in this group.

      I remember reading about turning the other cheek but I don't recall anything about handing your wife or daughters over to be raped. Then again, I'm not super familiar with the bible.

    17. Re:Comments not very Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe because you live in a delusional, brain washed fantasy world. These people are savages and they want to take over our country. They will never assimilate and they're cause a lot of problems. The Open door policy and no borders thing is a mistake. The media hides this fact from you.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    18. Re:Comments not very Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If someone has a spare room or property that they can let someone in need stay in, then that's great, and I think it's good that AirBnB are trying to make that easier.

      Of course if we had a sane tax system, we wouldn't have to be relying on the kindness of strangers to provide basic human necessities for those in need.

    19. Re:Comments not very Christian by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Islam has been at war with Xianity for most of it's history.

      That makes these refugees more like Roman Soldiers than Samaritans.

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    20. Re: Comments not very Christian by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Some things are inherently difficult to verify. Some of those get dressed up as "science". We are expected to accept those with as much blind faith as an evangelical.

      If you think something needs "disproven", you fundementally misunderstand science.

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    21. Re: Comments not very Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference with Christianity (and I am not being an apologist) is their ideology has changed slightly (and evolves) over the years, while Islam has not and will not.

    22. Re:Comments not very Christian by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 1

      I remember reading about turning the other cheek but I don't recall anything about handing your wife or daughters over to be raped. Then again, I'm not super familiar with the bible.

      I'm not sure whether you were being sarcastic, but if not you might want to read up on the story of Lot, who is said to have done exactly that—offered up his daughters to be raped by a mob in place of his guests. There is no mention of him being condemned for it either; if anything this show of "hospitality" toward his guests was part of the reason why he was deemed "righteous" and saved while the rest of the town, and all who lived there, were destroyed. Apparently no one asked the daughters for their opinion of this act of "hospitality".

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    23. Re: Comments not very Christian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Susan: “All right," said Susan. "I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need... fantasies to make life bearable."

      Death: REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE.

      Susan: "Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little—"

      Death: YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.

      Susan: "So we can believe the big ones?"

      Death: YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.

      Susan: "They're not the same at all!"

      Death: YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET —

      Death waved a hand.

      AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.

      Susan: "Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point—"

      Death: MY POINT EXACTLY.



      You might dislike Pterry's choice of subjects, but do you still think you have no faith?

    24. Re: Comments not very Christian by gravewax · · Score: 1

      I love Terry's work (RIP). but he is no philosopher and I see nothing there that changes my view. I don't "believe" in justice, mercy, duty etc, they are just concepts created to create order in society. You don't need to believe in those things to be a decent human being, self preservation, the expectation that how you treat others is a good indicator of how you yourself will be treated and the emotional need for companionship are the realities.

    25. Re: Comments not very Christian by gravewax · · Score: 1

      please provide examples, everything in science that is not proven is not labelled as fact or expected to be taken on faith. They are labelled theories and are expected to be challenged. If you have examples where this is not occurring then they should be called out.

    26. Re: Comments not very Christian by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Yes, some things are hard to verify. Or falsify, more correctly. But in the end, what we "dress up" as science is in such a case simply the most likely scenario. You are not expected to accept them with faith, you are expected to come up with an equally likely alternative scenario and weigh them against each other.

      In the end, usually the one that requires the least (note: least, not fewest) assumptions is the one that gets picked. For good reason. When you hear hooves, expect horses, not zebras.

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  14. I Nominate The Homeless by EzInKy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Far too many people can be found wandering around cities at night without places to go, and that leaves them at the mercy of dope dealers and others who are looking to profit from their misery.

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    1. Re:I Nominate The Homeless by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

      They aren't wandering aimlessly. They are looking for dope dealers.

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    2. Re:I Nominate The Homeless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      many of the homeless are far greater risk to your property than refugee's. Sure many of the homeless have simply had a few brad breaks or been unlucky. But a whole fuck load of them a lazy, greedy selfish arseholes that if you hand them anything they will simply use it as an opportunity to take more.

    3. Re:I Nominate The Homeless by EzInKy · · Score: 1

      Most of those I've met are happy if you offer them a blanket and/or a meal. Dope is expensive.

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    4. Re:I Nominate The Homeless by EzInKy · · Score: 1

      many of the RICH are far greater risk to your property than refugee's. Sure many of the RICH have simply had a few good breaks or been LUCKY. But a whole fuck load of them a lazy, greedy selfish arseholes that if you hand them anything they will simply use it as an opportunity to take more.

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    5. Re:I Nominate The Homeless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Have you tried offering dope?

    6. Re:I Nominate The Homeless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People are people. Rich people can be douche nozzles and so can poor people. I've learned through sad experience that nobody takes care of your stuff as well as you'd like them to, if they're not financially liable for it. This includes family.

    7. Re:I Nominate The Homeless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But a whole fuck load of them a lazy, greedy selfish arseholes that if you hand them anything they will simply use it as an opportunity to take more.

      Well yea. They're economic migrants. They come here solely out of greed and for handouts.

    8. Re:I Nominate The Homeless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are they?

      In Germany banks got around 6 billion € during the financial crisis which they AFAIK paid back.

      Migrants are costing us 100+ billion € and they're mostly going to end up longterm welfare cases.

      We've had several tax increases to prop up our overburdened social system in response to the huge number of refugees that get dropped on municipalities. Not to mention the increase in property and violent crimes.

    9. Re:I Nominate The Homeless by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      I don't have to worry about the rich. They're not the ones that want to use my property as a flop. They have their own Mc/Mansions to trash.

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    10. Re:I Nominate The Homeless by PPH · · Score: 1

      Dope is expensive.

      They don't want to dig into their dope budget for those little luxuries.

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    11. Re:I Nominate The Homeless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a good soundbite, but that's all it is. I guess that is the difference between an art major who manipulates people with words and normal people.

      See, in my neighborhood, the homeless piss on every nook and cranny, and indeed they piss in the very nook they sleep in. They also stink to high heaven. This in turn, makes people not want to live there and depresses the property prices.

      On the other hand, the "RICH" moving in my neighborhood increase property values.

  15. who will they find to take that risk? by gravewax · · Score: 1

    there are many people that are in desperate need of help, the problem is identifying the legitimate ones. I would actually trust refugees more than most of the local homeless but even then after seeing what happened to friends I would not want to try the lottery even on refugees. friends helped out a family living in a car by providing them rent at a way way below market rates so they could have a roof over their heads. 6 weeks later the house looked like a garbage dump inside and out and it took another 3 months to finally evict them, all up they estimate their good will cost them in excess of $50k, they won't make that mistake again.

  16. I've been getting screwed over by mega-corps by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    for my entire adult life, so you're forgive me if I'm just a wee bit too cynical not to question the motives of a company at the forefront of the gig economy (who's business model contributes to me being unable to afford to buy a home).

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    1. Re:I've been getting screwed over by mega-corps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What?!

      You literally post lies, almost daily, to smear Trump. Trump who has been president for a few months, and it literally trying to fix things for middle class Americans more than ANY OTHER PERSON IN DC, often to the determent of other countries.
      And then you complain you haven't been able to afford a house in your adult life. Who do you think has been running things for nearly the last decade? And not only do you give them a blank check pass at every time they screwed over the middle class, you go out of your way to smear the ONE GUY trying to help you out in DC?

      What is wrong with you? Were you hoping the TPP was going to solve all your problems, or was the lack of more H1B visas was the only thing holding you back?
      I think you really need to think things over.

  17. I didn't even know ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... there was a town called Need.

    I'm willing to help. I'll buy a homeless person a bus ticket there.

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  18. Vet them! by Chewbacon · · Score: 1

    "Are you a terrorist?"
    "Yes! Awe, you caught me!!!"
    "Get outta here, you joker."
    "Allahu ackbar!"
    "Yeah, yeah..."

    Sounds nuts? Not as nutty as this fantasy land bullshit. There is a fucking reason we have borders. Because not everyone likes the same thing as everyone else. Isn't that what made it so appealing to all these celebs that said they'd pack up and move if Trump got elected in the first place? Wait, did any of them leave? Fuck no they didn't. Fantasy land bullshitters.

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    1. Re:Vet them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      last time I visited America, I was greeted by a large mob of unemployables screaming no nations, no borders.

    2. Re:Vet them! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I was greeted by a large mob of unemployables that yelled at me to take off my shoes, ripped my bag out of my hands and went through it. Apparently they found nothing they liked 'cause I even got all of my stuff back, but I have seen people who weren't so lucky.

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    3. Re:Vet them! by butchersong · · Score: 1

      Never travel through Philadelphia airport when coming from an international flight.

  19. Next part by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    What's the next part of the business plan? As long as you house them and feed them you can make them work 21 hour days for you?

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    1. Re:Next part by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      What's the next part of the business plan? As long as you house them and feed them you can make them work 21 hour days for you?

      That wont work out. Uber generally expects employees to provide their own vehicles.

    2. Re:Next part by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Re Business plan?
      More refugees get allowed in, the more gov funding flows.

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    3. Re:Next part by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      So we now get to buy them cars, too?

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    4. Re:Next part by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Government funding to do what? Link to someone else's house that they did the work to put there?

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  20. Re:refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by stephanruby · · Score: 1

    Then pick from the Shia Muslims, the Christians, the Jews, or the gays, that are fleeing those countries to escape persecution. No one is forcing you to accept Sunni Muslims.

  21. Liberalism solves itself in the end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As always.

    ALLAHU ACKBAR!
    *cuts owner's head off*

  22. An exemplary comment thread by quax · · Score: 1

    That illustrates to the none-American readers how Trump happened.

    1. Re: An exemplary comment thread by Reverend+Green · · Score: 2

      You mean arrogant elitism, looking down your nose at your countrymen who were driven to destitution by the very system responsible for your own prosperity, and patronizing fetishization of "exotic" foreign cultures and peoples? Yeah, that attitude among the bourgeoisie does tend to enrage the plebs.

    2. Re: An exemplary comment thread by mario6915 · · Score: 0

      Can't believe you have a score of 1 for your comment... Fuck /. moderators... This is one of the best comments I've read on here in years.

    3. Re:An exemplary comment thread by OhPlz · · Score: 1

      Yes, we don't want barbarian invaders destroying our communities. Shocking. If you want to live with endless terror attacks, head over to London or Paris.

    4. Re: An exemplary comment thread by quax · · Score: 1

      Totally makes sense then to vote for a billionaire, at least with him you can be totally sure about his attitude towards the plebs. No surprises.

      Pretty much the entire Trump presidency so far goes as was to be expected.

      I guess if you feel you're in the shitter voting for a shit show has a certain perverse logic to it. Won't help you, but at least you get to piss off a lot of people.

      Since I get to observe this form a distance I must admit it is entertaining. Trump always amused me.

  23. Its about math.. and country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many of the BNB employees (any paid member) are all-in on this? How many of you that think this is a good idea are ready to open your own homes and doors? Why is this about "refugees".. much of which are unwilling to meld to our country's traditions. I'll agree with many posts here.. the last 3 years of resettled refugees were all about gaining a foothold for home-grown radicalized terrorists. If you doubt this then you've obviously not watched the news for what has been happing in the UK. Here is an idea. how about AirBNB reaches out to the homeless U.S. military veterans first... followed by other already fully documented citizens that don't have a home. Only when every other available room has been fully filled.. should we think about opening our doors to people who aren't already in our country.

    Peace.

  24. Re: refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Euro govts already force them to. Seizing homes to do so and arresting anyone who dares speak out against snackbars snackbarring. This is like saying "let's make a site where we can help you host war criminals and escaped convicts with murderous pasts. Let them sleep on your sofa until they behead your children for wearing skimpy clothes to the beach

  25. Wow, super idea!!! by bradley13 · · Score: 1

    I'm very serious: what a great idea!

    I'm so tired of the progressive crowd saying "let's you take in a few million refugees", but somehow never in their neighborhoods. So this is the chance for the progressives to put their guest rooms where their mouths are.

    I hope that this is done fairly, i.e., Airbnb doesn't just front for housing that was already designated for refugees. If so, then we will see just how many liberals really practice what they preach.

    I predict that the offers of rooms will be very sparse, but I am willing to be proven wrong.

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    1. Re:Wow, super idea!!! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      The problem is that both ends of the political spectrum are full-bore for the influx of foreigners. The bleeding heart lefties because of the poor, poor war victims, the cold blooded right wingers for the cheap, expendable labor and the increased pressure on the wages they represent.

      We're fucked.

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  26. Re:refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by war4peace · · Score: 1

    How exactly are you going to tell them apart except for trusting they are who/what they say they are?
    Also telling them apart and filtering based on religion beliefs is grounds for discrimination and a nice lawsuit thrown your way. Either way, you lose.

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  27. Why 4 countries... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not all of them?

  28. No thanks by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    I don't want Jihadi's in my house. They will not be grateful, and may kill you.

  29. Re:refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    You want us to pay for the door the SWAT broke down and the bullet holes in the wall? Think again. And before you do, be grateful that we're so gracious as to not charge you with housing terror suspects!

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  30. Re:refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Umm... how do you identify a gay, Jewish Christian Shia Muslim? People rarely have that stamped to their forehead. And ... well, you might be new to this world, and this might be hard to swallow, but people lie to get what they want.

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  31. Re: refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Really? Wow, where does this happen? I mean, outside your mind (where you obviously also are).

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  32. Re:refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by butchersong · · Score: 1

    Good luck with that. Assyrian Christians and Yezidis are basically victims of genocide at this point but Trudeau and the liberal party in Canada have taken the opposite approach from the previous administration and reversed course on accepting them.

  33. Re:refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by butchersong · · Score: 1

    Apologies for replying to my own thread but I do have to acknowledge that that US position on this to this point (not sure in 2017) has actually been worse. Ban on non-Muslims: http://www.newsweek.com/us-bar...

  34. Please do not feed the birds. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It creates a dependent population which is a potential health hazard and makes a costly mess.

  35. Re: refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Dutch politician Geert Wilders was put on trial for "criminally insulting Muslims", among other ridiculous things.

  36. Re: refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really? Wow, where does this happen? I mean, outside your mind (where you obviously also are).

    In Germany and Sweden, that's where, sport:

    "German nurse shocked after being forced out of flat to make way for refugees"

    https://www.rt.com/news/316568-germany-nurse-eviction-refugees/

    "Second German woman evicted from her home to make way for refugees"

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11902296/Second-German-woman-evicted-from-her-home-to-make-way-for-refugees.html

    "Familjen tvingas att lämna sitt hem"

    https://mitti.se/nyheter/familjen-tvingas-att-lamna-sitt-hem/

  37. Anyone elses house but mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sucks.. but at the end of the day last thing you need is local laws kicking in and you are unable to remove the people from the property. I say great idea... as long as it's not my house and not my family at financial risk.

  38. how will AirBNB pay for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will they pay for it by laying off people? Or outsourcing jobs to Elbonia?

    Or will they just force people to do it for free or else they lose their privilege to be on AirBNB?

    I'd say all of the above.

    captcha: vomited
    How appropriate.

  39. good initiative... for all the unexpected reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as a large scale ex-landlord i can tell you this is going to go swell. on a positive side it will teach liberals (as mostly unsuspecting liberals will offer their pads) that most of the immigrants are lying, uneducated, primitive folks that always cause more trouble than they are worth. always.
     

  40. Re:refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by jedidiah · · Score: 1

    Haven't you heard? Focusing on the Syrians that would actually qualify for genuine political refugee status is a violation of the Establishment clause.

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  41. So.. a database of refugees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they are creating a database of refugees.

    That may be open to all kinds of abuse.

  42. Re: refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by stdarg · · Score: 1
  43. Re:refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are any number of things that you might ask for to prove Christian origins. In the Anglophone world, for example, an old family Bible. Pictures of you in your Easter clothes. Documentation of baptism. A wedding invitation where the venue is listed as a Christian church, with a marriage license signed by a Christian minister. A recitation of the Lord's Prayer or Psalm 23. All can be faked, but it's not trivial to do so.

  44. How generous... by ShamblerBishop · · Score: 1

    Now all the people AirBnB have indirectly made homeless through local rents being jacked up, by AirBnB making it easy to illegally convert rentals into short-term-lets, will be able to rely on the charity of the greedy people who have exploited this opportunity in the first place. Great plan, guys - nothing cynical in this PR move at all.

  45. Re: refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    And he was sentenced to housing Muslims in his home and let them behead his children? Now that's what I call cruel and unusual punishment!

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  46. Re: refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Ah, those. Yes, if you're renting from the city and they find it more useful to give the flat to someone else, you get evicted. The solution is to rent from a private owner. Yes, this is a bit more expensive and you might have a hard time financing a 1000 sqft flat in the middle of the town as a single tenant on retirement money, but at least they can't simply kick you out as they please.

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  47. Re: refugees so I can be an accessory to ISIS with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've moved the goal posts when presented with information that you didn't think existed; how surprising. According to your "logic", it's ok to displace citizens because it's more "useful" to give their places to "refugees".

    Here's an example of someone's private property being invaded:

    "Police Force 80-Year-Old Italian Hotel Owner to House African Migrants"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymK5R9PeAeo