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Lowe's To Lay Off About 125 Workers, Move Jobs To India (go.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Home improvement retailer Lowe's says it's laying off approximately 125 information technology workers, the third round of job cuts this year. Chief Information Officer Paul Ramsay said in a memo that the affected workers were notified Wednesday. He said the Mooresville, North Carolina-based company has spent the last several years planning a strategic IT workforce team to respond better in what he called "this highly competitive 24/7 retail environment." Some of the jobs will be relocated to Bangalore, India.

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  1. Making American Great Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Good job, Donald.

    1. Re:Making American Great Again by fluffernutter · · Score: 5, Funny

      Trump hasn't "made his move" yet, obviously. I'm sure he'll be all over this. He cares about American jobs after all.

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    2. Re:Making American Great Again by FilmedInNoir · · Score: 4, Funny

      "All laid off IT workers will be given lifetime employment in my coal mines." - King Donald

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    3. Re:Making American Great Again by GLMDesigns · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hmm. Sarcasm. But when Obama said "nothing can be done" you were cool about it. So, if Trump comes out against this - will you give him credit?

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    4. Re:Making American Great Again by fluffernutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Obama didn't get elected based on a platform of bringing jobs back to America.

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    5. Re:Making American Great Again by hawguy · · Score: 4, Funny

      "All laid off IT workers will be given lifetime employment in my coal mines." - King Donald

      Fortunately, it'll be a short lifetime - a win-win.

    6. Re:Making American Great Again by fluffernutter · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well maybe Trump should have used the 'hope' part because that seems to be what everyone is doing. He certainly isn't changing anything. "Hope and Change" is refreshingly honest. Hope that things can be changed for the batter, and try to change them. Which he did.

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    7. Re:Making American Great Again by sabri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm sure he'll be all over this. He cares about American jobs after all.

      If he does, he'll instruct USCIS to pay better attention to H1-B petitions that are being adjudicated right now, and make sure that none of the petitions apply to beneficiaries with a comparable skillset to those that are being laid off. In other words: until these 125 people have a new job, USCIS should scrutinize pending H1-B petitions.

      Let's be honest, that would only make sense, and if these guys are any good they'll have a new job tomorrow.

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    8. Re:Making American Great Again by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Other than just saying it was worse. How is was america worse during the Obama Administration?
      The Economy improved after a bad recession.
      Gas prices became low
      Improved rights for discriminated groups
      A larger portion of the population now has health insurance.

      Yes they are trade-offs for these decisions, but for the most part from 2008-2016 increasingly got better.

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    9. Re:Making American Great Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The President can't write checks, only Congress can do that. Obama started his term during the worst recession since the 1920s, and left the job with a stock market at record highs, unemployment numbers at near record low, and 20 million Americans on health insurance who couldn't previously get it. On top of that, he vastly improved relations with all our allies around the world, who were delighted to get to deal with a mature, respectful, and thoughtful President after #43's reign. Of course Americans then deiced that "No, our President should be an uninformed, loudmouthed, bragging buffoon!". So our allies are once again having to deal with an American government that can't be unpredictable, untrustworthy, and undiplomatic...

    10. Re:Making American Great Again by fluffernutter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree. Everyone who loses a job should go into a registry and the number of H1-B offerings reduced by that number

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    11. Re:Making American Great Again by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Funny

      Other than just saying it was worse. How is was america worse during the Obama Administration?

      A long-lasting and historic low in conservative good feels.

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  2. It should not even be a blip on the radar by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Insightful
    USA typically has been creating 100,000 to 200,000 new jobs a month. This 125 job loss should not even be a blip in the radar, but it is being taken so seriously with good media coverage.

    Where was the outrage when blue collar jobs by 100,000s were disappearing all through 80s and 90s? Textile jobs, furniture making... before that auto jobs, before that railroad jobs ... White collar and the educated never cared, never bothered and were telling the 50 year old furniture makers to learn new trades. Well, it is all coming back to them, now they cry a river for the loss of 125 jobs.

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  3. Interesting fact about Lowes and Home Depot by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Founder of Lowes is a Hillary supporter and contributed money to her campaign.

    Founder of Home Depot is a Trump supporter and contributed money to his campaign.

    These two companies form a duopoly in the home improvement stores in the US, and the Republican/Democrat parties are a duopoly in government.

  4. Just another company that won't get my business by Nunya666 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I guess I'll add Lowe's to the growing list of companies that won't get any of my business because they've fscked over their IT departments:

    Toys-R-Us
    Disney
    Carnival Cruise Lines
    And now Lowe's

  5. Taking it al back by sycodon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    $550 worth of lumber is going back to Lowe's today.

    Fuck them.

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    1. Re:Taking it al back by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If more people were willing to pay a little bit extra and go to companies that treated their employees fairly and bought their goods from firms that did the same the world would be a better place.

      They mostly don't exist.

      I started driving 1.5 hrs to a HD after the local hardware store* would not sell me a replacement entry door for less than $459 and I found one at HD for $129, based on a co-worker's recommendation (HD did not have any websites then).

      * the one of three that actually had doors

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    2. Re:Taking it al back by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No. Working in a coffee shop was never meant to be a job that a person could live off.

      Says who?

      Exactly what authority says that a person working a 40 hour/week job in a coffee shop shouldn't make enough to live on?

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  6. Race to the bottom by ErichTheRed · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Long term, I think that most IT jobs at non-IT companies will be outsourced, and those outsourcers will do anything to raise the margin on their deals. This includes offshoring anything that they possibly can and/or replacing native workers with H-1Bs. The offshoring firms have a well-known loophole in the law that sets the minimum salary for an H-1B at $60K per year, not adjusted for inflation. I actually think that closing this loophole while keeping the program for its intended purpose is the way to go. If you're a body shop, and average onshore salary is $40K more than the $60K you can get away with paying a visa holder, it's obvious how much of a gift that is for the company and no wonder their sales pitches to companies are so effective.

    IT companies that outsource are engaging in a race to the bottom - once you outsource, nothing new or interesting will ever be attempted in that environment again because the provider will want to charge an arm and a leg for change orders. Also, the wall between the company and the outsourcer is going to limit how much can be changed and how the company engages with IT.

    Other than the distortion of the market this causes, I also don't like the fact that new entrants into the IT world aren't able to find as many entry-level positions at reasonable salaries anymore. Speaking as someone who's been doing this for 20+ years, and got where I am today by going through a progression of these entry-level and mid-level jobs, that pipeline needs to be in place to ensure people have the foundational knowledge they need when tackling bigger, more complex problems. No one comes straight out of college with the entire skill set required to do IT in anything but the simplest environments. In my case, I did a series of support and admin jobs to get the expertise and skills to "learn how to learn" about new stuff and how it fits into the realities imposed by the surroundings.

    Fundamentially, I worry about so much cloud abstraction in IT that people who haven't been around forever lose the ability to understand what's actually being provided under the hood by hosted SaaS stuff. Companies who treat their IT like a janitorial service are going to fall into this trap too. Being at the higher end of things these days, I deal with a lot of "systems architects" who are very good at drawing hand-wavey diagrams but can't work out where the bottlenecks and dependencies are because they don't see the end to end view. Anything complex seems to be hand-waved away in a cloud symbol on their diagrams, and an "oh, the provider takes care of that." I'm not saying we should go back to the no-abstraction era of physical servers, etc. but that we should take the time to understand the realities of what's going on.

  7. So could somebody tell me... by computational+super · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why exactly does Chief Information Officer Paul Ramsay have to be an American located in America? What does he do that an Indian in Bangalore couldn't do better for half the price in this highly competitive 24/7 retail environment?

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  8. Well that explains it by sunderland56 · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I can't find any help in Lowe's, I usually figure they're out back smoking. So now it turns out they're in India?