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Delays In Unlocking Cellphones Seized In Inauguration Day Protests? (buzzfeed.com)
Cellphone data may play a key role in prosecuting people arrested at inauguration day protests, according to an article shared by Slashdot reader Mosquito Bites. A U.S. attorney acknowledged that "the government recovered cell phones from more than 100 indicted defendants and other un-indicted arrested" in a filing last March, adding "The government is in the process of extracting data from the Rioter Cell Phones pursuant to lawfully issued search warrants, and expects to be in a position to produce all of the data from the searchers Rioter Cell Phones in the next several weeks."
But 11 weeks later, it's a different story. Prosecutors "have provided defense lawyers with access to hundreds of hours of video footage from January 20, but have yet to turn over data extracted from more than 100 cell phones seized during the arrests, according to lawyers who spoke with BuzzFeed News." In addition, they report that now more than half the 200-plus defendants "are vowing not to cooperate with prosecutors, even in the face of a new set of felony charges that carry stiff maximum prison sentences."
But 11 weeks later, it's a different story. Prosecutors "have provided defense lawyers with access to hundreds of hours of video footage from January 20, but have yet to turn over data extracted from more than 100 cell phones seized during the arrests, according to lawyers who spoke with BuzzFeed News." In addition, they report that now more than half the 200-plus defendants "are vowing not to cooperate with prosecutors, even in the face of a new set of felony charges that carry stiff maximum prison sentences."
Keep America American - Send the Muslims back to Muslimistan.
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it's what u millenialls do
In a similar way to the "mistakes" this young lady who leaked classified made, so to did most of these demonstrators.
Seriously, if you're going to participate or be part of the leadership of an organized protest, consider all your "command and control" participants use - get this! - "burner phones", and then at some point, ditch them.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
more than half the 200-plus defendants "are vowing not to cooperate with prosecutors
Why would anyone cooperate with their prosecution?
Do I misunderstand something here? Typically you cooperate with your defence and are adversarial with your prosecution, no?
Lets not forget the kind of crap that went on during these "protests" (AKA riots). They were quite violent and at least one event could be considered attempted murder--the one in which a person's hair was set on fire.
The Criminal-in-Chief probably commits worse crimes on his bathroom toilet than any three Super-villains.
Have gnu, will travel.
My guess... the DoJ will pull everything can off the phones and then say they determined they had enough evidence they didn't need to analyze the phones and hence there's nothing for them to submit as part of discovery. As long as they don't directly reference something they found on a phone, they'll get away with it. It's easy enough to do. They find an incriminating email, they just subpoena the provider for the email. Same for text messages. They'll just have to prove how they knew that person's email/phone address without access to the phone. Given how most people splash their contact info all over the place now, it shouldn't be that hard.
There are two reasons I think they'll do this... the most obvious is they don't have to disclose how much they actually do know and second an analysis of what they could and couldn't pull off 100-150+ phones could give some indication of just how good (or bad) their phone cracking is and they don't want that known (either way)
Make America Fascist Again
You should put that on t-shirts and sell it to those "Democrats" who always want to impeach presidents when the other party wins the elections and who demonstrate their love of free speech by doing their best to disrupt and silence those who disagree with them.
It's always amusing to note that none of the countries that have "democratic" in their name are even slightly democratic (e.g. Democratic People’s Republic of Korea). Well, more and more it seems to apply to political parties and their followers as well.
lucm, indeed.
"[...] even in the face of a new set of felony charges that carry stiff maximum prison sentences."
One of the side benefits from Sessions changed sentencing requirements. The Kochs are swallowing it because they want that infrastructure payout.
More deliberate, purposeful targeting by Trump of groups, companies, institutions, or people based on leftist political leanings.
Why would anyone agree to be punished ? A person loses their freedom and their job just for being a suspect; why enable more abuse? Has everyone forgotten 'presumption of innocence'? A person doesn't have to help the prosecutors; those prosecutors do have to present evidence of criminal intent. What prosecutors really mean, is they don't want to do their job. If the value of due process is so low, perhaps that's a sign: There are more important things to do.
Why didn't the prosecutors apply felony charges earlier? Either prosecutors have done their job and gathered evidence without co-operation; which makes the lack of co-operation irrelevant, or they're blackmailing suspects into confessing to 'lesser' crimes; and such 'co-operation' isn't happening.
This unashamed whinging reveals that either way, the prosecutors aren't pursuing due process.
Which would be a walk for the defendants.
By keeping them in suspense they hope they'll take the plea bargain and come out worse off.
Whenever you see the word "lawful", you know something bad for the common people is being done in the name of DUH LAW.
Remember boys & girls: "rule of law" just means "rule of lawyers". All the great human calamities of the 20th century - the trenches of WWI, the Armenian genocide, the Jewish holocaust in Germany, the atomic holocaust at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the allied firebombing of Berlin and Tokyo, Stalin's purges, the American chemical warfare against the Vietnamese people, the Soviet war against the Afghan people, the firebombing of Bagdad, etc etc - were all 100% unambiguously "lawful".
Virtuous laws and their just administration can be a great benefit to a people. Badlaws are worse than nothing.
Yeh, yah pretend the issue with Trump is somehow partisan.
Republicans suddenly love Russia, hate democracy, love their president to appoint Russian spies, and use Moscow secured networks to protect discussions from Congress and Senate.
They love how his campaign staff held secret meetings with Russian secret service, and exchanged emails with Russian government hackers. Yeh, Republicans love being lied to.
And I'm sure Republicans love it, that any foreign government can donate large amounts of money/assets to Trump and several already have. (And he's even gone back on his word about donating foreign cash to charity, now they say they'll only donate money if someone specifically indicates it came from a foreign government, and refuse to list any such money).
Yeh its a partisan issue obviously.
Party before country. Make Trump Great Again, lucm.
In referencing those "pedo comments" I note that you don't mention that Milo was talking about the incident when he himself was abused and moving past hate of his abuser. That's kind of an odd thing to omit, don't you think? Or did you even know that part? Please explain.
Your definition of "silence" is also tricky. They did get individual speeches cancelled and burned down a bit of Berkley, various people got arrested for things like sneak attacks with a bike lock to the head or attacking an unconscious person and posting that fact online with pictures, like the "liberal" genius they were. I put "liberal" in quotes as it's quite clear that they're actually complete jerks and not people who believe in live and let live.
As for the hate crimes, yes there were real ones, but you might want to look back at some of the reports now that arrests have been made. A not inconsiderable number were fake, especially the most notorious. Try fact checking them -- http://fakehatecrimes.org/ Well, there was that real one where an old man was beaten by about 6 others while someone yelled about him being a Trump supporter and filmed it. Or that other hate crime where a bunch of people decided to kidnap and torture a classmate. Funny we don't hear about those so much, despite there being videos of both crimes, right?
And look at the actual evidence. There are arrest records showing the people who did it, you don't have to take some random website's word for it. The fact that you haven't heard about most of these again is pretty much all the proof you need, though. If Trump could be blamed for it, HuffPo and WaPo would spend all day writing about it.
"are vowing not to cooperate with prosecutors, even in the face of a new set of felony charges that carry stiff maximum prison sentences."
"Confess now or we will hurt you thrice as much!" FTFY
The context is that the Trump haters keep accusing him of things that their own candidates do.
-Interference with the FBI investigation (the same guy, Comey, is the one that Clinton blames for losing the elections because he refused to stop investigating her email snafu)
-Taking money from foreign countries (which the Clintons have done for over 25 years)
-colluding with Russia (where Bill Clinton gave a speech to promote Uranium One, which conveniently received the blessing of the US govt to be partially acquired by Russian interests while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state)
so when a Trump hater accuse him of being unable to manage a coherent sentence, it's hard not to think of Obama who could probably not give the time of day if he has no cue cards.
lucm, indeed.
"prosecuting people arrested at inauguration day riots "
Showing up with clubs, hammers and then proceeding to smash/burn storefronts, cars, limos and anything else is NOT protesting.
"Let's all show up with wearing black masks and black clothes so the one who smashes stuff cannot be identified", "Whahhhhttttt. You are arresting all of us in black masks and black clothes."
"You make me side with republicans" partisan smoke screen aside.
When the NEXT election happens, and Putin is selecting which Republicans he likes and which he doesn't will you side with America or Putin?
The details of Putin's plans have been revealed repeatedly and often. You are willfully ignoring those details.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Passcode/2017/0106/Intelligence-agencies-reveal-Putin-plan-to-back-Trump
Trying to shut down the investigation, WHY? If Trump has nothing to hide, he has nothing to be afraid from an investigation.
They got caught, the feds got their phones, their "friends" are probably going to rat them out, and they think they can make things better by being uncooperative. As if being a whiny bitch is something the feds have never seen before. Well maybe if they can stall things for eight years or so then President Oprah might consider granting them a pardon. Unless she doesn't want trouble at her inaugural. Justice is blind, but she ain't stupid.
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Those in black masks and black clothes and no badge were police and not one of them was arrested. Despite being required to identify themselves to the public by law.
Sometimes it's hard to tell. Either use ISIS as an excuse for suspending everybody's right to anything.
If you have a dozen people planning and executing violence together, it makes a lot more sense to try them as a group, so that the jury sees the big picture and the defense can use the big picture. The convictions and sentencing are still individual.
Smashing windows in fed buildings in downtown DC carry's heavy fines ..like smashing windows in a post office or a mail van or FBI building etc ..and in the end did it do any good? it was like a triple failure
that Starbucks was renting from the federal government
I had a friend who was 83 years old he CCW into a post office and someone noticed a bulge in back of his jacket ..at 83 he went to jail ..feds do not play
His supporters enjoy sex with immediate family members.
Photographic proof of the rioting in action? The police should be wearing body cams showing the actions and subsequent arrest of everyone being charged.
Trying to crack these phones is a waste of government resources - it's more effective to buy and operate body cams, dash cams, drone cams, street cams...
My guess... the DoJ will pull everything can off the phones and then say they determined they had enough evidence they didn't need to analyze the phones and hence there's nothing for them to submit as part of discovery. As long as they don't directly reference something they found on a phone, they'll get away with it. It's easy enough to do. They find an incriminating email, they just subpoena the provider for the email. Same for text messages. They'll just have to prove how they knew that person's email/phone address without access to the phone. Given how most people splash their contact info all over the place now, it shouldn't be that hard.
There are two reasons I think they'll do this... the most obvious is they don't have to disclose how much they actually do know and second an analysis of what they could and couldn't pull off 100-150+ phones could give some indication of just how good (or bad) their phone cracking is and they don't want that known (either way)
Brady still applies and even for evidence that the investigators know and the prosecution does not but you are right, prosecutors routinely withhold exculpatory evidence. The latest dodge I have seen is prosecutors deciding that the evidence was not exculpatory so it did not need to be disclosed but how can the prosecutor know that? Well, it does not matter because there is no penalty for them if they were wrong. If the coin comes up heads, the prosecutor wins; if the coin comes up tails, then the defense loses.