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Kim Dotcom Loses Latest Battle To Recover Seized Assets (cnet.com)

The Justice Department wants to keep Kim Dotcom's millions of dollars worth of seized assets, citing the Megaupload founder's fugitive status. The department filed a brief on Friday, which cited his fugitive status as well as a lack of evidence supporting claims that poor health was preventing him from entering the U.S. CNET reports: Dotcom has been in the news since 2012, when the FBI and the US Department of Justice shut down file-sharing site Megaupload and charged the site's operators with the piracy-related offenses. The U.S. government also seized $42 million in assets. Dotcom, alongside Mathias Ortmann, Bram van der Kolk and Finn Batato, are wanted for trial in the U.S. on 13 counts, including copyright infringement, conspiracy to commit racketeering, money laundering and wire fraud. In February, the New Zealand High Court found that Dotcom, a New Zealand resident, and his co-accused were eligible for extradition to the United States.

58 comments

  1. Well yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Trump needs the money, to pay back his Russian loans....

    1. Re:Well yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you forget how much money Trump has. $42 million is pocket change to him.

    2. Re:Well yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hard to forget something you never knew.

    3. Re:Well yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He would kill you and your entire family for $42 million, or at least kick ~6500 of you off healthcare per $42 million over 10 years.

      And he only gets a percentage of that.

    4. Re:Well yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he has screwed over and conned people for far smaller sums of money so obviously it is a pretty important sum to him.

    5. Re:Well yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh please! He owes like around 42 billion! CHAAA!

    6. Re: Well yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I heard that Trump never even paid the Russian hookers!

    7. Re:Well yeah! by sit1963nz · · Score: 2

      Until he releases his tax returns...maybe not.

      Hell I can say that my "name" is worth 450 Trillion Dollars, that does not make it true.

      If you remove is over inflated ego and his misguided sense of worth from the equation, $45 Million may be more than what he's actually worth.

    8. Re:Well yeah! by sit1963nz · · Score: 1

      Oh please! He owes like around 42 billion! CHAAA!

      Yeah but take away the amount he ads in for his over inflated ego and he's in the red ... russian red.

    9. Re: Well yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He owes so much? To whom? Russian hookers?

    10. Re: Well yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He does it for the lulz, not the money. Of course I would gladly hurt other people for money, but I'm justified in that I need it.

    11. Re: Well yeah! by someone1234 · · Score: 1

      Unpaid tax?

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    12. Re:Well yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think your confused, Obama started this mess and took the money long before Trump was elected but thanks for your low information fake news.

    13. Re:Well yeah! by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Donald Trump. New Age Maven?

      by John C. Dvorak

      The two dimensions fighting over the Trump presidency may originate and stem from the touchy-feely late 1960’s continuing through the 1970’s. This included the influence of the book “I’m OK – You’re OK” which was released in 1967 and sold over 15 million copies. More importantly it may be the true genesis of the self-esteem movement which began to flourish in the 1970’s. This, in turn, led to the idea of the participation trophy and the concept that everyone is a winner.

      Eventually the self-esteem movement was introduced into the classroom in such a big way – especially on the West coast – that it eventually led to today’s “snowflakes”, “safe-spaces” and pretty much everything happening in the Universities.

      You can look deeply in to the I’m OK and you are OK notions combined with the self-esteem movement and you begin to realize you are uncovering Donald Trump as a genotype.

      First of all, he extols his own virtues to an extreme. He a braggart by old standards. But by self-esteem standards he is doing what he is supposed to do. Only he verbalizes more than most would. And if he’s read any of the concurrent books about having a positive attitude, he’s just doing the right thing by, well, having a positive attitude.

      He’s also exhibiting the “you’re OK” factors by exuding outrageous positive compliments on anyone he’s around. People who he picks are fabulous by any and all standards and they are all going to do an “amazing” job. This reflects the positive attitude high self-esteem concepts promoted in the mid 1960’s until this day

      It’s ironic that he is condemned for his huge self-esteem created ego and his overly positive attitude by a liberal media that has promoted all this crunchy hokum in the first place. It’s no coincidence that Trump was always a Democrat until just recently when opportunism presented itself.

      Much of his apparent adoption of New Age malarkey is what accounts for many in the Republican party being so uncomfortable with him. The religious right has never liked New Age anything likening it to a competitive religion and associating it with liberalism. Despite this he does draw a large crowd of evangelicals to listen to his speeches.

      The level of confused raw hatred towards Trump by the same people who might embrace the positive attitude and self-esteem philosophies might actually represent self-rejection. Trump is like the anti-Christ of New Age philosophies which show that perhaps these ideas can create a monster who must be rejected. Their internal justification can be rationalized by his ludicrous grab them by the pussy remarks which also trace back to extreme self-esteem issues.

      At this late date it is probably impossible for Trump to develop self-doubt or any sort of humility, even fake humility seems impossible to achieve. So what you see is what you get.

      The positive side to the man has to be his sales acumen. At the time of his life when he was obviously influenced by the New Age ideas he must have also read both the Carnegie book, “How to Win Friends and Influence People” as well as Napolean Hill’s “Think and Grow Rich.” These were common books to read during the same era if you were taking any sort of college level courses in Business. I say this because he had to learn his salesmanship style somewhere.

      Both of these books were extremely popular amongst the non-intellectual class out to make a buck. Combined with New Age philosophies of the era and you end up with Donald Trump.

      Trump will always be boastful to an extreme, which annoys a lot of people who do not understand it and cannot see him as someone with nothing more than a positive attitude on hyperdrive. The philosophies of the 60’s and 70’s here are actually taken seriously. And, yes, it’s a load of crap, but all the analysis you see and hear trying to explain it are also delivering a load of crap. In fact, insofar as the haters are concerned, when deconstructed, he is, ironically, one of them.

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  2. Praise Trump Harder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Up your game Kim, didn't you see the cabinet meeting? "On behalf the entire senior staff around you, Mr. President, we thank you for the opportunity and the blessing you've given us to serve your agenda and the American people,".

  3. Throw away the key!!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I actually don't care what he's accused of doing. His name alone merits being locked up in solitary and misplacing the key for a few decades.

    1. Re:Throw away the key!!1 by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      He could be a cellmate of "Reality Winner".

  4. And here I thought the Supremes denied by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What the actual fuck kind of a god damn hack job is this submission? gtfo with this garbage. Maybe you should wait until the Supreme Court actually, you know, decides what to do with the petition.

    Ass fucks.

    1. Re: And here I thought the Supremes denied by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you are the one who should fuck off?

  5. The headline is not consistent with the article. by ma1wrbu5tr · · Score: 5, Informative

    A "brief" being filed doesn't necessarily mean that a judge swung his gavel. Geez! This is a total fail on the ./ editor's part.
    Also:
    Kim Dotcom isn't a US citizen and has been going to all his NZ court dates. Hardly what I'd call a fugitive.

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  6. I've got my fingers crossed by viperidaenz · · Score: 1, Troll

    That in August, he'll lose the appeal and is finally removed from New Zealand.

    Additionally, they should revoke his residency since he lied on the application about previous criminal convictions.

    1. Re:I've got my fingers crossed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And why is that?

      I get you don't like him. I don't like him. But tearing down the entire legal system --this action has thoroughly shot both countries' legal systems' credibility-- just to get rid of one fat fsck seems a bit much, eh?

    2. Re:I've got my fingers crossed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They will do anything to make an example of him. They don't care what laws they break or even that their laws don't apply to people outside the USA. Hey! USA, you are not the world government yet. Your laws do not apply to anyone outside the USA. Seriously get yourself in check.

    3. Re: I've got my fingers crossed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      USA rules and laws apply everywhere. If you're not OK with it, I hope for your sake you have the firepower to back your claim. :)

    4. Re: I've got my fingers crossed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US has no reason to expand its land mass. It's already a huge country with an ever-increasing deficit and has a terrible reputation for being schoolyard bully or incessant meddler in global politics. If our leaders had any sense, they'd stop to think about the long-term viability of the country and maybe invest in our future instead of building weapon after weapon in an endless pissing contest, or laying in bed with corporations to make more bank. Who is a legitimate threat? Our military is indeed one of, if not _the_ best. The biggest risk this country holds is dismantlement from within. We're already seeing it happen, and maybe someone in power will realize our imperialist actions have given us a shit rep and we need to retreat and mind our own business. Obvious exceptions are ecological concerns like greenhouse gases, etc. as well as trade.

    5. Re:I've got my fingers crossed by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      And why is that?

      I get you don't like him. I don't like him. But tearing down the entire legal system --this action has thoroughly shot both countries' legal systems' credibility-- just to get rid of one fat fsck seems a bit much, eh?

      Your statement needs to be higher modded, and I'm trying to give it visibility. From "A man for all seasons":

      Roper: So now you'd give the Devil benefit of law!
      More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
      Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
      More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you — where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast — man's laws, not God's — and if you cut them down — and you're just the man to do it — d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.

      The problem with changing the law to fit individual circumstances is that, sooner rather than later, the now modified law can be used to pursue you.

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  7. Re: How come slashdot is deleting posts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Nobody said you can troll. Slashdot is private property, you don't have to stay.

  8. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by kelanos · · Score: 1

    Anyone who goes against the status quo in the waxing totalitarian plutocracy is a fugitive

  9. Kinda funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the very beginning pirates were stealing other people's property. I guess this makes the US Government the biggest pirates of all.

    1. Re:Kinda funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its between them and the lawyers.

  10. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...he knows too much...

  11. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by Gavagai80 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Fugitive" is typically used to mean someone on the run in hiding, escaping the police... not someone making persistently annoying use of lawyers.

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  12. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by c-A-d · · Score: 2

    Welcome to the new world where using the legal system to even determine what your rights are classifies you as a fugitive.

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  13. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by bradley13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Far from a saint? Sure, Kim Dotcom is pretty much scum. That doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve justice.

    The US has overreached in this case. They somehow convinced New Zealand to go along with it. They both got caught doing illegal stuff, which ought to have ended the case then and there.

    Instead, they have adopted a strategy seems to be one of seizing assets, and then running up Dotcom's legal bills, in hopes that he simply won't be able to defend himself any longer. Whatever this is, "justice" isn't the term that springs to mind.

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  14. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your poor spelling, failure to understand basic definitions of words, and general ignorance, particularly about how NZ politics and "veto" actually work, are offensive to the rest of us "Kiwis".

    Dotcom may or may not be guilty of what the US authorities are currently alleging, but all he's done so far is follow his allowed due process.

  15. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Kimmie? No. He has many character flaws and he certainly deserves to roast for quite a few things, but one thing is certain: Not for him knowing too much.

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  16. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Kimmie deserves justice. And sorry to say it, but this pretty much is it.

    They got Capone for tax evasion instead of his real crimes because they couldn't tack them to him. It's not that different here. Yes, under normal circumstances I'd be outraged that the US abuse their international muscle to get their way, but with Kimmie, it's at best indirect justice.

    He managed to swindle and bribe his way out of so many prisons and sold former partners and investors left and right to investigators to save his own hide, I cannot in good faith say that he doesn't deserve this.

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  17. What's a label? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    A terrorist is a terrorist unless he wins. Then he is a freedom fighter.

    Robin Hood was essentially a libertarian. He didn't rob the rich and gave it the poor, he robbed the government and gave it to the tax payers.

    It's all a matter of perspective.

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    1. Re:What's a label? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Right, which is why you Yanks love to use the term "patriot" to describe the founding fathers of your country. When they were actually committing treason at best, and terrorism at worst!

    2. Re:What's a label? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't see it as treason. What exactly is a country half the size of the colonies going to do about an entire seaboard of a country that's decided it's had enough of their shit? England was retarded for even attempting to control America.

    3. Re:What's a label? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      "You Yanks"? What did I do to deserve being offended?

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  18. He should thank Kim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe you missed it but Kim Dotcom hated Hillary and also predicted Hillary's troubles with Wikileaks months in advance on Twitter.

    I seem to remember him also working with east European technical people a lot. It would be interesting to know whether or not he actually had anything to do with all that.

    1. Re:He should thank Kim by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Well he's certainly feeding the alt-right garden with horse manure. Sean Hannity made a complete ass of himself trying to spin a Seth Rich conspiracy story partly because of Kim claimed to have a "bombshell".

  19. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can he be a fugitive from the USA?... when he has never been there. Your laws don't apply to us, we are not US citizens.

  20. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Searching any thing in the life of people to put them in jail is not justice. Even about Capone, Dotcom, in fact for anybody. Anybody can be put in jail under those conditions.

    This is why there are some failsafes in the constitution and in the human rights declaration against unreasonable search and seizure of asset.

    I always amaze that so many US citizen seems to think this kind of thing is normal. Yeaaah, he is a bad guy lets find anything to put him in jail. US justice is sick.

  21. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by RuffMasterD · · Score: 1

    NZ and USA are quite chummy. If the US really wanted to get him, they could just send a couple of agents and take him. And if the taxpayers are so damn upset about the cost of these court cases, then maybe they could...I don't know...drop the case or something. Nobody put a gun to our collective head, forcing us to hand our money over. Which is what the US appears to have done to Kim Dotcom. "Hey, we got your money. Come and get it!". Good old fashioned extortion.

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  22. Re: How come slashdot is deleting posts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This. And wait until the buyout is complete. You won't be able to recognize. Gonna be like Digg.

  23. Re: The headline is not consistent with the articl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our laws apply wherever we can target, which means everywhere.

  24. Re:How come slashdot is deleting posts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Enjoy 4chan.

  25. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by Maritz · · Score: 1

    If the US really wanted to get him, they could just send a couple of agents and take him.

    Agents? What are you talking about? You think they're going to send the CIA? Seal team 6? ;)

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  26. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the US really wanted to get him, they could just send a couple of agents and take him.

    Agents? What are you talking about? You think they're going to send the CIA? Seal team 6? ;)

    He's thinking that they could send Agents from the Matrix movie to get him. He doesn't realize they're all trapped in one of the Megaupload servers.

  27. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

    Hes delayed the trial so many times over so many petty reasons and cost the taxpayer millions in the process.

    If getting a continuance on a court date costs millions of dollars for the taxpayers, I'd say the problem is with your judicial process, not with Kim Dot Com.

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  28. Re: The headline is not consistent with the articl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This attitude is what is wrong with America. I am ashamed of my country.

  29. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

    I'm a Kiwi, and hes far from a saint.

    Hes gone to all his court dates you say? Hes delayed the trial so many times over so many petty reasons and cost the taxpayer millions in the process. He tried to bribe his way into our government system, so that during our last elections if his tiny internet party got into power, his party would veto any extradition order.

    Hes defenality a fugitive to us law. There is nothing stopping him from going to the US. And our nz law has decreed he should go. But hes refusing and tying up the courts to avoid doing so.

    You think that someone exercising all their legal options is a fugitive?

    Lemme guess - we should do away with trials altogether and simply see if they float on water, right?

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  30. Re:The headline is not consistent with the article by RuffMasterD · · Score: 1

    More like Men in Black. Going by the name and shape of the guy, there's definitely more than one illegal alien hiding in there :-D

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