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Japan Passes Controversial 'Anti-Conspiracy' Bill (privateinternetaccess.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Virtual Privacy Network Blog, News: Earlier today, after an intentionally rushed consideration process, Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe passed a new mass surveillance law conveniently called the "anti-conspiracy bill." With the vague wording of the bill, anyone suspected of planning any of [the 277 acts listed in the bill] could be put under targeted surveillance. Of course, the Japanese government has promised not to overstep their boundaries and emphasized that the new law is only meant to increase security before the 2020 Olympics. Among the noted crimes that would be punishable in Japan under the new anti-terrorism law is copyright violation, which is a criminal offense not a civil offense in Japan. Both the Japanese Bar Association and the United Nation's Special Rapporteur have spoken out against the law, saying that it will severely curtail civil liberties in Japan.

BBC laid out some of the most ridiculous things that someone in Japan can now catch a potentially terrorism-related charge for even planning or discussing on social media the acts of: Copying music; Conducting sit-ins to protest against the construction of apartment buildings; Using forged stamps; Competing in a motor boat race without a license; Mushroom picking in conservation forests; Avoiding paying consumption tax. The stated rationale of the government is that these now-illegal acts, such as copying music to CDs or foraging for mushrooms in conservation forests, could be used to fund terrorist activities. Hence, planning or thinking about them is bad. If this sounds like the Thought Police, that's because it is.

93 comments

  1. bad habits by harvey+the+nerd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...recur in Japan. Arbitrary power leads to arbitrary government and tyranny. Sounds like Japan is going to continue to implode on population.

    1. Re:bad habits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bad habits recur everywhere. The world is an unfair place, run by evil people. Always has been, always will be.

      Eternal vigilance, blood of patriots, and all that. The reasons people said that kind of thing have not changed.

    2. Re:bad habits by guises · · Score: 1

      "Tyranny" leads to a low birth rate? Come on, at least keep it plausible.

    3. Re:bad habits by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. And here I was, thinking that forgetting about history was mainly a failure of western culture. If the _Japanese_ manage it, then it is a fundamental human problem.

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  2. Whoa whoa whoa, surveillance for copyright infrin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's one thing to hack into a computer to gather evidence of a serious crime or to prevent one, and it's ANOTHER THING ENTIRELY DESU when you're subscribing anyone who ever pirated a video or a Green Day album for enhanced surveillance...

  3. Why do they need the power... by alzoron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...if they promise not to use it?

    1. Re:Why do they need the power... by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

      you didn't notice the crossed fingers behind the back i take it? (a wink might have been hard to see of course)

    2. Re:Why do they need the power... by Beeftopia · · Score: 1

      Power is like a gravity well. There is a continuous, natural push to accrue ever more power. Without constant efforts to push back, it inevitably accrues, until we're back to oligarchy.

      This is one important reason why they imposed term limits on the presidency.

    3. Re:Why do they need the power... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, being Japanese, they probably can get away with just apologizing when they are found out having lied.

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    4. Re:Why do they need the power... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh they intend to use it. The promise not to overstep their boundaries, but if they actually wanted the boundaries they would put it in the actual law.

  4. How much you want to bet this was the IOC's fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They always ask for ridiculously restrictive laws in their host countries.

  5. Psycho Pass was a warning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...not an instruction manual.

    1. Re:Psycho Pass was a warning... by Gornkleschnitzer · · Score: 1

      Give it a few more years and Shimoneta will become reality too.

  6. Orange Crush by BotFinder5000 · · Score: 0

    Don't give great Orange leader any ideas.

    1. Re:Orange Crush by Alain+Williams · · Score: 4, Interesting

      More or less what I came to say, except that I am worried that Theresa May will use it as partial justification: if a civilised country like Japan can do it, I can also impose it in England.

      I used to think that books & films like 'Fahrenheit 451' & 'Neuromancer' were just stuff for entertainment, but now I seem to be seeing this coming at me just over the hill.

    2. Re:Orange Crush by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      “Combating Money Laundering, Terrorist Financing, and Counterfeiting Act of 2017.”

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...

      Goes after crypto currencies, cash, metals, gift cards, in essence, anything that doesn't first get recorded as a taxable transaction otherwise its assets confiscation without due process "because-they-say-so" and prison time.

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  7. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You mean "cue".
    "Queue outrage" is presumably, what happens when people push into a line of patiently-waiting people. /grammar-pedant

  8. Re: Queue Outrage...But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "We note success of Japanese law and are implementing it here " - Government of bobbied's country

  9. Ugh by XSportSeeker · · Score: 1

    Sad to see this happening there, but it's not like japanese government don't have previous bills that are borderline thought police like.
    It's a country that I'd like to visit again and possibly even spend a longer time in the future, but this is pretty bad. I already discarded visiting the US in the near future, the last thing I want to see is even more countries using terrorism as an excuse for overbearing state surveillance.

    1. Re: Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "the last thing I want to see..."

      Too late.

    2. Re:Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gotta have some excuse. The terrorist acts to justify these laws were already staged by the elites. The plan to control everyone continues unabated. I certainly hope it never gets so bad that suicide is better than life, but, boy, global turn key tyranny will be difficult to unseat. We're already half way there.

  10. Occupation government by kelanos · · Score: 1

    The occupation government clamps down as the olympics approach, getting ready to smash some skulls as the general sense of nationalism in Japan grows, along with several "extreme" right-wing groups.

  11. So it has come to this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I no longer have any wish to visit Japan.

  12. Re:How much you want to bet this was the IOC's fau by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

    They always ask for ridiculously restrictive laws in their host countries.

    Maybe so. But it also sounds like 277 special interest groups got together and wrote a law to protect their interests.

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  13. Garbage Politicians Garbaging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As expected.

  14. IOC by zlives · · Score: 1

    fuck the Olympic cartel

  15. Japans not the problem. by NettiWelho · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So japan wants to do same legally everyone else is doing illegally. Atleast they're being kind of honest when they pass an actual law.

    I wish my country also would publicize what the actual rules are.

    In Finland, you can be suspect to a crime based on "evidence" inside your apartment and not observable unless already performing a house search. ie. search was ordered prior to establishing any cause.

    You can bring the victim of the original crime, doctor, whose clinic was burglarized to appeals court to prove police perjury in lower court. Cops said narcotic drugs could've been stolen, doc says cops knew an hour before the search started drug vault was still locked and untouched.

    Cops also give statement under oath that they performed visual observation giving them cause to suspect me personally between points a-b, which in reality were lacking line of sight due to concrete wall without windows. I brought pictures proving this to court.

    Court simply withdraws mention of possibly stolen drugs in new verdict, cops escape punishment, the person arrested on false pretext gets shafted with court bills.

    If the government just fucking upfront said they're going to do the fuckever they wan't all this unnecessary bullshit could've been avoided.

    In Finland, having dog hair on the bottom of your shoe can result in your house being raided at 3 am by 5 cops and the interrogation about non-existing imaginary stolen drugs lasts 7 hours. Supreme court simply refuses to admit the case without statement and whole process dies.

    1. Re:Japans not the problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So japan wants to do same legally everyone else is doing illegally. Atleast they're being kind of honest when they pass an actual law.

      I wish my country also would publicize what the actual rules are.

      They do this because democracy doesn't really exist in Japan (it's just a farce). Those in power have always been in power, and are working hard on a populace that is hammered into obedience from the start. Live and work in Japan (not as a temporary short term English teacher) and you'll understand.

    2. Re:Japans not the problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. So japan wants to do same legally everyone else is doing illegally. Atleast they're being kind of honest when they pass an actual law.

      2. I wish my country also would publicize what the actual rules are.

      3. In Finland

      Funny, how you brought up one of the most literal, rigid, and traditionally rule based systems into the discussion. Entire legislation can be found on the finlex, but there is always room for interpretation and common sense nevertheless and the various rules of how the officials interpret the written law. In your case you would have had legal representation who would have uncovered the relevant case law and any reason the procedure was violated against.

      Court simply withdraws mention of possibly stolen drugs in new verdict, cops escape punishment, the person arrested on false pretext gets shafted with court bills.

      Did you get the conviction of burglary? Anyway, if you lost your appeal and were economically deemed capable of paying the legal costs you'll end up with the bill, every time.
      Once you are in the system, a familiar of the police, there is always the suspicion. Somebody should tell this to the children before they make their future unnecessary complicated.

    3. Re:Japans not the problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simple solution, move to Portugal. They ended their War on Drugs.

  16. Germany is a country that (over) changed... by ckatko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    in response to the lessons of WW2. ...Japan is one that hasn't changed enough.

    They keep moving toward (real) nationalism. Not this "'Merica!" kind, but "change the history books" kind. They would rather forget and hide all the atrocities than accept and learn from them.

    (There are tons of great people in Japan, but the ones who have influence and power are NOT the same people.)

    For all the shit we give Germany over WW2. Nobody ever bothers to read up on the near equal horror of Japan. Human experimentation on live subjects? Yes. Belief in superior race? Yes. Death marches? Yes. An nationalistic ideology so strong they had volunteer suicide bombers? Yep. Systematic rape (and murder) of millions of women and children? Yep. Experimentation of biological and chemical weapons on prisoners? Yep. (Google Unit-731)

    1. Re:Germany is a country that (over) changed... by ckatko · · Score: 2

      Oh, and one more thing. The argument people ALWAYS use against the USA. "We firebombed their cities."

      Fun fact: Japan firebombed the shit out of Chinese civilians.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    2. Re:Germany is a country that (over) changed... by mjwx · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Oh, and one more thing. The argument people ALWAYS use against the USA. "We firebombed their cities."

      Fun fact: Japan firebombed the shit out of Chinese civilians.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      And the Americans bombed Japanese cities, Coventry (that's in England, for the geographically challenged) had the living shit blown out of it multiple times by ze Germans. It was war. In the 10 worst bombing campaigns of WWII, only one allied city made the list (London). We were a shit load better at unloading ordinance than they were.

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    3. Re:Germany is a country that (over) changed... by meglon · · Score: 1

      They keep moving toward (real) nationalism. Not this "'Merica!" kind, but "change the history books" kind. They would rather forget and hide all the atrocities than accept and learn from them.

      You haven't been paying attention to what conservatives are doing in places like Texarse, or pretty much most of the south.

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    4. Re:Germany is a country that (over) changed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Also look up Korean 'comfort' women. Japan is still either denying that anything was wrong with that, or that it happened.

    5. Re:Germany is a country that (over) changed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit like this is WHY I believe governments are out to fuck you.
      People are so blinded by their own problems to not SEE what the fuck is going on around them, or care.
      Fuck centralised power.
      Some people are just fucking sick and it is they who run the show in most all cases.

    6. Re: Germany is a country that (over) changed... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      N. Korea is kinda, pretty much, the fault of Japan. It's pretty much why NK lobs missiles in their general direction, more often than not. They really aren't fond of Japan and that's not entirely irrational. Japan was pretty shitty as they built their empire. They were somehow shittier when said empire began to decline.

      I actually have to make a conscious effort to avoid being prejudiced. It is hard because I think they have some behavioral changes that still need to be made - but that is true everywhere, including in my country. They still deny atrocities and treat war criminals as being worthy of worship and honor. I am biased, but I strive to remain objective and honest with myself. I do, I believe, treat them with respect.

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    7. Re:Germany is a country that (over) changed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I am surprised to see your comment getting Score:5

      I am from a small Asian country living in Japan for about 15 years.
      I have experienced fair amount of bad and good of Japan.
      I do not know anything about Germany, but whatever you are saying about Japan is mostly false.

      >>Japan is one that hasn't changed enough.
      Any sources?

      >>They keep moving toward (real) nationalism.
      Any sources?

      >>Not this "'Merica!" kind, but "change the history books" kind. They would rather forget and hide all the atrocities than accept and learn from them.
      Can you give some exact incident which was changed in history book with source?

      >>Human experimentation on live subjects? Yes. Belief in superior race? Yes. Death marches? Yes. An nationalistic ideology so strong they had volunteer suicide bombers? Yep. Systematic rape (and murder) of millions of women and children? Yep. Experimentation of biological and chemical weapons on prisoners? Yep.

      I guess some of those might be true but you have to give sources of each of them please.
      Also please give source where Japan is denying incident for which you can get the source.

      What I see is Korea/China spending a lot of money in marketing to world that Japan is evil.
      I see Japan apologizing formally and informally many times to neighbor countries, but they are not good at marketing it to world.

      Just a quick search will show you the truth like below. Which negates many of your claims.
      http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/11/asia/south-korea-japan-comfort-women/index.html

      Right now I am just thinking, wow, how come so many people agree with you.
      I guess we all like to stick to a stereotype and easily believe whatever marketing tells us.

       

    8. Re:Germany is a country that (over) changed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only Coventry was the biggest industrial center in the midlands.

    9. Re:Germany is a country that (over) changed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THIS, my nerdy brethren, is what we call a "State Sponsored Shill" denier.

    10. Re:Germany is a country that (over) changed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> Coventry, England
      No. You mean "Coventry, UK".

      Only Americans seem to get this so wrong.

      England, while strictly true, is the wrong sub-division to use in this context.
      It would be as silly as refering "Atlanta, Georgia" as "Atlanta, Fulton County" without specifying the state, nor the top level country.

    11. Re:Germany is a country that (over) changed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new here. You see this is slashdot and it's hard for most people here to get actual life experience beyond grits their moms feed them and the Natalie Portman posters adorning their basement walls.

      I'm from a large North American country :) but I also lived in Japan for about 7 years. My first hand knowledge of the country and its people aligns with yours. The idea that the Japanese are moving towards some nationalistic state is absurd beyond belief. Beyond that I'm not really sure what the OP's point was. I guess it was to stoke more hysterical politicking. "zOMG Japanese people who are mostly all gone and dead did a bunch of horrible stuff! And the 2-pages of their high school world history book that discusses Japanese militarism doesn't mention incident X or atrocity Y! And politician Z (great manga idea BTW!) uses euphemisms when talking about war atrocities and even has the nerve to visit burial sites of *gasp* Japanese people who fought and died in WWII!"

      The equation is simple: Some Japanese people did/do bad things = Japan BAD. Never mind that a country on the whole is decent, and democratic, and supports universal human rights, and has made numerous official public apologies for certain past transgressions, and is the 4th largest donor of developmental aid in world, and hasn't bombed other countries or been at war for 70+ years, (and really cares more about frivolous things like Pokemon and androgynous asymmetrical hairstyles than it does its nationalistic past anyway). For you see the grit-swilling basement dweller doesn't care for nuance—"sure, Japan has some good people, but the ONES in power, they're all bad!" No, the subterranean grit chugger rather prefers cynicism and anger to nuance.

      But what do I know? I'm probably just another shill (hey, just like everybody else on the Internet with whom you disagree—I'm sensing a pattern here!)

    12. Re:Germany is a country that (over) changed... by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      >> Coventry, England
      No. You mean "Coventry, UK".

      Only Americans seem to get this so wrong.

      England, while strictly true, is the wrong sub-division to use in this context.
      It would be as silly as refering "Atlanta, Georgia" as "Atlanta, Fulton County" without specifying the state, nor the top level country.

      Plenty of folks in the UK would actually disagree with you. There are quite a few who want to be "English, not the UK" or "Scotland, not GB" or "Northern Ireland, not the UK." The UK is a hell of a lot less unified than even the USA is.

  17. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Japanese do not want to do this; in fact, several nearly identical laws have been stopped by popular protests. Large swathes of the ruling elite, however, want this.
    The party currently in power also glorifies the Imperial military's conduct during the 1930s and 40s, much to the chagrin of China and Korea, whilst also trying to alter or reinterpret the current constitution to allow greater militarisation.

    "It's been 1 hour, 22 minutes since you last successfully posted a comment" Yeah, fuck you to, /.

  18. Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They have nice comfortable modern lives and no terrorists.

    somethings working.

    1. Re:Meh. by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      It's almost as though living in a homogenous, high-trust society is a good thing.

    2. Re: Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No moslems.

  19. Mushrooms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Japanese sure like their mushrooms. Perhaps this is an example how diminishing access to natural resources and increasing population density leads to ever stricter laws and punishments. Islands have always been man-eat-dogs-and-other-men worlds, but in the future the island is the whole planet.

  20. The funds could be used to fund terrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the most amusing of the rationale! By that reasoning, ALL income COULD be used to fund terrorism, therefore ANYONE who earns money should be arrested because they could use that money to fund terrorism!

    1. Re:The funds could be used to fund terrorists by Bert64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In fact anyone selling music *could* be using it to fund terrorism...
      Therefore the only option is to download it for free, as no money is made there is no change of any money being made by terrorists.

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    2. Re:The funds could be used to fund terrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its has similaritiers to the stepping stone or gateway drug theory. The good counter being milk. Buying and consuming milk helps terrorists get energy to perform their evil acts so of course all selling of milk should be a banned.

    3. Re:The funds could be used to fund terrorists by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Would you go as far as stealing from stores, to make sure the owners cannot fund terrorism?

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    4. Re:The funds could be used to fund terrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ofcourse! You have to think about the children!

  21. FAIL: Japan's population is FALLING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -nomsg

  22. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by bobbied · · Score: 1

    The Japanese do not want to do this; in fact, several nearly identical laws have been stopped by popular protests. Large swathes of the ruling elite, however, want this. The party currently in power also glorifies the Imperial military's conduct during the 1930s and 40s, much to the chagrin of China and Korea, whilst also trying to alter or reinterpret the current constitution to allow greater militarisation.

    So.. Are you advocating that a foreigner should somehow get involved in the politics of another country? If the people of Japan don't like this, they have the constitutional right to petition their government and the obligation to elect representatives who will change it. I have not dog in this hunt.

    Now if you are advocating that we *should* care and be involved in Japan's politics, I'm wondering what we've been discussing about the Russians and the last presidential election. I mean, if it's OK for us to do it, why do we complain when the Russians do it?

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  23. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pretty sure "protest" falls under "basic human rights."

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  24. Re: Queue Outrage...But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually Japan and the USA have reciprocity of copyright law. In theory, if you violate something under their copyright HERE (e.g. copy a work of a Japanese company) you could be prosecuted and tried THERE.

  25. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by bobbied · · Score: 1

    Sure, but I don't have a vested interest in this one. Protesting where don't have dog in the hunt isn't a profitable use of my time..

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  26. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by PJ6 · · Score: 2

    If the Japanese want to do this, why is it my business? I don't live there and I'm not planning to go there anytime soon. They are not out obviously committing violations of basic human rights... Let them argue their own laws and elect the politicians they wish to pass them, my opinion doesn't matter.

    "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." - Martin Luther King

  27. Suspect surveillance by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

    They should do like the US, and just put everyone under surveillance regardless of whether any suspicion of any activity exists.

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  28. anti conspiracy bill by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

    Named using doublespeak and rammed through the legislature, under the pretense of increased security. Well doesn't that sound familiar.

    Oh, you're going to object to draconian laws curtailing free speech and eroding personal privacy, that just happen to have a measure or two thrown in to protect corporate profits? Do you sympathize with terrorist criminals or are you one yourself?

    At the rate the world is going, I wonder when freedom and liberty will stop mattering entirely.

    1. Re:anti conspiracy bill by Altrag · · Score: 1

      I wonder when freedom and liberty will stop mattering entirely.

      For all? Not sure that's ever existed, though if it did it kind of died out in the McCarthy era and the continual "war" on nouns (communism, crime, drugs, terrorism.. probably missing one or two in there,) and while liberty has rallied a couple times since then, it hasn't really revived. We're pretty good at inventing reasons to oppress people.

      Of course that's just in the US. If you take a larger view of the world, there's definitely always been places where freedom and liberty have been unknown concepts for generations.

    2. Re:anti conspiracy bill by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      I'm just reminded that even in countries that give a lot of lip service and make a lot of noise about liberty and freedom, the old expression "the price for liberty is eternal vigilance" is something never to forget.

  29. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by Madalik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Totally not a False Equivalence Argument there... Raising concerns of the dangers to civil liberties of a law, is not quite the same as hacking voting computers, disinformation campaigns, and funding a candidate all in order to weaken countries that dared question my right to invade and take over random country.... yep totally the same situation there

  30. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    > So.. Are you advocating that a foreigner should somehow get involved in the politics of another country?
    I was advocating neither for nor against such action. I was claiming someone else's statement regarding the will of the Japanese people was erroneus, and pointing out (subjective) flaws in the current ruling party.

    It should be notet that 'In May, the UN Special Rapporteur for privacy rights, Joseph Cannataci, warned that: "If adopted into law [this bill] may lead to undue restrictions to the rights to privacy and to freedom of expression."' according to Al Jazeera. If the law violates any international treaties to which Japan is a signatory, other countries not only may, but have a duty, to protest this. I haven't bothered to ascertain whether this is actually the case.

    > Now if you are advocating that we *should* care and be involved in Japan's politics, I'm wondering what we've been discussing about the Russians and the last presidential election. I mean, if it's OK for us to do it, why do we complain when the Russians do it?
    Lodging official protests against laws violating international treaties (assuming this is, in fact, the case) is hardly the same as covert desinformation campaigns, allegedly trying to interfere with electronic voting, and allegedly bribing foreign politicians, is it?
    Sharing opinions on various countries' laws happens daily on this website (just today there have been discussions on new mobile phone regulations in Canada and in the EU, amongst others) and is also a far cry from what the Russians are probably doing. My personal opinion happens to be that a law which classifies participating in a boat race without a license as conspiracy to terrorism is rubbish.

    "It's been 1 hour, 31 minutes since you last successfully posted a comment"
    I'm very much advocating against these idiotic limits on posting as AC. I couldn't even submit an article about the Chinese launching a new telescope into space today. Guess my private data is just too valuable to whomever Slashdot's newest owner is.

  31. Text of the Act please by MrKaos · · Score: 2

    Precisely the same reason was laid out for granting Austrailian soldiers legal immunity for shooting at groups of citizens prior to the 2001 Olympics. Looking at what has happened to the Olympic infrastructure that was to be granted to the people of Brazil I think it is fair to say that the Olympics is a boondoggle factory of epic proportions.

    For Japan in particular, considering the media blackout surrounding Fukushima it is more that likely the government and olympic officials don't want anyone talking about the toxic radionuclides that have been distributed over Tokyo. Since you can't get any reliable information about it I'm sure the brave Japanese people who are trying, whilst suffering the criminal negligence of TECPO and the regulator, will be shut down soon.

    I would like to have a look at the text of this legislation and what is on that list however it wasn't posted with the story. As has become usual here, we are talking about this law in ignorance of what is in it. I tried to find the text of the Act for the last 45 minutes and whilst I see a lot of stories from around the world about how it was rammed through and how there was a brawl in the house about the passage of the war bill, it seems incredibly difficult to find the text of Japanese laws.

    Free speech is a joke under such laws and I wonder how long the illusion that these acts of government are in place to serve the people can be maintained.

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    1. Re: Text of the Act please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you fucking retarded ? Hmmm...it seems like you're mentally ill with your ramblings.

      The Olympics in Australia were held in 2000 and no Australian soldiers shot at anyone. Australian solders are only ever deployed (unarmed) in natural disaster scenarios on the Australian mainland.

      The only people empowered to shoot at civilians are the police and they didn't go around shooting anyone before the Olympics either.

      Don't tell me....the gubmint is fixin' to take yer gerns.....right ?

    2. Re: Text of the Act please by MrKaos · · Score: 2

      Are you fucking retarded ? Hmmm...it seems like you're mentally ill with your ramblings.

      Haters, and their "ignor-rants".

      The Olympics in Australia were held in 2000 and no Australian soldiers shot at anyone.

      Gee, sorry about being tired and making that tiny teeny error.

      The only people empowered to shoot at civilians are the police and they didn't go around shooting anyone before the Olympics either.

      The military call-out legislation was passed by the Commonwealth Parliament in September 2000. The amended call-out powers, contained in Part IIIAAA of the Defence Act 1903 (called Utilisation of Defence Force to protect Commonwealth interests and States and selfgoverning Territories) have not yet been invoked. However preparations have been made for their application. These include the staging of nine simulation exercises by the end of 2003.

      It was ratified as permanent law in 2005.

      Don't tell me....the gubmint is fixin' to take yer gerns.....right ?

      Attempting to call people out on the basis of your own ignorance is a pretty foolish thing to do. Check the convenient link I sent you and educate yourself.

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    3. Re:Text of the Act please by Altrag · · Score: 1

      the government and olympic officials don't want anyone talking about the toxic radionuclides that have been distributed over Tokyo

      I somehow doubt you need to invoke a conspiracy theory at this point to explain either the Olympics being a security boondoggle, nor a right-wing government imposing ridiculous laws in the name of fighting terrorism. Its happening all over the world, Fukushima or not.

      Never mind the fact that the Fukushima disaster was 6 years ago. Which would make them about 6 years too late to bother implementing blackout laws. That means its either not nearly as big of a coverup as you're wanting to believe, or it is a big coverup and existing blackout laws have been working fine. Either way, there is no need to try and use a 2011 disaster to justify a 2017 surveillance bill when there's so many other juicy pseudo-justifications to use.

      it seems incredibly difficult to find the text of Japanese laws.

      Try http://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/?re=02. I don't know the lag time on the translations though so I can't say how long it will be before this specific law is up. But if you know Japanese, you can go straight to the Ministry of Justice page and I imagine with some digging could find the original Japanese text as well. It would certainly be easier if any of the news sources would bother including the Japanese name for the bill though.

      I wonder how long the illusion that these acts of government are in place to serve the people can be maintained.

      Sadly, if we look at history this can be a very long time. All it takes is the right propaganda to convince people that you're serving them, and terrorism has given governments around the world a very deep well to draw such propaganda from, as we're all terrified of being the victim of an attack (even though statistically we're far more likely to be done in by a car accident or a peanut allergy or a lightning strike or any of a few dozen other things.)

    4. Re:Text of the Act please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Never mind the fact that the Fukushima disaster was 6 years ago. Which would make them about 6 years too late to bother implementing blackout laws"

      You do realize that it is an ongoing problem. Cleanout has only just begun, probably not even 10% complete. Radioactive waste is still being released and they are not exactly sure exactly how far down the breached core is yet.

    5. Re:Text of the Act please by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      I somehow doubt you need to invoke a conspiracy theory at this point to explain either the Olympics being a security boondoggle, nor a right-wing government imposing ridiculous laws in the name of fighting terrorism. Its happening all over the world, Fukushima or not.

      I don't see it as a conspiracy theory, I see it as a politically convenient excuse. Government has a technique for acquiring a type of power. There is no conspiracy in saying the state acquires power, that is what it does. So it can only be described as thought policing, because that is what it is. Both right and left wing parties participate as they certainly aren't looking after the interests of the populous if a direct attack on freedom of speech is sustained and passed into law, in a democracy.

      This is what the Soviet government did to their people, forced them to falsify their existence and look how that turned out. People *have* to be allowed to speak their truth no matter how ridiculous it is. After all, that's the job of the fool, to speak truths no one can.

      I think this is fundamental to our existence, our very sanity, to speak our truth.

      Never mind the fact that the Fukushima disaster was 6 years ago. Which would make them about 6 years too late to bother implementing blackout laws.

      This is about how long the Australian amendments took to become permanent law, which has similar political system to Japan, even though the names are different.

      I wonder if the Japanese people will receive a list of things they can't talk about, or just be arrested when they do. What an uncomfortable predicament that would be. The list should be called "The list of things to lie about" because it's a parody of democracy.

      Try http://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/?re=02. It would certainly be easier if any of the news sources would bother including the Japanese name for the bill though.

      I had the name this morning on another machine and this was the first site I tried. Sorry I'm too tired to remember. I wanted to find out what was on the list.

      Sadly, if we look at history this can be a very long time. All it takes is the right propaganda to convince people that you're serving them, and terrorism has given governments around the world a very deep well to draw such propaganda from, as we're all terrified of being the victim of an attack (even though statistically we're far more likely to be done in by a car accident or a peanut allergy or a lightning strike or any of a few dozen other things.)

      A great politician can get a crowd to applaud his incompetence as he takes away their freedom.

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    6. Re:Text of the Act please by Altrag · · Score: 1

      Yes. In fact that's exactly my point. Its been ongoing for 6 years. So why would they need a law to blackout media coverage now rather than 6 years ago? I mean maybe they did have one 6 years ago and there really is a conspiracy. I don't buy it but I'm not going to claim its impossible either.

      That still doesn't explain why they'd need a new blackout law now, or why they'd bother using that as an excuse for a surveillance bill when the whole world is implementing surveillance bills without having to refer to nuclear disasters. I mean this new Japanese bill might be a bit silly and over the top (like most things Japanese!) but its hardly out of place in the current global political environment.

    7. Re:Text of the Act please by Altrag · · Score: 1

      I see it as a politically convenient excuse

      A politically convenient excuse for what? You don't really need much of an excuse to implement a surveillance bill these days. Just follow in the footsteps of the UK and the US and ignore your populace when they complain. Everybody's doing it!

      This is what the Soviet government did to their people

      I'm not saying oppressive laws aren't a problem. I'm saying that using Fukushima and arbitrary "media blackouts" 6 years after the fact would be both strange and unnecessary.

      This is about how long the Australian amendments took to become permanent law

      Kind of irrelevant. A bill for modifying corporate tax rates or something similarly mundane.. well whatever 6 years is OK. Something time-critical like a media blackout would need to be implemented nearly instantly or it will be irrelevant. If they put in a media blackout today (and didn't have one for the past 6 years) then we would already have 6 years of reports circulating. Way, way, way too late to put the cat in the bag. Which indicates either a) they already have one (and thus don't need another one) or b) they don't have one (and thus implementing one now would be useless to the point of stupid.)

      I wanted to find out what was on the list.

      Probably a whole stack of random grievances that some MP or other had and other MPs didn't care enough about to veto. Some of them will be stupid (but make for more amusing headlines, so we hear about them a lot) but most will fairly straightforward -- at least in the context of reducing your worldview to the logic of "Me good, everyone else bad."

      A great politician can get a crowd to applaud his incompetence as he takes away their freedom.

      Or we could have our current set of politicians just take away your freedom and tell you to piss off when you don't like it. I mean its not like you can really do anything about it except for try to vote them out next election (and probably replace them with someone just as bad.) Western militaries would flat out stomp any civilian uprising if it came to that (even in the gun-loving USA,) and the world would have to change significantly before that power dynamic shifts to any great extent.

      We're living in the greatest time in human history. And there's a lot of people doing their damnedest to reverse that trend.

  32. When you/it causes your nation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lots of money like looking in sea freighters containers and you are wrong you should get a bullet in the ear.

  33. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by aevan · · Score: 2

    But protesting the protesting of a hunt you lack a dog in is a good use of your time?

  34. Re:I'm sorry, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The flamebait mod is perfect example of how badly the truth hurts. You damn people would rather complain and link to advertising click-bait than actually try to fix the problem. This tyranny is your own fault.

  35. Re: Queue Outrage...But why? by KGIII · · Score: 1

    I suppose the correct answer to your question is, "Empathy."

    However, it may be important to note that oppression often leads to violence of varied scales. Which means your country would potentially be involved. If they are involved, it will cost them money. That means you pay more in taxes.

    I can't say I'm overly concerned, but I guess those are answers to your question.

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  36. Comming to work on time should be felony by 12dec0de · · Score: 1

    Maybe Japanese lawmakers go the full length and make comming to work on time a felony too.

    After all, holding a steady job is a fantastic way to finance terrorism. And a cover. And with the right job, even access to large buildings,city centers, subways during rush hour.

    Yes, this is sarcasm.

  37. Snooper's charter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... planning or thinking about them is bad.

    Australia and the UK just passed the 'Snooper's charter' (and the USA is considering it); now they'll want a law enforcing this.

  38. Re: Queue Outrage...But why? by davester666 · · Score: 1

    Yes. We must immediately harmonize these copyright infringement laws around the world, just to there is a level playing field for copyright holders. People have been getting away with remembering words from books, songs, movies for far too long!

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  39. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Protesting where don't have dog in the hunt isn't a profitable use of my time."

    Which makes you a self centered, asshole. Or, as we like to say, The Ugly American.

  40. Re:How much you want to bet this was the IOC's fau by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    There's probably eight laws to protect tentacle hentai porn.

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  41. CD rental store by ProfBooty · · Score: 1

    I remember when living in Japan, you used to have CD rental stores. You could rent a CD for a day for ~100Yen, At the time 20 years back or so, a new cd was around 3,000 yen or about double US prices. Of course right by the counter was a stack of minidiscs to buy, which probably explains why that format took off in Japan and not in the USA.

    http://neojaponisme.com/2005/0...

    The above link explains that the media manufacturers apparently had more clout than the music industry and thats why the stores were permitted.

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  42. Thought police? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where in the summary is there anything even close to "thought police"?

  43. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by gweihir · · Score: 1

    This is part of a global trend and the fascistoid governments in power in far too many places these days take cues from each other. I take it you live on this planet? Then it _is_ your business.

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  44. if blocking terrorism funding is the goal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they should make it illegal to buy oil.

  45. Re: First sambo pots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOLOLOLOL I'm done.

  46. Re:Queue Outrage...But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no he wants you to play this https://www.discogs.com/Outrage-Theme-From-Outrage/master/146846