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OnePlus 5, 'The Best Sub-$500 Phone You Can Buy', Launched (arstechnica.com)
From an ArsTechnica article: Smartphone companies don't seem to care about cultivating a true "lineup" of phones. If you aren't spending at least $650, most companies will offer you anonymous, second-rate devices that seem like they've had no thought put into them. Enter the OnePlus 5, which continues the company's tradition of offering an all-business, high-end smartphone for a great price. Today OnePlus is both announcing the OnePlus 5 and lifting the review embargo on the device, which we've had for about two weeks now. $479 gets you an aluminum-clad pocket computer with a 2.45GHz Snapdragon 835 SoC, 6GB of RAM, 64GB of storage, and a 3,300mAh battery. You still get OnePlus' physical 3-way alert switch, a USB-C port, capacitive buttons with a front-mounted fingerprint reader, and a headphone jack. The phone has two cameras on the back: one 16MP main camera and one 20MP telephoto camera, arranged in the most iPhone-y way possible. Besides the $479 version, there's a more expensive $539 version, which ups the RAM from 6GB to a whopping 8GB, adds another 64GB of storage for a total of 128GB, and changes the color from "Slate Grey" to "Midnight Black." Further reading: OnePlus 5 review: as fast and smooth as Google Pixel, without the price tag - The Guardian;
OnePlus 5 review: the me-too phone - The Verge; OnePlus 5 Review - Wired.
Question for OnePlus owners: does this outfit keep the device OS current?
I'm ready to upgrade, though not in a hurry. It's been a great phone and is lightyears ahead of the garbage that Apple and Samsung are dumping into the market.
One of the 2 SIM slots could be used as an SD Card reader in the past. Don't know about this one though.
And really, what do you keep on your phone that doesn't fit on 100+GB of storage??
2017:
Carrying around an electronic leash
Being this much of a dumb cuck
Paying out the ass for the privilege of being treated like trash
It's like you all WANT to be treated like convicts in prison, or animals in a zoo.
When smart phones first came out it was a gold rush to get a 'good enough' device. Looking back at photos from my early phones they were... terrible. The screen cracked if you looked at it. The OS was slow, feature lacking and had a long way to go.
Since then I've stopped buying the latest and greatest and transitioned to 1-2 cycle old products. I tried out a Note 5 and 6 but they really didn't seem that impressive over my Note 4. (As compared to say my Note 4 over my 2010 HTC).
The camera is as good as my old P&S. Accessories are cheap. They've been rooted and ROMs are available.
The same reason my laptop is a 2012 model. It still has decent performance, storage and memory and used costs a fraction of what a new one does.
No one is going to buy a $479 Android phone.
Which would be great if we knew how much current this thing is pulling. I'm expecting not a trivial amount, with a 2.45Ghz processor.
How about you have it run Netflix or some games and tell us how long you've got until it craps out?
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rediculous.
I thought all non-iPhones were a USB storage device for computers?
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You plug it in with a USB cable and set it to file copy mode instead of charge mode. I just did that last night on my OnePlus One to pull several videos from my phone to computer. It's not hard.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
what do you keep on your phone that doesn't fit on 100+GB of storage??
The point of a card slot is not having "extra" storage but having "removable" storage. I can pop out the card, edit the files on my laptop, or give it to a friend or co-worker.
Also, my family photo album is way more that 100+ GB. I don't really need to carry all the photos and home-movies with me, but it is nice, and a 256GB MicroSD card costs less than $40, so why not?
I remember back in the day when people scrolled past articles that didn't interest them instead of posting whiny comments.
Here's the spec sheet, scroll down a bit to Connectivity and you'll find the supported bands. It shouldn't be hard to find out which bands a particular carrier uses.
https://oneplus.net/5/specs
One good thing about this phone, I think it's the first one that has a single edition instead of localized versions. With the 3, for example, you could pick North America or Europe/Asia, but not a single phone that supports all of those bands. It looks like they finally have a radio that supports all kinds of bands and a single edition of the phone.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
Something like 15 years ago, I used to see SIM form factor SD-cards from Sandisk. Since I don't see it anywhere nowadays, from what I can tell, that's been discontinued. Does anyone make it anymore?
I agree w/ the 2nd point. Up to 32GB, it looked like the entire phone storage could be eaten up by the OS. But at 64GB, is there a compelling need for more storage? I only consider an SD card a must have if the main storage is 32GB or below
Aside from that, one can also use Bluetooth. Or back up the phone's files on Google Drive, and then download it to the computer.
I don't necessarily play the latest 3D game with my phone, but I would like to play a real game in the 3D world with it. Having to constantly worry that it'll get broke, or will go haywire if I get it wet from sweating to much.
"How *livable* is this phone?" is the only question I want answered from any reviews now-a-days.
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If you're running Netflix, you're probably close to a charger, like in the car or something. Either that or you're a sad, pathetic fool... ... I was not aware that millions of people that have long commutes on a bus or train were sad, pathetic fools.
Or the millions of people who take plane flights often lasting three hours or longer for domestic flights...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Verizon would have to pre-qualify any phones, and one can't buy an unloaded phone and just add a Verizon SIM to it. Reason being that any Verizon phone, aside from being 4G compatible, needs to be able to fall back on Verizon's 3G/2G services in areas that don't have 4G coverage. Same would be true of Sprint
With Verizon, one's choices are the iPhones, the Pixel, the Galaxies and some Mot models.
How much storage do you need on a phone? Do you use it to download your movie collection or record your missed TV programs? I can understand if this was about a set top box or even a computer, but a phone?
I recently installed this for getting files off of my phone. I ssh'd into my phone and rsync'd back to my computer, worked like a charm. Nexus 6P, not rooted.
My Samsung Galaxy S4 has plenty of capacity for anything I need it for (Viber, OsmAnd, games, calendar, Gmail). My main concern is to have it work as long as possible, because switching phones is always a bit of a PITA. As long as the battery is user-replaceable, I will be able to use this phone for years.
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Stopped reading at "3300 mAh (non-removable)" and no SD card slot.
I've found it pretty useful to download wikipedia dumps when I'm on vacation without internet access. Last time I downloaded the text-only, it weighed in at about 14GB I think, but including images it gets north of 60GB. A 64GB phone ain't gonna fit that, and a 64GB microSD card is probably way cheaper than the cost to upgrade to 128GB.
is $399 and it's awesome. No idea what this is about.
It's kind of like the apple only it runs a real operating system.
Why is Apple the only company "courageous" enough to still offer a model of their flagship phone in a pocketable form-factor? Every time I read one of these new Android phone announcements, it's always a huge disappointment when I get to the screen size specification. It really seems like with Android phones if you want a smaller screen, you've gotta make big sacrifices in the CPU, RAM and camera quality departments. Manufacturers are only willing to put smaller screens on low-end phones.
At least OnePlus bucked the idiotic curved glass trend. I already lived through the CRT era; geometric distortion should've stayed in the past. I can't believe all these Millennials who actually think it looks cool to see the edges of everything being distorted across the sides of their phones.
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Planes today have built-in entertainment, including power ports and even USB ports to charge your phone.
Only international flights, most domestic flights still do not have a USB ports in the seats (I ave never, for example, seen a USB port on a Southwest or JetBlue flight and on Spirit they actually hook electrodes to your body to drain energy from you to power the avionic system). Planes have also been more recently getting rid of in-seat screens and having you watch things on your tablet/phone (they will also loan you a tablet if you need one).
I mean, they do here
Now I see the fundamental problem, a bad case of Silicon Valley Vision. Sigh...
You simply do not understand how the rest of the world lives, not even an inkling.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Never settle? This phone? It looks like if you're picking this phone, you're settling for a non-removable battery and no SD card slot. I'm getting rather sick of companies taking away features and touting the results as better.
Have a One plus X , bought it for 269 â , or something like that a year ago.
Best $mart phone I ever bought for the money. The specs (at the time) were more than enough for what I need it for (I dont play games on the phone) . Call, email, txt , camera, occasional browsing , and news apps.
Has dual SIM and a SD slot. Plus the battery life is amazing, I dont overload it with useless apps either. Most my colleagues at work have One as well , all different models. While the battery servicing is an issue not one of my colleagues has ever had a battery issue. Also maybe we are all engineers and use / charge our batteries properly for longevity.
I think this qualifies as an edge case...
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I drag and drop files on to an iPhone or iPAd all the time. It's called iTunes File Sharing and doesn't require having to enable anything for it to work.
AirDroid. Good wireless is as fast (or faster than) all but the most expensive uSD cards anyway. Android has a real, accessible file system so you're never really at a loss for transferring things onto, or off of, your phone.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Oddly enough, I have have a uSD in my Galaxy and never remove it. BUT, everything gets stored there so that, if there's a problem with the phone (and it's happened), all my stuff transfers and I don't have to wonder if I've moved all my personal files off the handset before I reset it or wipe it before selling or trading in.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Doesn't that require your files to go to iCloud?
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$40 is not currently a realistic price for 256GB MicroSD card from a decent company. They're over $100 and closer to $150.
Consider that you get 128Gb storage for a pretty good price...
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I have a OnePlus X, and it's the perfect size. Best phone I ever had (except for the Nokia 8290 and the Moto SLVR L7). Running LineageOS on it, and I love it. The only thing it's missing is NFC, which, I mean... comeon.
But this thing, just like most of the "flag ship" phones out there, is just too damned big.
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Why do you need more than 128Gb on a phone? Genuinely curious.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Shenanigans. If you did you would be posting with your 5 digit UID instead of AC. Meaning, slashdot has had whiners since about the 90k user mark
... a 256GB MicroSD card costs less than $40, so why not?
Either you're writing from the future, you have a special hookup, or you're talking about junk no-name "256GB" microSD cards that corrupt your data and aren't actually 256GB. No reputable (reliable) brand is selling 256GB microSD cards for less than $100.
Maybe you meant 128GB, which would be more realistic.
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It does require iTunes, though. If I want to move files on or off of my Android devices, I only need an OS with MTP support (or PTP, if you only want to pull pictures off).
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Apparently they are cheating at benchmarks: https://www.xda-developers.com...
I don't know how much to trust them as a company. Also the comment further up about them spamming older phones with ads for the new phone, with no way to turn it off. Even Samsung doesn't do that.
But because I'm a Linux user I'm also blessed with KDE Connect that integrates the phone nicely with the file manager on the laptop.
Another option that works is an OTG USB cable and a flash drive, I've even successfully had a 500GB 2.5"HD connected that way.
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
How's that clumsy?
1. Plug the USB cable into the phone and computer.
2. Pull down on the notification menu thing for the phone, click to change from "Charging" to one of the other options you want.
3. Open the phone/folder on your computer and copy files.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
Did you miss the part where I did this on a OnePlus One, which is not running Android 4? There were several options to choose from in the USB connection menu, I picked the one about just copying files. There was something else for media that I ignored, maybe that's what you're referring to.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
I paid $25 for a 128GB MicroSD last Black Friday. Granted it's from an unknown brand (Samsung).
Don't you have a laptop somewhere to store most of your library on? Are you really that lazy that you can't swap some songs once a month? Doesn't iTunes have functions to build a random playlist for you and sync your device with it?
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Airdroid is the best way.
I paid $25 for a 128GB MicroSD last Black Friday.
That does not mean that you can get a 256GB card for $50.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
With 65GB free, you can put a version of wikipedia on it.
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