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Sweden Passes Bill To Become Carbon Neutral By 2045 (newscientist.com)
Sweden is the first country to significantly upgrade its carbon ambitions since the Paris accord in 2015. The country has passed a new bill committing to cut its net carbon emissions to zero by 2045. New Scientist reports: The law was drawn up by a cross-party committee and passed with an overwhelming majority in parliament by 254 votes to 41. The legislation establishes an independent Climate Policy Council and requires an action plan to be updated every four years. Sweden had previously committed to becoming carbon neutral by 2050. It already gets 83 per cent of its electricity from nuclear energy and hydropower, having met its 2020 target of 50 per cent renewable energy eight years ahead of schedule. To achieve carbon-neutral status, the country will focus on reducing emissions from transport by increasing the use of biofuels and electric vehicles. It plans to cut domestic emissions by at least 85 per cent, and offset remaining emissions by planting trees or investing in projects abroad.
Please?
Aaaand in the meantime, my country is trying it's darndest (under the current administration and GOP leadership) to move back to coal.
Woohoo!
I find it interesting that Sweden plans to reach carbon neutrality partly by investing in projects in other countries. So, let's say that Sweden invests in reducing emissions in the United States and counts it toward carbon neutrality in Sweden. But because those projects are in the United States, wouldn't they also count that toward reducing carbon pollution in the United States? Won't these carbon dioxide reduction efforts end up getting counted twice because it's politically in the interests of both countries to claim them? When the United States claims to have reduced emissions dramatically, how much of that is already claiming foreign investments that are also counted by the countries making those investments? It seems like this is an easy way for politicians to lie about their efforts to reach carbon neutrality and double count them. And the current leadership of the United States most certainly isn't above doing that sort of thing.
Enjoy your wall.
Er, I mean enjoy your Muslim ban.
Er, I mean enjoy your great healthcare plan
Er, I mean enjoy your newly onshored American jobs.
Er, I mean enjoy your new H-1B laws which protect American jobs.
Er, I mean enjoy China being labeled a currency manipulator.
Er, I mean LOL hahaha. You've been duped, jackasses.
A country where personal income tax averages 61% just went up 10%, IMHO.
... when your population almost equal the population of New York, yet spread on 450x the surface area.
Is this passing the buck unfairly to some future politicians or are they actually gaining ground and on track already?
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I really don't think this bill will mater by then, since Sharia Law will probably be the law of the land -- which in some ways is no difference than their hate-speech-laws when it comes to oppressing their citizens.
The law should be titled: Except for all the pollution that results from all the oil that we export, which is our number one source of revenue for our economy, Sweden plans to be carbon neutral by the year 2045. It is easy to bull shit and be sanctimonious, harder to actually be an adult and make real, hard choices about life, or at least appreciate those that do. http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/...
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
Looser!
Actually, a great deal of that coal was sold to other nations, who actually have an industrial base. These nations are where all the products that you so enjoy are manufactured, with minimal environmental standards and abhorrent labor laws. But, this is all done out of sight, so that makes it ok in your book.
Why? because unlike the people who lost their jobs, you are truly stupid because you clearly don't understand this.
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
Your cum tastes salty, just like liberal tears.
Maybe, but then again how bad is the mythological "caliphate" compared to the quite real terror imposed by the US military?
Since you are a member of the Tailhook association, perhaps you can enlighten us. Or go back to raping women in Las Vegas, your choice.
Pretty much what I was thinking. There won't even be a Sweden by 2045. At least not one that's recognizable. Seems like they've got way worse problems than carbon pollution.
The soylentnews experiment has been a dismal failure.
You mean the election in a district where the GOP is down 60,000 votes from November? I'd take that swing nationwide any day of the week. That kind of hit would be crippling even if the Supreme Court does nothing about the partisan gerrymandering and voter suppression.
Wait till Trumpcare fails. There's a reason they won't even tell their own Senators what is in it.
“I made them this promise,” Trump said, “we will put our miners back to work.”
Then he signed one of his big-boy papers called "Create Energy Independence".
They're not killing it artificially. Fracking is cheaper for gas, solar is where the vc money is going. Mines themselves automated, removing 80% of their jobs.
It's not a big conspiracy, no matter what the coal companies pay Hannity to say.
Sweden to be Muslim Free by 2020.
You wasted $1.5B during the 2016 election. You'll need $10B for a breakthrough in 2018 because you offer nothing but systematic racism and sexism, and violence in the streets.
We don't need Obamacare or Trumpcare. Soon we'll have state-level care, the way it should be.
Worse problems? Like what? Having to decide who to give a Nobel prize that will piss off Putin and Trump?
Julian Assange is out, and Snowden, but maybe Tom Cruise.
If there's state level care, it's because the Republicans have run Obamacare into the ground by withholding subsidies and replaced the ACA with a disastrous plan of their own. States would then step in to clean up the mess left by the GOP. Why won't the Senate GOP release their health care bill? They bashed the Democrats for not releasing the PPACA bill soon enough, then the GOP is hiding behind closed doors and keeping their health care plan under lock and key. Pathetic.
Also, the Georgia result isn't a long term win for the GOP. It was a close win in a heavily Republican district. Yes, they won, but it's clear that voters aren't happy with the GOP. It doesn't bode well for the GOP in midterm elections.
Ceasing to exist.
I don't see you submitting any "proper" tech stories...
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
They said "planting trees"? - wow, that actually makes sense. If only all the money we blow on reducing emissions could be spent on planting trees, cleaning water, and irrigation.
Yes, you refine the oil, then export it. Everything I said still stands.
Purposely obscuring the argument does not make you correct, or even appear to be smart.
I included a link backing all that I said. Since it was about Sweden, even the most casual reader could infer that I did not mean Norway.
Nothing in what I said created fear or claimed to inspire it. So, no, I am not fear mongering. Perhaps you do not understand what that phrase means. I will give you a hint. It does not mean "someone who disagrees with me and my uneducated assertions." So, your usage was off.
BTW, let me educate you further. After refining petrochemicals, the next large part of your economy is derived from the manufacture of pharmaceuticals, followed by car production. By any stretch of the imagination, none of these rely on green processes, especially when you include all the parts and chemicals that are required. I bring this up because adults understand that the world is complicated. They address all facts, especially the hard ones. They make the best choices they can based on this.
Children hide behind convent lies, because it makes them feel better. So, you can go enjoy some nice milk and cookies, and pretend that your country is "green" by 2045, while ignoring the fact that all the money made for these green processes relies on incredible pollution.
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
Bit of a stretch for you to call it thinking. Racism is more of a reflex.
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yeah, there aren't people that do business all over the world and conspire against any competitors. so we shouldn't come up with a word for them!
seriously, you are mentally defective. no one cares about your knee jerk reactions. you are irrational and self-righteous. you have no right to speak about anything.
This page is created by the company that runs the swedish powergrid
http://www.svk.se/drift-av-stamnatet/kontrollrummet/
At the botton you can se live data on the types of energy produced in sweden
Kärnkraft = Nuclear
Värmekraft = Heat power (burning wood and the like)
Ospecificerat = Undefined, for instance oil or electricity pushed back to the grid when trains uses the breaks.
Vindkraft = wind
Vattenkraft = Hydro
The map above (of the entire nordics and baltic area) show how electicity is transported and what the price are in different regions.
The Swedish green and liberal think tank Fores described the law as the most ambitious of its kind in the world, adding that the "concrete", long-term goals will give the market the certainty it needs to kickstart a transformation.
http://williamreview.com/
Right. And your knowledge of Swedish history, culture, politics and economy is - what, exactly?
Well, this significantly beats the previous plan.
Carbon Neutral means they still plan to emit it.
So the won't have to get rid of all their animals, and people, who breathe out the stuff.
And their forests and other plant life gets to live, since they breathe in the stuff.
Some enterprising soul must have taught them biology since their last announcement...
You've swallowed too much Info Wars.
Learn to spit.
Fighting against fascist cults is not racism.
I would have thought that the environment was the point.
Only -20 this winter, what disaster...
If I were a Swede, I would be pumping as much carbon in to the air as I could!
It's not "reflexive racism" that is causing the downfall of Swedish culture, it's internal sexism.
When terrorism and rapidly rising sex crimes are discused, the new narrative is that those things "have nothing to do with immigration...[they are] just a man problem"
What will the future bring when terrorism is blamed on men as a whole in one of the most supposedly egalitarian countries in the world? That culture is tearing itself apart from within day by day.
What with the ever increasing muslim population and now global warming alarmism, what could possibly go wrong?
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Sweden has huge amounts of forests that use up almost all produced CO2.
"For a pay of 100, the employee first pays 32 in income tax (direct, 32%)"
So income tax is 32%.
Payroll fees are not income taxes, moron.
So the left wing ruling party, and the hundred's of thousands of "refugees" they invited in, will have finished burning the country to the ground by then?
Terrorism is hardly a problem in Sweden.
Their worst terrorist attack so far didn't even kill half the number of people right wing extremists killed the same year.
They need to start throwing people supporting neo-nazis in jail and most of the problem will be gone.
What really needs to happen is that countries need to begin extracting carbon from the atmosphere and not just with trees but rather chemical machinery that actually generates piles of soot. Mandate that they be maintained and expanded year-after-year until atmospheric CO2 begins to decline. It's then a matter of funding which will come from taxes. To make it palatable to the greatest contributors of CO2, the tax will be distributed evenly among taxpayers. Later the evergrowing tax burden can be shifted to industries that are putting out CO2 or make/sell/import things that do. When the tax burden has caused these industries to based on unsustainable CO2 emission to implode, the tax burden will then be reapplied to the taxpayers. However, by the time it gets back to the taxpayers that it will be far less expensive than before and levels should actually be decreasing.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Animals and people are already carbon neutral.
You can't breath our more CO2 than the carbon you've consumed, from plants can not have more carbon than they have previously removed from the atmosphere.
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No, the coal jobs are being lost to cheap gas - which right now is reducing US carbon output, Paris or no Paris.
"Reducing"? Not really. Slowing the growth would be more accurate. Natural gas is still a fossil fuel and overall demand is still growing. Emissions remain far higher than is likely to be a good idea. The US will have to do a LOT more than simply swap coal for gas. We are the per-capita biggest polluters in the world and only China exceeds us in total emissions.
As the music builds slowly in intensity...
2045. Sweden has become fully carbon-neutral.
A lone fembot terminator unit has been sent back in time to achieve a different goal.
2046. Her task is to eliminate the male of the carbon based species so that Sweden will effectively be carbon-sterile. If she needs to entrap them in compromising situations to achieve her goal, well, whatever. She is to use any and all weapons necessary to fulfill her mission.
Hmm..."We'll have to pass it to find out what's in it"...where HAVE I heard that before?
IOW, so what else is new, other than which Party is trying to pass some sort of health-insurance reform without telling anyone what they're actually voting for?
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
Meanwhile, in Québec, hydropower alone accounts for 95.73% and 99% of our electricity was generated from renewable sources as early as 2013.
There are similarly high hydro/nuclear/wind/renewables percentages for most of the other provinces too.
And when you account for the size of our country, it makes us chuckle when Sweden and other small countries talk about renewables. It's great that you guys do it, but you don't see us writing about it. Well, aside from my own post I mean.
A historical parallel:
In 1980 Sweden introduced a bill that all nuclear power will be abolished by 2010. This was put up for public referendum, and passed.
In 2010 nuclear power was not abolished in Sweden, with the motivation that a 30 year old decision cannot be binding.
So the precedent is set.
There won't BE a Sweden in 2045 at the rate things are going. Heck, by 2020 it will be Swedenistan of the Caliphate. Been nice knowin ya!
Must be nice to be in Sweden... Here in California, neither source is considered 'renewable' or green, and many don't consider them carbon neutral either.
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Hey, nutter, Infowars is missing an idiot. You should run back there and talk to your friends about the lizard people.
And is it not men problem? A question for you: what is the common element in all US shootings, recent terrorist attacks in UK (including Finsbury Park) and almost all rapes? Here is a small hint: it is not religion.
But your tone and posting history and where you posted indicate you want this to be taken as proof AGW is a minor thing, yet the comparison you insisted on us trying has vocanoes being not even a blip on the radar.
Hmm..."We'll have to pass it to find out what's in it"...where HAVE I heard that before?
In the lies and misrepresentations being told about what Nancy Pelosi ACTUALLY said?
IOW, so what else is new, other than which Party is trying to pass some sort of health-insurance reform without telling anyone what they're actually voting for?
Nothing has changed, the GOP is still hiding the truth from the American people. First they were lying about the contents of the Affordable Care Act so badly that Pelosi ACTUALLY said: “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy." because of their storm of lies but of course, the GOP continued that pattern of lies, and twisted that to claim to mean that somehow, people didn't have the ACTUAL bill to review and examine. But they did. It was published, and Representatives and Senators from both sides were regularly talking about it to the people.
So what Pelosi actually meant was rather the opposite of what the GOP claimed she said. And she wasn't unique, they did it with Obama and Clinton as well. Yet it has become a right-wing shibboleth, a mantra, repeated until the delusion is shared.
On the other hand, the GOP Senate is not revealing their own text to the public, they are not meeting with the public, and even their own are saying:
“No, nor have I met any American that has. I’m sure the Russians have been able to hack in and gotten most of it.”
“I’m very eager to see the language. I don’t think it gives enough time to thoroughly analyze the bill, but we’ll see when it comes out.”
"as far as I know the overwhelming majority of my colleagues haven't been able to see it either."
"It has become increasingly apparent in the last few days that even though we thought we were going to be in charge of writing a bill within this working group, it's not being written by us, it's apparently being written by a handful of staffers who are members of the Republican leadership in the Senate,"
The fact is, there are numerous quotes from GOP senators admitting they haven't had a part in writing the bill, not even a chance to read it. And they're timid, at best, in their objections to this secretive process. But they aren't able to deny what we already know. The sausage is being made, in secret, and they don't want us to see it.
Want me to find quotes from the House version of Trumpcare? It's the same story. Prevarications and lies, numbers of GOP Representatives admitting they never read it. Not to mention the haste in passing it, and the lack of public involvement.
It's not new. It's exactly the way the Republican party has decided to operate. And yes, they do try to blame others for their own offenses. They never take responsibility, or clean out the log in their own eye.
Really, you think nobody is familiar with what has been going on? You think you can just throw out your spurious misquoting, and not actually be demonstrating the very problem? Hardly. You might as well be chanting about "57" states or "you didn't build that" for all the validity it has.
And with the way the GOP is going, I'd dare them to call snap elections if they could. Well, technically they could, they'd j
Apples are not oranges.
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Nothing is causing the downfall of Swedish culture. Are you stupid enough to believe an article on the daily wire, or are you cynical enough to use any old bullshit to try to justify your claims?
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If Sweden is serious about this, then that means that they expect nothing but zero-emission vehicles on their roads by 2045. Sounds to me like Musk should talk to them about building a Tesla Motors factory there, and maybe another Gigafactory to make batteries, he'd make a killing.
You wasted $1.5B during the 2016 election. You'll need $10B for a breakthrough in 2018 because you offer nothing but systematic racism and sexism, and violence in the streets.
That is what Trump is clamoring about, even now. Yet funnily enough, all Fox News can play is badly edited footage of the Odessa Steps from the Battleship Potempkin. Can't they afford something newer, or did losing the Star Wars rights hurt them?
We don't need Obamacare or Trumpcare. Soon we'll have state-level care, the way it should be.
That is what we have, in case you didn't notice.
So far, they've done little, or less. Meanwhile, what kind of care is Scalise getting? How much are his deductibles?
It'd be really funny if the truth came out about that. They aren't going to mention that people are dying while Congressmen get their rocks off.
The good news as I see it is that private industry and states are getting engaged in reducing CO2 output. I'd much rather see grass-roots "greening" than a Federally-run bureaucracy taxing us and forcing us to make specific decisions WRT energy. The market is more powerful and will do a better and more efficient job than the Federal govt ever could.
Hi. Go fuck yourself.
The soylentnews experiment has been a dismal failure.
Yeah, good luck with your "culture", Sven. lol. You deserve everything you're gonna get.
Here's the easiest way to be carbon-neutral. Whenever you start emitting carbon, find some people in the third world burning wood for fuel, and kill enough of them to compensate for your increase. Problem solved.
In the US, we have a better plan.
First, we put a few hundred coal miners back to work, but we claim to have created 1,000,000 new coal jobs, then we take away workplace protections for the miners, then we take away their healthcare and pensions....
Wait, what was the question?
When you exhale CO2, it consists of the CO2 you breathed in plus carbon from foods you ate. So you're creating more CO2 than you consumed.
Any sufficiently unpopular but cohesive argument is indistinguishable from trolling.
Assuming you're a man, why not help solve the "problem" just a little bit by killing yourself? The rest of us thank you.
Erm... no.
Everything you just said is wrong. Dead wrong.
And no - you do not produce more CO2 than the plants you ate have removed. It's physically impossible for these numbers to ever NOT be identical - because for that to happen, because the laws of physics say you cannot create or destroy matter.
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And is it not men problem? A question for you: what is the common element in all US shootings, recent terrorist attacks in UK (including Finsbury Park) and almost all rapes?
Did you just assume all those peoples' genders, shitlord?
The soylentnews experiment has been a dismal failure.
Ok, I see your point now.
Any sufficiently unpopular but cohesive argument is indistinguishable from trolling.
Your wife must be attracted to beta males.
Since 'alpha male' is euphemism for tosser can you really blame her? Almost all women are turned off by needy blowhards ... though there are female masochists I guess.
Hello. Why do you think people care about your opinion?
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You do, cocksmoker since you took the time to reply.
The soylentnews experiment has been a dismal failure.
No really, why do you think people care about your opinions? You seem like an only child.
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You can reduce carbon emissions, for example the carbon emissions required to create a nuclear power plant can be less than that required to create the power a Nuclear plant would produce over its lifetime, but you are still producing tons upon tons of carbon, An Electric vehicle can prevent a little carbon over its lifespan (biofuel supposedly adds far more carbon than normal gas), but it is still within an order of magnitude. Every lettuce leaf you eat, every steak, every mown front lawn is linked to carbon emissions. Hell from what I understand every fart is greenhouse gasses, Empty African planes filled with buffalo produce more greenhouse gasses than highways and heavy industry, in many countries flatulence is the single highest source of the stuff.
It does not matter how much more carbon efficient you make your society. Even if you reduce emissions by 99%, we are probably still talking billions of tons of carbon emissions. And if history teaches us anything it is that efficiency breeds more use far faster than it saves the resource.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
By this logic internal combustion engines are carbon neutral
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
No, because fossil fuels don't come from plants that were recently alive, and thus the carbon from them was not recently removed from the atmosphere.
In fact, fossil fuels mostly date from the carboniferous period - when the first woody plants evolved, but nothing had yet evolved that could digest wood - so they never rotted, never decomposed and ended up becoming oil and coal instead. At the time, these plants all turning CO2 into oxygen but never decomposing raised the atmospheric oxygen level to around 40% (almost twice what it is now), and created a world where insects and arachnids could grow much bigger than before or since. There was a dragonfly with a 1m wingspan !
It was a very different world. Burning those things now, is inverting that process - from over 300 million years ago.
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