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Sweden Passes Bill To Become Carbon Neutral By 2045 (newscientist.com)

Sweden is the first country to significantly upgrade its carbon ambitions since the Paris accord in 2015. The country has passed a new bill committing to cut its net carbon emissions to zero by 2045. New Scientist reports: The law was drawn up by a cross-party committee and passed with an overwhelming majority in parliament by 254 votes to 41. The legislation establishes an independent Climate Policy Council and requires an action plan to be updated every four years. Sweden had previously committed to becoming carbon neutral by 2050. It already gets 83 per cent of its electricity from nuclear energy and hydropower, having met its 2020 target of 50 per cent renewable energy eight years ahead of schedule. To achieve carbon-neutral status, the country will focus on reducing emissions from transport by increasing the use of biofuels and electric vehicles. It plans to cut domestic emissions by at least 85 per cent, and offset remaining emissions by planting trees or investing in projects abroad.

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  1. Huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Aaaand in the meantime, my country is trying it's darndest (under the current administration and GOP leadership) to move back to coal.

    Woohoo!

    1. Re: Huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They won't succeed. Trump's promises about bringing back coal mining jobs will fail. Those jobs are never coming back because they've been lost to automation. No amount of sabotaging environmental regulations will bring those jobs back.

      Also, much of the actual reduction of carbon pollution falls to the state and local governments. The areas that pollute the most, which are urban areas, tend to have leaders who support environmental regulations. Populous states like California and New York also have leadership that generally favors pro-environment policies. Even the demographics of Texas are shifting and the GOP is losing ground there.

      Trump and the GOP will fail. However, withdrawing from the Paris climate accords have likely spurred on other countries to increase their efforts to reduce carbon pollution.

    2. Re: Huh by aliquis · · Score: 2

      Now you talk about companies not countries right?
      Else it's a joke. May still be.

    3. Re: Huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, automation has played a significant role in the loss of coal jobs. Here's a citation: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/business/coal-jobs-trump-appalachia.html. In order for coal to remain competitive with other forms of energy, mining companies have automated a lot of the mining process. It increases the efficiency of the mining operations while also being far safer. Although natural gas has caused the loss of coal mining jobs in the short term, it's led to increasing automation as coal mining companies attempt to remain competitive. In the longer term, that automation ensures that coal mining jobs will never return. Even if the price of natural gas was to dramatically increase, those coal jobs are lost permanently due to automation.

    4. Re: Huh by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 3, Interesting

      People there are buying cars based on carbon output, not how much bigger your dick is going to get.

      A lot of us don't even bother owning a car. We have this thing called "mass transit"...

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    5. Re: Huh by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      A lot of us don't even bother owning a car. We have this thing called "mass transit"...

      I'm with you. If a powerful car can make one's dick bigger, just imagine what a bus or train will do!

      I wish I still lived in a city that had a good mass transit system. It was a great bargain. Hell, I even met my wife on a bus some decades ago. I am very fond of mass transit, and even more fond of my wife.

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    6. Re: Huh by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      I met my wife when she answered the door at the student hall where I was seeking to sub-let a room. But I rode the bus to get there.

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    7. Re: Huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not only the greens... there have been a brainwashing of people here (and almost anywhere in the world) that anything that uses any type of splitting atoms to generate electricity is really bad, and even worse than coal/oil or anything that actually causes big problems in the world.

      Start getting rid of the actual bad stuff before putting focus on less problematic things.

    8. Re: Huh by silentcoder · · Score: 2

      This is also why the rest of the world has no trouble passing sane gun control laws. The US suffers greatly on account of it's small average dick size. Contrary to popular opinion - even Japanese dicks are bigger.
      Everything is bigger in America - because Americans have the most to compensate for.

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    9. Re:Huh by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      If you look at which country has made the most breakthroughs in efficient lighting, better engines, more power dense batteries that charge faster, biofuels, solar energy, bigger wind turbines, and the manufacturing techniques to make it all happen,
      I would guess that most of the things you mention here you buy from a european company.
      Your claim is basically completely idiotic. Biofuel, we have bio Diesel and Ethanol mix ins since dacades, most car engines are european or japanese, btw. making a super inefficient car engine on par with the rest of the world will give you a 'big number' of efficiency gain, but you win no price with it. Most research papers about solar power come from Germany, which is in Europe. Before China took over the market the biggest producer of Solar Panels, was Germany, which is not in USA ... should I continue?
      Today an american company makes the biggest wind turbine, tomorrow it is an European one. Is that a kind of pissing contest?

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  2. Re:Utterly easy... by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's more like California, if you removed every large town and every city except for LA. 90% of Sweden's population is in the southern third of the state, and the rest has small community and farms in the northern area, mostly along the coast.

    https://www.researchgate.net/p...

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  3. Re: Hahaha! Drink my cum!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    You mean the election in a district where the GOP is down 60,000 votes from November? I'd take that swing nationwide any day of the week. That kind of hit would be crippling even if the Supreme Court does nothing about the partisan gerrymandering and voter suppression.

    Wait till Trumpcare fails. There's a reason they won't even tell their own Senators what is in it.

  4. Re: Accounting tricks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sweden produces no oil, but does "make crap tons of money with fossil fuels".

    Sweden is a net exporter of refined oil products to the tune of 378,000 barrels every day. The oil comes in, is refined, some stays and the rest is sold for quite high profits.

  5. Re:The law should really be titled: Except... by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

    We don't export oil--that'd be the Norwegians. We do export refined petroleum products, but the oil comes from elsewhere.

    But that doesn't fear-monger nearly as well, does it?

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  6. Re: Accounting tricks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    What? Sweden is not and has never been part of NATO, you can't just make up facts.

    Sweden has military cooperation with many countries and has participated in many UN mission together with NATO countries, and occasionally has been under NATO command as well.

    But before relations deteriorated with Russia there were cooperation with them as well. Joint exercises etc.

  7. Re:2045! Just in time... by smallfries · · Score: 2

    Bit of a stretch for you to call it thinking. Racism is more of a reflex.

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  8. Re: Accounting tricks? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

    Bzzzzzzzzzt--WRONG.

    Sweden is most definitely NOT a member of NATO. It is, however, an EU member state:

    After the end of the Cold War, Sweden joined the European Union on 1 January 1995, but declined NATO membership, as well as Eurozone membership following a referendum. It is also a member of the United Nations, the Nordic Council, Council of Europe, the World Trade Organization and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

    Perhaps you're thinking of Norway, which is a member of NATO but isn't part of the EU?

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  9. Re: Accounting tricks? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 3, Funny

    It would help relations considerably if they were better about not letting their subs get spotted nosing around Stockholm Harbour.

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  10. Re:Facts say otherwise by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You should come up here and check out the quality of the environment. Then we can talk about what's "green".

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  11. Re:The law should really be titled: Except... by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    results from all the oil that we export, which is our number one source of revenue for our economy

    What makes you say that? Your own link puts imports of refined petroleum at $4.83B, with exports at $7.22B, for total net exports of $2.84B.

    2% of the economy is serious, but that figure is dwarfed by Packaged Medicaments ($6.22B), Cars ($5.85B), Vehicle Parts ($4.76B) and Telephones ($3.99B) - hardly the number one source of revenue.

    Frankly, I'm surprised armaments isn't on the list. (perhaps hidden in vehicle parts?) I always the Swedish Socialist Utopia was pay for by profits from selling guns for poor people to kill each other with.

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  12. Sweden is cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    This page is created by the company that runs the swedish powergrid
    http://www.svk.se/drift-av-stamnatet/kontrollrummet/
    At the botton you can se live data on the types of energy produced in sweden
    Kärnkraft = Nuclear
    Värmekraft = Heat power (burning wood and the like)
    Ospecificerat = Undefined, for instance oil or electricity pushed back to the grid when trains uses the breaks.
    Vindkraft = wind
    Vattenkraft = Hydro

    The map above (of the entire nordics and baltic area) show how electicity is transported and what the price are in different regions.

  13. Re: Utterly easy... by silentcoder · · Score: 2

    To be fair - the Swedish Empire was, at the time the largest empire in Europe.

    Then again that was during the thirty-years war some 300-odd years ago. It's not been anything like that size since the end of the reformation wars. And even at the height of the Swedish Empire - it ruled only about half of Europe - which is a far cry from all of Eurasia, and it never depopulated the place (at least, not any more than the wars did anyway).

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  14. Re:Passing the buck? by silentcoder · · Score: 2

    They are, in fact, significantly ahead of schedule already. I know we don't usually read the articles here, but at least read the summary ?

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  15. Re:Well, this significantly beats the previous pla by silentcoder · · Score: 2

    Animals and people are already carbon neutral.
    You can't breath our more CO2 than the carbon you've consumed, from plants can not have more carbon than they have previously removed from the atmosphere.

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  16. Carbon output by sjbe · · Score: 2

    No, the coal jobs are being lost to cheap gas - which right now is reducing US carbon output, Paris or no Paris.

    "Reducing"? Not really. Slowing the growth would be more accurate. Natural gas is still a fossil fuel and overall demand is still growing. Emissions remain far higher than is likely to be a good idea. The US will have to do a LOT more than simply swap coal for gas. We are the per-capita biggest polluters in the world and only China exceeds us in total emissions.