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Virgin Mobile Becomes World's First iPhone-Exclusive Carrier, Offers Year of Service For $1 (betanews.com)

BrianFagioli quotes a report via BetaNews: Goodness gracious, Virgin Mobile USA has made quite the bold moves today. The cellular service provider has become the world's first iPhone-exclusive carrier. In other words, it will no longer offer Android at all. Crazy, right? This is through a partnership with Apple, and Virgin will offer many versions of the device, including iPhone 6, 6S, 7, and SE. The craziness doesn't stop there, however, as there is even something much more exciting -- Virgin Mobile USA is offering unlimited talk, text and data for a dollar. No, that is not a typo -- a single buck will get you unlimited everything for up to a year! This is through a new scheme called "Inner Circle."

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  1. Inner Circle? by Cryacin · · Score: 2

    Double Plus Good.

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    1. Re:Inner Circle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And they say apple isnt a cult.

    2. Re:Inner Circle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who the hell is Virgin Mobile? Aren't they just another MVNO reseller and they have absolutely zero real traction in the market of mobile? (They're just a middleman. They can never offer you a discount below what you could get at wholesale prices.)

    3. Re:Inner Circle? by riskkeyesq · · Score: 1

      Stray? Spiff?

    4. Re: Inner Circle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong

    5. Re:Inner Circle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to know what kind of iPhones they are offering. Are they unlocked, global phones or some lame-ass tied to carrier American bullshit?

    6. Re:Inner Circle? by Cederic · · Score: 1

      They operate as a MVNO in the UK and negotiate wholesale prices that my personal usage couldn't hope to achieve. So I get my service through them, including unlimited data, unlimited SMS, unlimited same-network calls and 2500 included minutes of other calls for £16/month.

      I could get it cheaper if I didn't want unlimited data, but not by going wholesale.

      $1/year beats that though, I'll accept. I'm guessing this will give them significantly greater than zero traction in the US market.

    7. Re: Inner Circle? by kurkosdr · · Score: 1

      A company boasting for offering less choice to customers. Less options are good for the customers, I guess, and ignorance is strength.

    8. Re:Inner Circle? by nctritech · · Score: 1

      Virgin phones are generally carrier-locked CDMA phones.

    9. Re:Inner Circle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Virgin Mobile and Boost are owned by Sprint. Cricket is owned by AT&T and Mobile PCS is T-Mobile so it's just the regular big boys churning the butter.

    10. Re:Inner Circle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps they are a MVNO, but I believe tht they are 100% owned by Sprint. In my book that makes them not really a MVNO.

    11. Re:Inner Circle? by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      Who the hell is Virgin Mobile?

      A Slashdot advertising client, apparently.

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    12. Re: Inner Circle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Canada, they are owned by Bell Mobility.

      And here's a fitting thing: after they sold to bell, they lost me and my wife are customers because they were incorrectly claiming it wasn't possible to use a smart phone in my jurisdiction. The same day I went out and got a galaxy captivate.

      Seems the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Still clueless about these smart phone things.

    13. Re:Inner Circle? by tattood · · Score: 1
      From TFA:

      While everything in this deal sounds great, there is one big caveat -- Virgin Mobile USA uses Sprint's network, which is often ranked as the worst in the country. Even for $1, a year of bad coverage may not be worth the savings. You should find out how Sprint's coverage is in your area before making the switch. Also, you must buy a new iPhone -- you cannot bring an existing model to the party.

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  2. Pretty intriguing plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Not surprised they dropped Android. Too much fragmentation and too dependent on the handset manufacturers to keep the install base up to date. A security nightmare waiting to happen to millions of users.

    Charles Bronson runs a tight ship at Virgin. The $1 is quite an eyeopener.

    1. Re:Pretty intriguing plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Er, that would be Sir Richard Branson

      Bronson's been dead for about 14 years now.

    2. Re:Pretty intriguing plan by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      Lighten up Francis, it's a joke.

    3. Re:Pretty intriguing plan by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      Who knows, their service might be as good as Virgin Galactic's.

    4. Re:Pretty intriguing plan by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Charles Bronson runs a tight ship at Virgin. The $1 is quite an eyeopener.

      Commit a crime in his neighborhood, and you will find out how the 'castle doctrine' works.

    5. Re:Pretty intriguing plan by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Does Nathan Fillion show up and slap you around?

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    6. Re:Pretty intriguing plan by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      A carrier should not tie to a phone brand. Being a carrier is to provide a service and as long as the device is conforming to the standards it should not be a problem.

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    7. Re:Pretty intriguing plan by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Charles Bronson is alive and well, and serving a life term in prison. You're thinking of Chuck Norris, for whom it's easy enough to charge $1 for phonecalls, he just picks up and shouts into a random inanimate object, and everyone who he decides needs to hear him gets the message.

    8. Re:Pretty intriguing plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have a Death Wish or something? Chill out, dude!

  3. Wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Be prepared to be locked into a contract that makes you pay back everything anyway

    Who cares

  4. Microsoft Windows exclusivity deals? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't this the same type of deal that got Microsoft in trouble with antitrust laws?

    1. Re: Microsoft Windows exclusivity deals? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are confused. Microsoft was never selling voice or data plans.

  5. GIMME CRACK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    As said by that Chappelle character.

  6. "For up to a year" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this don't set the BS alarm I don't know what would.

    Inner Circle must be some sort of piramid scheme. Probably you need to convince friends and family to go to Virgin and shit like that.

  7. Yeah, right only $1 by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Informative

    But if you read TFA it says (my emphasis)

    "Buy an iPhone and get six months of unlimited talk, text and data on Virgin Mobile's nationwide network for only $1 when you join the 'Inner Circle.' Additionally, customers who sign up by Monday, July 31 will receive a promotional offer of 12 months of service for just $1," says Virgin Mobile USA.

    Unless iPhones are being given away then it's a bit more than $1. Also as per TFA .. it's Sprint's network for better or worse. Plus after the promo it's $50/month.

    Soooooo .. basically it's another click bait article.

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    1. Re:Yeah, right only $1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, if the two things can only be had together, then the "individual" prices are a bit meaningless, but the face value is what it is. Antway Apple will be paying pretty big kickbacks on each iPhone sold to subsidise this, and they hope it will pay off by getting a pretty big bunch of potential Android users on the Apple teat.

    2. Re:Yeah, right only $1 by sl3xd · · Score: 2

      Unless iPhones are being given away then it's a bit more than $1.

      I'm not sure if you've looked lately, but you can't get a new, subsidized iPhone from any major carrier in the US.

      This is of historical interest to me, though: I used to use Virgin Mobile a decade ago. I left mainly because Sprint's network is lousy in my area.

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    3. Re:Yeah, right only $1 by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I've been on it for over 10 years and Sprint works fine in cities. It drops out quick in rural areas. Urban jungle is well covered in most cases.

    4. Re:Yeah, right only $1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That reminds me of free shipping through Amazon Prime which only costs me $99/year. I don't understand why free things cost money?

    5. Re:Yeah, right only $1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also as per TFA .. it's Sprint's network for better or worse.

      Worse than that, it is ONLY Sprint's network. Forgive me if I'm using the wrong terms here, but the peering agreements between networks does not extend to the virtual network operators. So a Sprint phone has competitive coverage because it has transit agreements with other networks, but a Virgin Mobile phone struggles for bars in populated areas of New York because it can only operate on Sprint's nodes.

      I finally ditched Virgin a few years ago when I moved to Tarrytown NY because it didn't work in the office and kept cutting out on the train (not just underground). I wish I had some better choices between "affordable but barely works" and "needs another line item on your monthly budget but you can actually use it".

    6. Re:Yeah, right only $1 by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      But these iPhones you have to pay for up front - at retail prices (except for the discontinued models).

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    7. Re:Yeah, right only $1 by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      The click-bait part is the least of its problems.

      It's a very transparent advertisement. The new Slashdot owners/editors have basically given up. It's like they don't even try to pretend the headlines are genuine anymore.

    8. Re:Yeah, right only $1 by Puls4r · · Score: 1

      Actually - sprint's coverage inside buildings suffers too around here - especially compared to Verizon. I nearly cried when I took my 5 lines at about $40 / month on Sprint and moved to Verizon when I saw the first bill. But being able to actually use those phones all the time - anywhere I go, and still get decent speeds has been more than worth it.

    9. Re: Yeah, right only $1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I went with T-Mobile and coverage is quite decent everywhere except Montana Wyoming north Nebraska... and it is getting better now. Truck driver here so not much inner city experience.

    10. Re:Yeah, right only $1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They would have to have made an effort before giving up. The new owners/staff just feed any crap to generate eyeballs, and there are a fair few adverts disguised as "news". /. has always been slow and gets most of it's traffic from flame-bait political shit, but when they're merely posting old reddit/bbc articles under the guise of "an anonymous reader writes"...

    11. Re:Yeah, right only $1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because America, fuck yeah!

  8. Throw in an actual virgin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I sign up today

    1. Re: Throw in an actual virgin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      K, you get a LOL player that you will never see because he doesn't understand the nonbasement world.

    2. Re: Throw in an actual virgin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But you are the actual virgin

    3. Re:Throw in an actual virgin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is what the selfie camera on your iPhone is for.

    4. Re:Throw in an actual virgin... by pecosdave · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're surrounded by those here on Slashdot as it is.....

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  9. Oooh the irony by mccalli · · Score: 2

    Virgin Mobile in the UK spent a good while trying to persuade me not to get an iPhone a few years back, because they didn't carry it or support it. I was interested in their four service bundle (internet, TV, home phone, mobile) at the time as well.

    Still irritating to me that so few carriers in the UK fully support the iPhone - am specifically thinking Visual Voicemail here, and also native wifi calling as opposed to "here - download our horrible underdeveloped and intrusive app instead!". It was the O2 god-awful app (TuGo?) that finally pushed me off that network after having been on since the launch of the iPhone 3GS.

    1. Re:Oooh the irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Decompile the horrible underdeveloped and intrusive app to get the SIP server details, and dig around in the data it has saved to get your account details if you don't know them already. Then set up the native SIP config yourself.

    2. Re: Oooh the irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      O2 has wifi calling now

    3. Re:Oooh the irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Virgin Mobile USA is wholly owned by Sprint. They bought out Virgin Mobile's shares years ago.

  10. In similar news... by know1 · · Score: 1

    Slashdot Becomes World's First iPhone-Exclusive News Site, Offers Year of Shilling (For Free).

    1. Re:In similar news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not for a shilling?

    2. Re:In similar news... by sl3xd · · Score: 2

      I don't know... it's vaguely interesting to see any carrier dumping every brand except one these days.

      I can't help but wonder if it's just cheaper/easier for Virgin Mobile to reduce their overhead by going with one manufacturer -- they don't have to worry about juggling OS updates, etc. between multiple manufacturers & models.

      I'm sure it's more complicated than that, but there is a value in having a narrower range of hardware & software to support.

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    3. Re:In similar news... by youngone · · Score: 1
      Virgin Mobile don't supply any OS updates for any phones.

      That is the job of the phone manufacturer, so the only saving Virgin will be making is a tiny one in managing their stock of iPhones.

    4. Re:In similar news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worth it to get rid of all the idiotic bitcoin stories on the front page.

    5. Re:In similar news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When a company is going down the tubes it's not unusual to see them making several stupid decisions. After all, if they always made good decisions, they wouldn't be going down.

  11. Free Lunch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it sounds too good to be true, it's because it is. If you can't figure out how they're making money, it's because they are selling you/your data to someone else.

    1. Re: Free Lunch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hardly a free lunch when you have to buy an iPhone retail price and get stuck in $50/month fees after the discount period.

  12. Anybody seen Samuel L. Jackson around lately?

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    1. Re:Uh oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but this is Sprint we're talking about. The number of people killed by the things will be a blip on the radar in cities like Chicago or Los Angeles.

      (For foreigners, Sprint is a CDMA carrier that whitelists phones, so you can't just bring any phone you want to their network. Even Verizon has started to open up.)

  13. Incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You understand that the carrier provides service to a SIM, right? iPhone, Android, Toaster, etc it doesn't matter.

    A carrier does not provide handsets, nor does it have any job regulating what handsets attach to the network, besides specifying having passed certain radio and radio protocol certification lab testing.

    Even if a cell phone company is selling you a phone, you should never buy it.

    1. Re:Incorrect by avandesande · · Score: 4, Informative

      Obviously you are not familiar with CDMA phones.

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    2. Re:Incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. They don't call it "CDMAIDS" for nothing...

    3. Re:Incorrect by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

      You understand that the carrier provides service to a SIM, right? iPhone, Android, Toaster, etc it doesn't matter.

      No they don't. Some American networks do not use SIM cards. Look up CDMA.

      A carrier does not provide handsets, nor does it have any job regulating what handsets attach to the network, besides specifying having passed certain radio and radio protocol certification lab testing.

      Yes they do. There's a reason that there's two models of Galaxy S7 for the world (single SIM and dual SIM), and yet 7 models specifically for the USA (SM-G930V,
      SM-G930A, SM-G930AZ, SM-G930P, SM-G930T, SM-G930R4, SM-G930U), and only one of these models has a SIM card. Take a guess which one. To prizes for guessing V stands for Verizon, A for AT&T, T for T-mobile etc.

      Even if a cell phone company is selling you a phone, you should never buy it.

      Why not? You just finished telling us how portable they all are and how easily we can just throw in a SIM whenever we want.

    4. Re:Incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are aware Sprint (and thus Virgin Mobile) is GSM, right?

    5. Re:Incorrect by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Founded in 2001 as a joint venture between Virgin Group and Sprint Corporation, Virgin Mobile USA commenced operations in June 2002 as a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO), providing services via the Sprint 1900 MHz CDMA network. In 2008, Virgin Mobile USA acquired post-paid services provider Helio, Inc. In 2009, Sprint Nextel bought out joint venture partner Virgin Group, becoming the sole owner of Virgin Mobile USA.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Mobile_USA

      You AC's always are good at reaffirming your good decision making skills!

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    6. Re:Incorrect by joemck · · Score: 1

      Most modern CDMA phones *do* use SIMs because they use LTE. I believe the SIMs are just as swappable as normal GSM ones.

      However, SIMs can be locked to phones and phones can be locked to SIMs. The most restrictive arrangement I've seen was on my old GSM Tracfone. Put its SIM in another phone and it comes up as corrupted or unrecognized. Put another SIM in the Tracfone and it rejects it without a way to enter an unlock code. The reason for this is that some of Tracfone's minute accounting seemed to be done on the phone itself, so they required special firmware on the phone. (Since then they have started allowing non-customized devices on their network and offering BYOD SIM kits, so they've obviously reworked whatever was requiring heavily customized firmware.)

      I have no idea if Virgin is doing anything restrictive like this to keep other phones off their network. My point is merely that it's possible to lock things down this much in a SIM based system.

  14. Thank goodness I dumped VM by avandesande · · Score: 1

    I was on Virgin Mobile for years as they were one of the first inexpensive pre-paid carriers. Over time they kind of boiled-frogged me to higher and higher (ie more expensive) tiers.

    Just switched to usmobile and am now paying 12$ month for similar service.

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  15. Greatest scam ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is the greatest scam ever! They sell you a year of service and an iPhone for one price, then the service doesn't work so they refund your $1 and you can not even take the iPhone elsewhere.

    I used to be a VM customer. Shudder.

    1. Re:Greatest scam ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the greatest scam ever! They sell you a year of service and an iPhone for one price, then the service doesn't work so they refund your $1 and you can not even take the iPhone elsewhere.

      It will all get better once T-Mobile buys Sprint. Synergies, and all that.

  16. I left Virgin Mobile years ago for Ting . . . by msk · · Score: 1

    . . . and I won't go back.

    Superior service and lower cost are why I went with Ting. Leaving VM was a big hassle, too, as they didn't appear to have their people (few of whom were anywhere near my time zone) trained properly.

    Still with Ting, who doesn't care which device I use.

    1. Re:I left Virgin Mobile years ago for Ting . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Receive SMS spam on Ting? Ting says, "Not our problem, 1-100 SMS per month costs $3, please." So, everyone on Ting is hit with a $3 charge SMS fee automatically.

      As for data rates, Ting charges $16 for one measly gigabyte. That, with the SMS, and a gracious 100 minutes of talk, plus taxes and "other" fees and you are at $30 for a very basic metered plan.

      Ting is not such a great deal unless you never ever use your device.

    2. Re:I left Virgin Mobile years ago for Ting . . . by Cederic · · Score: 1

      You pay to receive SMS? That's fucked up.

    3. Re:I left Virgin Mobile years ago for Ting . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Receive SMS spam on Ting? Ting says, "Not our problem, 1-100 SMS per month costs $3, please." So, everyone on Ting is hit with a $3 charge SMS fee automatically.

      As for data rates, Ting charges $16 for one measly gigabyte. That, with the SMS, and a gracious 100 minutes of talk, plus taxes and "other" fees and you are at $30 for a very basic metered plan.

      Ting targets a specific market. It works for me - but I have music on my phone (not streamed), have WiFi at home and work, use offline maps, and tend not to use SMS for IMs. So I don't even hit 500MB and my overall bill is $25 or $35/mo.

      The budget VMNOs tend to cater to specific markets. If Ting doesn't work for your phone usage, then there's always others, like Republic or Google Fi.

      The trick is figuring out how you use your device, then finding a VMNO that minimizes your bill. It's simple budget hacking. Figure out what you're willing to pay for the phone in your pocket each month, including amortized phone cost. I'm currently at $40/mo. That figure probably needs to be revisited with my next phone upgrade (I'm thinking $30-35/mo should be my new target), but it works for me. You may be willing to pay more or less.

  17. VirgonMobile USA: Please Unlock My Android by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    I have an Android Galaxy J3 on Virgin Mobile. My monthly charge recently was reduced to $35 for unlimited voice and about 4G of data. It's a reasonable plan that I hope to continue.

    If Virgin is going to stop supporting my hardware, I hope that they will unlock it so I can use it on another carrier.

    1. Re:VirgonMobile USA: Please Unlock My Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you bought the phone through Virgin it shouldn't be locked at all.

  18. The cellular service provider has become the world's first iPhone-exclusive carrier. In other words, it will no longer offer Android at all.

    And guess who I won't be signing up with, at all.

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    1. Re:LOL by nctritech · · Score: 1

      I have them and generally have been happy with their service...but it looks like it's porting time. Pity because they have always given me good service and the CSRs seem to be decent. No Android? No customer.

    2. Re:LOL by Mordaximus · · Score: 1

      I have them and generally have been happy with their service...but it looks like it's porting time. Pity because they have always given me good service and the CSRs seem to be decent. No Android? No customer.

      From what I can tell, they are only selling iPhones. You could quite likely bring your own (non Apple) device. Of course, not sure what incentive there would be to do so.

    3. Re:LOL by nctritech · · Score: 1

      Virgin requires that you buy Virgin-only phones. I found out yesterday that existing customers can keep buying new Android stuff but NEW customers will be forced into buying obnoxiously overpriced iPhones. I'm still tempted to leave them on principle.

  19. Not Exclusive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have an unlimited month to month plan with Virgin; I just got off the phone with their representative who said "no sir, you're confused. We're offering a new plan but your old service and old phone are going to work just fine. You have nothing to worry about."

    It's possible their representative didn't know for sure, but I'd damn sure trust the over the FUD we see here.

    1. Re: Not Exclusive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You get to choose between clickbait and dishonest/incompetent sales reps.

      This reminds me of a recent election.

  20. Not worth it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iPhone... 1$ a year.. Overpriced.

    1. Re: Not worth it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually a jail broken iPhone is every bit as good as a rooted android phone. Only in the default state is an iPhone dumb

  21. Sounds incredibly illegal by holophrastic · · Score: 1

    Last time I checked, big telecom companies aren't allowed to lose money on their services. That's anti-competitive, and it's illegal, around here anyway.

    1. Re:Sounds incredibly illegal by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      If the telco does that well enough they go out of business. Problem solved.

      Somehow, somewhere they'll have to make money.

    2. Re:Sounds incredibly illegal by holophrastic · · Score: 1

      If they are big enough, they could keep it up long enough to destroy smaller telcos. That's the problem. And that's why it's illegal.

    3. Re:Sounds incredibly illegal by joemck · · Score: 1

      "Somehow, somewhere they'll have to make money."
      Yes. They'll make money off you when you first buy the iPhone through them, and then again after a year when you start paying $50 a month for service. The $1 is an introductory offer.

      "If the telco does that well enough they go out of business. Problem solved."
      The fear is that they'll do it and eat the losses until all viable competitors go under. Then they're a monopoly and are free to charge sky high-prices for bottom-of-the-barrel service, because your only other choice is no phone at all.

    4. Re:Sounds incredibly illegal by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      Sky-high prices which, in turn, give room for competitors to undercut their prices. At least, that's how it works in a free economy.

  22. Not $1. It is $601 dollars by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Informative

    First a rant. If only we could vote this trashastroturf off the front by page of slashdot . You have to join the $50/mo circle plan. The linked article is just some click site.

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  23. When will they cancel current plans ? by csmithers · · Score: 1

    Anyone know when they will cancel the current android service ?

    1. Re:When will they cancel current plans ? by dcavanaugh · · Score: 1

      Probably when the last Android phone on their network stops working. They can push as hard as they want to incentivize new customers to purchase iPhones, but they aren't going to give up the monthly revenue they get from their existing base, which is mostly Android.

      In the past, VM has introduced new phone technology (like 4G) with corresponding new plans. Each time, they grandfathered the existing base. I had a $25/month plan with a 3G phone, which they honored until I wanted to buy a 4G phone, at which point I had to get the $35 plan. I expect to keep my $35 plan until I need a new phone, at which point I get an iPhone on their new $50 plan, or an Android phone on some other network.

      Amazon has been selling VM phones for years, usually offering a better selection and better pricing than buying the exact same phone in the exact same box from VM. I predict that Amazon will continue to sell VM Android phones, and VM will continue to activate them, until the inventory is exhausted. If they follow past practices, even new customers should be able to get VM Android phones on Amazon and activate them on VM.

  24. Useless Article by hoofie · · Score: 2

    Yet another stunningly useless Article

  25. Meanwhile Sprint offers 1 year FREE unlimited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And /without/ needing to join a $50/mo plan, or finance an iPhone. You can bring your own cheap Moto G Play or similar. You only pay a few bucks in taxes/fees some of which get credited back if you do auto-pay. The main catch is you have to be a current customer of another postpaid carrier, bring a Sprint compatible phone, and port in your number. I guess the goal here is to steal customers from the competition. In my area Sprint coverage is as good or better than Verizon or AT&T so I've ported two phones over already and am considering doing two more (but it would mean I need to first re-activate them on a competitors network before I can port them to Sprint, which is a pain and causes another credit pull). Some people claim to have had luck porting pre-paid lines, but the rep flat out told me no, so YMMV. For reference sprint.com/1yearfree if you missed it.

    1. Re:Meanwhile Sprint offers 1 year FREE unlimited by torkus · · Score: 1

      AFAIK, Virgin Mobile is an MVNO for Sprint anyhow.

      So while this is a deal, it's quite literally the same thing that the ACTUAL carrier is doing anyway ... with the added 'bonus' of being forced to buy a new locked phone.

      It's going to get Sprint a whole lot of new service and likely overwhelm their network. The difference is, with Sprint, it's way easier to get in and get out since you can BYO Phone. Well, until a year from now when Sprint is overwhelmed by port-outs.

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  26. unlimited calls etc. by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    ..with a very limited circle.

    and you'll buy the phone for 123423 bucks or some shit like that.

    and being american, the data is sure as fuck not going to be unlimited - plus are they just fucking going to ban androids? I guess it would work if they were only allowing phones sold by them. you wouldn't get away with one dollar though. more like paying 40 bucks for the phone per month and 1 for service..

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  27. Export AppleSim to simcard, how long? by jago25_98 · · Score: 1

    So how long is it going to be before people figure out how to get the 'sim' out, load it into a cheap Android phone and then sell it to a Chinese guy who sells the iPhone on at triple profit?

    1. Re:Export AppleSim to simcard, how long? by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 1

      As pointed out elsewhere in the thread... Virgin is a CDMA network. There's likely an LTE SIM card involved which could theoretically work on another phone just for the LTE data stream... but here's the kicker to that: On CDMA the phone's hard-coded IMEI and ESN is authorized to the tower first, then the LTE SIM is authenticated and data is allowed to flow. Without that authorization to the phone, there's no data connection allowed.

      This is unlike GSM where the ID SIM ( most often separate from the LTE SIM but can be contained in the same card on occasion) can be moved from phone to phone and the tower only authenticates to the card, not the phone; thus allowing an easy change from phone to phone on a whim.

  28. Seasonality by CODiNE · · Score: 1

    Selling Android phones keeps mobile sellers fluid in the months before the new iPhone comes out.

    They're going to have a rubber banding sales pattern after this.

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