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'You're Doing Your Weekend Wrong' (qz.com)

"If you don't feel rejuvenated and keen to face Monday after two work-free days, there might be a reason: You're doing your weekend wrong," an anonymous reader writes, citing a Quartz article. From the article: According to University of Calgary sociologist Robert Stebbins, most leisure falls into two categories: casual and serious. Casual leisure pursuits are short lived, immediately gratifying, and often passive; they include activities like drinking, online shopping, and binge-watching. These diversions provide instant hedonic pleasure -- quite literally, actually, as all these pastimes cause the brain to release dopamine and provide instant soothing comfort. In a culture where many people exist all week in an amped-up, overworked state, casual weekend leisure easily becomes the default for quick decompression.

But serious leisure is a far more beneficial pursuit. Serious leisure activities provide deeper fulfillment, and -- to invoke a fuzzy '70s word -- "self-actualization." Self-actualization is the pinnacle of human development, according to humanist psychologist Abraham Maslow, who describes it as "the desire to become more and more what one is, to become everything that one is capable of becoming." In other words, getting self-actualized is the whole point of life, and passive, hedonistic leisure (fun and occasionally necessary as it might be) won't get you there. Instead, the weekend goal should be "eudaimonic" happiness, which is a sense of well-being that arises from meaningful, challenging activities that cause you to grow as a person. This means spending the weekend on serious leisure activities that require the regular refinement of skills: your barbershop-quartet singing, your stamp collecting, or slightly less dorky, but still equally in-depth, projects. You pursue serious leisure with the earnest tenor of a professional, even if the pursuit is amateur.

147 comments

  1. How does a typical Slashdot reader compare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The typical Slashdot reader spends his weekend in his parents basement watching tentacle hentai and touching himself relentlessly. The only breaks are for sleep, using the bathroom, and calling up to his mother for more Cheetos. How does this fit into the two categories described in the article? Discuss.

    1. Re:How does a typical Slashdot reader compare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sounds like you have a lot of experience.

    2. Re: How does a typical Slashdot reader compare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bathroom breaks? What do you think the orange juice bottles are for?

    3. Re:How does a typical Slashdot reader compare? by blindseer · · Score: 2

      I spend my weekends in my own basement, thankyouverymuch.

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    4. Re:How does a typical Slashdot reader compare? by ls671 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course my beloved dear, I always told you the basement was yours.
      -your mother

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    5. Re:How does a typical Slashdot reader compare? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      The typical Slashdot reader spends his weekend in his parents basement

      If you RTFA you will see that it is based on 100% conjecture, and 0% actual evidence. So I am not coming upstairs until you give me a good reason why I should.

    6. Re:How does a typical Slashdot reader compare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The typical Slashdot reader spends his weekend in his parents basement watching tentacle hentai and touching himself relentlessly. The only breaks are for sleep, using the bathroom, and calling up to his mother for more Cheetos. How does this fit into the two categories described in the article? Discuss.

      Sounds like you are becoming all that you can be.

    7. Re: How does a typical Slashdot reader compare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait. Eating Cheetos and using orange juice bottles for bathroom breaks?

      Don't drink the "orange juice".

    8. Re: How does a typical Slashdot reader compare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No us nerds have become super efficient. All we need is cheetos and our body does the rest. Eat cheetos -> piss -> drink -> cheetos.

      We have adapted over the years to be self sufficient. Now with soylent, the cycle is complete.

    9. Re:How does a typical Slashdot reader compare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The typical Slashdot reader spends his weekend in his parents basement

      Speak for yourself. I live in the office, my pizza is delivered here, and when I need to sleep I unroll my travel mattress under the desk.

      watching tentacle hentai and touching himself relentlessly

      No arguments with the rest of your post, however...

  2. Other way around by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It could also be that you're doing your week wrong, and you have no energy left to do anything sensible in your spare time. Are you working to live, or living to work?

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    1. Re:Other way around by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      I understand what you're saying and in my own carreer I'm able to balance it more towards earning less and having more fun, but this isn't an option for the vast majority of people. Think of all those dozens of coal miners whose jobs have been saved for a few more years; you really think they have the option of just taking another job or working shorter weeks while still making enough money to support their family?

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    2. Re:Other way around by Kjella · · Score: 2

      It could also be that you're doing your week wrong, and you have no energy left to do anything sensible in your spare time. Are you working to live, or living to work?

      I'd say many people don't have the energy, but they do it anyway exactly because it's the weekend they live for. If the weekend was only rest and relaxation to recoup Monday would be so much easier but life would be work, rest, work, rest, work, rest. Quite often when I feel more exhausted Monday morning than Friday afternoon that was part of the plan. Much like a hangover I might not like it very much then and there, but there's a reason I was drinking the night before.

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    3. Re:Other way around by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      The logical answer is to spend your energy taking up torches and pitchforks and demanding that your government provide what it's supposed to. Unfortunately, not enough people think that they're having a problem for that to actually work. You need a whole mob, not a handful of assholes with farm implements standing at the gates to the white house.

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    4. Re:Other way around by ls671 · · Score: 2

      It could also be the overdose of booze taken over the week-end.

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    5. Re: Other way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What is the government supposed to provide, according to the Constitution, that it's not?

    6. Re: Other way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The constitution is not the be-all and end-all of what the government should do.

      The government is supposed to be working on your behalf. You should be telling them what to do and they should listen. This doesn't mean they should do what you ask, as they have the same responsibility to all the other citizens as well, but they should at least consider it, and do what is best for the country as a whole. Not just what is best for the few rich elites.

    7. Re: Other way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is the constitution so holy that all moral values must flow from it? The constitution reflects the mores of a time long past.
      A government is by the people and for the people. It should not single out any group or individual, either positive or negative.
      Perhaps a government should take care that there are no such things as "below the poverty line" and "ultra wealthy".
      No human deserves to live in poverty nor has earned the right to have more money than an average medium-sized city.
      Socialism is bad; effort should be rewarded, but no man can claim to put in 1,000 times more effort than even the laziest moron.

    8. Re: Other way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A framework of a functioning society.

    9. Re: Other way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corporations are also people so the government IS listening to people. Right?

    10. Re:Other way around by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 0

      In a sane country, yes.
      In the US, likely not so much.

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    11. Re: Other way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's supposed to "promote the general welfare". By removing health coverage from millions of citizens it's doing the opposite.

    12. Re: Other way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. I easily put in 1,000 more hours of actual work per year than my deadbeat brother who collects welfare while he plays online games in my dad's basement.

    13. Re:Other way around by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 2

      The logical answer is to spend your energy taking up torches and pitchforks

      Torches do almost no damage at all, and the pitchfork is a pathetic two hander. You can rack up XP using it but almost anything else you can get from a drop has more power.

    14. Re: Other way around by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.. At least at the Federal level, the Constitution IS the be-all AND the end-all (explicitly so - see above) of what the Federal Government should - and can - do.

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    15. Re: Other way around by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      So: what should the income cap be? How wealthy is a person allowed to be? Please - just give a ballpark number.

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    16. Re:Other way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2 days is not enough after an intense work week in tech, or any other industry.

      Saturday = doing all the shit I need to get done that I cant get done during the week because I'm at work. Sunday, why bother starting to do anything, tomorrow is Monday, it just turns into another thing I have to jam into a day.

      When there are 3 day weekends, I feel like I've had a break - long enough to get stuff done, long enough to unwind a bit, and do some other things.

    17. Re: Other way around by Jesus+H+Rolle · · Score: 1

      Or a blessed greased rustproof +7 dwarvish mattock.

    18. Re: Other way around by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

    19. Re: Other way around by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      A more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

      It could do a better job of a couple of those.

    20. Re: Other way around by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      I think whisperfeet should fall under the 2nd amendment's protection.

  3. Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Robert Stebbins works as a sociologist so I can understand his need to pursue valuable activities over the weekend, because he's sure as hell not doing anything of value during the week. However, for people with careers that allow them to do valuable, challenging work in the week, I think it's better to have a relax on the weekend.

    1. Re:Bullshit by dbIII · · Score: 1

      sociologist so I can understand his need to pursue valuable activities over the weekend, because he's sure as hell not doing anything of value during the week

      As distinct from ... office work?
      Come on AC, how many people here do you think are surgeons or in the fire brigade? Farmers have a right to sneer at most of us for not doing useful work.

    2. Re:Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol! His field deals with people interactions! PEOPLE! He's not a -real- scientist. Nothing he researches is valuable! Lol!

    3. Re:Bullshit by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      However, for people with careers that allow them to do valuable, challenging work in the week, I think it's better to have a relax on the weekend.

      Likely true, but that's a tiny fraction of the population.

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    4. Re:Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second this. Whenever I have a "serious" weekend, I always always always feel like I need an extra "do nothing" day before going back to work.

    5. Re:Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      on this particular case, the study is completely worthless and your opinion is even more so

  4. Giong to work for a rest by petes_PoV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "If you don't feel rejuvenated and keen to face Monday after two work-free days, there might be a reason: You're doing your weekend wrong,"

    But it's far more likely that if you feel tired when returning to work, it is because you spent the whole weekend partying.

    And if not burning the candle at both ends, then chasing around after your children: taxiing them all over the place, shopping, cleaning, tidying, doing laundry, home maintenance, cooking and walking the dog.

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    1. Re:Giong to work for a rest by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For many of us, the weekend is the time when we do all the non-job work that we couldn't get done during the week—laundry, home repairs, personal projects, correcting people on the Internet, etc.

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    2. Re:Giong to work for a rest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For many of us, the weekend is the time when we do all the non-job work that we couldn't get done during the week—laundry, home repairs, personal projects, correcting people on the Internet, etc.

      Yep to the point where I have to try to make Sunday the day where I really do nothing so that I actually do come into work on Monday rested instead of already tired.

    3. Re:Giong to work for a rest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Why are you cooking your dog?
      2) How do you walk something after you've cooked it?

    4. Re:Giong to work for a rest by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      I prefer Saturday, because then I know I don't have to worry about getting up super early the next day.

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  5. Jesus... by lobiusmoop · · Score: 1

    Talk about taking the whole 'self improvement' thing too far. The weekend should come with a WTFPL licence.

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  6. Sociologist getting his published paper number up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TL;DR: People need stamp collections like they need a hole in their head.

  7. You're sucking my dick wrong. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Serious leisure activities provide deeper fulfillment, and -- to invoke a fuzzy '70s word -- "self-actualization."

    If I had time and money to get serious about leisure activities, I wouldn't be working. If I wasn't working, I'd have time to get serious about leisure activities, but I wouldn't have the money. If I earned the money I needed to build the facilities I'd need to go all professional at my leisure activities, I wouldn't have the time.

    I don't feel lesser because I'm not going professional with my leisure. If I did, it would be a job, and it wouldn't be a fun distraction any more.

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    1. Re:You're sucking my dick wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The kind of leisure activiities they are talking about don't need much money.

    2. Re:You're sucking my dick wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Clearly you've never tried stamp collecting as suggested in the summary.

  8. Life's Goal by Calydor · · Score: 4, Funny

    My goal in life is to BE a passive hedonist, you insensitive clod!

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  9. Kids by cerberusss · · Score: 5, Funny

    "If you don't feel rejuvenated and keen to face Monday after two work-free days, there might be a reason: You're doing your weekend wrong,"

    That, or you have kids.

    Instead, the weekend goal should be "eudaimonic" happiness

    No, the goal should be to buy condoms and build a time machine.

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    1. Re:Kids by c · · Score: 1

      Instead, the weekend goal should be "eudaimonic" happiness

      No, the goal should be to buy condoms and build a time machine.

      Good idea. Building a time machine sounds exactly like the sort of goal that would bring "eudaimonic" happiness.

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    2. Re:Kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> No, the goal should be to buy condoms and build a time machine.

      But not in that exact order... right?

    3. Re:Kids by johannesg · · Score: 1

      No, the goal should be to buy condoms and build a time machine.

      Not having to worry about sex is just one of the many advantages of the nerd lifestyle!

    4. Re:Kids by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Not having to worry about sex is just one of the many advantages of the nerd lifestyle!

      The ultimate Asperger life-style though is of course to dedicate your whole life to it but not get anything of it.

    5. Re:Kids by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That, or you have kids.

      Definitely, this.

      Weekends are a completely different thing with small children. From birth until early teens, you can likely expect to lose a lot of weekend time to activities related to childcare (playing with them, cleaning up after them, ferrying them to various activities, etc.). Combine that with basic stuff you HAVE to do -- like cleaning up the house in general, home maintenance, etc. -- and weekends are often gone.

      Well, unless you want to be that dad who spends every weekend in his study with his stamp collection or building a ship in a bottle and yelling at his little kids to "go away" when they bother him. And you'll need a cooperative spouse (or hire a nanny).

      Sure, you can incorporate kids (even little kids once they're at least toddlers) in a lot of weekend maintenance and such, but be prepared for everything to take twice as long. Once they get older, you can often incorporate them into a hobby like woodworking or some other craft activity, but that may or may not be as satisfying as devoting your own time to honing your own skills.

      It's great and all to talk about "self actualization" on the weekends, and I did a lot of that in my spare time on the weekends in my 20s. Then "life happened." Once kids hit their teens, you may be able to reclaim more time for your weekend leisure. But a lot of people spend many years of their adult lives with lots of weekend responsibilities they can't get out of. You can't really blame them for taking the few hours of "downtime" they end up with and sitting in front of the TV or whatever.

    6. Re: Kids by tandavanadesan · · Score: 1

      But you'd only have time to do this if you succeed. Then if you succeed you wouldn't have the need

    7. Re:Kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kids are one of those "eudaimonic self-actualizing hobbies" that they're talking about. Sometimes you choose the hobby, and sometimes the hobby chooses you.

    8. Re: Kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So why don't you just give them away? I'm sure there are families where they will be appreciated more

    9. Re:Kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. People with children take them for granted and complain about the burdens of being a parent all the time, but the improvement to their mental health and life-satisfaction is obvious. It was easy to give this a pass in 50s America where anyone could have kids, but now it's not so easy. Many people feel they can't afford children because they will be bad parents if they can't provide the resources they had in their own childhoods. Feminism has told women they're bad liberals and not full adults if they don't have-it-all, and has turned masculinity into a toxic realm of bogeymen and double-binds, and between the two things nobody is willing to commit to a partner and eventually becomes so old they're infertile. People are positively frantic, meanwhile these parents keep complaining, "I'm so exhausted chasing around my many brilliant beautiful children and playing with them and teaching things." yeah, that must be hard. I know how much you loved those stamps. That's why I don't have children: stamps.

    10. Re:Kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given how much time, effort, and money children require, I have to wonder why men have children. It's a handicap on your assets for 20+ years, a reduction in personal time, more stress, and the hard part of teaching someone else how to be an adult. On top of that, you better stay with the mother or she'll fuck your finances up for the next 20 years or more if alimony is involved.

      Where's the payoff? Pride when they succeed? Shame and despair when they fail? I'm serious, there's no economic reason to have a child. But I'd like to understand why people think it's worth all that trouble.

    11. Re:Kids by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      Because some people like their kids? Some people enjoy spending time with them, teaching them things? Because some people -- dare I say -- LOVE their kids?

      When i was younger, I couldn't imagine having kids. Now I can't imagine life had I not.

      Many males (and even many females) don't enjoy their time raising kids or being with small children in general. Many others do. My previous post wasn't saying that kids are a negative experience, merely pointing out that one has a lot less flexibility about choices for one's weekend activities when they are present. But people choose constraints in their lives all the time for overall benefit. Some days you may not want to play on that sports team you signed up for, or go to the soup kitchen you volunteered for -- but overall, the days when you feel good about participating in something that structures and constrains your time outweigh the times you don't want to do it. Same thing with kids for many people -- there are lots of negatives depending on your perspective, but many would say the positives outweigh the negatives.

    12. Re:Kids by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      Arguing with a smaller version of yourself that YES, they have to wipe the poop from their butt for the 6th time that week is "eudaimonic self-actualizing"?

      Reading how Pete the Cat thinks it's cool to lose a race in an ritalin induced haze for the 3rd time in a row is "eudaimonic self-actualizing"?

      Getting yelled at, kicked, and hated because you couldn't make the rain stop is self-actualizing? (Hey, even when you tell them no, and give them time-outs, they're still going to throw a tantrum here and there. They're THREE. Remember; terrible two's, terrorist threes.)

      I mean, I kinda get what you're saying, but the payoff takes DECADES to get to, and there's a lot of shit to go through on the way there.

  10. self whackualization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I am lucky that I can bring my leisure hobby with me wherever I go. Be it at work, home, or even a baseball game, I can always take a few moments to enjoy masturbation.

    1. Re:self whackualization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Giving a new meaning to the term "spit balls"

  11. Board games ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Board games !

  12. Yes! by demon+driver · · Score: 3, Interesting

    More hard, goal-driven work even on the weekend! That's what we need!

    No. For a person who's already got a somewhat strenuous full-time job, I'd say that would be the best method to accelerate becoming burnt out. (And I've met burnout cases who'd fit that pattern, with therapists rather suggesting to subscribe to less strenuous, goal-directed activities at the weekends, too...)

    1. Re: Yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self-actualization should not be goal-driven as such. When I work on my electronics hobby I'm enjoying the process itself. The goal is just something to probide direction.

  13. philosophy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrapharmakos

  14. Maybe also doing whole life wrong by ReneR · · Score: 2

    walking with smartphone in front of the nose, in subways, even school ... barely noticing other humans around and not making many friends and real life social interactions anymore, ... In other words: internet / social media addicted. imagine how much time for useful stuff people would have, if they put their "smart"phone aside! :-/

  15. Gaming counts... by Tim12s · · Score: 1

    So refining your gaming skillz counts...

  16. Yeah, yeah, Raspberry PI and Arduino by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are all that. I get it.

  17. Don't tell me what to do! by Notabadguy · · Score: 2

    My favorite part of weekends would be where I can do whatever the fuck I want, whenever the fuck I want to without worrying about a deadline. Telling people that they're spending their time in measurably non-optimal efforts is not the way to win friends and influence people.

    1. Re:Don't tell me what to do! by Notabadguy · · Score: 1

      PS, I'm about to sit my old ass in front of a T.V. and play video games all weekend.

      FFXIV - so I'll do challenge logs and work towards quests and goals that can be measured.

    2. Re:Don't tell me what to do! by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Very much this. Whether you are vegging out in front of the TV, busy with a hobby, taking the kids out to the park, or doing something incredibly self-actualizing, a good weekend is one where you are off the clock, and off the dayplanner. I know people who are rather keen to spent their time well and end up worrying every moment they aren't engaged in something "worthwhile", whatever the hell that may be. Not the best way to relax.

      By the way /. you are doing your headlines wrong. Stop with the clickbait already.

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  18. Cheeto morgan, is that you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aren't you the guy at work with the stapler, that I always see at the checkout line every friday with a cart full of Doritos and cheetos? Then at work monday morning, half asleep at the urinal, peeing on your shoe clutching a bright orange dick?

    1. Re: Cheeto morgan, is that you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why were you looking at his dick? You must want to fuck Cheeto Morgan.

    2. Re: Cheeto morgan, is that you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop changing the subject Cheeto. It's hard to miss a Dorito Orange penis spraying the floor near your shoes.

  19. Winston Churchill by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Towards the end of his life, Churchill wrote a little book called "Painting as a Pastime", which is all about his favorite hobby of painting. In the introductory remarks he makes the same point as the author of this article, but in a somewhat more charming and less pretentious manner. I would also point out that he didn't require a doctorate in sociology in order to arrive at this insight.

    1. Re:Winston Churchill by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

      I would also point out that he didn't require a doctorate in sociology in order to arrive at this insight.

      I am far from convinced that having a doctorate in sociology helps to draw any conclusions about human behaviour.

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    2. Re: Winston Churchill by Flavianoep · · Score: 2

      Nobody needs a doctorate in sociology to get to any insight, but unless they are famous, people need a doctorate for others to take heed at what they say.

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    3. Re:Winston Churchill by TimothyHollins · · Score: 1

      Sociology these days are unfortunately often just a word to make your opinions sound better. Why else would we have sociology branches in feminist theory or gender theory with insane studies like this? ( http://journals.sagepub.com/do... )

    4. Re:Winston Churchill by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Do you have a favorite quote from that book that might be relevant here? It sounds interesting.

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    5. Re:Winston Churchill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am far from convinced that having a doctorate in sociology helps to draw any conclusions about human behaviour.

      You'd be better off working as a bartender for five years.

    6. Re:Winston Churchill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a bartender you're only seeing a subset of humanity in a specific setting.

    7. Re:Winston Churchill by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      And you might still do better than that sociology doctor.

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    8. Re:Winston Churchill by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      The sad thing is: sociology, gender studies and all that stuff are valid areas of research. Scientific research. The problem with most sociology departments is that they no longer apply scientific methods or scientific filters or indeed any filters, and you end up with crap like that paper, and everything else that resonates well in their politically correct echo chamber. A friend of mine started on a sociology major, and found out the hard way that dissent (in the form of opinion or cold hard facts) is not appreciated, as opposed to almost all other departments where fresh points of view are welcomed.

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    9. Re:Winston Churchill by TimothyHollins · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine started on a sociology major, and found out the hard way that dissent (in the form of opinion or cold hard facts) is not appreciated, as opposed to almost all other departments where fresh points of view are welcomed.

      I know of 5 people (just in my own social circles) that quit their academic pursuits simply because the sociology departments weren't interested in research, they in fact became angry and threatening when presented with actual corroborated conclusions. These areas have become remarkably anti-intellectual and venomous, which is also why the language used has become so technical (you can't say men are to blame for everything, you have to say toxic masculinity etc).

  20. Prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Prisons are full of the "self-actualized".

  21. Run my little hamster by qbast · · Score: 2

    Spend a week working. Then spend a weekend working as well. Rinse and repeat. Several years of this and you are seriously start to considering putting a gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger, just to escape the cursed treadmill.

  22. Fuck him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I won't read the article. Nobody tells me how to spend my weekend. If I enjoy wasting time, it's not time wasted.

  23. Mazlow's Heirarchy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Doesn't this miss the point of Mazlow's Heirarchy of Needs though?

    It's all well and good to say that self-actualization's the pinnacle of human achievement, but Mazlow claimed you have to be able to satisfy the lower levels of the pyramid before you effectively have a chance to work on more ephemeral needs. People who are starving and need shelter don't have a lot of energy to spare for the need for leisure. Similarly people who have to work 9-5 probably can't afford to focus on a deep, meaningful leisure activity. They want to relax and to have some fun, because a challenging activity is too much like the work they have to do to make ends meet. The need for entertainment is on a lower level than the need for self-actualization. People aren't wrong to pursue it, they're just seeking those goals most directly relevant to their current situation.

    The only people who can easily manage a challenging and highly-rewarding hobby are those whose lesser needs are fully met; those people who have rich families or who are wealthy through their own activity. They don't need to be millionaires necessarily, they just have to have sufficiency and confidence that even if things go bad, their future's still secure.

    Instant gratification and hedonistic needs come above survival but below self-actualization. If a person meets basic survival needs but doesn't have hedonistic gratification, they'll seek to get laid or watch a movie or have a nice dinner out etc. Perhaps it's not as fulfilling as learning to paint, but it meets the needs they're in a position to pursue. Normal humans just aren't wired to skip levels on the heirarchy of needs, any more than they're likely to wisely put money away for the future when they're hungry now.

  24. What is work if not self-actualization? by antti.ahti · · Score: 1

    If weekends are supposed to be for self-actualization what is work then?

    1. Re: What is work if not self-actualization? by qbast · · Score: 1

      Earnings money.

    2. Re:What is work if not self-actualization? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Paying the bills, including the costs of self-actualization.

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  25. Uh huh by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Doing it wrong they say. How about this.

    MY weekends are at least partially spent doing all the household / homeowner chores and tasks I don't have time to do during the week after I get home from work.

    Clean house. Aquarium maintenance, other pet maintenance. Yard related stuff. Grocery store run. Laundry. Any and all errands I need to do during the hours when I'm off and the business I need to interact with is open.

    Sometimes I dread Saturday almost as much as Monday.

    1. Re: Uh huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need a wife that doesn't work.

      They call them stay at home moms.

    2. Re:Uh huh by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      What's really bad is when Monday comes and I realize I didn't get half my weekend stuff done.

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  26. Poor Old Maslow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's unfortunate that Maslow didn't spend more time drinking, online shopping, and binge-watching. He might have actually accomplished something of value to society.

  27. .... and even if you're ... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    This means spending the weekend on serious leisure activities that require the regular refinement of skills: your barbershop-quartet singing, ... You pursue serious leisure with the earnest tenor of a professional, even if the pursuit is amateur.

    and even if you're an earnest tenor.

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  28. Those who work with their hands... by sid+crimson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...like those in the trades, probably best rejuvenate and relax best by working their minds. Those who work with their minds, probably best rejuvenate and relax by being more active.

    I heard that somewhere, but can't give proper attribution.

  29. Work-free Days? by seven+of+five · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even when I was single my weekends weren't entirely work-free. In the past 20 years, my earning power has steadily waned, so evenings/weekends have been packed with side hustles and chores, with a little leisure if I was lucky.

    1. Re:Work-free Days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That sounds positively miserable.

  30. Not everybody works Mon-Fri by rossdee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and then has Saturday and Sunday off

    1. Re:Not everybody works Mon-Fri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And those of us working two jobs to make ends meet have days off overlap so that you are, effectively, working 7 days a week. The majority of people I know are working two jobs with no days off.

    2. Re:Not everybody works Mon-Fri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, if your weekend is only 2 days your doing it wrong :)

      Ok...I know most people don't get to work 4 days a week or less...but now that I work 4/10 I actually do feel *much* more refreshed due to the 3 day weekend every weekend - to the point of half the year had passed and I realized I hadn't even spent a single vacation day to rest yet.

      Now that being said 4/8 sounds much better to me than 4/10. Still trying to get that one approved by management...

  31. Well... by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    Abraham Maslow says the weekend goal should be "eudaimonic" happiness, which is a sense of well-being that arises from meaningful, challenging activities that cause you to grow as a person.

    I would "grow as a person" if Mr Maslow would shut the fuck up and mind his own business.

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    1. Re:Well... by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Well, he has been dead for decades, so he's pretty quiet. I also suspect that, were he questioned on the subject while alive, he would say that work would be where you focus on self-actualization.

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  32. "eudaimonic" happiness by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

    Translates to "conducive to happiness happiness" - People who use uncommon words that poorly are just using them to try to obscure that the activities they're trying to maintain as a living are not-worth-anything activities. Basically the entire purpose of sociologists.

    1. Re:"eudaimonic" happiness by PPH · · Score: 1

      Personally, I'm against people who give vent to their loquacity by extraneous bombastic circumlocution.

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    2. Re:"eudaimonic" happiness by Pfhorrest · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Eudaimonic" in general English means "conducive to happiness" because "eudaimonia" is a Greek word that most closely translates into English as "happiness", but in classical Greek philosophy "eudaimonia" means a specific kind of happiness. (Similar to how there are a bunch of different words for love: eros, agape, philos, etc). TFA is saying that that kind of happiness is what one should pursue, as opposed to a different kind of happiness.

      Specifically, eudaimonia, which literally translated to something more like "good spirits", means something like "a life well lived", a life of achievement and intellectual self-satisfaction; as opposed to something like hedonia, which is just physiological pleasure.

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  33. What does that have to do with rejuvenation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Contrary to the submitter's statement about how good you feel about going back to work, I don't see anything in the article suggesting that these "serious leisure activities" leave you feeling better about the end of the weekend or leave you more well-rested. Just a bunch of "actualize your potential" bullshit.

  34. Oh that sweet, sweet Adeline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a barbershop quartet singer for over 30 years, I am gratified that they included this activity as a source of healthy living. Not a great way to pick up chicks, though. And most of our activities are on a weeknight, which kills the benefit of unwinding on the weekend.

  35. Couldn't agree more on the "amped-up" weeks by tirnacopu · · Score: 1

    ..and come Friday you will pry my cold dark beer from my cold dead hands

  36. Ridiculous. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "if you don’t feel rejuvenated and keen to face Monday after two work-free days, there might be a reason: You’re doing your weekend wrong."

    "In a culture where many people exist all week in an amped-up, overworked state, casual weekend leisure easily becomes the default for quick decompression."

    Lets just take a look at the overall message these two lines send: If you don't want to face a week of excessive over-working, it's your fault for relaxing in the "wrong" way? So the reason why I suffered a breakdown after being on minimum wage, with entire weeksworth of unpaid overtime, and filling the shoes of three different full-time company staff members (two of which had absolutely nothing to do with my skillset) for over a year wasn't because my boss was an abusive, exploitative a-hole who cared more about the two BMWs he had in his garage than his employees, it was because I wasn't out tending my garden or building a bird house on Sundays?

    Anyone care to run the figures and determine if a Sociology degree holds more value when used as a fire starter vs. as toilet paper?

  37. I'm doing it wrong by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    I'm doing it wrong - I'm reading slashdot on the weekend instead of relaxing.

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  38. Narrow-minded and self-righteous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good lord that guy is pretentious. I spend my weekends the same way I spend my evenings. Doing chores, stained glass projects, playing with my kids, organizing my Lego bricks, hitting the gym, and even singing with the local SPEBSQSA chapter. But I would never say partying or binge watching a show is "doing it wrong." Everybody can decide for themselves what self-actualization means. For one of my best friends, as well as my 88 year old grandfather, partying every weekend is something they are passionate about and really enjoy doing. Why stress out about whether there is some better way to be happy?

  39. Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was just asking my wife what I should do for this 5 day weekend, and you totally solved the problem for me.

  40. He's the smart one, then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems to me that your brother is a good deal smarter than you are. You bust your ass to make a living, he don't do shit but what he wants all day and is getting paid for it just the same.

    1. Re:He's the smart one, then by Hylandr · · Score: 1

      This is how the universal wage will play out.

      For every one person working their ass off, two to three people can play games, smoke weed and have babies.

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    2. Re:He's the smart one, then by ChatHuant · · Score: 2

      For every one person working their ass off, two to three people can play games, smoke weed and have babies.

      I think you nailed the problem: indeed, there should be nobody having to work their ass off. The work needed for sustaining human lives needs to be done mostly by machines. People will only work their ass off if that's what they really want, and not because the alternative is die of hunger.

      Theoretically, this can work; getting there however would be difficult. Existing structures and ideologies will resist changes. It may sound difficult to believe, but I even think some folks will insist people should waste their lives in the drudgery of pointless boring "work", as if this is somehow morally better than letting them chose to live their lives as they want to (like, for example, playing games).

    3. Re:He's the smart one, then by Hylandr · · Score: 1

      Changing technology is always easy. It's just changing workflows that's nearly impossible. Changing peoples minds will take generations.

      Good luck with that.

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  41. Ok, ballpark figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's say that the person making the most from any company shall not make more than twenty times the lowest pay in that company. And a likewise cap on total wealth: everything amassed above twenty times the average yearly income will be taxed at 100%.

    If you can't live like a king on twenty times minimum income, perhaps it's time to upgrade that minimum income. Also, if you are not financially secure at twenty times the average yearly income in your checking account you have other problems than your income.

    1. Re:Ok, ballpark figures by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      So McDonald's, where they pay minimum wage AND employs some people part time (meaning: you can make $600 a month there, working 15 hours a week at $10 per hour) would have a CEO who earns no more than $12,000 per month. Seriously?

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    2. Re:Ok, ballpark figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Compare full-time with full-time, and only then pro-rate to part-time.

      So, a normal work week of 40 hours would net $20800 at minimum income (52 weeks @ 40 hours @ $10).
      Twenty times that is $416000. Seems to me that is a reasonable compensation for a CEO.
       

    3. Re:Ok, ballpark figures by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      OK, so we cap income. And that helps - how? Why is income inequality bad?

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    4. Re:Ok, ballpark figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really?

      Perhaps dividing the money a company makes a bit more evenly enables more employees to not live in poverty. When most of the proceeds go to a very select group of people with the rest having to pick up the leftover crumbs it is not conducive to a healthy society.

      Life is not a game where winner-takes-all is a viable strategy. To me, at least, working a full-time job (any job) should provide you with enough income to live a modest life. That money is available, if it would not be shoveled in the overflowing coffers of the happy few.

      No CEO works thousands of times better, harder or smarter than the rest of the employees. Not one.

    5. Re:Ok, ballpark figures by sjames · · Score: 1

      It would certainly make the CEO find a way to pay people better, now wouldn't it?

    6. Re:Ok, ballpark figures by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Life is not a zero sum game, either... The pie grows. Does the CEO contribute 1000 times more to the valuation of a company than a janitor? Probably. It's not about work - it's about value. So again - why is income inequality a bad thing?

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    7. Re: Ok, ballpark figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the actions of a CEO can easily bring the company thousands or millions of times more money than the actions of other employees.

      Can also cost the company that much, too.

    8. Re: Ok, ballpark figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It depends on **how** that inequality happens.

      If you get richer through non-coercive means - coming up with a successful business, landing a better job, etc - there's no problem.

      If you get richer through special government favors, or through Cantillion effects due to fractional reserve banking and/or money printing, then it's a problem.

      These Cantillion effects are the largest source of inequality. Good luck getting any of heroes of the slashbots to address them.

    9. Re:Ok, ballpark figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't make it any more clear than I already did. Somehow I'm not able to let you see my point.

      So, to further our discussion, let's turn it around: why do you think income inequality is a good thing? Why don't you see a problem when a CEO makes millions while the factory workers are working double shifts just to make ends meet? I really don't see how that can be beneficial to, well, anyone or anything. Perhaps if you can explain how this is a good thing, then I can voice my opinion better to let you see what I mean.

    10. Re: Ok, ballpark figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When the CEO stays home, the company still makes money. If the low-level employees don't show it gets expensive in a hurry. Who adds value?

      How is value measured anyway, who decides how much a certain type of work is worth? By definition an employee adds more value than they cost otherwise they would not be employed. This is not the case for a CEO (or other management), they cost more than they deliver in value.

    11. Re:Ok, ballpark figures by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Because our natural tendencies to want something better, to be competitive, to beat the next guy exist. Seeing someone do better than you is often a major, instinctual push to do better yourself. That drives innovation, creates new sources of wealth and excellence. Seeing others do better than you - not just the CEO, but your boss, and your boss's boss, or your neighbor who just bought a brand new BMW because he got a big fat raise at his job - is often the right kind of pressure to push people to excel.

      Where would the tech world be without HP, Intel, Microsoft, Apple? Competition, motivation to be "better" than the others drove a lot of the early - and continuing - growth in our industry. Likewise with airplanes - Boeing had massive competition early on, but it was from that competition, the drive and desire to be better (and reap the rewards thereof) that made their planes better than everyone else's.

      At the end of the day, whether you like it or not, most of our value in terms of our labor and contributions to the business are measured by dollars. What it takes to create your output, what it would cost to replace you. If you have little value - you do a job that is simple, can be easily replaced with another - you make little money. If you do a job where making a wrong call will costs tens or hundreds of millions of dollars and lose tens of thousands of jobs - you make a lot of money. At the end of the day, companies pay based upon value. Flat out.

      And no, not all people have the same value to a company. Yes, you cannot make a car without the guy that puts the lug nuts on the car; but his job can be done by nearly anyone, and the value of mounting those lug nuts is tiny (because the torque and position is machine-controlled) relative to the value of the guy who styled the body, designed the ECM, or chose to green-light the entire hundred-million dollar project.

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    12. Re:Ok, ballpark figures by bws111 · · Score: 1

      The problem is not how clear you are, but that you make no sense. Let's take an easy example, the lefts favorite whipping boy, Walmart. The average employee is low paid, but the CEO makes $21M. Clearly an outrage, right?

      My understanding of your position is that if he was not making $21M, that money would be used to get his employees out of poverty, and that his $21M represents 'most of the proceeds', and the rest of the employees are living off 'crumbs'.

      Let's make the insane assumption that every employee, other than the CEO, makes $8/hr, works half time (1000 hrs/yr), and has no benefits (paid time off, insurance, employee discounts, etc) at all. Since they have 2.1M employees, that means a payroll of $16.8B. The CEOs compensation represents 1/8 of 1% of the payroll. Please explain how that is 'most of the proceeds' and the 99 and 7/8% of money going to the employees is 'the crumbs'.

      Now, as for cutting his compensation and using that money to get the employees out of poverty. If you cut his compensation to $0, and distribute it to the employees, you have given each employee $10. Per YEAR. Are you really going to claim that $10/yr is the difference between poverty and not poverty?

    13. Re:Ok, ballpark figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I still think a CEO raking in $21M is indeed an outrage, your argument is solid and I have no counter argument to give.

      So, when CEO compensation is not a factor contributing to poverty of low-level employees, what could be done to give them a better life? Sure, we could raise the minimum income (or Walmart could raise the pay themselves) but then that would eat into profits with the net effect of raising prices of goods. When goods get more expensive, a higher income wouldn't help all that much... This is hard... :-)

      Thank you for the detailed response, it made me see the other side of the argument. And, for the record, I was wrong, or at least naive about the scale of the problem.

  42. work should be self-actualization by Goldsmith · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty darned self-actualized at work. I have a very challenging and intellectually rewarding job (I'm a scientist with my own small business). I chose this after trying out a string of jobs that paid much better and came with more professional recognition, but didn't make me feel like I was actually useful. While at those other jobs I spent a lot of time on hobbies like gardening, cooking, and fiddling around with projects in my garage. I don't find I have the need or the desire to do that right now, because I don't need my social life to make me feel like I'm accomplishing something.

    Choosing the correct career and job for yourself at the current particular moment is much more helpful than having the right hobbies. It makes balancing work and life easier (because social responsibilities are real) and is a must if you want to raise kids, work, and maintain your sanity simultaneously.

  43. One work-free day per week. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "after two work-free days"

    Fuck you, my company is one day(Sunday) per week.

  44. yeah but no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll decide for myself what my weekend goal should be, fuck you very much.

  45. Maybe it means that you hate your job by JeffHunt · · Score: 1

    .....

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  46. Well known problem by ET3D · · Score: 1

    If you don't feel rejuvenated and keen to face Monday after two work-free days, you might be suffering from a condition known in the medical literature as kids.

  47. I go back to work to relax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our weekends are spent renevating our houses and properties so we can sell them for a profit.

  48. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eat high protein, high fat, low carb organic, healthy food. Avoid anything processed.
    Meditate.
    Do yoga.
    Boom, basic physical and mental health solved. If everyone adopted this simple lifestyle American health would change overnight. We'd crash the BigPharma BigHealthCare industries.

    Or, you know, eat McSnacks and don't move too much. The choice is yours.

  49. University of Calgary eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lots of people on the internet who do "studies" like to tell people it's the fault of the individual with the problem. And nobody likes to blame themselves for unhappiness but when you're measuring fundamentals of resources for happiness and you see it gradually being taken away, obviously there's going to be discontent. Assuming you're not one of the more unfortunate people to work hours around a real weekend or real workday time, it could be you work such a terrible job that one weekend ain't enough to recover from it. Maybe it's doing you serious mental harm, and is not contributing barely anything next to feeding you and paying your rent, but it's all you can get. I understand the point of pursuing "deep" hobbies, but it's really a lot harder to invest in those hobbies when you're so stressed out over an unstable, nigh-unworkable job. You feel like it's not even worth doing anything other than cheap instant-enjoyment crap until you get something that makes you feel like a real human being again.

  50. its more like relax a working now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    either home chores or work emails in between shows or drinks