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Kanye West Is Leaving Tidal Because the Company Owes Him Money (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Kanye West has terminated his contract with Tidal, TMZ reports. West claims that Jay Z's streaming service owes him upwards of $3 million and is in breach of contract, according to TMZ's sources. Through his lawyers, West has terminated his contract with Tidal, while the company apparently refuses to recognize that termination. West was one of the first artists to join Jay Z's streaming service at its launch in 2015; his 2016 album The Life of Pablo was originally released as a Tidal exclusive. West claims that album brought 1.5 million new subscribers to Tidal -- a number that was apparently supposed to come with a bonus check, according to TMZ. West also says Tidal went back on a promise of additional money for exclusive music videos, which Tidal reportedly says Kanye never produced. According to TMZ, Tidal has threatened to sue West if he leaves the service.

94 comments

  1. Finally by Brett+Buck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the kind of computer culture/tech information that I can really use!

    1. Re:Finally by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Funny

      News for Nerds? Is Kanye not a Cardassian?

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    2. Re:Finally by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      OY, where's the Dominion when you need them?

    3. Re:Finally by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      With links to TMZ of all things.

      Financial disputes between talent and streaming service is I guess technology related? It seems more appropriate for a pop culture blog, since a significant number of /. readers would have look up who Jay Z and Kayne West are in order to follow this.

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    4. Re:Finally by quenda · · Score: 1

      a significant number of /. readers would have look up who Jay Z and Kayne West are in order to follow this.

      At least they sound vaguely familiar. I've never heard of Tidal. So its kind of like Spotify?

    5. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I always thought Jay West and Kanye Z were more or less stage names for the same person?

    6. Re:Finally by Robmonster · · Score: 2

      Well, they 'allegedly' both need a certain white chemical to survive.....

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    7. Re:Finally by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Tidal is interesting because despite being backed by many big names, with many exclusive albums and extras, it is failing. Turns out people think it's just too expensive, and no amount of star power can fix that. Meanwhile cheaper alternatives like Spotify are popular but screw artists with tiny royalties, and royalties was one of the reasons that Tidal was created.

      Maybe there is a really narrow window where people will pay enough in great enough numbers to provide a good income to the artists from streaming... But probably not.

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    8. Re:Finally by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      The Dominion is a major interstellar state in the Gamma Quadrant. Don't mess with them.

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    9. Re:Finally by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      You get a virtual +5 funny from me, good sir.

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    10. Re: Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jay z is Sean Carter and Kanye West is...Kanye West.

  2. Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    This has nothing to do with technology. It's a spat between two spoiled egocentrics.

    1. Re:Why is this here? by starblazer · · Score: 1

      because... streaming music is technology man....... just let me finish...

    2. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh I understand. You think rap and hip hop are music.

      Funny.

    3. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh I understand. You think you get to decide what is and isn't music.

    4. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is the same praddle. Your topic is your guilt. Please direct your opinions to dev.hell

    5. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "prattle". Learn to spell, dummy.

    6. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they can't play a musical instrument, is it music?

    7. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Load up pro tools or fruity loops and make me a beat. Thought so, you can't. It takes practice like a musical instrument.

      Also most producers know how to play instruments like guitars, drums, etc. But who cares about facts right. It's black people music that has crossed over and little johnnie from the suburbs now listens to it, so that scares you.

  3. Missing videos. by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    West also says Tidal went back on a promise of additional money for exclusive music videos, which Tidal reportedly says Kanye never produced.

    I don't understand how this can be disputed for more than 10 minutes.

      "You never paid me for those videos I made just for you!"
      "Uh, you never made those videos...:
      "Yeah, I did."
      "ORLY? Play one for us right now."

    1. Re:Missing videos. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's all very simple:

      On Jay Z’s recent Tidal exclusive 4:44, he references a $20 million loan and West’s claim that Jay refused to call him:
      “‘Ye
        You gave him 20 million without blinkin
        He gave you 20 minutes on stage, fuck was he thinkin’?”

      See?

    2. Re:Missing videos. by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 1

      I can't be arsed reading the article, but I presume the issue is whether the videos were 'exclusive' or not. He probably just sent them a VHS of his favourite 'Fresh Prince' episode with an 'I made this' sticker on it.

    3. Re:Missing videos. by dcooper_db9 · · Score: 1
      From TFA:

      I'll deliver the videos when you pay me what I'm owed.

      Yes, I actually read the article. I hang my head in shame.

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    4. Re:Missing videos. by nnet · · Score: 1

      I tried to, but ORLY is an airport in France.

    5. Re:Missing videos. by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 1

      ORLY is a world-famous internet owl!

  4. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If we can get every nation on the planet to owe him money, will he leave the planet?

    1. Re: So... by thundercattt · · Score: 1

      Can the fans sue him for continuously being a d-bag?

    2. Re:So... by Scarletdown · · Score: 4, Interesting

      All I want to know is does he still like fishsticks?

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    3. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are a fan of his doesn't that automatically make you also a d-bag anyway? seems kinda hypocritical to sue under such circumstances.

  5. Who the fuck cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Again, who the fuck cares

    1. Re:Who the fuck cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Came here to say this

    2. Re: Who the fuck cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ima going stop you right there just to say that "Fuck Kanyay."

  6. Yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slow news day?
    News that matters?

  7. I'ma gonna let you finish... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    But let me just say that TIDAL owes me MONEY and hasn't PAID me nothing!

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  8. Ahhh by XSportSeeker · · Score: 1

    My schadenfreude quota has been filled with this and the Fyre festival news.

  9. Not enough by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    I'd prefer if he left the planet altogether.

  10. step in the right direction. by bonedonut · · Score: 1

    cool. now if he could just leave earth.

  11. Fascinating by Trogre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now, will someone please explain why this is on Slashdot.

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    1. Re:Fascinating by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      Because it's about something that will probably harm the hated-by-geeks sham "audiophile" service Tidal.

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    2. Re:Fascinating by somenickname · · Score: 2

      Exactly. WTF is a Kanye West? WTF is a Tidal? WTF is a Jay-Z? The last one is presumably related to a function in Cartesian coordinate space, the first one is either a new geolocation paradigm or something akin to a Rusty Trombone but, I genuinely can't figure out what the middle one is.

    3. Re:Fascinating by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Copyright and online music. That's often on Slashdot.

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    4. Re:Fascinating by fafalone · · Score: 1

      It's a miracle of technological convergence. Back in the old dark ages, nerds had to go to two different websites to read about the things they cared about, computers and the Kardashians and who they're having sex with. But no more! Slashdot's revolutionary innovation of covering both of the things nerds care about is a huge step forward in synergistic apps.

    5. Re:Fascinating by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is a fascinating and relevant follow up story to something that interested us all in the past. We covered the Kanye West exclusive online release of a major album in the past in relation to piracy, physical copies, and the general saturation of the online music industry.

      It was interesting at the time, and it's even more interesting to see it all fall in a heap.

    6. Re:Fascinating by Trogre · · Score: 2

      That's... actually pretty a good reason.

      I'll go sit down.

      Over there.

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    7. Re:Fascinating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "new owners" have purchased a dead cow. They're trying to find something, anything in fact, that will bring in eyeballs and generate advert impressions. Even the most tenuous links to "tech" will be used to promote garbage PR puff-pieces.

    8. Re:Fascinating by c · · Score: 1

      I genuinely can't figure out what the middle one is.

      It's a wave of bullshit, obviously.

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    9. Re:Fascinating by coofercat · · Score: 2

      Let me try to help...

      Kanye West is Tidal, on account of it's proximity to the Pacific ocean. Kanye East is in-land, although has a lake along one edge of it, so looks 'watery' but is not Tidal.

      "jayzed" (or "jayzee", depending on which side of the Atlantic you happen to be on) is just a way of saying it's not the letters from A-I. As you know, AI is nearly magic, but clever people like Stephen Hawking have been warning of it's potential downsides.

      Rusty Trombone is a guy from New York, originally called Rusty Patterson, but changed his name on account of being a reasonably talented jazz musician (go look him up - he's on most of the music streaming sites).

      WTF is a government facility used by the EPA - it's a Water Testing Facility.

      I hope that clears things up for you.

    10. Re: Fascinating by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Kanye West is the Kardashian hanger on and would be musician Obama called a jackass for jumping on stage and saying Beyonce should have received the reward rather than Taylor Swift. Jay-Z is actually a highly talented and intelligent musician in a market where so few of them exist. He's got 99 problems, and now apparently a bitch IS one.

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    11. Re:Fascinating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      @phantomfive We care about THOSE things. Still not sure what Kenya West, Jayz or Tidal are though...

    12. Re: Fascinating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Njigger, njigger, coon music service.

    13. Re:Fascinating by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      Seriously? I'd love to see a pit open up and swallow Kayne, Jayz, Bey, Caitlyn, Kim, Kris, and the rest of the Kardashian pantheon, into the 9th level of the inferno too. I feel somewhat dirty even knowing the names of that many of their lot off the top of my head. But news of their "exploits" is all but impossible to miss, even in passing. Pretending total ignorance is not clever. And genuine total ignorance is contemptible.

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  12. Who cares, Kanye sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Subject says it all.

  13. ^^ underrated old school reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nomsg

  14. Kanye makes Slashdot by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

    What's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just the four horsemen.

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    1. Re: Kanye makes Slashdot by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Actually Jay-Z and his streaming company made Slashdot. As usual, Kanye is just the "hanger on".

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    2. Re: Kanye makes Slashdot by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

      And Jay-Z has Down's Syndrome. I mean he does, right? Just high functioning. I mean he looks like so I always just figured. That's why he married Beyoncé, because she is traded. Or at least that's how she comes off, so I just always assumed.

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    3. Re: Kanye makes Slashdot by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Donald Trump, is that You? I mean who else is so fucking stupid that they would try to say a man far smarter than he has downs syndrome? I always think it is funny when some racist chump makes a comment that makes it clear he secretly wishes he could get some black ass and is jealous he can't get any ass at all. Unfortunately for you though, Jay-Z doesn't swing your way. Sorry tiny hands!

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  15. tidal is fucking garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but i'm sure foolios around here love it because it's "lossless" like that matters when u stream it to ur shitty firefox phone or whatever.

    1. Re:tidal is fucking garbage by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      I only play lossless audio on my amazing Apple MacBook Pro (mid-2009; MacBookPro5,5). And even though there is a terrible hiss and series of pops from my headphone jack, I still wear my high-end studio headphones in order to optimize the experience that Apple has created for me.

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    2. Re:tidal is fucking garbage by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 1

      Why haven't you removed the audio jack from all your Apple devices? Please switch off your computer and await the arrival of the Apple Police.

  16. I hear he like FISH DICKS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And he does a hobbit. When he's not doing them fish!

    Imagonnaletoutalknow!

    Don't bring your whiskey home, or to the grammys.

    1. Re:I hear he like FISH DICKS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are gay fish !

  17. Yawn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And this is "news for geeks" how?

  18. Who is leaving what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is this even about? Some dude is going west because of the tides.... I can't even figure this out.

    1. Re:Who is leaving what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's something to do with football. He's a top quarterbacker or something.

  19. Have you heard of that Spotify thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    like all the kids are using it, because it seems they are the only ones around who know how to do streaming music properly.

  20. Here's my take on this by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    Kayne and Tidal haven't been feature in the media lately.

    This is their attempt to get free publicity

  21. who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who the F cares about this in the tech sector

  22. Re:I'ma gonna let you finish... Soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "... hasn't PAID me nothing!" So they paid you SOMETHING? ...and this is a problem because....

    News for ...nerds? stuff that "matters?"
    Huh?

  23. Good old days by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    None of the music services are as user-friendly as Napster used to be. Sure it was piracy, but it was easy to find all the music you wanted.

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  24. Rap kinda decided that itself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...when it styled itself as "not music".

  25. Where do you find this "Spotify"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been looking through the GeoCities site and there nothing. Searching on Excite returns nothing as well. Should I go to B. Dalton and get one of those books that list web pages?

  26. Best article in a long time... by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 1

    The only thing I can gather from this article is that the political trolls don't like rap. Its so peaceful. Pass the lemonade.

  27. Gay fish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you like fish sticks ?

  28. A better return with Coinye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He should have gone with Coinye. He obviously would have received a better return.

  29. Re:What we need is communism! by nnet · · Score: 1
    How is this article even remotely interesting to this crowd? You're pandering to your advertisers using clickbait articles, so look in the mirror before you presume to tell others to

    Shut up. Off topic. Plz discuss the news article

    Thanks.

  30. Re: What we need is communism! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shut the fuck up, you capitalist pig. You will be hanging from a lamppost with your screaming wife and crying children looking on.

  31. You don't say! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep, we were all on pins and needles waiting to learn what the moronic buffoon was up to.

  32. Worth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So Kanye is getting paid what he is worth and doesn't like it? Bummer. Fair market evaluations suck ehh? It is all ok though, he is superstar from another planet here to save us.

  33. Re: What we need is communism! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes Trump will make sure all White people will rule with a 1000000 credit line! Screw capitalism, White nationalism is our only salvation! Let the king's rule the peasants like they are supposed to and the slaves return to their fields! All hail King Trump!

  34. Why so greedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean he has Kim's phat ass to hold on to and fuck at night. Not to mention her big fat tits. Man, if I could put my dick between those tits and my tongue on that crusty butthole, I'd have zero complaints about anything not going precisely the way I wanted it to. Those problems would be bupkis compared to the positive things I had going in my life: big tits, a phat plump ass, and dick sucking lips. Omg.

  35. Not a slashdot story, for fuck's sake. by jcr · · Score: 1

    Remember when this site was supposed to be stuff that MATTERS?

    -jcr

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  36. So long... by NonUniqueNickname · · Score: 1

    Thus spake the Master Programmer: "When you have seen a TMZ story on the front page, it will be time for you to leave."

    ... and thanks for all the fish.

  37. Slashdot must owe him also... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look at all of the new viewers it brought to Slashdot just to hear about his antics.

  38. Wow. New low for /. Kardashian following by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really? What Kardasian Pimp follower submitted this as "relevant"? Seriously. A music contract dispute is 'news'?

  39. Who's this Kanye West guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should I care? Funny none of his music comes to mind.

  40. Terrible news for Tidal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their 4 users are going to be heartbroken