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Google May Face Another Record EU Fine, This Time Over Android (itwire.com)

troublemaker_23 shares a report from ITWire: The EU is contemplating another record fine against Google over how it pays and limits mobile phone providers who use the search company's Android mobile operating system and app store. Reuters reported that a decision could be expected by the end of the year if the opinion of a team of experts, set up by the EU to obtain a second opinion, agree with the decisions reached by the team that has worked on the case. The report quoted Richard Windsor, an independent financial analyst, as saying that the Android fine was likely to hurt Google more than the search fine or the verdict in a third EU probe over AdSense. "If Google was forced to unbundle Google Play from its other Digital Life services, handset makers and operators would be free to set whatever they like by default potentially triggering a decline in the usage of Google's services," he said.

In the chargesheet, issued on April 20, 2016, the European Commission said Google had breached EU anti-trust rules by:
-Requiring manufacturers to pre-install Google Search and Google's Chrome browser and requiring them to set Google Search as default search service on their devices, as a condition to license certain Google proprietary apps;
-Preventing manufacturers from selling smart mobile devices running on competing operating systems based on the Android open source code;
-Giving financial incentives to manufacturers and mobile network operators on condition that they exclusively pre-install Google Search on their devices.

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  1. Re:Excellent by ganjadude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    so when will they go after the apple store being it only works on the iphone and apple products???

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  2. Why this when Apples sysem is WORSE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seriously - Why no mention of apple - surely they should be going for apples jugular given they don't allow anyone else to use their devices, *OR* install competing stores on them

    At least with googles system you can disable the bits you don't want, *AND* install other app stores. You can't do that on apple.

    1. Re:Why this when Apples sysem is WORSE? by guruevi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Apparently Google is willing to foot the bill or less able to pull out of the market. Apple and Microsoft has enough clout, if they just threaten to pull out of Europe or pass on the cost to their educational and government customers, the fines are quickly forgotten. These things are just a political game, it's pure protectionism.

      Google's market is much more fractured and less important to continuity of businesses. There are plenty of other search engines and Android and their ads are not just sold by Google, but by hundreds if not thousands of smaller parties. Even if Google threatened to pull out of the market, they would be doing enough residual business to still qualify for the fine.

      They also need the European market much more than Apple or Microsoft combined and have little to no leverage over their customers.

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  3. Re:Excellent by fred6666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and not even allowing real browsers but safari. No, themes doesn't count as browsers.

  4. Sigh. by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Requiring manufacturers to pre-install Google Search and Google's Chrome browser and requiring them to set Google Search as default search service on their devices, as a condition to license certain Google proprietary apps;

    Bundling. Naughty, naughty.

    -Preventing manufacturers from selling smart mobile devices running on competing operating systems based on the Android open source code;

    Really? I thought they were just denying them the use of their trademarks for the purpose.

    -Giving financial incentives to manufacturers and mobile network operators on condition that they exclusively pre-install Google Search on their devices.

    Exclusively? Really? Or just not on the home screen?

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  5. isn't it obvious... by mschaffer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Isn't it obvious, the EU regulators are a bunch of Apple shills and fanbois.

  6. Scary for American readers.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... but this is what is looks like when your government actually cares about protecting its citizens. Microsoft was first, now Google, other abusers to follow.

    Forced bundling, undeletable apps, different pricing per region, forcing out competition, regional locking, all will be taken care of for EU citizens. As a result the capitalist model is working well causing competition which results for example in low prices for food, medication, insurance, internet, TV subscriptions, no caps on fixed line etc.

    But please, don't believe me; there is already a considerable influx of American scientists and retirees, so don't come. It's horrible over here!

    Posting as AC because I value my privacy.

    1. Re:Scary for American readers.... by colonslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      'Helping consumers' in this way is why the EU doesn't have a Google, Microsoft, Amazon, or Facebook. These companies have created a tremendous amount of consumer value, but they couldn't ever grow in an environment like that.

    2. Re:Scary for American readers.... by 0ld_d0g · · Score: 3, Informative

      The EU says that companies should not be allowed to create such "tremendous amount of consumer value" at the expense of shitting on their citizens in other ways (privacy, surveillance, bundling, exploiting labor, etc).

  7. Re:Excellent by dnaumov · · Score: 4, Insightful

    so when will they go after the apple store being it only works on the iphone and apple products???

    When Apple gets to 90% of the smartphone market.

  8. Re:no competing OS by afidel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Contract, if you make an Android derived device you have violated the conditions of the contract and you lose access to the Play Store and all of the "with Google" apps and all of the API libraries that use Google resources. Frankly I'm a bit surprised by this ruling, Google makes the base Android OS available to anyone, they only require that you follow certain rules if you wish to have your users use their resources. To me this seems perfectly fine. They even allow the users to set and change the default applications for any action which is exactly the remedy the EU used against MS when they went after them so this is some serious goalpost moving (how exactly are you supposed to avoid these money grabs if you follow the guidance from the last ruling and still get dinged?).

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