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Tech Boss Attacks 'Whiners' in Angry Email (bbc.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The co-founder of a Silicon Valley investment firm said it is "not my job to make you all feel good" in a long email to staff and investors. Jonathan Teo from Binary Capital was responding to negative press coverage about the firm following allegations of sexual harassment by his co-founder Justin Caldbeck. He added that he was "tired and indignant," and raged against "whiners" who demanded his attention. Mr Teo has already offered to resign. He did so after Mr Caldbeck left the firm in June. "I'm incredibly sorry," Mr Caldbeck tweeted when the news broke last month. Mr Caldbeck's actions were one of several sexism scandals to rock Silicon Valley in recent months. They include a damning report into the work culture inside ride-hailing firm Uber, and the resignation of venture capitalist Dave McClure, who admitted "inexcusable behaviour" towards "multiple women."

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  1. Read the TFA... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This guy is whining about whiners. I guess he's looking for cheese to go with his whine.

  2. But isn't he right? by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This guy isn't accused of doing anything wrong. The guy who *was* accused has resigned. Right?

    So why is it this guy's job to constantly apologize for the actions of someone he had no control over and who has already been forced out of the firm? It's not his fucking fault his former partner was an asshole.

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    1. Re:But isn't he right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      "It's not his fucking fault his former partner was an asshole." Yes, it is. That's what "partner's with" means. It means you have a joint stake in things and the actions of one affect the other.

      If you're married to a serial killer and you find out about things, YES it IS your job to turn them in and apologize for their behavior and explain yourself. YES, IT IS.

    2. Re:But isn't he right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Obviously not. It directly falls on him, where else would it go? He was either ignorant of his business partner or accepting, either way, this certainly falls in his lap. Acting indignant later does not change this.

    3. Re:But isn't he right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So why is it this guy's job to constantly apologize for the actions of someone he had no control over and who has already been forced out of the firm?

      Because he's the CEO. That's exactly his job, along with a large dose of, "Here's how we're going to make sure this never, ever is permitted to happen again here...." And also to take care of his employees and clients and make them feel emotionally good about working there and investing with them. That's. His. Job.

      And his outright hostility towards the notion of a woman filling his job, covered up under a pathetic excuse of "we need the best person period" platitude, shows he is as much of the problem as the person who left. In short, he needs to go beyond the "I offered my resignation," to, "I have resigned and asked the board for relief at the earliest opportunity."

  3. TL;DR version straight from TFA by Kergan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "If you were teaching PR 101 this guy has just done everything possible wrong. He has insulted clients, he has insulted investors, he has insulted employees and he has insulted the media.

  4. Re:He must be ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The issue is that "Sexual Harrassment" has been expanded to "anything that makes me feel uncomfortable"

  5. He needs to quit--immediately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sexual harassment isn't whining, it's a fucking legal issue.

    If he can't deal with issues in his company he doesn't need to get permission to resign, he needs to stop whining himself and just fucking quit.

  6. Many men feel emboldened now that Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Many men feel emboldened now that Trump was caught on camera bragging about assaulting women and then was rewarded for it by being elected President (although not with a majority of the popular vote).

    1. Re:Many men feel emboldened now that Trump by phayes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh puhleese...

      Trump's election does not change the generations long movement to political correctness that has taken over in the U.S.'s corporate culture.

      Trump was NOT my choice for president & I am all for sexual equality and an end to harassment in the workplace.

      When even an innocuous appreciative but not lecherly comment comment like "nice dress" on the one day a co-worker wears something particularly attractive is deemed sexual harassment, the movement has gone too far.

      Yeah, yeah, keep pointing to the exceptions and strive to make people believe that ALL athletes/VC execs/geeks are sexual predators.

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    2. Re:Many men feel emboldened now that Trump by phayes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When even an innocuous appreciative but not lecherly comment comment like "nice dress" on the one day a co-worker wears something particularly attractive is deemed sexual harassment, the movement has gone too far.

      Whether that's harassment depends. Do you also compliment your male co-workers when they dress nicely? If your female co-worker indicates that she's uncomfortable with the compliment (even non-verbally), do you stop saying such things?

      I can and do indeed compliment my co-workers appearance whether male or female and without fear of overbearing PC considerations, but then I've been living in France for 30 years. The bullshit where it's not what you say but how someone chooses to hear it never took root here, thankfully.

      Does that mean that I can be a knuckledragging cad with my comments? No and there are penalties here for true harassment -- but not for the overbearing PC workplace environment that has become prevalent in the U.S. and that is mocked by my co-workers both male and female. As I'm the only American this and other American excesses come up regularly.

      If the answers to either of those questions is "no", then yes, it's harassment, and that has nothing to do with any "movement".

      How amusing that you're so deep inside the PC police state that you cannot even see it. Innocuous comments and even more so, an off color remark is only harassment and sufficient cause for a lawsuit in the U.S & less so in the U.K. Here, the PC gender police do not have the upper hand so it needs to be much more systematic.

      I've counselled a few co-workers through some harassment. For one, a co-worker with whom innocent flirting was second nature (& a joy to be around) was harassed by a knuckledragger who refused to accept that flirting!=desire that his continued hitting on her and increasingly explicit sexual innuendos were unwanted which led to his spreading rumours that she was sleeping around. THAT was harassment & I'm proud to say that he lost his job in part thanks to my testimony.

      Oh yeah but you go ahead and label "nice dress" harassment... If it wasn't so sad, it'd be funny.

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  7. Re:He must be ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's also being viewed by a lot of women as a first-class ticket to unlimited media attention and a big fat legal payday.

  8. It is your job by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As the head of this company, it is his job to motivate employees. Otherwise known as "making them feel good".

    This is yet another child with money.

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    1. Re:It is your job by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree that making employees feel good isn't an end in itself -- particularly making them feel good all the time. There are times when you,as boss, have to make certain employees feel bad. "Leadership" is just another word for "emotional manipulation".

      That said, working under competent and effective leadership tends to lead to success and that tends to be rewarding for people. If everyone around you is worthless, the problem is almost certainly you.

      After decades in business, I am heartily sick of put-upon managers. It's almost like bragging: despite my good-for-nothing employees, look at how I'm muddling through! And I always think, "why not hire better employees?" It's not that hard: pay a little more, choose a little more carefully, treat the good performers with respect and regularly clear out the deadwood. And yet, while I've met countless put-upon managers in my career, I can count on one hand the ones who made any kind of concerted, systematic effort to hire and retain the best people, and all of them were very successful.

      The only conclusion I can make is that those armies of put-upon managers are actually more comfortable with dysfunction and mediocrity. Most bosses are their own worst enemies; which means as a group they're exactly like most other people, just in a better position to force their personal emotional drama on others.

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  9. Re:He must be ugly by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As it should. A work place is a place where work happens. Bosses hitting on their subordinates shouldn't happen. It's toxic to a work culture. My company has very strong policies about sexual harassment, including a ban on anyone entering into a sexual relationship with a subordinate. While the latter isn't sexual harassment, it's terrible for morale, and can be incredibly disruptive.

    Surely your an adult and you can keep your hands to yourself, and you tongue firmly planted in your mouth when it comes to sexual or even flirtatious comments. And if you are incapable of that, then I would suggest the problem is yours. I know damned few fucking women that come to work hoping their boss or the guy in the cubicle next to them hits on them

    I mean, what the fuck is wrong with you people? Are you all incapable of actually holding down a job that involves working with women? Are you that emotionally-driven that you can't just do your goddamned job and treat your coworkers with dignity and respect? Whether it's sexual harassment, or any other kind of harassment, any boss who doesn't take that seriously is asking for goddamned trouble, up to and including costly lawsuits. If you can't keep it in your pants, literally or metaphorically, then a judge will make you.

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  10. Re:Recipe for success by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or, you know, just keep it in your pants like an adult. I have worked for most of my life with women, some as bosses and supervisors, some as equals, and some as subordinates, and I've never had any issues at all.

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  11. Re:He must be ugly by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ahh, Good old Victim Blaming.
    Because women love all the media attention and judgments, putting their career at risk, just for a payday, that is probably less than a full year wage. Well worth loosing out on a career that you wanted to do all your life.
     

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  12. Re:He must be ugly by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's also being viewed by a lot of women as a first-class ticket to unlimited media attention and a big fat legal payday.

    Yep, this is the new way to make up for the perceived pay-gap women claim they experience.

    It's not a good time to be a guy...especially a white guy. Anyone can hang an accusation of racist, mysoginist, xyz-ist....and it will stick and often cost you as that you are guilty till proven innocent.

    Sure, some of these cases ARE legit, but there are so many out there that are not.

    Guys....you need to be scared of being guys in the workforce.

    Best advice is...DO NOT Attempt to date within the work environment, you are only asking for it....

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  13. Re:Recipe for success by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I get hte impression here that many posters are stark raving terrified of women, and incredibly resentful. I imagine there are all sorts of interesting psychological reasons for these feelings, though I confess I can't quite understand them. As I said elsewhere, I've worked with women my entire working life; they've been my bosses, coworkers, and subordinates, and while I've seen my share of antisocial behavior, I never saw women having any great predilection for that kind of behavior than men. I get that when the two sexes spend a good deal of time together, there's bound to be a certain amount of sexual tension, but we are all supposed to be adults that can manage our feelings and expectations, and understand what is appropriate or inappropriate in a workplace.

    But here the hate and resentment in some circles is just profoundly disturbing. I suppose some of the posters are just genuinely afraid of women, don't really understand them, don't spend any time around them, and thus easily fall into believing in some sort of "us vs. them" narrative that is becoming rather common in men's rights circles. Some perhaps have had bad experiences, and I admit when I've personal relationship problems, it's easy to fall into an emotional and overly generalized view of the opposite sex as being somehow complicit in my own problems. But again, I'm an adult, I manage these feelings, recognize them as wrong and prejudicial, and get over my own hangups.

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  14. Re:He must be ugly by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When a manager has a sexual relationship, or even an emotional affair, with a subordinate, it alters the workplace dynamic. People will inevitably see favoritism, whether it's fair or not, and the manager's response, either to actually show his lover favoritism, or to go to the opposite extreme and be hard on that person as a show of resolve and strength, all have implications. A good manager understands he isn't managing robots, but human beings, who take their cues from management.

    That's not even talking about the fallout of a breakup, which can have legal implications. Frankly I view anyone in management having an affair with a subordinate as a form of employment suicide, and there isn't a lawyer or HR expert in the world that will say "Just tell your girlfriend's peers to mind their own business". They're going to put it on the same level of horrible idea as open bars at company functions. In the risk-assessment world, having affairs with your staff is just one big bad fucking idea.

    That's why the very best policy is not to have affairs with subordinates, and it's why most modern policies either outright ban such relationships, or require that the subordinate move into another department so that they are no longer under the manager's direct supervision. My company is very small, so there aren't enough "departments" as it were, so it's pretty much an outright ban. If I want to have a relationship with one of my staff, one of us is going to have to resign.

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  15. Re:Let's retort. by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the very idea of ascribing specific sexual behaviors to one gender is absurd, and utterly unfounded, and another example of how some posters on Slashdot seem to believe this bizarre notion that all women are whores and all men are testicle-driven morons.

    My company's policy doesn't have gender specific language. It outright bans harassment, so it is irrelevant whether the harasser is a man or a woman, or the victim is a man or a woman. What counts is that the company will not tolerate the behavior, and that it has disciplinary mechanisms at its disposal up to and including termination of employment. Your myths about motivation are irrelevant, pretty much false, and would do the company know favors if it got called into court over a harassment lawsuit.

    Let me ask you. Can you keep your feelings to yourself? Can you gently rebuff someone who comes on to you? Can you control your urges, get through the day, and not hit on coworkers?

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  16. Re:He must be ugly by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It isn't emotion it is biology. So to answer your question...no. I cannot work around women without my body responding biologically. My blood pressure will go up. My hormones are going to kick in. My body will respond physiologically. How I respond to those impulses is up to me. But if, as society says I should, I suppress them it will cause physical illness and in many cases mental illness as well. I'm tired of SJW's who know jack shit about biology act as if there isn't a root cause to all the sexual tension in a mixed gender workplace. Women (all people) should be treated with respect and disrespectful activity should be punished regardless of whether it is sexual in nature or not. But to have a casual compliment branded as harassment because a woman ran to HR after you said her dress was pretty is just INSANE! Extremism on either end of the spectrum needs to be stopped. There should be a middle ground and when there is a misunderstanding it should be addressed in a mature manner. Today maturity is almost non-existent in society. Your response is just as harmful as the guy catcalling. If you have none of the symptoms of biology I elude to above then you are a minority. For most it isn't as black and white as you make it out. And in most situations there are always more than one side to the story. Now put your pitchforks and torches away.

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  17. Re:He must be ugly by hackertourist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But if, as society says I should, I suppress them it will cause physical illness and in many cases mental illness as well. I

    Bullshit. There's nothing unhealthy about getting a grip and acting professionally. People do it all the time. It's called impulse control.

  18. Re:He must be ugly by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's also being viewed by a lot of women as a first-class ticket to unlimited media attention and a big fat legal payday.

    Can you provide a few examples of women who claimed harassment, and received a payout that you feel was unjustified?