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PC Shipments Hit the Lowest Level In a Decade (cnbc.com)

PC shipments are at the lowest levels since 2007. From a report: Gartner said this week that the PC market declined 4.3 percent during the second quarter. The research company said that shipments were at the "lowest quarter volume since 2007," noting the market dropped for the 11th quarter in a row. The report is in stark contrast to another from IDC in April which said that the PC market grew for the first time in five years. Gartner said HP has the largest global market share with 20.8 percent of the market. HP is trailed by Lenovo which has a 19.9 percent share, with shipments down a substantial 8.4 percent since last year. Dell, Apple and Asus finish out the top five players. In the U.S., Gartner suggests Apple's shipments were down 9.6 percent from last year. The research firm didn't give an explanation for why that might have occurred, though Apple was late to refresh its computers with the latest Intel processors. Upgraded Macs just hit the market last month.

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  1. Frost piss. by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Windows 10 did it.

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    1. Re:Frost piss. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why do you say the latest Macs are shit? Are you talking about the non-upgradable RAM soldered to the motherboard, the low-end dual core i5/i7, the weak GPUs (if any), the pointless expensive toys (touch bar), the five years without upgrades for the Mac mini, MacBook Air and Mac Pro, or the fact that OS X started going downhill after 10.5?

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    2. Re:Frost piss. by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Informative

      We're running Dells we bought in 2009 or thereabouts, upgraded to Windows 10 (I know I know). Other than the odd PSU or hard drive blowing up, the machines seem to be working fine for what they are; workstations dedicated to word processing, email and a bit of browsing. I wouldn't want to open really large spread sheets on them, but other than that, they do the job. Every year that we don't have to buy replacement hardware is basically money in the bank for us, and we have a replacement budget in place for total failures like the motherboard. I would expect that in the next year or two these units may begin to fail, so we're looking at new purchases in 2018-19, at which point they'll be ten years old.

      And when we talk about replacements, we're not likely talking about new desktops, but rather going to PCs-on-a-stick like the Lenovo Ideacenters. Again, for many of these computers, we're really talking about wordprocessing, email and browsing, and the advantage of these units is there almost disposable, and providing they last three or four years (we've had some test units running without issue 24 hours a day running videos and slideshows on large flat screen monitors for over a year now), we'd still be ahead of the game on the hardware side.

      So our medium and long term strategies don't involve replacing $400-$600 desktops with similar models. We'll still be buying laptops for the road warriors and certain departments, like finance, where a bit more muscle is needed to run spreadsheets, will still see traditional PCs, but our days of buying a bunch of $500 Dell or HP desktops or towers on a regular refresh are pretty much done, and really, I would expect by the time we do do our big upgrades in 2019, small form inexpensive PCs will probably be a helluva lot more capable. Who knows, maybe in four or five years maybe we won't be buying Windows machines at all.

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    3. Re:Frost piss. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Are you talking about the non-upgradable RAM soldered to the motherboard, the low-end dual core i5/i7, the weak GPUs (if any), the pointless expensive toys (touch bar), the five years without upgrades for the Mac mini, MacBook Air and Mac Pro, or the fact that OS X started going downhill after 10.5?

      You forgot dropping the magsafe power connector, the overpriced SSDs and the reliance on dongles to connect anything. And don't forget the insane price: even if you were to overlook all the other shortcomings, a fully-kitted MBP 15" clicks in at nearly $5,000; that's insane, even for an Apple product.

      I've been in the market for a new MBP for a couple of years, but all those shortcomings leave me happy that my 2010 model has been upgradable to some degree.

    4. Re:Frost piss. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What is crappy graphics on OS X?
      Eve Online looks on OS X the same as on Windows, so does world of warcraft.
      Neither my Mail.app nor Safari.app need a special graphics card.

      Never saw crappy on any computer since 20 years anyway, in what strange world do you live?

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    5. Re:Frost piss. by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not really. It's just that the average person really doesn't need the equivalent of a 1980's supercomputer sitting on their desk for reading e-mail and surfing the web. It used to be that you required a PC to do anything related to computing, and that's just not the case anymore. I was talking to my parents the other day, and told them that when they were ready for their next computer, they should probably just get a simple tablet and hook up a keyboard to it. Anything more for them is just unnecessary overkill, and does more harm than good. They're in their 70's, and are intimidated by technology, so the simple capabilities of a tablet seem best for them.

      Personally, I'm running a 6 year old PC as my main development machine. It was a high-quality PC at the time, costing over $4K. GPU is outdated (I opted for quiet operation rather than the most power), but since my own game isn't really pushing any hardware limits to speak of, that's fine. It's still as snappy as ever. I'll honestly don't even know when I'll consider upgrading, so long as it keeps running.

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  2. No longer a home appliance by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    PC's are alive and well in business, but shrinking at home. They are too expensive and too much trouble to maintain for consumers, in part because Windows is a POC.

    The younger generation can type on virtual (mobile) keyboards as fast as most PC typers such that they don't need a PC for email etc.; and tablets can have plug-in keyboards.

    1. Re:No longer a home appliance by freeze128 · · Score: 3, Funny

      The younger generation can type on virtual (mobile) keyboards as fast as most PC typers

      It doesn't count if their accuracy is terrible, even WITH autocorrect.

  3. Useless article by Misagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    TFA does not link to the original data, and it is referring to results of only the last quarter.
    Does it count only brand-name PCs or the industry as a whole? Are they counting revenue, turnover or number of units sold?
    It does not say. Therefore you can't really infer anything from it.

    The gaming PC community is the one most willing to spend a lot of money on new computers. That community is thriving.
    While a good gaming PC today costs about the same as a gaming PC did twenty years ago, low-end PCs for office work have gone down in price considerably and there is little incentive to upgrade.

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  4. Performance plateau by ArchieBunker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A dual core box from 10 years ago is still plenty of power for what most people are doing. It still browses fine and plays YouTube without any problems as well. No big shocker there. Sure we have cores into double digits but clock speeds aren't any faster. Software has become bloated at the same pace. Go back 20 years to 1997. Your browser renders pages as quickly today as it did back then.

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  5. Re:Obvious really. by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People may be, but the big drivers of PC sales, particularly in the over $500 range or businesses, and in particular the enterprise, and quite frankly the extra cycles and RAM that come with newer desktops don't really confer much advantage for many applications. It's one thing if it's the guys in the engineering department who need hefty workstations, or the guys editing videos or running financial simulations, but the bulk of most offices are people churning out documents, emailing and working on fairly modest spreadsheets, and most of the hardware put out in five or six years ago (or even longer, as I can attest), can do that without issue. Even if you're making money hand over fist, why would you replace perfectly good hardware? Not replacing hardware means you make even more money.

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  6. Duh. by saccade.com · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I cringe every time I read one of these stories. It's not the 1990s anymore. The market for PCs is fully saturated, and any purchases are generally for replacement. Specs no longer double every 18-24 months, so replacement is needed only when something breaks or the GPU is no longer supported by the OS. I owned my last PC for seven years, and the current one will easily last that long.

  7. The Blame List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why I haven't upgraded:

    • 1. BAD GUY: Microsoft. Their obnoxiousness on Windows 10 and built in spyware has been too much. I'm not upgrading to that piece of shit and now my development is all for the web anyway. HEY MICROSOFT: You're idiots. Instead of giving people a reason to upgrade you gave them a reason to NOT upgrade.
    • 2. BAD GUY: Shit laptop keyboards. Older laptops have better keyboards than than chiclet "Island" crap. HEY MANUFACTURERS: No one gives a fuck about "thinner" any more. Try "better" instead.
    • 3. GOOD GUYS: Intel and AMD have made CPUs so powerful that even a 5 year old CPU has more than enough juice.
    • 4. GOOD GUYS: Cellular Phones. Fine for anything but typing. See 2.

      Conclusion: Unless you're a gamer your old PC is fine.