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Ask Slashdot: Why Do So Many of You Think Carrying Cash Is 'Dangerous'?

An anonymous reader writes: Recently, I asked Slashdot what you thought about paying for things online using plastic, and the security of using plastic in general; thank you all for your many and varied responses, they're all much appreciated and gave me things to consider.

However, I got quite a few responses that puzzled me: People claiming that paying for things with cash, and carrying any amount of cash around at all, was somehow dangerous, that I'd be "robbed," and that I shouldn't carry cash at all, only plastic. I'm Gen-Y; I've walked around my entire life, in all sorts of places, and have never been approached or robbed by anyone, so I'm more than a little puzzled by that.

So now I ask you, Slashdotters: Why do you think carrying cash is so dangerous? Where do you live/spend your time that you worry so much about being robbed? Have you been robbed before, and that's why you feel this way? I'm not going to stop carrying cash in my wallet but I'd like to understand why it is so many of you feel this way -- so please be thorough in your explanations.

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  1. Just last week, downtown Philly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was robbed by a millennial looking to raise money for a gender reassignment operation

    1. Re:Just last week, downtown Philly... by unrtst · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Somewhat in the same vein, I'd be worried about NOT having any cash, should I get mugged by someone that can and is willing to cause harm. What's he going to do with some useless plastic? Hand them a couple 20's and maybe save your keys, wallet, and health.

      Maybe it's not so bright to regularly carry large amounts of cash (as in hundreds or more), but I don't see how anyone would think having a handful of 20's would hurt.

      My girlfriend has been unsuccessfully mugged 3 times in NYC, in two different boroughs, and one of those times it was an old friend. So there's definitely evidence that you can safely escape a mugging, but it's also evidence that they're frequent enough that it's likely to happen to you at some point, assuming you frequent such areas.

    2. Re:Just last week, downtown Philly... by sphealey · · Score: 4, Informative

      = = = FYI, I have lived in large metro areas with blistering crime rates for my entire life = = =

      Note that other than a few unfortunate smaller cities and a specific region of one larger city (the south side of Chicago), violent crime rates in the United States have been plunging since 1990 and now stand at 40% of the modern peak in 1980. I'm partial to the "no more lead in gasoline" theory myself, but whatever the reason living in the US is safer than it probably ever has been and actually not bad by the standards of the rest of the developed world.

    3. Re: Just last week, downtown Philly... by Aighearach · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It does often work. I've had similar experiences. Just a couple weeks ago a guy was following me for awhile, and when he started speeding up to catch up to me, I turned down a really dark alley, and then slowed waaaaaay down, but didn't look back. He took a couple steps down that alley, paused, and ran away.

      You don't have to be a bad-ass of any sort, you just have to be in the less desirable target category. Typically, smiling at them and showing no fear works best. You don't want to challenge them; they're probably operating from the "lizard brain." They would be willing to pick a fist fight with a grenade if it insulted their moms, so you don't want to be like "f* you." But you might get away with, "No thanks. No thanks, I don't want any." It is the real-life "these are not the droids you're looking for." Their weak minds just can't operate fast enough to fit it into their immediate task, so they move on to the next victim.

    4. Re:Just last week, downtown Philly... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your $500 Android is more valuable to them than a couple of tens or twenties

      Depends on whether they're opportunistic or if they've been doing it enough to have contacts with fences (a fairly small proportion of muggers, according to a criminologist friend). In the US and EU, you can block a phone from being able to connect to any mobile network very quickly after it's been stolen, so most legitimate second-hand phone shops will not pay cash for a phone from a walk in - it may turn into a brick before they can sell it. The only people that will buy a known stolen mobile are people with contacts that can ship them abroad, typically to the middle east (where the operators don't bother with the block lists, because locally stolen phones are not a big issue and a lot of their customers have phones stolen abroad and would be unhappy if they stopped working). They'll typically only pay the thief $20 for that $400 phone, so the $20 in your wallet is more valuable because they don't have to go to the fence to be able to spend it.

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  2. Holding it wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If a thief can tell from a distance whether you are carrying cash or credit cards, well, you are holding it wrong.

  3. Cash never fails. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To the people who think carrying cash is dangerous: cash never fails to complete a transaction.

    https://arstechnica.com/business/2014/10/slow-credit-card-verification-lands-florida-man-in-jail/

    When your card gets declined, in some circumstances, you may get arrested. So there's another form of "dangerous" when relying solely on plastic as a form of payment.

    1. Re:Cash never fails. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I was at a grocery store a few weeks ago, the power was out. Much to my surprise, they stayed open and I purchased my groceries - those with no cash couldn't buy anything as the old slide card machines no longer exist I guess.

    2. Re:Cash never fails. by spoot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Here in Austin, there are a few establishments that don't accept cash, only plastic. Chi'Lantro comes to mind. And although they are right up the street, I don't go anymore. You won't accept my greenbacks, I'll take my biz elsewhere. (going back to yelling at the clouds now)

    3. Re:Cash never fails. by spire3661 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The key term being 'creditor'. This really only applies to debts. A merchant has no obligation to take cash before the fact but he has to take cash if you are in 'debt'. A sit down restaurant that serves you first and then presents a bill HAS to take cash. A walk-up counter style restaurant does not.

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  4. The nudie bar. by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Limit the amount of cash you bring into the nudie bar, 'cause you won't be leaving with any.

    Protip: The Bundy Dollar...

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  5. I carry cash. by kurt555gs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't feel comfortable if I go out with at least a couple hundred in cash with me. Always have. If you get robbed throwing a significant roll and running the other way is the safest thing you can do. Thieves hate it if they only get five bucks. Of course I forgot to mention that I also carry a gun. ( Legally with a concealed carry license ).

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    1. Re:I carry cash. by skids · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Scenario A

      1) Crack head needs $20 for a hit, ASAP
      2) Crack head holds you up for $50
      3) Crack head leaves to go buy crack

      Scenario B

      1) Crack head needs $20 for a hit, ASAP
      2) Crack head holds you up for $4.35
      3) Crack head takes you at gunpoint to an ATM
      4) Crack head robs you for $350
      5) Crack head laves to go buy crack

  6. Several reasons... by dbwells · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Like any decision, it isn't just cost, but cost/benefit. If I basically never need cash, why carry it? The risk is really small, sure, but the benefit is small, too. Second, I misplace things.

    1. Re:Several reasons... by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In a capitalist society, cash is freedom. Being cashless is to become a slave, you no longer buy anything, you ask permission from your master to have it, your master can say no at any time and you will never realise or accept that until it happens and you are now screwed.

      Why do people claim cash is unsafe because credit card companies pay public relations and marketing agencies to fucking lie for them. They are basically a pack of parasites who scam a profit from turnover they contribute nothing to, basically stealing middle men. As such they pay millions upon millions in advertising to make their percentage thefts of your money desirable. Oh noes if you carry cash, the banditoes will hunt you down and kill you for it, on noes you wont get cash discounts when buying stuff, ohh wait that's the wrong way round, ignore that one.

      Cash, it's what you use, if you want tradesmen to turn up when you want them, it's what you use when you want a good, quick job done and maybe a few extra's thrown in for free and it is also what you use when you want a way better price (often half of the alternative price) and it is also what you use when you do not want to pay the credit card parasites any real money.

      Why the push for cashless, master and slaves in capitalism, that's why and slaves do not have cash, they only carry a permission slip from their master. Want a cashless society, get rid of capitalism first.

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  7. Cash is dangerous ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... if you are a government that feels the need to monitor it's citizens every move. But for them to come out and say that cash is bad would just tip their hand. So they brainwash a few people into spreading the propaganda for them. With reasons like "You'll get robbed" and "Cash is only for illegal transactions".

    Pretty soon, enough weak-minded people will believe this and plead with the government to please come and take their cash and replace it with something that leaves an audit trail.

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    1. Re:Cash is dangerous ... by eaglesrule · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the other hand you have the omnipresent corporations vying to create a perfect profile of you and your spending habits. Anonymous transactions would be the natural enemy of those who sell your consumer information to insurance companies, for example, so I suppose it is to be expected to see shill posts downplaying the benefits of carrying cash.

      Personally, I use credit and a store loyalty card for buying healthy food, and cash only for junk food and alcohol. I may not be able to control where my data ends up, but at least I can fuck with it.

  8. I've never been robbed... by brokenin2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...at least of cash like you're talking about..

    I've also always heard people say it was dangerous to carry cash, but I don't think it is that much.. At least for robbery.. I know myself though, and I'd be sure to accidentally lose it if I carried cash.. Nobody to blame but myself, but it's still "dangerous" for me to carry cash.

    My dad always carried cash though, and one time in the early years of his dementia he got lost (forgot where he parked) and ended up wandering around town. He's diabetic, and his blood sugar got way off exacerbating the situation. Some good samaritans stopped to help him out when he started looking like he had a real problem, and ended up searching his wallet to try to figure out how to help him (calling family or whatever).. When it was all said and done, at least three different complete strangers had dug through his wallet in their efforts to try to help him. When we met up at the hospital later and security passed his belongings along to us, we found that he had a little over $1000 dollars in his wallet still. Now, I have no idea for sure what he started with, but I'm pretty sure it was exactly what he still had in there at the end of the day.

    The whole incident really made me rethink that whole "people are always trying to steal from you" mentality that we get pounded into us by the pessimists of society. I think generally people almost always do the right thing when given the chance, which I guess includes not robbing you of your cash in your wallet.

  9. It's not dangerous by quonset · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I carry cash when I need to spend it, not simply to have something in my pocket, and not once has anyone, anywhere, ever tried to rob me.

    Those whiners who think carrying cash is dangerous are the same ones who will whine about how dangerous flying in planes is when there's a crash. That completely ignores the 10,000 other takeoffs and landings which took place that same day without an issue.

    What is dangerous is carrying a cell phone. Between running into objects or distracted driving because you're engrossed with whatever text message you're trying read/send, having a cell phone is orders of magnitude more dangerous than carrying cash. This doesn't even include people robbing you of your cell phone which then gives them access to your accounts because you've conveniently put all that information on your phone.

    The question becomes, which is worse: losing the few dollars you had in your pocket, or giving someone access to all your bank accounts?

  10. Short answer...law enforcement officers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm not afraid of carrying cash in smaller amounts; but, if you carry large amounts of cash and are pulled over and the police find out about it, odds are they will confiscate it and you will never get it back. It's the new highway robbery. I'm not gonna do the Google search for you but there are plenty of cases.

  11. Dangerous? No. Risky? Yes. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You could put your whole life savings in a backpack, and if you didn't let anyone see that your backpack was full of cash, you'd be in no greater danger at all than carrying an equal volume of anything else in your backpack. But what if someone just randomly stole your backpack? The odds of this happening weren't any greater than if you packed the backpack full of dead weasels, but you would've just lost your life savings.

    So I usually don't carry more than $200 in my wallet to keep the risk down, but there's nothing inherently dangerous about carrying cash, unless you let other people know how that you're carrying a remarkably large amount of cash. Flashing large amounts of cash is dangerous.

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  12. I've heard from both sides by Pollux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know someone who was the victim of a purse snatch. Purse found in a back alley just a few blocks away, and all the perp took was cash. I also know a family member who had his debit card stolen and about $1,200 of purchases racked up on it in 24 hours. (Yes, he only had $50 in liability, but he said the time spent on jumping through every phone call and piece of paperwork was a pain.) Your money is just as much at risk in either scenario.

    As for me, I hardly ever carry cash. Not because I'm afraid to, but because it's a lifestyle choice. If I have cash in my pocket, I'm far more likely to spend it, as well as spend it on unnecessary things, and not keep track of how much I have left. Though, I know many who say the same about debit cards.

    So, I guess, to each their own.

  13. Paris by Tailhook · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Robbed on the Metro. They can spot foreigners and know that foreigners carry cash because only idiots travel without cash. Got hit in the ribs and lost $900. Got beat for a bike once. I don't mention the nice things I own to people; one of their menace kids gets wind of it and they'll dwell on it for years, watching for an opening. Saw this happen twice to my father, once to an uncle and also a former employer.

    If you're a healthy young male living the dream on the posh side of town during daylight hours no one will mess with you. The minute you venture outside your little safespace or appear vulnerable at the wrong time they'll jump your ass. Flash some cash in a liquor store some time. You'll find out. You claim experience in "all sorts of places" but I'll bet that anyone goofy enough to pose this question on Slashdot hasn't got clue number one.

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  14. Re:Robbed by Bank with Late Fees & High Intere by Rockoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You carry a card around that can reach into your bank account?

    Let that sink in for a bit. If you are going to use plastic, the only rational choice is credit cards.

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  15. Cash used to be dangerous by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    100 years ago, there was no such thing as plastic and checks were untrustworthy. To buy most things, you had to carry cash. Worse, banks were not open 24/7, and was inconvenient. Say you go on vacation. A good vacation now a day can easily cost you $1000 a week, plus transportation. Say $2,500 for a two week vacation. Family of four, double that to $5,000.

    Would you walk around with $5,000 in your pocket today? If everyone around you KNEW that you are holding that kind of cash? In a warm, tropical country where people could live for a year on that kind of cash?

    Before the modern financial methods - credit and checks, walking around with cash WAS dangerous. Very dangerous. That was why travelers checks became popular. Eventually other methods caught up and became just as trusted and accepted. So you don't have to carry a lot of it.

    But 100 years ago, walking around with cash was freakin' dangerous. Now, it is pretty darn safe because we carry much less cash, and the potential muggers know it.

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  16. I've been robbed... by sunking2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of what used to be a halfway decent excuse of a tech website.

  17. Cash is the least of your worries by kondro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having a few hundred in your pocket is nothing compared to the $1000 phone, $1000 tablet, $3000 computer, etc that we're all carrying around with us and display very visibly.

  18. CorpGov Despises Cash by Lacrocivious+Acropho · · Score: 5, Insightful

    CorpGov wants to track everyone. Everywhere. Always. Cash is difficult to monitor. With your Personal Tracking Device in your pocket, and your identify-linking electronic purchases absolutely tagged to you and you alone, CorpGov feasts. They get to do whatever they want with everything you do that they can track, and what is more definitive and commercially valuable than what you buy? And where? And when? So of course CorpGov is doing everything it can to sow the seeds of doubt about the safety of carrying cash, which they cannot so easily track. As if they held your interests in mind at all, let alone paramount. 'Cash Is Dangerous' is true to the degree that you are Sheeple.

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  19. manufactured danger by cas2000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    cash is dangerous because visa and mastercard don't get their cut of small transactions like buying a coffee, nor can they track your location and spending habits to enhance the value of the data about you that they sell.

    so they force paypass/paywave on everyone by making it impossible to get even a debit card without them, and then spend a lot on advertising to let everyone know how dangerous and scary and inconvenient cash is.

  20. Cops Steal Cash by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you have a lot of cash, that's "evidence" of drug crimes, even absent drugs, and the cops will take your money, put it on trial (cash is bad at defending itself and does not get an attorney), and buy boats, pinball machines and hookers with your money.

    ^ None of that is an exaggeration.

    http://dailysignal.com/2015/10...

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  21. Actually it's the opposite... by dark.nebulae · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You want to carry some cash, like $40 or something, in case you actually do get robbed.

    Someone hard up for cash that is desperate enough to walk up and mug you will be even more aggressive if they get nothing out of it.

    Having some token cash to turn over will satisfy their immediate need and usually end the transaction without physical harm.

  22. Yes, but I don't by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, I have been robbed. But I don't have even the slightest fear of carrying cash. I think I'm safer carrying at least a couple of 20s -- you never know when an emergency happens, and cards don't work for every situation, where cash does.

    Here's the thing -- criminals don't know if I'm carrying cash or not until they rob me, and if I'm being robbed, losing my cash would be the least of my problems. Losing my ID, phone, and various important cards in my wallet are much, much larger problems, and that would happen whether or not I have cash.

  23. Re:Robbed by Bank with Late Fees & High Intere by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why? The only difference in liability is what a company decides. In many countries you are no more lake for fraud on your debit card than fraud on your credit card.

    Think you're safe because in credit you can reuse to pay the bill? Well in the good old US of A your credit rating is far more important than you bank balance.