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Amazon Prime Is a Blessing and a Curse For Remote Towns (vice.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Motherboard: If access to Prime is reduced, or in some cases, cut off, it can leave many remote towns in the lurch. One dozen five-gallon barrels of hydraulic oil. A 2x4x8 of lumber. A pallet's worth of 10-ply, heavy-duty truck tires. These are just a few of the heavy, cumbersome orders one Redditor on the Alaska subreddit claimed to have ordered from Amazon Prime, with free shipping, before users started to notice difficulty finding eligible products. For many remote and rural communities in the U.S. and Canada, the arrival of Amazon Prime, with its low prices and free, expedient shipping was a boon. Hard-to-get or expensive products were now accessible, and reasonably priced to boot. For the cost of a membership (which now runs $99 per year), residents were able to get deals on everything from food to diapers to truck tires. But sometimes when something seems too good to be true, it is. Prime has proven to be a bit of a double-edged sword for many of these communities. Residents become dependent on Prime as local retailers struggle to compete. If access to Prime is reduced, or in some cases, cut off, it can leave many remote towns in the lurch.

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  1. But what if... by aicrules · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So what happens to many remote towns if access to Prime is reduced, or in some cases, cut off?

    1. Re:But what if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe they will abandon their unviable communities out in the middle of nowhere.

    2. Re: But what if... by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Mixed bag situation. Before, it was home town store owner. Upper middle class family in small town charging outrageous prices. It was a boon to the rest of the people when Walmart came in and drove down the cost of living.

      It goes in cycles. Always has, always will.

  2. This was Sears' model...100 years ago by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anyone else remember the song about the "Wells Fargo Wagon" from 76 Trombones? That was the end result of a remote order business hooked up to a rail-backed transportation system.

    See also "Sears Catalog Home":
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_Catalog_Home

  3. Dumping by Hentes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is an old trick: sell goods/services below their cost until you drive out competition. You have to swallow some massive losses at first, but in the end you'll secure yourself a monopoly.

  4. Re:Amazon's shipping is crazy by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Informative

    >> There's no way Amazon didn't loose money on that.

    Read these articles to learn about how/why Amazon does this:
    https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/03/25/how-prime-makes-amazon-profitable.aspx
    http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2014/9/4/why-amazon-has-no-profits-and-why-it-works
    http://time.com/4084897/amazon-amzn-aws/

    In other words, they seem to cover the cost of the occasional dick move (which I'm guilty of too occasionally) by soaking the suckers who overpay for Prime memberships (i.e., who don't fully use their benefits - many subscription models like gyms are also based on this). Then they float in money from their insanely profitable cloud services to make Wall Street happier about the low profitability of their ecomm business, and to keep fueling marketing expansion.

    I think someday (dunno when), there will be "peak Amazon" when other competitors (e.g., Walmart) finally figure out how to leverage local store-based distribution and logistics, draining all profits from the retail side and causing it to spin off some weaker bets. I think we also need to keep an eye on Google's cloud platform, which appears to do everything Amazon's cloud does only better and cheaper, and could put a big dent in Amazon's cloud cash cow.

  5. Isolated, remote delivery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Years ago, not long after becoming a Prime member, I was renting a cottage in a very remote location in the middle of a national forest for a couple weeks. This location was without mail delivery. Population density of the county is maybe two dozen per square mile, so not the sparsest but fairly low density.

    I ran an experiment, set that as my main address in Prime, and ordered something (I don't even remember what.) Imagine my surprise two days later when I heard the delivery truck hustling down the country road 4 miles away!

    If only that place had consistent, reliable internet service (Verizon worked if you held your phone just right in certain places and the cottage was equipped with Wild Blue? satellite internet) I could see setting up shop semi-permanently, provided I could find a job that allowed me to work remotely.

    But I was always concerned about dependency on delivery service, it seemed like a fluke that it worked, there's no way that was economically viable for Amazon.

  6. Re:Yes, yes, we get it by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, the story is telling a very different story. Amazon Prime endangers local stores. They will close shop, making you fully dependent on Amazon Prime in the end. Which is of course when they'll yank that carpet out under your feet and charge you through the nose for ... well, anything you might want or need.

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  7. Re:Yes, yes, we get it by Ogive17 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Amazon is the new Walmart, it's been happening for decades just with a different store name.

    At a certain point if all local competition is forced to close and Amazon yanks that carpet out, some local entrepreneur will find a way to purchase goods in bulk and sell them cheaper than Amazon but still at a profit. There will be some growing pains but I think this is a case where competition can never be completely removed and prices will remain reasonable.

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  8. I do by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Informative

    And it was the Music Man. 76 Trombones was one of the songs. God I'm old.

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  9. Re:Yes, yes, we get it by sexconker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's not forget Amazon Fresh, which is next level grocery shopping. Have you heard of Prime Now? They delivered diapers to me while I was in Disney World and saved my marriage.

    If your spouse can't handle the fact that sometimes you shit your pants, they don't really love you.