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Russia Says in Talks With US To Create Cyber Security Working Group (reuters.com)

Posted by msmash on from the up-next dept.

An anonymous reader shares a brief report on Reuters: Moscow and Washington are in talks to create a joint cyber security working group, RIA news agency reported on Thursday, citing Russia's special envoy on cyber security Andrey Krutskikh. Further reading: CBS News.

158 comments

  1. At least they're honest by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trump says:

    Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded..

    To which I can only say, at least he's being honest. He wants to guard the election hacking and many other negative things. He's not saying that he wants to guard against election hacking, but he wants to guard the election hacking to prevent American law enforcement from interfering and allowing fair elections.

    Seriously, though, we need to get this guy out of office. Just yesterday, he admitted that he wouldn't have appointed Sessions to Attorney General if he'd known that Sessions wasn't going to help cover up his campaign's collusion with the Russian government. Even if Putin weren't involved, Trump's involvement already means that this wouldn't should not be trusted with the security of our elections.

    1. Re:At least they're honest by Enigma2175 · · Score: 4, Funny

      In other news, the US has decided to outsource all henhouse guarding in the country to We Are Foxes, Inc. Proponents claim this will save the country eleventy kajillion dollars per year.

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    2. Re: At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yoy have jusy won the idiot of the day competition

    3. Re:At least they're honest by DigiShaman · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Oh please. Robert Mueller investigation into Trump is staffed with people whom have had direct campaigning with the Clintons. His scope into the investigation is unlimited. The point isn't to nail Trump on anything with Russia; no, that's bonus points. Rather, this entire *legalized* fishing expedition into trump is to gather anything that could be used against him and the GOP for the 2020 election cycle. In addition, to slog the Trump administration down so effectively he's a lame duck president that can't push anything through the door policy-wise.

      It's a cold civil war. You know it. I know it. We all know it. Anything goes. No matter who ends up winning, we all lose. If Trump doesn't end up as the next Julius Caesar, totalitarianism will just take another form via the "Deep State".

      America is done! The only question is what happens next?

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    4. Re: At least they're honest by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yoy have jusy won the idiot of the day competition

      Try having less to drink at lunch. You'll be amazed at what you can accomplish.

      Well, Ivan and Boris do like a nip of Vodka with all their meals.

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    5. Re:At least they're honest by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh please. Robert Mueller investigation into Trump is staffed with people whom have had direct campaigning with the Clintons.

      In a country with for all practical purposes only two parties, you sided with one or the other, no getting around it.

      But does it matter? If they find bonafide "wrong-doing", it bonafide "wrong-doing" no matter who discovers it. And, a biased Libertard Snowflake Demobrat is more likely to uncover the dirt both because they are more motivated to find something, and it has been established that Trump's supporters at the high level of Dirt Investigators are predisposed to miraculously find nothing at all.

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    6. Re:At least they're honest by DigiShaman · · Score: 0

      There's enough dirt to go around (Arkancide has been strong this month) to implicate everybody high in office. Really, it' just a matter of who has the spotlight, and where it's to be shined on for public media consumption.

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    7. Re:At least they're honest by nine-times · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh please. Robert Mueller investigation into Trump is staffed with people whom have had direct campaigning with the Clintons.

      So first, I've heard about this accusation, and then heard disputes, claiming that some people had been somewhat involved with campaigning for Clinton, while others were Republicans. I haven't investigated that myself, but it seemed worth mentioning.

      And honestly, beside all of that, these people are respected independent investigators. And even if they were biased against Trump, it's not entirely a conflict of interest for an investigator to be biased against the people they're investigating. If a police officer is investigating you for murder, it's not really a defense to say, "I must be innocent because the police officer doesn't like me." If a police officer thinks that you're a murderer, you could expect that he wouldn't like you. It'd be far more of a conflict of interest for the investigator to be a political ally.

      If you had some evidence that Mueller is trying to frame Trump or misrepresent the facts, that'd be one thing. As far as I've heard, no one reputable has raised any doubt about Mueller's ethics.

      And beside all that, they've already been caught. No need for a fishing expedition. No need to frame anyone. The Trump campaign colluded with Russia. First the defense was, "we didn't collude," then it was, "we colluded a little, but there wasn't anything illegal," and now it's turned into, "it may have been a little illegal, but those laws don't count." We know there were meetings with people representing the Russian government to coordinate efforts to influence the election, which coincided with Russia hacking Democrats, hacking election systems, and pushing an advanced propaganda campaign. There were multiple meetings and communications between many people in the Trump campaign and the Russians, they tried to hide it, they lied about it under oath, and now they're caught.

      There's still work for investigators to do. It's not enough to know it. They need hard proof of violation of specific laws. They want to know exactly what was done, how, and by whom. That'll take a while. But we already know they did it.

    8. Re: At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. I would love to see both parties colapse and lose all voter support. D and R indicate corruption. Investigate them all, continuously. Maybe then we won't have lifetime politicians.

    9. Re:At least they're honest by DigiShaman · · Score: 1, Troll

      Trump didn't collude with Russia. If he did, there would already be articles of impeachment and Pence would be the acting POTUS. Period. The GOP establishment wants nothing to do with the fallout! As for CNN and the rest of the mainstream media. Everything they've reported has either been exaggerated from supposition or outright fabricated. Essentially everything brought out against Trump in this regard is a big giant nothing burger.

      As for the accusations, they're true. http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/...

      As for Robert Mueller himself has close ties to Comey. While is in of itself isn't a problem per se, it's highly biased. For a high profile investigation, Mueller shouldn't even be leading this. It's more or less a conflict of interest.

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    10. Re:At least they're honest by PCM2 · · Score: 0

      Oh please. Robert Mueller investigation into Trump is staffed with people whom have had direct campaigning with the Clintons.

      And this means anything, given that neither Clinton currently holds public office nor has announced plans to run?

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    11. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, let it never be said that words have any logical meaning now that Trump has been president.

    12. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you must have misread the headline. They outsourced the guarding of henhouse egg exfiltrations, not the guarding of henhouses.

    13. Re:At least they're honest by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      She's protecting herself from going to jail. By accusing someone else for the very actions she's been involved in (collusion with Russia), it make it all more difficult for the shift in blame to be shifted back to her; specifically if it's over the same thing. She's smart to be pro-active in deflecting her criminal activity.

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    14. Re:At least they're honest by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Trump didn't collude with Russia. If he did, there would already be articles of impeachment and Pence would be the acting POTUS. Period.

      First, the investigation isn't done. You don't really want to start a trial before you've gathered all the evidence you think you need. Second, impeachment is a political process, not a law enforcement process, and so it's entirely dependent on the majority of Congress deciding they want to bring charges. I think we've already seen that the Republicans want to cover this up.

      As for the accusations, they're true. http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/... [cnn.com]

      Umm... let's look at this article. First sentence:

      Three members of the legal team known to have been hired so far by special counsel Robert Mueller to handle the Russia investigation have given political donations almost exclusively to Democrats

      So *three* members. Three out of five. Three of them have given political donations "almost exclusively" to Democrats. From the use of the word "almost", we can conclude that they didn't give money exclusively to Democrats. It says later in the article that one of the three donated to Jason Chaffetz and George Allen, both Republicans.

      And that's just political donations, not active campaigning. It's not terribly uncommon for people to donate some money to a political party. So what do you want? You want to disqualify anyone who ever donated money to a Democratic campaign from working on the investigation? That'd be absurd.

      As for Robert Mueller himself has close ties to Comey. While is in of itself isn't a problem per se, it's highly biased.

      You mean biased toward ethics and fair enforcement of the law? I'll take that bias. And if Mueller is so terrible, why was he being considered for the head of the FBI? Why was he appointed by the Deputy Attorney General. Why is it that of all the major Republican figures, only Trump has anything bad to say about Mueller?

      I mean, exercise a little judgement. Think for yourself, at least a little bit.

    15. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's not entirely a conflict of interest for an investigator to be biased against the people they're investigating.

      Modded up. Twice.

      Really?

      It's also not a conflict of interest for a police officer in Detroit to be a member of the KKK. /s

    16. Re:At least they're honest by DigiShaman · · Score: 1, Troll

      I know you don't get it. Most people don't. And no, you're not a smart as you think you are.

      The fact is the GOP Establishment (Washington DC) is in alignment with Democrats with mutual (but differing in other areas) interests. In effect, it's Trump vs. the World at the political and geo-political level. So here comes Trump, trolled the entire process, and WON election. Shell-shocked the fuck of the entire political echo chamber. I mean, how could "the pussy grabber" win?? Easy. Real real easy! He wasn't a conservative. This wasn't an election about values. It was an election about justice. It was rural vs urban. And, it's being played out all over the world. It's how the Brexit happened. It's how the world is pivoting away from Globalism due to the stratification of wealth it has caused, eviscerating the middle-class in the process.

      Ok, so again your asking "why Mueller?". Notice all the others that smell opportunity after a Trump victory? Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos (maybe), Kid Rock, Dwayne Johnson - AKA The Rock...all of them are OUTSIDERS. Even to a lesser extent, Bernie Sanders was an outsider to the DNC. In fact, the Deep State FBI is going after his wife. Never mind the fact the Clintons have entire cemeteries while Jane had few skeletons in the closet. The DC establishment has a few fires to put out, and they will punish and stamp out anyone who's not them. They will not let that insolence to their way of life stand!

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    17. Re:At least they're honest by skids · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      There's enough dirt to go around

      Whatever, Trump is dirtier than socks. So obviously, that he is a national embarrassment. Doesn't matter how much other dirt is around, he is the skidmark on the national underwear, and gets top priority on laundry day.

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    18. Re:At least they're honest by skids · · Score: 1

      Notice all the others that smell opportunity after a Trump victory?

      You forgot: workplace sex pigs, real estate money launderers, and just about every con artist in the world. To them, the election was a declaration that it is open season.

      Really, just the encouragement the Trump victory provides to the worst assholes humanity has to offer represents a huge amount of damage to society.

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    19. Re:At least they're honest by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. -C. S. Lewis

      Yeah, I'd rather have sleazeballs in office than someone ideological do-gooder whom thinks they know what's better for me, and proceeds to act on it to the detriment of my actual wellbeing.

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    20. Re:At least they're honest by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    21. Re:At least they're honest by skids · · Score: 1

      By accusing someone else for the very actions she's been involved in

      Oooh. A meta-Rovian-flip. The absurdity has started to eat its own tail.

      Then:
      "I love my grandchildren so much, but if I talk about them for more than nine or 10 seconds ... after that, what are you going to say? ... I love golf, but after speaking about golf for a couple minutes, it’s tough.”"

      Now:
      "I went down just to say hello to Melania, and while I was there I said hello to Putin. Really, pleasantries more than anything else. It was not a long conversation, but it was, you know, could be 15 minutes(sic). Just talked about things"

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    22. Re:At least they're honest by nine-times · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know you don't get it. Most people don't. And no, you're not a smart as you think you are.

      Geeze. What, are you 15 years old?

      The fact is the GOP Establishment (Washington DC) is in alignment with Democrats with mutual (but differing in other areas) interests. In effect, it's Trump vs. the World at the political and geo-political level.

      And Trump is such a rebel against the Republican Establishment that he's just been turning to the Republican party and saying, "Let's do whatever you want. Give me bills, and I'll sign them. I don't really care what they do." He's so against globalism that he recently moved to expand a program to bring in unskilled immigrant labor.

      The truth is, you've been played. Worse, the guy who played you is only barely trying to hide it. It's like you're watching a magician who says, "Hey, watch me 'saw my assistant in half'. Right? I mean, obviously you can't saw a person in half, but I'm going to do it. That's the trick!" And then you see his assistant climb out of the box's false bottom, but you're still sitting there in awe, saying, "This guy is brilliant! I can't even figure out how he did it!"

      This wasn't an election about values. It was an election about justice. It was rural vs urban. And, it's being played out all over the world. It's how the Brexit happened. It's how the world is pivoting away from Globalism due to the stratification of wealth it has caused, eviscerating the middle-class in the process.

      Well, no, it was an election about values. One of the chief values was "fuck Democrats". Also, "I want to get mine, even if the rest of the world goes down the tubes." And also, "we need to get rid of all these Mexicans and Muslims, and put these black people in jail."

      And really, it wasn't about urban vs. rural. It was about cosmopolitanism vs nationalism far more than that. It was about pro-authoritarian xenophobic nationalists wanting to give a poke in the eye to "city fags" because "they think they're smarter than me!" There are a lot of apologists who want to make it about, "Oh, these poor coal miners. The coastal elite are in a bubble, out of touch with the poor coal miners." Nope. You had some people who were sold a pack of obvious lies, and some people who were straight up bigots, but it was never about the struggling rural areas or the evisceration of the middle class. Trump isn't doing anything to help those people.

      The rest... it's paranoid nonsense. Try a news source other than InfoWars.

    23. Re:At least they're honest by DigiShaman · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The DNC is the party of pure evil Duh! Of course it was about fucking the Democrats. :) Only true patriots fuck Democrats out of power. The 2ndary mission is to do the same to the GOP.

      I'm a libertarian - small "L". The party is a joke and always will be.

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    24. Re:At least they're honest by nine-times · · Score: 0

      Hah. Joke's on you. I'm also a small "L" libertarian, too... sort of. That is to say I don't think the government should be involved in things it shouldn't need to, except I'm not of the opinion that the government shouldn't need to be involved in anything. That is, I'm a libertarian, not an anarcho-capitalist.

      And also, I think you got your order backwards. Trump is in the process of destroying the GOP right now, and next you'll need to figure out how to deal with Democrats.

    25. Re:At least they're honest by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      GOP is locked in a civil war of its own between Trump being the titular head (though they despise him for that being the POTUS and all), and blue blooded establishment types. The Democrats have just lost their mind. It's pure lunacy what's going on in that party.

      I predict that the DNC will get back into power (the demographs are not in the GOPs favor), but headed by the Silicon Sultans with the siren song of "free shit" and universal income. I mean, the real irony is that they are the cause of all this wealth stratification from the insourcing and outsourcing going on. But let's be real, these Sultans of the west coast are neo feudalist. Let the fun (not) begin!

      Start stacking :)

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    26. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Dems are completely split as well. You have the Hillary Dems, which is why Facebook mentions her popularity level as one of the most talked about topics there, then you have the Bernie Dems who are tired of it all and want to establish relatively sane things (single payer, like the rest of the civilized world, reduce private prisons, legalize/tax, etc.)

      With both parties fractured... the Republicans are behind the current CIC because he is their man. Come election time, it is almost certain that he will score another four years. Even if he is found to have eaten puppies, no Republican house would impeach... and definitely there is 0% chance of a Senate getting a 2/3 vote for convicting.

    27. Re:At least they're honest by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      If he continues to have approval ratings like he does now, and the Democrats can find a relatively decent candidate, I see little likelihood of a second term for Trump. As to impeachment, that all depends on what comes out of the investigations. Right now, with a large portion of the Republican base still behind Trump, Congressional Republicans are in a politically difficult spot; to move openly against him is to basically declare war on your voters. But if his approval ratings continue to fall, and the base starts to erode, then there are going to be a lot of Republicans in the House who will start asking "Is he a liability to my re-election." At the moment, the answer to that question is no, currently Trump is not a liability, but if, in six or nine months, he's suddenly crashing into the low 30s or the high 20s, then yes, his unpopularity will almost certainly have an effect on down ticket races.

      And really, when you look at the situation on Capitol Hill, it's pretty clear that while Republican lawmakers by and large are making plenty of pro-Trump noises, the reality is that they aren't breaking their backs to push his agenda. He's had no significant legislation passed, and the failure of the ACA repeal-and-replace shows just how little political capital Trump really has, to the point that he's left with little more than cheap threats.

      This is the master negotiator, who in reality has so few real negotiating skills that he can't even sell anything to his own party. So even if he survives four years, he'll have been rendered largely impotent. And if he's this unpopular in three years, there's even the possibility that he won't be able to gain his own party's nomination. There are ways to kill the Trump presidency that don't involve lawmakers removing him from office.

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    28. Re:At least they're honest by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Ok, what news source did you read this? Considering there's been nothing about what you speak of in the news (and let's be honest: if there was any kernel of truth to this, it would be all over considering how Russia is the hot topic lately), I think you either made that up or read some sensational story someone else made up.

      The usual claims seems to be about Hillary giving a huge chunk of Uranium in exchange for Clinton Foundation donations. That theory falls apart when you realize Hillary did not have veto power over the decision (only Obama did), nor was she a participant in the decision. Second, the uranium was not (and cannot be) transported out of the US. It remains under control of the US subsidiaries.

      That and the donations people were up in arms about occurred when GWB was president, and it came from the non-Russian founder of the company. The closest we can get to malfeasance here is that the Clinton Foundation did not properly disclose the much smaller donations that happened later

    29. Re:At least they're honest by nine-times · · Score: 3, Interesting

      GOP is locked in a civil war of its own between Trump being the titular head (though they despise him for that being the POTUS and all), and blue blooded establishment types.

      I think that's a misunderstanding of what's going on. There isn't one big unified "establishment" that doesn't like Trump. There are bunch of factions within the Republican party. Most of them don't like Trump. Like... loads and loads of people on all sides of things don't like Trump. It's not because he's disturbing their comfortable status quo, it's because he's a dangerous moron. He's a narcissist and a con man, but he doesn't even understand how things work well enough to fool anyone except people who are even bigger morons.

      But he seems to have reached a deal with the Republican leadership that amounts to this: Republicans will support Trump publicly and try to protect him from his scandals, and Trump will do whatever they say. If Republicans can pass a healthcare bill, he'll sign it, even if it violates all of his campaign promises. Meanwhile, Republicans will try to defend his lining his own pockets and abusing power. It's been an uneasy detente, but Trump is specifically *not* upsetting the comfortable status quo for "the Establishment". He's hurting poor people and minorities, and not the rich and powerful.

      However, even that's starting to break down. Republicans haven't been able to get much done, so while Trump will sign anything that gets put on his desk, that's not very valuable if they can't get a bill to his desk. Meanwhile, his scandals have gone from, "Trump is profiting off of the presidency in ways that are unethical and probably illegal," to "Trump conspired with the Russians to fix the election," so he's becoming harder and harder to defend.

      Of course he tries to make it sound like people are out to get him. It's just like the "vast right-wing conspiracy" that was out to get Bill Clinton. You know the saying, "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get you"? Well, just because people are out to get you doesn't mean you aren't guilty. Trump may have plenty of political enemies, but even the facts that he's willing to concede show a pretty clear pattern of coordinating with Russia, and undermining our national security in order to serve Putin's interests.

    30. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're a special kind of sucker. The kind that is used against the rare honest politician. Your attitude is actually part of the problem.

    31. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean... a bunch of establishment republicans like Comey and Mueller, both of whom have long legal careers... KNOW EACH OTHER?!

      That's incredible and completely destroys any credibility the wait what were we talking about again

      Seriously kid. You should go have a look at what they were saying about Nixon before his impeachment and think about why we have to put the 'gate' suffix on every goshdarn conspiracy these days... also what is with you libertarians being so goshdarn gullible?

    32. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All I can say is " Senator Joe McCarthy must be spinning in his grave."

    33. Re:At least they're honest by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Trump didn't collude with Russia. If he did, there would already be articles of impeachment

      Go ask your Dad how many years it took for Nixon to resign after Watergate hit the papers, then add a few more on to get how long it would take for impeachment even if Republicans didn't control congress.

    34. Re:At least they're honest by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Oh yes I forgot - Hillary uses email, thus whatever crime anyone else does she's done worse.
      Why the fuck are you still pushing this shit? Hillary lost. She's irrelevant, so making up all kinds of stupid shit about here to try to fool readers here does nothing other than demonstrate your contempt for us all whether R, D or none of the above.

    35. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a cold civil war. You know it. I know it. We all know it. Anything goes. No matter who ends up winning, we all lose.

      No. No. Yes. No No. No.

    36. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The obsession you guys have with HRC is astounding. It's been 8 fucking months since the election, you whiny snowflake. Own what you voted.

    37. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of this.

    38. Re:At least they're honest by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      In the world of mass-media and soundbites, politics is governed by the seriousness of the charge and not the nature of the evidence. Contrary to how it's supposed to be.

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    39. Re:At least they're honest by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      You won. Get over it.

      You apparently have admitted that the administration is sleazeballs, and are now trying to justify them by claiming that it could be worse. More people now disapprove of Trump than ever disapproved of Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Busy, Clinton, Bush, or Obama, so it's unclear how it's supposed to be worse.

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    40. Re:At least they're honest by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      http://www.politico.com/story/...

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    41. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd rather have sleazeballs in office

      Why do you hate America?

    42. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This one actually did make me lol. Isn't that cognitive dissonance getting really painful by now?

    43. Re:At least they're honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No he has it wrong. Trump is the guy pretending to saving us from ourselves.

      The USA is supposed to be a government of the people by the people for the people. Reagan said that was a problem.

      Trump has been labeling the government "the Deep State" and tell people its the enemy. The USA has been proud of its free press and free speech for a long time now Trump says "The press are the enemy of the people".

      So apparently the government and the press are the enemies of the people. The only person who is the friend of the people is Trump therefore to save the people he has to de-legitimize the press and have all federal law enforcement report directly to him. Only then will the people be safe from the deep state and lying media. Without the shackles of the constitution and civil liberties Trump will be free to protect us and make sure that we know that the only Truth is whatever comes out of his mouth.

      Ok I feel pretty bad about those people out there that believe strongly in clean living and family values and feel that they have been made fun of in the liberal media for years. We should talk about that. But for the love of god Trump is the most obvious "I want to be your dictator" that there has ever been. He doesn't need to hide it because he figures he has a direct line to this strong base that believes everything he says. He doesn't give a rats ass that he is obvious he knows the rest of us already know what he is up to.

      So listen to a conservative, find that common ground, and demonstrate that Trump's base is no where near as strong as people seem to think it is.

    44. Re:At least they're honest by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      That's right. When is the last time a Democrat recused themselves. I don't ever recall it happening. Going back 50 years. He's disappointed in him because it showed he's weak.

      Obama on the other hand knew it was happening and criticized Trump for indicating it was even a possibility. He even made a speech on it right here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?... space to 17:50. Understand while he's saying this, he knows very well exactly what he is saying can't happen is in fact happening.

      We finally have a real president, probably the first one since Reagan and you hate him. Look into history, understand why you're wrong.

  2. What? Why? by EndlessNameless · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The US and Russia have adversarial interests quite frequently. You can list every country in eastern Europe and the Middle East, and most of them have been a source of contention between the US and Russia in the last 20 years.

    Given that frequency of conflict, why on earth would the US share sensitive technical information? What is Russia offering that Israel, Germany, and the UK aren't?

    The US has a few arrangements already, and those include nations which are both technologically astute and far more friendly than Russia.

    I don't care what Trump says; he knows jack about cyber security. What do the real experts think the US will gain? I.e., private sector and NSA/CIA security analysts.

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    1. Re:What? Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep your friends close... and your enemies closer... Adversarial postures aren't the best way to win friends and influence others...

    2. Re: What? Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Trump doesn't want to listen to the experts because then he would essentially be 'admitting' that they are correct about what Russia did to our election (I'm not talking about collusion, just the Russian meddling/attack).
      That admission would hurt his fragile ego and in his mind would put the legitimacy of his presidency in question.
      He is literally making decisions that make him look 'good', at least in his mind.

      I'm still completely lost on how he is hanging on to the support of his 'base'. I mean I get the whole "Its us against the establishment/deep state/fake news" garbage that he plays on, but how the hell can 35%-40% of this country NOT see his actions and words as selfish, childish, and completely idiotic?!

    3. Re:What? Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "adversarial interests quite frequently"...that's understated to the extreme. They attacked the US elections in cooperation with team Trump. I mean its pretty blatant, when they agree to help one candidate, forment a plan (obtained by CIA and since leaked), meet with team Trump staff (denied at first , and now confirmed even by them), hack election databases across the US, and Democrat emails, all to rig the US election.

      How is it different from a beheading strike?

      If they went up to POTUS and pollonium poisonied any Trump opponents, would the result be any different?

      "why on earth would the US share sensitive technical information?"
      Because that was the plan they had. Build up 'terrorism' as a super enemy, get Russia access to 5 eyes data on justfication of terrorism, Putin rigs elections across 5 eyes using all this juicy domestic surveillance data.

      You think Trump got help once from them, and he won't want more help next time? Putin got what he wanted, so of course he's going to take more next time. Expect a lot more Putin subservient Congressmen and Senators in coming elections.

    4. Re: What? Why? by humptheElephant · · Score: 1

      I think he did promise some things for people who are having a hard time making it. He did get rid of TPP for example, which could have been pretty sketchy. However I think there is more under the rug to be exposed and he probably knows it. He starts his diversions with his idiotic tweets. I think he knows exactly what he is doing.

    5. Re:What? Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what is your solution? War? Do nothing?
      It seems to me "talking" and seeing if we can work something out is the only solution to this mess, unless you have a better idea.

    6. Re:What? Why? by fafalone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What does anything you said have to do with Trump or Trump's objectives? Trump doesn't care about historical conflicts, doesn't care about those other countries, wants to work with Russia specifically, doesn't care about their technological astuteness, and absolutely 100% does not care what people like experts and scientists think in cybersecurity or any other subject. He's flooded the swamp with sycophants, and the Republicans won't oppose anything he does no matter how horrible because it would compromise The Party, and it's Party First, their own interests second, and the best interests of America or the people exist only as a soundbite they talk about to advance #1 and 2.

    7. Re:What? Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It gives Trump a hacking agency outside of Congretional oversight and legal controls, and it gives Putin cover for hacking operations in the US and its allies.

      Government agencies swear to uphold the Constitution and laws. Trump wants them to swear loyalty to him above the Constitution and laws. That leads to a disconnect in government where they don't follow his commands because his commands are illegal.

      How to fix that? Well assign roles done by government to parties loyal to Trump not Congress and Constitution. In this case he is trying to assign US cybersecurity to Russia. When Congress assigned it to DHS.

    8. Re: What? Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was no Russian hacking. There was however extensive DNC vote rigging and sactuary city illegal voting. Now get back to work.

    9. Re:What? Why? by dslmodem · · Score: 2

      There is a country called China. That is my guess.

      --

      ^(oo)^pig~

    10. Re: What? Why? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2
      Maybe if we stopped antagonizing the shit out of Russia they would stop acting like this. Just a suggestion.

      Do you really think a second rate nation like Russia, with a huge indefensible border and ringed by hostile NATO bases, would be starting shit if they weren't backed into a corner? Discard your outdated Cold War propaganda and look at the situation with fresh eyes. America hasn't treated Russia kindly for the past quarter century.

      --
      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    11. Re: What? Why? by stabiesoft · · Score: 2

      TPP was dead before he was sworn in. Now I'd agree his campaign rhetoric may have helped it die, but it died before he could kill it. I'd also agree there is something financial that is going to be found. Maybe Russia has been propping up his real estate. I disagree he knows what he is doing. You do not tell the cop "Don't look in the trunk, there are no drugs there", just like you don't tell mueller, "Don't look into my finances".

    12. Re:What? Why? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What is Russia offering that Israel, Germany, and the UK aren't?

      The dirt and espionage on Americans. Which as has already been admitted and is proven in an email trail, is what this administration believes is something anyone would want to participate in.

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    13. Re: What? Why? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 0

      There was no Russian hacking. There was however extensive DNC vote rigging and sactuary city illegal voting. Now get back to work.

      Step up your game Ivan. Most people are numb to your deflection by now, so ya gotta amp it up to 11. Threaten to tell everyone about everyone's midget shemale scat porn addiction if they don't toe the line or you'll never collect those rubles.

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    14. Re: What? Why? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Good question. I think there is a much bigger base than people thought who are just opposed to it all. Where "it" means everything, but especially anything to do with politics. They have been flipping their finger at the world for a long time, and now that there's a leader of the flip-the-finger movement they vote for him. They're anti-elite but at the same time for this guy who's the biggest elitist of them all. But Trump manages to give the impression of not being elite, they see him as not smart with elitist education but smart with down home gut feelings. They see his real estate money as a result of being smart and nothing at all to do with being lucky. But maybe more than all that, Trump says what they want to hear - that country's problem is with everyone else except his backers, especially politicians and immigrants.

      When people push back against Trump it only reinforces the base. They see the elite being the ones pushing against Trump, or immigrant lovers, etc. The more that people rally against Trump the more it convinces his backers that Trump must be doing something right.

    15. Re: What? Why? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      He's been doing idiotic tweets for as long as Twitter existed. Trump is not a deep person, he doesn't have a subtle bone in his body, and he's certainly not following a secret long term strategy. Occam's Razor applies here and the the simplest solution is that he's exactly what he appears to be: shallow and ego driven. The inscrutable tweet at 3am is merely an impulse he has after listening to some conspiracy oriented radio show. The tweets are stream of consciousness ramblings. He has so many contradictions in what he says over time because he's making it all up on the fly, and not because he knows what he's doing.

    16. Re:What? Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is Russia offering that Israel, Germany, and the UK aren't?

      They are offering to wreck our shit.

    17. Re:What? Why? by nine-times · · Score: 1

      [Trump] wants to work with Russia specifically

      I have to say, at first when all this news about Russia started coming out, I thought that most likely, we'd find that Trump wasn't involved with the Russia hacking. Putin probably got him elected because he knew Trump was a moron, he wanted to sow chaos into the American political system, and putting Trump into the presidency was a convenient way of damaging the US.

      But as time has gone on, it's become evident that can't be the case. First, because of Trumps repeated attempts at obstructing the investigation. Second, all these meetings are really adding up, and we know that they were, at the very least, coordinating with the Russian government. They were aware that the Russian government was trying to get Trump elected, and his campaign welcomed the help. But it's also weird that the Russians had sanction put on them last year, and they've sat around patiently for months, only now getting upset that the sanctions haven't been lifted and their property hasn't been returned. It's weird that Trump has had these private meetings with Kislyak, Lavrov, and Putin. Trump has repeatedly hinted at wanting to remove the sanctions. And now, he basically wants to bring in Russian security personnel involved in our elections?

      I've actually come to believe that Trump himself was involved with colluding with the Russians. I think that, if we had his tax returns, we'd see that he's getting income and loans from Russia. I think Russian intelligence probably has the Russian prostitute pee tape. I think Putin just owns him. And honestly, I suspect that this "joint cyber security unit" is an attempt to put our elections under control of Russian intelligence, so that they can fix it in favor of Trump. He's going to drum of some bullshit claims of election fraud by Mexicans, claim we need help ensuring the security of our elections, and hand the keys over to Putin so that Putin can rig the election.

      Seriously. Honestly. I think that's the plan. Trump once said that he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose his supporters, and I think he's right. I think he's so correct in that assessment that he's demonstrating, in fact, that he could hand control of our country over to Russia, and he wouldn't lose his supporters.

    18. Re: What? Why? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Let's also not forget that he does indeed appear to be an idiot. This is not a man of deep thoughts, or much thought at all. He has virtually no impulse control (something his eldest son has inherited), and I've come to believe that it isn't that he doesn't want to understand the world, it's that he is incapable of it. What the US has done has elected Chauncey Gardner's mean-spirited brother.

      --
      The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
    19. Re: What? Why? by dbIII · · Score: 1

      and in his mind would put the legitimacy of his presidency in question.

      I don't think Trump has every seriously cared about the legitimacy of anything he has for most of his life. For example, it was enough for "Trump University" to have that title but none of the trappings of a real University.
      I think he just cares about having something, whether it was gained by fair means or foul doesn't seem to matter to him.

    20. Re: What? Why? by dbIII · · Score: 1

      It's sleeping.
      Many very large donors to both R and D like the idea a great deal.

    21. Re: What? Why? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Do you really think a second rate nation like Russia, with a huge indefensible border and ringed by hostile NATO bases, would be starting shit if they weren't backed into a corner?

      Yes. Foreign adventurism is an old Russian technique for distracting Russians from what their leaders are doing.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  3. Leverage Russian expertise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's well know that Russia excels in the area of cybersecurity. Why not bring them on board to help?

    1. Re:Leverage Russian expertise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are not our friend? Maybe that's a good place to start?

  4. A disturbance in the force by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just felt a disturbance in the force, as if a million triggers were triggered all at once.

  5. The only good red by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is a dead red.

    1. Re:The only good red by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russia isn't Communist anymore. It's a kleptocracy now.

  6. Trump ends CIA in Syria- Clintonists go mad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    In this topsy-turvy neo-liberal West we witness Clinton supporting warmongering zionist/wahhabi loving scum howl in outrage as Trump announces the end of the CIA program in Syria that trained, funded and armed the terrorists that destroyed a once stable, advanced SECULAR nation.

    Before Tony Blair, the public face of the 'left' in the West was anti-war, and anti-CIA. Today, the left demands that the most extreme, primitive Saudi funded version of islam, wahhabism, becomes the dominant face of islam across the planet. Muslim women in Britain never even used to wear headscarves, for instance. Post Blair's Iraq holocaust, the major mosques in America and Britian are built and funded by Saudi Arabia- and women in full body bags are common in all major western cities. And the official left loves this.

    Russia news reports of liberated Alleppo in Syria show men, women and children (almost all muslims) dressed just like western christains flooding back onto the streets. Those that agree with Clinton and Blair, and express outrage at Putin and Assad's victory there, are all women dressed in full black body bags. Since Assad runs a secular regime, the black bag women are left unmolested, even though they assisted the terror forces that occupied Alleppo previously.

    As far as the BBC, NYT and CNN are concerned, the ONLY public opinion that matters in Syria is that expressed by the black bag women, and their children. The opinion of brainwashed cultists is the reason the BBC says day after day that Syria must be bombed to utter ruin by the Americans and Britain.

    Now we have to watch as Clinton loving, humanity hating neo-liberal media scum broadcast story after story after story demonising Trump for ending the CIA terror program in Syria. The left have become what George Orwell told us they would in Animal Farm and 1984. Orwell, as a naive young man, hung with the neo-liberal scum of Europe, and was sickened by their actual agenda and plan for Humanity. So he wrote his famous works warning us.

    Blair has brought the 1984 police state into reality in Britain. Newspeak is the only form of language used on the BBC and other zionist neo-liberal outlets- and is repeated here (without irony) by posters who love Clinton and hate Trump (for the wrong reasons- there are plenty of real reasons for having issues with Trump).

    Slashdot continues its daily "demonise Russia" story picks. And the owners of slashdot will be crying tonite at the thought of all those inncoent humans whose lives will be saved by Trump's partial alliance with Russia in Syria.

    1. Re:Trump ends CIA in Syria- Clintonists go mad by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Excellent post - you've earned your rubles there, comrade.

      Boris has indeed served the motherland well, comrades. We shall see that he gets an extra ration of Vodka, and maybe a pair of shoes for his children.

      Don't forget what we know about you Boris, you wouldn't want that to get out.......

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  7. Trump power grab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dept Homeland Security has that brief, it was created by an 2002 ACT OF CONGRESS, and it's leaders are VETTED by Congress. Trump cannot create a cyber 'security' unit, bypassing Congretional oversight and putting his own cronies into there.

    Look at the data Russia hacked in the elections, electoral rolls, prior absentee voting records, and registered party affiliations of 39 states had ZERO USE to the Russians. It had every use to team Trump. It should be clear where this data went to and who requested it.

    Oh, and in case you missed it, Russia grabbed another couple of Kms of Georgia while Trump is doing his distraction. USA is defenseless to Russia with Trump in that seat. You can build the most amazing weapons in the world, but if the person in power is loyal to a foreign attacker, you have no weapons.

    Cyber weapons included. If he won't defend USA from a cyber attack, do you imagine he will from a missile attack? Or a land grab?

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-appears-taking-georgias-land-185005478.html

  8. Sharing security info. != a BAD idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Everyone gains e.g. pointing out known 'bad actors' (in a variety of scenarios) to avoid or shutdown.

    * IF the info. turns up 'unreliable' or not useful you figure it out pretty fast & just don't use it!

    (Information = power (to protect yourself with)).

    APK

    P.S.=> It's pretty much how the program I created others here like & use (which the highly esteemed folks from Malwarebytes even host + recommend) works - consolidating information from ~10 reputable reliable sites that produce hosts file data APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-7 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/ ... apk

    1. Re:Sharing security info. != a BAD idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK only wishes he was because then he might get some pussy

      For now he will have to stick to smoking some elephant pole

    2. Re:Sharing security info. != a BAD idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see you are projecting your personal problems onto apk. Stop now for your own good. Your replies are quite telling about YOU.

  9. Time to start brushing up on your Russian, America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The red of your republican party will go nicely with Russia's traditional colors.

    Also convenient that the Russian flag is red, white, and blue. Enjoy comrades!

  10. You WISH you were me... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    I like your host file system by Karmashock

    I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject & quoted registered /.ers above you UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous troll - want more? Ask & "ye SHALL receive" (I've dozens more like them)... apk

    1. Re:You WISH you were me... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Your ads concern me more than any advert that even the most skeezy site promotes and I'll elaborate why.

      Your ads are more dangerous. Why you may ask? Because you're worse than a regular advertising company! You keep a dossier on people, tracking all their posts, trying to find out their Internet history and keep records (I mean, just look at your replies throughout time), you've been known since the 90s on the Internet as someone who contacts people's ISPs if you have sufficient details, you contact their webhosting providers, people's companies where they work to make a scene because they dared to disagree with you on the Internet.

      You ironically are the antithesis of safety online, you harass, provoke, stalk and it often starts with one of your advertisements. You have people tell you to go away and leave them alone, but you continue to pursue them, make legal threats etc. until you are satisfied. You are one of he few advertisers out there that I can actually point at and show that you are using information gathered against other people! In summary, the most dangerous advertisements people need to be weary of is yours, APK. Your adblocking solution does nothing to stop them either.

  11. Re:Fuck Russia and fuck the US by jellomizer · · Score: 0

    Of course if that happens all the other countries will also be knocked down a peg or twenty.
    The thing with Globalization, is with the big nations, trying to hurt the nation will only hurt yourself.
    You are better off trying to get your country to be better itself then trying to bring the others down a peg.

    You do not need to run your country like Trump.

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  12. Trolling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's some next level international nation-state trolling right there...

  13. Filed Under "What Could Possibly Go Wrong?" by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    Moscow and Washington are in talks to create a joint cyber security working group...

    Does this need further analysis?

    I think not.

  14. MAHA! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    "The fox is building a beautiful hen house to protect American hens! Believe me, the fox knows protection better than the wealthiest lock-smith. And the cows will pay for it! Make hen-houses secure again!"

    --
    Table-ized A.I.
  15. Re:Fuck Russia and fuck the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dumbasses like you always say shit like that, having no concept whatsoever of what the worldwide and long-term effects would be. That's why you're working a shitty wage-slave job every day and are not a world leader.

  16. MightyMartian: George Soros employee, lol! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    See subject: Where's the "russian collusion" proof I asked you for? If you had any you'd be SCREAMING it (you don't have any & never will).

    * I had it on the PC to Server ratio + how much more Windows runs on PCs + Servers combined (far outnumbering Linux there)...

    (THIS is what KILLS "your kind" - lack of FACTS & truth).

    APK

    P.S.=> How much are you being paid by George Soros for your 'fake news' transmissions? Go back to Canada (you're trying to INTERFERE in MY nation, not yours)... apk

  17. Can I get a "HELL, NO!" from y'all? by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Hey, I've got a great idea! Let's have the fox guard the henhouse!

    LOLOLOL, no.
    The only possible way you could convince me this is even remotely a good idea, would be if it's under the 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer' philosophy. But even then I'd still say "HELL, NO!".

    1. Re:Can I get a "HELL, NO!" from y'all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, here's a bunch of ACs to spew vatnik propaganda and tell you why it's all a big lie against Putin/Trump!

      Notice how it's not just reddit anymore?

  18. Re:Fuck Russia and fuck the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Would you want some known nations off the board? China is imperialistic and would be happy to have the balance of power in the Pac Rim belong to them, just because old hatreds run deeply, and they would love to visit some retribution versus the California-sized island that terrorized them in the past century. Iran and Saudi Arabia wouldn't be fun either. Daesh is scurrying around in the shadows looking for a power vacuum and has the best propaganda artists in the world, preying on the despairing and desperate. North Korea isn't exactly friendly to those not of their race.

    History learned from the Shah, Saddam, and other places that when one baddie got knocked off, a far, far worse one took the stage.

    Of course, there is the fact that instability breeds people willing to double-down. Which means war. For example, when the revolutionaries in Iran killed the Shah's generals, Saddam decided to move in for the kill.

    No, the US and Russia are not perfect... but at least it is better than a permanent state of war, or revolution where the most brutal tinpot is always on top. The West survived through that type of existance for almost a millennium until the Black Plague took away all the slaves, forcing nobility to actually do more than just oppress and battle each other.

  19. Politics aside, this could be a good thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All politics aside, a joint US-Russia cyber security group might just be a very good thing. For example, if they are able to find threats and work with OS makers, similar to SELinux or macOS's sandboxing profiles, that would be a genuine win. Or, OS securing guides similar to what NIST puts out.

    Maybe, we can see something beyond that, such as embedded operating systems designed from the kernel on up to be secure, as a way to combat the intrinsic insecurity of the "security has no ROI" mentality.

    There is the legal aspect too. For example, reworking FERPA/HIPAA/SOX regs, so they actually provide protection and a more useful checklist, with the checklist updated every few years, similar to PCI-DSS.

    Of course, my cynical self (who was old enough to live through the Cold War) has doubts on this... but if done by some knowledgeable people, it just might be a boon to everyone involved.

  20. US cutting cyber relations in State department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Interesting timing, considering that the coordinator for cyber issues at the State department is leaving, and Tillerson is considering closing the cyber office or merging it with another department.

    Cede the international leadership to Russia. That's great.

  21. Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are plenty of practical reasons to work with your enemy on this stuff.

    1. Prevent ww3 by deciding on the rule of engagement (lets unleash uncontrolled ransomware worms that can take out hospitals and scada pls)
    2. solidify the things both sides want (massive intelligence gathering on their own citizens)
    3. Crushing 3rd parties, US gets to extradite russian hackers, russia puts more pressure on homegrown hackers to join FSB or get arrested.
    4. Appearing strong and "fixing the cyber" for the public on both sides of the table.

    1. Re:Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are plenty of practical reasons to work with your enemy on this stuff.

      1. Prevent ww3 by deciding on the rule of engagement (lets unleash uncontrolled ransomware worms that can take out hospitals and scada pls)

      That's the thing though .. cyber-warfare is basically a software version of "fire all the nukes randomly into the sky and hope they hit our enemies, not out own people" Please try telling a PC virus to avoid hospitals, and see how effective that is.

      3. Crushing 3rd parties, US gets to extradite russian hackers, russia puts more pressure on homegrown hackers to join FSB or get arrested.

      I think you'd be amazed that the Russians would be completely unable to identify a single russian hacker.

    2. Re:Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5. or 0. Funnily we've had a similar contradiction going on for years or decades. Use algorithms or protocol developed by the NSA, DARPA or whatever to protect ourselves from the evil Empire.

  22. America the Cuckold nation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All I can say is WOW the US is a tiny handed shadow of its former self. Putin has successfully cuckolded the most powerful nation in history. You guys will probably end up going to war against us (since we are the last bastion of traditional and rational western civilization left) and will probably destroy us, but in the meantime it's darkly amusing to see how your completely and utterly your own sovereign interests have been rendered impotent by a true master manipulator. It's too bad Putin didn't put his genius towards building up western civilization instead of tearing it down.

    1. Re: America the Cuckold nation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Putin is a strange figure. He could easily lead from the shadows, yet he stays in office. He has a strong understanding of international political relationships and yet isolates his country. He has successfully utilized the internet and computer infrastructure to great effect but still feels threatened by photoshoped clowns.

    2. Re: America the Cuckold nation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's a narcissist like trump. They are, by any measure, the most powerful people on earth but they act like vain 3 year olds trying and failing to blow out their birthday cake.

  23. You start up w/ me as you are now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & I've obviously swatted you under your SOCKPUPPET ALTERNATE ACCOUNTS on /.& yes, we all KNOW it goes on (hell, I have proofs of that too))?

    Of COURSE I record it! Mainly so I can toss it back in your face, lol! It's that simple.

    So, please - Don't even TRY "dish it out" WHEN YOU CAN'T TAKE IT IN RETURN you UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous troll!
    WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO FOOL? YOURSELF?? YES!

    THIS IS WHY YOU TROLL ME BY UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS POSTS - I've crushed you beneath your "registered 'luser'" accounts galore is why!

    When hosts work to help others I post about them - no law against that & it's NOT "ads" dumbass.

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly: You've done better & more for security (+ added speed, reliability & anonymity) that /.ers like & use? Prove it! I can https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10889141&cid=54846601/

    1. Re:You start up w/ me as you are now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We can tell when you're FEELING the pressure, because you resort to even more bolding and CAPS than normal. It's almost as transparent as the "mind" of the orange one displayed via twitter. If I had to call it, I'd say FakePres was slightly smarter than you, but only cos your mental illness is affecting your cognitive abilities.

  24. APK is telling us to not use his software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    See APK is now telling us to not use his software:

    * IF the info. turns up 'unreliable' or not useful you figure it out pretty fast & just don't use it!

    Now was that so difficult to admit APK. Now if you can only continue on the program as admitting you have a problem is just the first step.

    1. Re:APK is telling us to not use his software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take your own advice and admit you can't read: Registered slashdot users say differently quoted here https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10889141&cid=54846601/ so you admitting you can't read is a start for you per your own advice. So get out your remedial reading lessons unidentifiable anonymous troll. You need them.

    2. Re:APK is telling us to not use his software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But according to you, APK, those are all fake luser shill sockpuppet Soros funded ne'er-do-well accounts so they don't matter, APK (we know it is you, just sign it or get a real user account). You sure suffers from some serious cognitive dissonance given how you complain about Anonymous Coward posts and real user accounts when they go against your poor advice but then love them when they say something positive that can be taken out of context or has since been disavowed. Yet you still does do a lot of unsigned posting to support yourself because no one seems to like supporting your madness now. Must be because everyone wishes your would just go away and never come back. The wise only respond to your posts as Anonymous Coward because they know you will stalk them otherwise, maybe if you had a real account and posted with it we might do the same.

  25. Re:What will APK do next? You Decide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You didn't answer the question MightyMartian. How much does George Soros pay you for your fakenews you spew on slashdot?

  26. Type faster retard APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Type faster retard you haven't responded to every anti-trump post and shown the world how foolish you are yet.
    Or is it now time to blame the Jews?
    I await your fevered response.

    1. Re:Type faster retard APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at your reaction! Priceless projection on your part as always. Apk nailed you to a tee here hahahaha https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10889141&cid=54847439/

  27. wtf is an impenetrable Cyber Security unit?? by Spinlock_1977 · · Score: 1

    First up, nothing is impenetrable. Especially something with computers and people.

    But if they could be impenetrable, that would be nice. But shouldn't their job be to make other units impenetrable?

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    - The Kessel run is for nerf herders. I can circumnavigate the entire Central Finite Curve in a lot less than 12 parse
    1. Re:wtf is an impenetrable Cyber Security unit?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously their "impenetrable cyber-alliance" refers to an encrypted video channel between Trump and Putin's bedroom computers. And the word "impenetrable" is used mainly to contrast it with what happens at their meetings in person.

    2. Re:wtf is an impenetrable Cyber Security unit?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Money goes in and doesn't come out

  28. AKA backdoor/channel to Russia by evolutionary · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apparently this group is to work outside the CIA with fewer people to answer (if anyone besides Trump). Trump's son was already talking about a backdoor channel. Now it seems Trump wants to roll out the red carpet. Makes Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy look like lightweight in comparison.

    --
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
  29. Well folks it looks like the winner is E by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Well folks it looks like APK has chosen option E:

    Replying as other ACs to support himself

    However today there is are special bonus rounds so you can continue the fun below. Better hurry as he appears to be stalking this thread so he can be sure to get the last word in as always. Also we are currently taking over/under bets on how many posts he will make before he runs out of devices to post from and if he can for once actually guess who made any AC post although the odds are currently 10000:1 of him getting even one right but the superfecta is an astounding 2x10^19:1.

    1. Re:Well folks it looks like the winner is E by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're projecting your own issues and modus operandi again. Create a registered account and name it TheProjectionist. It's you.

    2. Re:Well folks it looks like the winner is E by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats another E I think

    3. Re:Well folks it looks like the winner is E by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MightyMartian you didn't answer how much Soros pays you for your fake news you spout! Enjoy your downmod https://politics.slashdot.org/...

  30. Fake News by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 0

    Just ignore the toddler playing with trucks in the front yard, there is no such task force.

    guy can't even staff 4/5ths of his positions, he's that clueless

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    -- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
    1. Re: Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He looked very happy climbing and playing on those trucks. I admit, if given the chance to run free amongst that equipment, I would let be smiling from ear to ear.

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  32. Oh what a great idea /s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Something something foxes something something hen houses...

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  34. APK prove you've stopped sucking moose dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK can you prove you've stopped sucking moose dick?

    That is right you can't because one is halfway down your throat now.

    Suck more dick!

    Suck more dick!

    Suck more dick!

  35. Project much? lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & look - I'm NOT interested in what "your kind" has to offer - ok? I'm too busy looking @ "flowers that grow SO incredibly high" https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10889141&cid=54846601/ & yes it's OBVIOUS you wish you were me - your problem? Being a LAZY "ne'er-do-well" who SOMEONE convinced that you can't manage what I have on a lark for fun there... that's YOUR FAULT for being a WEAK beta!

    * RoTfLmAo... it's true & you KNOW it!

    You relegated YOURSELF to the life of an UNIDENTIFIABLE butthurt PUNY anonymous troll, lol - you did THAT, to yourself!

    APK

    P.S.=> For "musical accompaniment"? The GREAT Elton John's rendition (superior to the original even by his pals) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SZ6J6fjw9w/ per the line I quoted from it (regarding my work that does INCREDIBLY well, surprised me in fact)... apk

  36. The only nailing with APK is from moose dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only nailing with APK is from moose dick that he is sucking and taking in his gaping raw ass.

  37. "Up here in space..." apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Yes I am "looking DOWN @ U" unidentifiable anonymous beta worm (RoTfLmAo) w/ musical theme to go along https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1B_pZC8aWU/ since from YOUR "pov"? You're already "6 ft. under" trolling unidentifiably anonymously, nothng to show for your WASTED life (yes, it's THAT obvious).

    * :)

    ("I'm protected, elected detective...I'm perpetual I keep the country clean! Always in FOCUS, can't kill my stare. I zoom into you, but YOU DON'T KNOW I'm there...")

    APK

    P.S.=> "I'm MADE OF METAL & my circuits GLEAM" -> https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10889141&cid=54846601/ & your non-existent ones don't... apk

  38. You do what you complain of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You stalk apk by unidentifiable anonymous posts and don't id yourself. Apk does. He has balls. You don't.You don't deceive us with your illogic logic. You have to hide now or create more alternate fake registered accounts and apk tracks those and crushes you easily and you know it. Got too painful for you maintaining them eh? Hahahaha, yes. Is your favorite color transparent? Must be. I see right through you. So does everyone else.

  39. Russia has taken control of the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only makes sense they'd wish to secure their gains.

  40. Pretty sure Israel is buddy buddy with China... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if not Russia as well.

    I don't have a citation handy but it was discussed in the course of reading up on Israeli activity since the middle of the 20th century. They have been politically and financially tying themselves to every major power out there, and freely trading/recieving trade from each side. As a result my assumption is they have been brokering cutting edge tech from each side to each other side while somehow claiming to each they're a loyal buddy and greasing the right palms to make it politically favorable to continue supplying them, even when it's obvious they are playing both sides and eroding technological advantages by reselling to your enemies.

  41. Foxes & Hens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, it's asking the fox to guard the henhouse.

    Also, Russia is pretty dirty too!

  42. whom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Learn when to use whom. Being stridently wrong while misusing English makes it all worse.

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  44. I knew you couldn't, you love moose dick too much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I knew you couldn't because you can't stop with the moose dick.

    All you do is try to change the subject and deflect.

    I said prove you have stopped sucking moose dick but then you make a pile of letters and punctuation and deem it an argument while everyone laughs at you.

    I know I shouldn't make fun of the handicapped but for APK I make an exception.

  45. No - I think we know who loves what here lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You're the one projecting what YOU yourself like, NO questions asked (lmao).

    APK

    P.S.=> Grow up... apk

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  47. Hahahaha, enjoy being downmodded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject &

    A.) I id myself - unidentifiable trolls (you) don't
    B.) I use film/music as analogies (pisses you off)
    C.) I quote registered users words for proof - you don't
    D.) I get featured in books/mags/newspapers (you don't)
    E.) You bitch about "ac" support & troll by AC unidentifiably
    F.) What I post shuts you up - it's facts, not drivel
    G.) I still have "glory days" (you don't) https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10889141&cid=54846601/
    H.) I don't hate TRUE torah jews (khazar/pharisee/zionists I don't like for what they write on non-jews in the TALMUD)
    I.) Hypocrite you call me all kinds of names I laugh at!
    J.) You threaten me 1st.
    K.) If anyone is mindless, it's you
    L.) Nothing I link to is nonsense as you never prove it wrong!
    M.) If anyone is retarded, it's you
    N.) YOU GOT DOWNMODDED HERE!
    O.) I post on hosts where they apply & help (no law against it)
    P.) Fake names online ARE that & "ne'er-do-wells" I challenge to do better & more than I have is nothing but FAIR & shuts "your kind" up TOTALLY every time as you ARE do-nothings!
    Q.) I win because YOU ALWAYS LOSE!

    APK

  48. APK is illiterate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can read and understand which is something you seem to fail at daily. It's not my fault you suffer from severe comprehension failures. I also seem to be able to write a coherent response unlike you.

  49. Three Letters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ess Pee Aitch. You're welcome

  50. Nobody want to be APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody wants to be you APK. You are a sad individual who has accomplished nothing of value. You lack the mental fortitude to create anything of any real complexity or originality. You mindlessly argue on the internet tying in futility to win arguments that you lose quickly but will proclaim you won because you got the last word in as most people have moved on from the discussion. You seem to live in a world of fantasy or are suffering from dementia as your ramblings resemble Grandpa Simpson's more every day. You also seem to suffer from a rather large amount of paranoia given how you react to everything.

  51. APK tells the truth twice in a thread by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't deceive us with your illogic logic.

    See APK again tells us the truth.
    His logic and arguments fail and he admits others argue better than he does.
    It must be hard for him to admit the truth twice in a single thread.
    He still does seem to have issues with basic grammar but one thing at a time.

  52. /.ers disagree (want more of them?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    I like your host file system by Karmashock

    I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject & EAT YOUR WORDS you UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous "ne'er-do-well" (facts vs. YOUR fiction) - want more quotes like those? Ask & "ye SHALL receive"... apk

  53. All the truth & logic I need is this... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    I like your host file system by Karmashock

    I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> Let's see YOU do better UNIDENTIFIABLE no-balls do-nothing "ne'er-d-well" - want more? Ask & "ye shall receive" (by the dozens)... apk

  54. It's no pressure putting this squeeze on you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    I like your host file system by Karmashock

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> Let's see YOU produce results like those (want more? I've got 'em by the dozens) - it'll NEVER HAPPEN from "your kind" (UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous do-nothing "ne'er-do-wells")... apk

  55. Let's see you do better than this... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    I like your host file system by Karmashock

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject & quoted /.ers above - let's see YOUR NON-EXISTENT WORK (you don't have the skills for it) do better (& I've dozens more like those above too - lol, "your kind" can't even manage ONE)... apk

  56. All the welcome or help I need is... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    I like your host file system by Karmashock

    I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> So let's see an UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous "ne'er-do-well" like YOU prove you've done better (lol, it's NEVER ever going to happen)... apk

    1. Re:All the welcome or help I need is... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      S. P. H.
      You know you need it.

  57. Re:Fuck Russia and fuck the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The thing with globalization is, if you want to run your country in an unapproved manner then the cruise missiles will come to disable or destroy fixed air defenses and then you will be raepd, and/or you will face a billion dollar "revolution" and have the "international community" somewhat at war with you claiming you're Hitler because you're trying to defend yourself.

  58. Take your own advice troll worm... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You PROJECT you need it! I show I do things folks like. You don't. You need help wannabe ZontarTheMindless, lol (yes I know it's you, loonybird druggie mentalcase that you are by YOUR OWN ADMISSION).

    APK

    P.S.=> You PUNY unidentifiable anonymous do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" troll worm... apk

    1. Re:Take your own advice troll worm... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't read your post, but my eye sees you didn't do any bolding this time. Have you been under medical care recently? That would be great progress.

  59. 24 hours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I win.