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US Is Slipping Toward Measles Being Endemic Once Again, Says Study (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: With firm vaccination campaigns, the US eliminated measles in 2000. The highly infectious virus was no longer constantly present in the country -- no longer endemic. Since then, measles has only popped up when travelers carried it in, spurring mostly small outbreaks -- ranging from a few dozen to a few hundred cases each year -- that then fizzle out. But all that may be about to change. With the rise of non-medical vaccine exemptions and delays, the country is backsliding toward endemic measles, Stanford and Baylor College of Medicine researchers warn this week. With extensive disease modeling, the researchers make clear just how close we are to seeing explosive, perhaps unshakeable, outbreaks. According to results the researchers published in JAMA Pediatrics, a mere five-percent slip in measles-mumps-and-rubella (MMR) vaccination rates among kids aged two to 11 would triple measles cases in this age group and cost $2.1 million in public healthcare costs. And that's just a small slice of the disease transmission outlook. Kids two to 11 years old only make up about 30 percent of the measles cases in current outbreaks. The number of cases would be much larger if the researchers had sufficient data to model the social mixing and immunization status of adults, teens, and infants under two.
Autism rates have been on the decline, and this decline started when vaccination rates began their decline.
Explain that, poison advocates.
i respectfully decline (put whatever you want in this space)
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after a few m(b)illion decline notices get transmitted to it's portals, it must respond? which doesn't mean most of us won't get permanently unchosen anyway... we take each other out on command? we must like it because we keep paying for it? apathy pathos ensues... no heart no spirit no life.... same deceptive crap happens over & over to us ordinarians... why? greed, fear & ego in any 'order'...
Medically - politically - I have to look at the calendar everyday because it feels like I'm in a time warp and it's really 1917.
We, the USA, are getting dumber.
Well, autistic nerds like you have measle dicks and so they don't get laid
Pay phone.
I think the issue is that most people alive today of childbearing age have no experience with how awful the diseases that plagued our ancestors were which leaves them with wiggle room to accept doubt from dumbass celebrities.
With all these fools and Trumpian healthcare I predict a swift reduction among the American population.
[Citation Needed]
It falls on you to back up your claim, first.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
So what?
Stupid people clip themselves from the gene pool, sounds like a great idea.
Smart people will not be threatened by this, they may have to re-up their shots, but so what???
You cannot fix stupid, don't waste money trying....you can lead a horse to water you cannot make it drink....let them go.
While its extremely non-PC to suggest this, but illegal immigration has a role here. The study was done in Texas (a border state). While parents should vaccinate their children, herd immunity should prevent any large-scale outbreaks unless there is an injection of sick people who are acting as carriers.
Its easy to explain, you are as dumb as a fucking bowling ball, or a liar.
Autism rates have been on the decline, and this decline started when vaccination rates began their decline.
It has? Can you please give a citation or two? From what I understand autism rates have been steadily increasing for a while now. Though I've read a few sources that state it may be about to plateau.
Granted, part of the increase has to be from prior misdiagnosis and things like Asperger now considered autism. Black and Hispanics are also seeing increases. But some of that can be attributed to a lack of medical care in the past too. Regardless, it's still on the rise
It's my understanding that there are some special cases where vaccines may be harmful to a very small percentage of children, but it's nothing compared to how harmful hepatitis, tetanus, polio, etc can be if you contract those and are not one of those cases.
Evolution. All the idiots who won't get their kids vaccinated will see their genetic line die off. Those with vaccinations will be OK.
Eventually we'll only have sensible people left, the kind that vaccinate their kids.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
While true, your viewpoint does not fit this site's groupthink and will be modded accordingly.
and under the GOP plan it will get on to the PRE EX pool plan. If there is an opening / you have the funds for it and it's does not run out of fed / sate funds. But there is plan B ER (they will not fully cover you and will sue to get paid) plan C is jail / prison fully covered and in TX max cost $100/year.
Thanks to the policies of the Trumptonians the US is well on its way to becoming Great Again. The vaccine fear campaign is well established now and is seeing definite effects in the general population. Soon a devastated fearful populace will be full under control of the administration.
The political left doesn't like to admit it, but the real problem here are the unvaccinated third-worlders sneaking into the United States and other civilized nations illegally.
Here is a good description of the horrible problem that is occurring:
So we have people coming from the worst parts of Africa, like Somalia, Ethiopia and Eritrea, and who very well may have never received any sort of proper vaccination at any point during their lives.
They travel in large groups in unsanitary conditions (which is a great way to spread disease!) throughout 15+ countries. Many of these countries they pass through are also rather awful third-world, or at best second-world, nations, where vaccinations are non-existent or minimal, and disease runs rampant. So not only are these illegal aliens spreading whatever diseases they have along the way, they're picking up new/additional diseases as they travel.
Then they end up in nations like the United States, Canada, Australia or those of Europe, where they enter illegally and bypass any medical screening that might have detected their diseases. They end up supporting themselves through crime and other black market or under-the-table means, typically ignoring any sort of regulations, screening, or medical care meant to prevent the transmission of diseases. Then leftists in these civilized countries wonder why disease is on the rise!
Like it or not, President Trump is right: border security is extraordinarily important. It isn't just about the economy. It's about making sure that unvaccinated, disease-carrying third-world illegal aliens do not enter the USA and other civilized nations. Sadly, leftist politicians willingly or unwillingly ignore this reality, and now we have new outbreaks of diseases that were eliminated in civilized countries decades ago.
Nice try at stirring up some hate there but it's not the Mexicans who are the slackers.
http://theweek.com/articles/53...
So what was the point?
you are a fucking idiot.
1) Not a decline, more like a plateau. It's also very recent, and doesn't correspond with the rise of the anti-vax campaigns, which happened years earlier.
2) Autism rates did not increase when vaccinations were introduced; again, the rise in autism only happened later--in this case, decades later.
3) Correlation is not causation.
Not that you will read any of this. You've reached your conclusion, and evidence that doesn't fit it will be ignored.
The MMR vaccine has not been updated to keep up with the evolution of the measles virus.
The claims for non-vaccinated is often merely, no proof of vaccination. However, most public schools require it. A few states allow for a religious exemption, which must be filed and recorded with the school.
The fact parents do not have records of vaccinations does not mean these children were not vaccinated. Most of the time they have been if they're of school age.
Stop coddling these people who are willing to put their children and the rest of society at risk for the sake of their pseudoscientific BS. It's been very well studied, and the time has ended for putting up with this stuff. I'm not saying force needles into their or their children's arms against their permission, because it's still their own body and their choice to make, but make the consequences of their (stupid and selfish) choices real. There are people who can not be safely vaccinated for medical reasons, and herd immunity is their only option. Protect them and the rest of the public.
Example: without legitimate medical reasons: 1) don't allow unvaccinated children in public school; 2) don't allow unvaccinated travel to countries where contageous diseases are endemic without putting people in relevant quarantine periods upon their return, at their expense. If people wont accept modern medical preventative measures then they should be subject to 19th-century-style ones until they are proven not to be carriers; and 3) up-to-date vaccination should be a qualification of employment at any health care facility, and probably for admission into any health care training program. No exceptions.
Mandate which vaccinations children are required to have to avail of private / public daycare and schools. And make the parents criminally liable if the child or someone he/she comes into contact with contracts a preventable disease because of their negligence.
Quick, everybody run out and get your vaccine!
You'd think illegal immigrants would be more of an issue.
It's time for the EU to start issuing advisories against traveling to the US, and maybe even requiring americans to undergo medical screening before being allowed in.
Autism rates have been on the decline, and this decline started when vaccination rates began their decline.
Explain that, poison advocates.
Has to be a troll, too lucid. Most anti-vaxxers wouldn't be able to write two sentences without quite a few embarrassing mistakes.
On the off chance you are really an anti-vax dickhead, give my commiserations to your children. Their mother/father is a stupid prick.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
Hey science heads...
How much do you think a virus evolves in nearly half a century?
"In the United States, the vaccine was licensed in 1971"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
We're blaming anti-vaxxers, and we tout the tiny handful of kids who have immune deficiencies. But a much more likely truth for many of these resurgences is that the vaccines have not been updated in several decades. Why? Because the big pharmaceutical companies neither want to spend money in new development nor do they want to get rid of millions of doses of the old vaccines.
Instead of giving second-worlders and third-worlders free vaccines, it would be better to give them free birth control medication and devices.
The first-world is already voluntarily doing its part, as birth rates are now at or below replacement levels in nearly all civilized nations.
But it's in second-world countries like India and those of South America, and especially the third-world countries of Africa, where birth rates are out of control.
Giving free vaccinations may help avoid disease outbreaks, but it does nothing to combat the numerous other problems of overpopulation, such as a lack of fresh water, a lack of food, a lack of proper housing, a lack of proper sanitation facilities, and the numerous problems that occur when third-worlders try to illegally enter civilized nations.
Free birth control helps prevent the overpopulation problem in the first place. Depending on the type of birth control, it can also help avoid some disease transmission.
Free vaccines stop one problem, but enable many other problems. Free birth control, on the other hand, prevents numerous problems.
[Citation Needed]
It falls on you to back up your claim, first.
Uh, that post is almost certainly trolling, in the original internet sense of the word: somebody who is posting for no other reason than to get a reaction. Responding to him in any way does nothing other than feed the troll; the correct reaction was to ignore him and wait for him to be moderated "troll".
It's too late for that now, though. To deal with facts: the actual response is that autism rates are not declining: http://blogs.discovermagazine....
Here's a good correlation graph, if you're looking for correlation: https://www.sciencebasedmedici...
This site is like 90% autists like you and 10% cool and good people with gigantic dicks, like me
If they are not getting the measles vaccine, they are probably not getting the polio vaccine. The better we can identify anti-vax areas, the better we can target locations for the polio virus. There is a lot of money to be made in care for polio patients.
Just make sure *your* children have their vaccinations. The kids of all the dumbasses will be weeded out due to genetic stupidity. It is as it always was... thank you Mr. Darwin.
If only it were that simple. Problem is that the asshats who don't vaccinate by choice cause illness in those who cannot get vaccinated for valid medical reasons. If it was simply people competing for darwin awards along with their spawn I could almost not give a damn. But unfortunately I do actually care about the kids of these dumbass parents. You don't get to pick your parents and just because they are idiots doesn't mean the kid necessarily is.
Personally I think anyone who doesn't vaccinate without a valid medical excuse should have to live in quarantine.
Easy, dead kids never get autism.
Ezekiel 23:20
For opening the immigration floodgates that results in a higher percentage of unvaccinated people.
For stupid progressive celebrities that advise against vaccinations.
And finally for the radical environmentalists that want us to die anyways to save mother gaia.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
So, the whole planet Earth was populated by stupid fucks back then, eh? All those common people and dignitaries who hailed Jenner as the Savior - everyone basically - they were all crazy! Or maybe, just maybe those people lived daily with diseases and dead toll that we can hardly imagine today...oh, why don't we have a time-machine to send you, AC, back in time to tell them all how EVIL vaccination really is....I wonder what Napoleon would do to you....
Funny how you cite a plan when there is not one that has passed. Nice try.
I guess the twenty million or so illegals and legal immigrants who are not vaccinated doesn't count. Another bullshit story posted on Slashdot.
for the catastrophes at columbine, et al?
Illegal aliens are not immigrants.
Real immigrants are vetted through the immigration process, have immigrant visas, who eventually get a green card.
Real immigrants are like guests you invite to stay in your house.
Illegal aliens are squatters that break into your house and live in it without your permission, using your utilities and eating your food, again without permission.
Stop giving free medical care to people who didn't get vaccinated. Quarantine them and their family while they're contagious and make them pay for the costs of monitoring them. Don't allow immigrants to receive work permits, green cards, visas, or any other permission to be in the country until they've been vaccinated.
well not passing can end up with a defended ACA that give people 0 planes to pick from.
Yes, they have indeed. I have witnessed this in education in a hreat many cities in a gariety of states over a period of years. I don't care what a report says, it's getting worse, not better. Ask any non-private school teacher. I don't think it had anything to do with vaccination to begin with, personally.
i dont know who you're talking to, but *without citations* both of you will be ignored. plus, while i'll think of the op as ill-informed, i'll think of you as grandstanding. go fix that guys!
Medically - politically - I have to look at the calendar everyday because it feels like I'm in a time warp and it's really 1917.
We, the USA, are getting dumber.
One thing you have to realize is that political issues are never black-and-white, but there are shades of grey. Issues have both positive *and* negative aspects, and it is up to us to assign an inherent value to the plusses and minuses in each case.
Vaccination in the US is all tangled up with immigration and foreign culture.
Measles is brought in by travellers from foreign countries and spurred mostly by immigration - going to visit relatives back in the home country, or having relatives come to visit. Neither of which is a problem, but it adds a small negative value to unrestricted immigration.
A couple of years ago I read about some Islamic groups in Pakistan who intentionally avoided the (freely offered) polio vaccine, and also avoided having polio-laden children *treated*, thinking that if they could somehow get the children into the US they could attack us that way(*).
A few years earlier I read about a California school system with 7,000 students and only enough money for 5,000 vaccinations, but of those 7,000 students 1,500 were illegals. The controversy was about "who gets the vaccinations", and whether we should put tax-paying citizens at a disadvantage by vaccinating foreign nationals for free.
You could definitely say that people are stupid for not getting vaccinated, but you could also say that curbing immigration would help, immigration adds a burden of cost to our society, and that sometimes other cultures and practices will get in the way.
The stupid answer is to have unlimited immigration and also insufficient funds for vaccination. If we have unlimited immigration, we should absolutely be willing to bear the increased medical costs simply for the protection of our own people.
Whether unlimited immigration is worth the increased costs is now a political issue that you can judge for yourself, and perhaps we should poll the population for consensus. Take all the positives and their inherent value, and compare to the negatives and *those* values.
Vaccination is the correct choice, but it's become partly a political issue.
(*) And it didn't help that the CIA used foreign vaxxing programs as a way to locate and register persons of interest.
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Evolution. All the idiots who won't get their kids vaccinated will see their genetic line die off. Those with vaccinations will be OK.
Might work if these diseases were always fatal. Problem is that they aren't. They are only sometimes fatal. Sometimes carriers aren't even symptomatic. And they also can infect people who cannot get vaccinated for valid medical reasons.
I wouldn't have a philosophical problem with parents of children who choose not to vaccinate without a valid medical reason to have to live in quarantine. Separate them from the rest of the herd. Basically they are deciding to join a voluntary leper colony. This would keep them and their DNA from infecting the rest of us.
My son has an auto-immune disorder. Vaccines don't work on him. If he ever contracts this terrible disease, I fully intend to identify and sue a large swath of parents who elect not to vaccinate their child. Others should do the same. If common sense and compassion for fellow humans isn't enough for them, maybe taking their money will.
This is fallout from overly aggressive vaccination efforts. When we mandate vaccination for things that don't have a high death rate and aren't contagious through air and touch, we lose the moral authority to resist the bajillion claims for exemption.
Measles is deadly and highly contagious. The measles vaccine should be mandatory barring medical exemption. But because we also screw around with trying to make STD vaccines (like HPV) mandatory we open the door to refusal of all vaccines on the flimsiest of excuses.
Moderating "-1, Disagree" is simple censorship. Have the guts to post your opinion.
Miss. is the ONLY state that requires vaccination for ALL kids attending school, EXCEPT for true medical exceptions.
So, one of the most backwards states, is actually the most forward thinking when it comes to that.
Sad that ANY of the states allows otherwise,
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
When IT is doing a proper job, the users rarely experience any problems. And consequently them assume IT is not needed.
Spoken like a true spineless coward
I can't wait until I can force a vaccine on you, fuckface
Uh, that post is almost certainly trolling...
Well, yeah. And I called him out on it.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Bookmarked! :D
Our nation values freedom of religion very highly. That would have to change before bona fide religious exemptions will be disallowed. The key words being "bona fide" - claiming a religious exemption on Monday then going to a church on Sunday that doesn't have any credible "vaccinations are verboten" rule is not a "bona fide claim".
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
It is right for public schools to make kids who are not known to be vaccinated to stay home when measles is present in the area and that presence creates a public health threat (one case may not do it, 30 in a county might).
It's also the same school's responsibility to provide for either a tutor or remote-education (telephone, internet, etc.) for the duration of the local outbreak. It is NOT the school's responsibility to arrange child care during the outbreak - that's the parent's job.
The same goes for other diseases with vaccinations that are widely known to be generally effective and generally cost-effective that they are required by law.
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As for places where there are large gatherings that include children, such as movie theaters, theme parks, swimming pools, etc., the local public health authority is probably best equipped to issue guidance or, in extreme cases, orders, to parents of non-vaccinated children that will help - or order - them to not expose their kids or the general public to unnecessary risks. Realistically though, how many places in the country have a local measles-or-other-widely-vaccinated-for-disease outbreak that last more than a few months, and how many have more than 2 or 3 such outbreaks in a 10 year period? Not many.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Autism rates have been on the decline, and this decline started when vaccination rates began their decline.
Explain that, poison advocates.
Correlation does not imply causation.
The supposed "link" from vaccinations to autism is easily studied so it's actually been thoroughly studied multiple times by looking at medical records. No obvious link exists in the available data. I'd call this whole idea that there is a link a lie..
There is just about as much "proof" of the link between vaccines and autism as there is to unleaded gasoline to autism, if you follow the logic used in the first argument.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
This is his legacy. No more, no less.
Corporatism != Free Market
It has been known since the 1990's that vaccines cause autism and other neurological problems.
All you need for good health and natural immunity is
- an organic diet. Paleo and as organic as possible, Stay away from GMO's at all cost.
- limits to radiation exposure. Keep your cell phone far away when not in use and don't microwave food. It mangles the molecules and makes toxins.
- Regular chiropractic adjustments. They keep your nervous system's signals free flowing. A vertebral subluxation in your spine is like a kink in a garden hose. Some water goes through, not all.
- Avoid all Big Pharma MD's. All they want is your money. They want customers not cures.
- Exercise. Especially in areas away from high voltage power lines and non-organic farmland.
You'll live to be at least 90 if you follow these simple steps.
Chiropractic Saves Lives!
Because there's only hindus, confucians and muslims.
Hey, if you can be an ignorant asshat and pretend there are words there not said, so can I.
should be arrested.
The tipoff was the estimate of a whopping $2.1 meeeeeleeon increase in public health costs. FTFS:
We found that a 5% decline in MMR vaccine coverage in US children would result in a 3-fold increase in national measles cases in this age group, for a total of 150 cases
Elsewhere the study says that age group comprises about 30% of total measles cases. So in theory we'd see about 300 more cases per year.
Sorry, but that's not deserving of words like "explosive" or "unshakeable."
And even that would require a drop in coverage TFA dismissively couches as a "mere" 5%, but which would in reality be an enormous move for a statistic that is now only about 1% off its one-time peak and is running right around its mean over the last couple of decades.
Before you go there, my children are vaccinated. But this sort of sensationalism is not helpful.
Currently there is no string attached to the $1000 per child tax credit. Let's require people to provide the health insurance policy number that covers the child (and it might only cover the child, not the parent) AND mandate that the child's shot record be up to date.
If anyone wants to skip the vaccination of their child or use the tax credit to buy a bigger SUV, too bad but they aren't holding up their end of a societal obligation so put their own money where there mouth is, not mine.
Claims of a plateau are supported by a 2016 report from the CDC.
Rolling around on the floor and putting random crap in their mouths pretty much covers it. I guess the gov went through their demographics and didn't have enough invasive info on toddlers. Get them while they're young. Idiot parents getting newborns a Facefarm account, finger prints, and DNA screening not enough?
Can't wait to see the facial expression on my organic nut sister-in-law when I show her that. Also, to my brother, who thinks a vaccination is the reason his teenage son acts like a typical teenager.
What was the p-value? Note the other /. story on this... https://science.slashdot.org/s...
Just another day in Paradise
Drawing more attention to the troll. Your post is currently at Score 2. Many of us would have never seen his (as it should be) because we browse above that level
Just another day in Paradise
[Citation Needed]
It falls on you to back up your claim, first.
Uh, that post is almost certainly trolling, in the original internet sense of the word: somebody who is posting for no other reason than to get a reaction. Responding to him in any way does nothing other than feed the troll; the correct reaction was to ignore him and wait for him to be moderated "troll".
It's too late for that now, though. To deal with facts: the actual response is that autism rates are not declining: http://blogs.discovermagazine....
Here's a good correlation graph, if you're looking for correlation: https://www.sciencebasedmedici...
Here is the deal for my jurisdiction -- Québec Canada
No vaccination, homeschooling. No vaccination--no public schooling access. No college or university access (which all are greatly funded by the government) and its likely your child won't have a playmate, unless the other is also home schooled.
Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
1) Not a decline, more like a plateau. It's also very recent, and doesn't correspond with the rise of the anti-vax campaigns, which happened years earlier.
2) Autism rates did not increase when vaccinations were introduced; again, the rise in autism only happened later--in this case, decades later.
3) Correlation is not causation.
Not that you will read any of this. You've reached your conclusion, and evidence that doesn't fit it will be ignored.
My daughter teaches autistic grade-school children. They are for the main part, very smart, gifted in certain skills. As far as my daughter believes, autism is a genetic defect.
Her biggest successes are taking a child that is deep into his ownself, and bringing him/her out of it, to a more normal life. She says, every child has a passion. Some for toys, some for sports, etc. She uses the child's passion to bring the child to be attentive. It works. Passion is their addiction drug.
Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
I'll believe that when you can show me multiple double blind, placebo test studies that show what you claim. At this point not a single placebo test has ever been done to test the safety or efficacy of a vaccine, not one in history.
If you would like to dispute this fact, please show me the study.
Right, as if that's the ONLY valid way to perform a study.
Polio killed thousands and scared tens of thousands back in the 1960's here in the USA. I will point out that one strain of Polio has been eradicated from the world's population and the other two have been largely relegated to "in the wild" infection rates of under 100 per year. I will ALSO point out that an "in the wild" infection of Polio in the USA HAS NOT HAPPENED in over a decade.
I'm pretty sure it's easy to prove that this is largely due to the vaccination rates for Polio since the 60's, but be my guest if you want to argue otherwise. The same is true for other viral infections which used to kill and scar a percentage of the population, BEFORE vaccines became the norm.
Now I'm not going to sit here and tell you that the number and frequency of vaccinations suggested by the CDC is a good idea and that vaccine makers are not out on a money grab by pushing as many as they do... But I AM saying that vaccines are safe and effective for most people and it is good government policy to encourage their use (in most cases) for public health. You do what you want, but if your kid dies from the measles (yes it can and does happen) that could have been prevented by a vaccine what will you say then? Personally, I recommend finding a doctor you trust to take care of your kids, and take their advice, which likely means you vaccinate your kids along with mine.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Are you a liar or a troll? Liar, I suspect. Whatever. By the time that Salk and Sabin were developing polio vaccines in the 1950s, blinded testing of polio vaccines was a 20-year old subject (without success, it must be said). Dozens of trials on different strains were carried out in the development of the vaccine though the 1950s.
Through the 1980s (and 1990s and 2000s, and most of the 2010s), I've been watching reports of the start of blinded trials of (candidate AIDS vaccine of the year) in the science press. Normally followed by a report of the trial being stopped weeks or months later due to side effects, ineffectiveness, or interfering fuckwit politicians. Though it must be said that there is some progress after 30-odd years of work.
I can only assume that you're a deliberate liar, though I cannot for one second conceive of what your motivation is. Plain evil malice, I guess. Please have a shitty day, then crawl away and die somewhere.
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It is in fact the only valid type of study accepted by the FDA for any medicine other than vaccines. Why do you think that they have such a lower bar for safety and efficacy testing for vaccines than other medicines?
Polio was the most misdiagnosed disease in history. There were several factors contributing to the prevalence of its diagnosis at that time. The primary two factors were DDT and the vaccine itself. It was not understood for several years afterward, but DDT toxicity causes guillain barre syndrome, which has symptom identical to paralytic polio. It was also being used everywhere, even put on food and sprayed directly on children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
The polio vaccine itself also caused guillain barre syndrome as well as spreading actual polio infection. Polio was "eradicated" by defining it almost completely out of existence. For instance, if a child who had gotten the polio vaccine showed signs of polio it was defined as non-polio paralysis. The criteria for diagnosing paralytic polio was changed from around a day of weakness or paralysis of a limb to a minimum of a week of weakness or paralysis.
As far as measles goes it was almost entirely eradicated before the vaccine was ever invented for it. Also in the decades leading up to the introduction of the vaccine less than 0.01% of cases resulted in death, less than the CDC claims the death rate is for flu. It was considered a trivial disease and parents would host measles parties so they could get it over with while their children were young. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Now, can you show me a double-blind placebo test for the efficacy or safety of a vaccine?
Show me the studies.
Again, show me the studies.
You assume because you are a nothing more than a blind sheep believing whatever the government tells you. You know as damn well as I do that our government is corrupt to its core, but you somehow believe that they would never ever lie to you about something related to medicine. And if you somehow believe that the government isn't completely corrupt you really need to brush up on your history.