Donald Trump Says US Military Will Not Allow Transgender People To Serve (theguardian.com)

Donald Trump said on Wednesday he would not allow transgender individuals to serve in the US military in any capacity. From a report: The US president tweeted: "After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow ... transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military." He added: "Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming ... victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail." Trump's decision marks a sharp reversal of a policy initiated under Barack Obama, in which the Pentagon ended a longtime ban on transgender people from serving openly in the military. As a candidate, Trump cast himself as a supporter of LGBT rights and indicated he would uphold certain Obama-era policies designed to protect transgender people.

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No surprise.

[Oswald McWeany]

No surprise. Trump is living in 1940's Italy. He's completely out of touch with the modern world or modern sensibilities. He's like the old drunk great uncle that every family has. The one that has no morality and complains about blacks and women.

No one is going to be upset when he "moves-on", and his antique anti-morality moves on.

Re:No surprise.

[Oswald McWeany]

Modern sensibilities? By not giving in to people with a mental disorder and not allowing them to enter the army

It hasn't been considered a mental disorder by the sciences for decades. However, to humor you, so what if it is? What would the harm be?

Do you prevent people with high-functioning autism in the army? Do you think people with minor anxiety are prevent from joining? What about ADD? Get PTSD you should be kicked out?

Even if were a mental disorder- it's far less harmful than any of the above, and the above won't get you barred from the military.

Re:No surprise.

[Kohath]

"Modern sensibilities" is just a way of referring to the preferences of a small minority of self-appointed elite moralists. It can never make intuitive sense because if it did, the elite club wouldn't be special. For the same reason, it can never be a majority -- if it ever becomes a majority, they shift it so they're special again. They always need to know they're better than you.

Re:No surprise.

[Anonymous Coward]

And the DSM is referring to Gender Identity Variants Disorder as a "A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and assigned gender"
It now refers to Gender Identity Disorder as the mental stress created by GIV.

Yes, it's a mental disorder.

Re:No surprise.

[misexistentialist]

pretty sure the central claim of being a tranny is that they can't function without special treatment

Re:It makes sense

[slack_justyb]

FWIW There are time release options available that are implanted under the skin. I don't know how long they last and how often they're replaced, but I did want to just point that out.

Re:It makes sense

[Anonymous Coward]

To be fair the Army does blanket reject people with a lot of seemingly trivial medical conditions. "Flat foot" being the archetypal example. And they have a form for discharging people for psychological issues.

It's not necessarily out of line to suggest that body dysemphoria is a disqualifying medical condition.

Re:Contentious issue

[AnalogDiehard]

Legislation is probably necessary to roll it back at this point.

What legislation? The ban on transgenders in the military was lifted by an executive order from the Obama administration; there was never any legislation of the kind. Trump is reversing an EO not a law. EOs are not laws, the separation clause reserves that power to the legislative branch, the judicial branch will not interpret EOs as laws, penalties cannot be levied against violators, and most federal agencies not under executive control won't enforce them.

They can going crying to the courts, but the courts have struck down many executive actions from the Obama era.

Re:After consultation with "my Generals"...

[BlueStrat]

Even Franklin Fucking Delano Roosevelt never had the balls to refer to them as "my Generals".

A little history would be apropos, here.

FDR likely referred to the SCOTUS as "his court" after threatening to expand the number of justices and pack the court with "his justices" because the SCOTUS initially viewed provisions of Social Security as unconstitutional. At least the Republicans aren't talking about raising the number of SCOTUS justices and packing the bench to advance their agendas.

Oh, and just as an additional FYI, Woodrow Wilson racially-segregated the US military when it was not racially segregated at that time.

And both POTUS's sent ethnic Germans, Japanese, and more living in the US to camps during WW1 & WW2 and forced them to surrender all their property.

Strat

DoD already studied this

[redmid17]

It's basically a non-issue.

http://www.rand.org/content/da...

Re:After consultation with "my Generals"...

[superwiz]

The President is the commander-in-chief. So the generals of the US armed forces are his generals.

Re:It makes sense

[penandpaper]

but it needs to be at the forefront of equality:

No it needs to be the forefront of lethality. Everything the military does is in service to killing the enemy. The point of Sun Tzu "moral law" isn't that the army needs be moral but to be a "cohesive fighting force" which demonstrably increases the lethality of that fighting force. Everything is secondary to killing the enemy.

Re:and?

[Plus1Entropy]

And women. And gays.

The pattern is so predictable we can all basically sing along to it.

Re:After consultation with "my Generals"...

[NoNonAlphaCharsHere]

The military is NOT the place to do social experimentation.

Like desegregation, for example?