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More Than One Billion People Use Facebook's WhatsApp Service Every Day (whatsapp.com)

Facebook has announced that more than one billion people use its instant messages and voice calling app WhatsApp every day. To put that in perspective, there are 7.5 billion people on this planet. And Facebook, whose marquee service itself is used by more than two billion people every month, says that 13.3 percent of the world's population is using Whatsapp every day.

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  1. In other non-news.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..one billion people every day prove that they are DUMB. Back to you, Chet..

    1. Re:In other non-news.. by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      Back to you, Chet..

      nobody under 55 knows what you are talking about.

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    2. Re:In other non-news.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MARY HARTMAN! MARY HARTMAN!

  2. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Europeans must be so angry.

  3. More Lies by avandesande · · Score: 3, Funny

    They also claimed that 85% of all people over 15 in USA use facefart at least one time per month

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    love is just extroverted narcissism
    1. Re:More Lies by Sindar+By+Choice · · Score: 2

      They also claimed that 85% of all people over 15 in USA use facefart at least one time per month

      I think it's closer to 90%.

    2. Re:More Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They also claimed that 85% of all people over 15 in USA use facefart at least one time per month

      facefart hahahahahaha that's a funny joke

    3. Re:More Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Failbook' is a better name for it.

    4. Re:More Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IDK, are they still aggressively pursuing the use of anything-book?

    5. Re:More Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Failbook' is a better name for it.

      defacebook

    6. Re:More Lies by unixisc · · Score: 1

      It's one thing to dislike FaceBook, and I don't care much for it. WhatsApp is another story altogether, which is why FaceBook bought them!

    7. Re:More Lies by avandesande · · Score: 1

      It's not meant to be funny. That was a trick you would do at camp while someone was sleeping, give them a facefart injection. It's very similar to the online experience.

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      love is just extroverted narcissism
    8. Re: More Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I call it "Facefarm"

  4. 6.5 billion people have common sense by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    The good news is 6.5 people have better sense.

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    "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    1. Re:6.5 billion people have common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WhatsApp really isn't that bad. Yes, it shares contact connections with Facebook, but it does provide truly end-to-end encryption. This is more than can be said of many competing platforms (SMS, Snapchat, Kik, regular phone calls, etc). The only other comparable product in wide use in the US is iMessage (Viber has relatively low US penetration).

    2. Re:6.5 billion people have common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shutup honky

    3. Re:6.5 billion people have common sense by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      The good news is 6.5 people have better sense.

      Or affordable SMS.

    4. Re:6.5 billion people have common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The good news is 6.5 people have better sense.

      Who are you to call a little person "0.5"??!

    5. Re:6.5 billion people have common sense by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      The good news is 6.5 people have better sense.

      Who are you to call a little person "0.5"??!

      It's not a little person. It's a man with split personality disorder.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    6. Re:6.5 billion people have common sense by unixisc · · Score: 1

      I have WhatsApp, but I don't have a FaceBook account connected to the same email or Phone number. So even if FaceBook has my contacts, how exactly do they put their advertizers in front of me? I don't see ads in my WhatsApp app, nor on the PC web equivalent.

    7. Re:6.5 billion people have common sense by unixisc · · Score: 1

      He got it right in the title, even if he missed it in the body

    8. Re:6.5 billion people have common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or use any of the maaaaany other competing apps

    9. Re: 6.5 billion people have common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The end to end end encryption WhatsApp uses is only good enough to prevent (typical) man in the middle attacks, much like how email services do. However, I'd argue that it's no more secure. I've heard the argument that it uses Whisper's stuff to do it. The problem is, I too can use Whisper's code (open source), but I am not legally obligated to not have backdoors or be responsible for man in the middle. Facefarm makes a shit ton off of biometrics, be it faces, texts, or advertising. You would probably be creeped out at how much data they collect with WhatsApp. So, why use WhatsApp when Whisper Systems themselves make their own called Signal and does all the same stuff? That doesn't make any sense. You know the Facebook app and Messenger have to be keeping tabs on WhatsApp that's also installed. Can you use WhatsApp without a Facefarm account? Signal only needs a phone number and you can just get a temporary one from the many internet services out there instead of actually using your phone's actual number.

  5. Lies Lies Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FAKE NEWS!!!

    1. Re:Lies Lies Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > FAKE NEWS!!!

      It's only Fake News, if Netcraft confirms! ;-)

  6. Powered by FreeBSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Powered by FreeBSD.

    1. Re:Powered by FreeBSD by unixisc · · Score: 1

      If it is, why isn't there something in TrueOS's AppCafe that lets me view WhatsApp on my laptop, and type my messages from there - like I can w/ a Wintel PC?

    2. Re:Powered by FreeBSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the FreeBSD people don't care enough about free software. They explicitly like it when companies lock up their work in proprietary products.

  7. Boy do I feel left out... by adosch · · Score: 1

    ...I only use slashdot and carrier pigeons. This might explain the drop-off in invitations to family Thanksgiving.

    1. Re:Boy do I feel left out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's cool that your family sends invitations for Thanksgiving via Slashdot posts. Perhaps you should increase the number of pigeons for redundancy so you may partake in Turkey.

    2. Re:Boy do I feel left out... by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      At least you made sure your relatives had a well provisioned Thanksgiving.

    3. Re:Boy do I feel left out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should also encrypt your data to avoid man in the pigeon attacks.

    4. Re:Boy do I feel left out... by Major_Disorder · · Score: 1

      ...I only use slashdot and carrier pigeons. This might explain the drop-off in invitations to family Thanksgiving.

      At least you made sure your relatives had a well provisioned Thanksgiving.

      It is really hard to stuff carrier pigeons.
      Don't ask me how I know.

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    5. Re:Boy do I feel left out... by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      You don't stuff the pigeons, you stuff them into the turkey.

  8. 7 billion people need to piss and shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook wants to get market share in this sector.

    1. Re:7 billion people need to piss and shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  9. Point of View by sanf780 · · Score: 2

    I am amazed that there are over thousand million active mobile phone lines. Wow, mobile internet is almost everywhere.

    1. Re:Point of View by Solandri · · Score: 1

      There are about 2.4 billion smartphone users in the world. One would assume most if not all of them have access to mobile (or WiFi) Internet since aside from side-loading, that's the only way to get apps onto the phone. And apps are what distinguishes a smartphone from a dumb phone.

      The more interesting thing to me is that there are over 2 billion Facebook users, and you would assume there's a high correlation between that group and smartphone users. Yet only 1 billion of them choose to use Facebook's IM app on their phone.

    2. Re:Point of View by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      I'm more interested in the breakdown of these "users". How many are pets? Bands? Brand names? Corporations? TV Shows? "collector" accounts that only spew reddit images? Deities? Magazines?

      I have no doubt Failbook is popular. I just think that the numbers are inflated by including the accounts that aren't directly tied to a living being. I'm pretty sure whoever runs the "God" Failbook page has at least one other account...

    3. Re:Point of View by unixisc · · Score: 1

      The story was about WhatsApp users, not FaceBook users. That number has to be of living people, since no one, no matter how much s/he loves the dog, will get it not just a phone, but a phone# and account. This is an app that one installs on a phone in order to be able to talk cheaply to people. One has to have a live phone w/ an associated phone# in order to use WhatsApp: it just won't set up if it's just a phone w/o a carrier.

      Very different from FaceBook, where one can open a fictitious account just for one's hobbies, such as gaming, political trolling, and so on

  10. [Facebook's] WhatsApp service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I went to see if TFA actually used that language out of curiosity over Facebook buying a service vs taking credit for it, but the only link is to a separate slashdot summary. I'm not sure which is more disappointing.

  11. Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm in India. I can't name a single person that doesn't use WhatsApp. Even "dumb phones" have it. No one uses SMS.

    1. Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i've never heard of it

    2. Re:Not surprising by no1nose · · Score: 1

      Why don't they use SMS in India? Here in the US we have SMS and iMessage as the huge players. Does Whats App use a different network that is lower cost?

    3. Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i've never heard of it

      India?

      Oh it's a fabulous country, full of rich traditions. You should definitely read up on it!

    4. Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about India, but here in Brazil SMS was expensive. Then WhatsApp came and dominated the market and forced SMS to be cheaper(not a lot really) to compete.

      But in the mean time WhatsApp started the VoIP calls thing, and it uses only a tiny bit of bandwidth and you have to pay nothing for the minutes used. Now the carriers are lobbying to ban the app because it uses the phone number as your ID, and the phone number is a public concession(?!)

      By the time the carriers wake up, they will have lost 80% of the market as it is already pretty normal for most poor and many middle class people to call using VoIP only.

    5. Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      good question. not the op but I don't know for sure. iMessage is an apple thing which now has end-to-end encryption i think. whatsapp apparently allows for audio/video calls similar to skype (never used messenger) which makes it lucrative for folks who are making long distance calls from places which have free wifi. I believe SMS is charged on a per-message basis after the first N. So whatsapp is more like an all-you-can-eat buffet

    6. Re: Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's an obvious answer to non Americans. International text and calls are / were ridiculous. Whatsapp was the most convenient and pervasive way around that. Anyone with international friends used whatsapp.

      I expect Facebook acquisition to slowly kill it and something else to pop up. The way of the world.

    7. Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work near Microsoft so I'm surrounded by a lot of your kind. I also manage installing our iOS app on phones, so I've touched thousands of phones. I have never seen one with WhatsApp installed. I have never heard anyone in person mention it. You're full of crap with your ridiculous claim. I doubt you know even two people that use it.

    8. Re: Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's interesting. I'm from South Africa and I don't know 2 people who don't use it. It was a godsend over SMS charges (of which I still only receive a 100 free ones on a US $40 per month contact before I start paying about US $0.20 per message. So yeah, over here everyone uses it

    9. Re: Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their culture doesn't promote ethics like ours. That is why they lie and exaggerate like that. We know damn well almost no one uses that garbage.

    10. Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because in India, SMS is not free: people get a certain number of free messages within a certain geography every month, but get charged beyond that. Not an issue with WhatsApp, if they just use WiFi to send & receive messages. Also, they need MMS if they want to send photos or videos, and that gets expensive when using an SMS app instead of WhatsApp.

    11. Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In India, last I looked, not too many people have iPhones, which limits the usefulness of iMessages. So one's choices are either Hangouts/Duo, or WhatsApp. Also note that in India, Blackberries and Lumias are reasonably popular, and WhatsApp covers those 2 as well

    12. Re:Not surprising by dugancent · · Score: 1

      I don't work in tech (I'm in healthcare) but I have WhatsApp on my iPhone. Every single Indian coworker I have a contact for pops up.

      Eastern US.

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    13. Re: Not surprising by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Poland. Have yet to meet a single person who uses WhatsApp.

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    14. Re:Not surprising by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      WhatsApp allows voice and video calls over wifi for free
       
      I live in the US and I don't know anyone that uses iMessage. Everyone (iphone, android) has WhatsApp, and it works with all long distance/international users on the first try. Plus unlike SMS you get a delivery confirmation and read receipt for every message. Only a very rare few friends and family don't use WhatsApp.

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    15. Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Echoing everyone else, in the last two years I've been to China, India, Mexico and Brazil. Everyone I met on these trips uses Whatsapp, it's very popular outside the US. I grew up in the midwest and live in Michigan. If I look through my contacts now, about 10% of my contacts in the US have installed Whatsapp. I doubt many of those US contacts use it often, but they have installed it.

    16. Re: Not surprising by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      Poland. Have yet to meet a single person who uses WhatsApp.

      What do they use? In Thailand Line dominates. Everybody uses it. you'd be hard pressed to find a single phone that doesn't have it installed.

  12. How much revenue? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

    When it came out it wanted 1 $ a year. I think I snagged a deal of 3$ for 5 years. How much it costs to provide the service, does it generate any revenue, are there any profits?

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    1. Re:How much revenue? by sanf780 · · Score: 1
      WhatsApp started on BlackBerry, then iPhone, and finally Android. The start price for the application was 5 USD for single perpetual license in the early days. The 1USD/year came years later, with the first year being free.

      I read somewhere the future plan to monetize WhatsApp is to let merchants into the game. As in let merchants send you promotional messages. Note that Facebook knows where you have been, so you should see the strategy of targeted marketing in play. Targeted ads are well paid.

      The plan to monetize WhatsApp these days involves creating big data records, I fear.

  13. Zuckerberg did not create WhatsApp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just to make sure his fan boys don't hail him for the wrong thing

  14. And there was much rejoicing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yaaaay!

    Well, not yet anyway.

    But we can hope Zuckerburg visits the frozen land of Nador...

  15. Suckers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Suckers the lot of them.

  16. How many ... by Causemos · · Score: 1

    How many of them are bots?

    1. Re:How many ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shsss! They know most of them are fake accounts, automated accounts, and duplicates. But that inconvenient truth will detract from the advertising rates.

  17. The power of "free" by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

    more than one billion people use its instant messages and voice calling app WhatsApp every day

    And if they started charging for use, even 1 cent per message, that number would drop by 99%

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    1. Re:The power of "free" by iampiti · · Score: 1

      Now it's completely free (as in money) but you may be aware that the app used to cost 1€ per year. Somehow it managed to build up a huge user base and then Facebook bought it and eliminated the need to pay.
      Of course pay-per-message is not the same thing as a yearly payment

  18. Time to monetize by wh1pp3t · · Score: 1
    I use it because of family/friends. But once ads are blasted mid-conversation, I'm out.

    The pervasiveness of marketing in mobile amazes me. It obviously works on the greater population though...

  19. American billion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds much, but they are speaking about american billions, which are only 10^9

    1. Re:American billion by unixisc · · Score: 1

      World's population is 7.5 'American billion' people. Incidentally, what other billion is there?

    2. Re:American billion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion

      There are two meanings. Strange, I know.

    3. Re:American billion by Whibla · · Score: 1

      Incidentally, what other billion is there?

      The two definitions of billion are:

      1) One thousand million (10^9)
      2) One million million (10^12)

      There's a nice pretty map of which countries use which version, and a bit of history as to when some of them, the UK particularly, changed which definition it uses officially.

      While most people now tend to use 10^9 there are a few 'hold-outs' and if it's important it can be worth checking which version they're referring to, just to be sure...

    4. Re:American billion by cakiwi · · Score: 1
  20. Method behind the... by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Nice way to insult above 13% of the world's population!

    The reason for this, of course, is that WhatsApp is the most cross-platform multimedia messaging service above SMS. It's not only there on iOS and Android, but also on Windows 10 Mobile, some Blackberry versions and I've even seen it on legacy phones. And with the most recent versions, it supports both audio and video internet calling, which is very handy if one wishes to call people overseas but doesn't want to pay for a phone plan overseas. While I FaceTime some family members who have iPhones, others I videocall using WhatsApp.

    Also, while in the US, texts are generally free, it's not the same thing elsewhere in the world, so even there, WhatsApp is useful. Whats more, in WhatsApp, one can embed photos & videos in messages and send them. If one is using iMessage or Hangouts, one had better hope that the person on the other end has the same: an Android user may not want iMessage, and an iPhone user may not want Hangouts. With WhatsApp, all one has to do is confirm that the other person has WhatsApp on their phone.

  21. totally believe by aod7br7932 · · Score: 1

    200 million of those are from Brazil

  22. My wife's family uses it by lgordon · · Score: 1

    WhatsApp is really handy, and not as a replacement for texting. You can make phone calls anywhere with good quality, sure, but everything does that. Where whatsapp excels is in groups, where all the messages go to everyone in the groups, and most people are in multiple groups. So my wife has a group with her siblings, and one with her family, and one with her cousins, so you wind up having these continuous threads of conversations, which include texts, voice memos, pictures, links, etc. More like a slack conversation, as they are persistent in nature.

  23. which make Facebook the new AOL. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And it's just as cancerous.

  24. Thanks so much for WhatsApp! by ffkom · · Score: 1

    I'm so glad I can honestly tell that billion people I do not want to communicate with: "Sorry, but I am not on Facebook, and certainly not using their messenger".

    Facebook should really separate completely from the open Internet and keep its users in a walled, electro-fenced garden. The Internet is just a better place with Facebook users staying amongst their kind.

  25. I thought it was just for Tinder contacts by Kellamity · · Score: 1

    I don't have any friends that use it, I have only heard that if you meet people on Tinder and you don't want to give them your real number yet (or keep chatting in the shit Tinder interface) you get them to ad you on WhatsApp. I didn't realise there were people who used it as an way to contact their actual friends instead of SMS.

  26. Can confirm use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My cat who lives on Uranus uses Whatapp when communicating with inter dimensional entities. So this articles claim must be true.

  27. Re:Method behind the... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My employer (a bank) wants me to use WA, mostly to hand down on-the-spot management decrees and demand feedback all hours of the day. Even though there are strict policies in place regarding business communication that on face value seem to exclude it's use (bank secrets and all that). The "requirement" is of course not stated anywhere explicitly, but the management put out strong hints. And boy do they assume EVERYBODY has it, as they simply add joiners' numbers to groups without prior asking or even notification.

    I've never installed it, since I am happy not to share my (private) address book with the WA company, and have sufficient call minutes and texts included in my contract for my purposes, and am still happy to send pictures and other files around using e-mail (which is client-agnostic and can actually be sent to computers (convenient) without them needing a SIM card/MSISDN number, but is ALSO available from my mobile).

    So I am still happy with my 5-year-old smartphone, that doesn't have an OS version high enough to get onto the app store or install many apps any more (battery life seems to last much longer too with all the age-crippled snoopware).

    I could of course go buy an extra device + contract just for the bank's convenience, but how screwed-up is that? (In my locale the exchange rate to the USD is not favourable and most smartphone cost slightly more than a trivial amount.) Besides, there are tax implications...

    Well, I have started sending out resumes this week.

  28. Re:Method behind the... by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Fair point. You are describing a business case. I was describing a personal case: I have family members that have both Galaxies and iPhones, and very often, we like to share not just messages, but also photos & videos. My parents struggle w/ email, but have somewhat figured out at least how to VIEW things in WhatsApp

    For what you are describing, it seems pretty inappropriate. Like you said, email is more suitable, and even something like Skype.

  29. Where are they? by Trogre · · Score: 1

    Where are all these people? The ones I know use Viber or plain SMS for IM.

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