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YouTube Red and Google Play Music Will Merge To Create a New Service (theverge.com)

YouTube's head of music, Lyor Cohen, confirmed that the company is planning on merging its Google Play Music service with YouTube Red to create a new streaming offering. "The important thing is combining YouTube Red and Google Play Music, and having one offering," Cohen said. The Verge reports: Right now, YouTube's music ecosystem is unnecessarily complicated. There's YouTube Red, which removes ads from videos and lets you save them offline, while also giving you access to Google Play Music for free. Then there's YouTube Music, which anyone can use, but it gets better if you're signed up for YouTube Red. And YouTube TV is also a thing -- an entirely separate thing -- but it's not available everywhere yet. The merger has been rumored within the industry for months, and recently picked up steam after Google combined the teams working on the two streaming services earlier this year. In a statement to The Verge, Google said it will notify users of any changes before they happen. "Music is very important to Google and we're evaluating how to bring together our music offerings to deliver the best possible product for our users, music partners and artists. Nothing will change for users today and we'll provide plenty of notice before any changes are made."

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  1. Music is very important to Google by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    your call is very important to us

  2. Re:they were just exploiting the good work that .. by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

    Redtube existed before Youtube Red

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  3. As long as we can continue to rip the free streams by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    >> XXX and YYY Will Merge To Create ZZZ

    As long as we can continue to rip the free streams, do whatever you want.

  4. Too expensive by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    The only feature I'm interested in with YouTube Red is the background play in my iPodTouch (e.g., iOS/iPhone). The monthly cost is too much to bother so I find the audio programs elsewhere.

  5. Intriguing by grimfate · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I use Google Play Music for my music playing and there's one feature I've wanted for ages: The ability to add YouTube videos as audio-only to Google Play Music playlists. When they merge, I hope this happens!

    1. Re:Intriguing by norweeg · · Score: 1

      Curious if you also believe Apple should not bundle its music app on the iPhone. I find it absurd, though, that you would call including Google Play Music on android "monopolistic" when it is #3 at best behind competitors Spotify and Apple Music.

    2. Re:Intriguing by norweeg · · Score: 1

      Isn't this still true or can you remove Edge?

  6. Re:Your privacy is very important to us. by Noishkel · · Score: 1

    So I see someone's already down voting this. What kind of mental defective has a problem with privacy?

  7. How about actually offering it by cerberusss · · Score: 1

    Blah blah marketing... these two have been the same for the last year or so -- if you got one, you got the other. How about actually offering it? YouTube Red is available in five countries: United States, Australia, Mexico, New Zealand and South Korea.

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  8. Re:Give It Up by GuB-42 · · Score: 2

    I gladly would but I can't (no YouTube Red in Europe)
    I hate ads but I still want content creators to be compensated.
    And direct payment (Patreon...) is not what I want. I watch videos from dozens of channels and there is no way I'm going to pay for each one of them, and I feel that only giving to the "best" ones is unfair.

    Right now, the AdBlocker is on. But not only it is sometimes troublesome, especially on mobile, and it isn't a viable solution since both Google and content creators deserve to get paid. IMHO, if you don't like ads, you should welcome alternatives, such as paid subscriptions, if you insist on blocking ads and refuse to pay, you are just a freeloader.

  9. Both are failing by randomErr · · Score: 1

    YouTube has been free since it was created, Why pay for Red or YouTube TV when for the same price you can get Hulu and/or Netflix? Maybe that why subscriptions are flat.

    Google Music is terrible. I was listening to stream and it kept pushing a style of music I don't like to me. The more I thumbs downed the style the more it played. Once its said I ran out of skips I knew it wasn't listening to my requests. It was just pushing was the record studios were paying Google to play.

    I'll stick with regular YouTube because it knows what I like. And I'll gladly pay $10 a month for IHeart because it remembers what I like and don;t like,

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  10. That's not how it works... by Wubby · · Score: 1

    I didn't sign up for YouTube Red and then got Google Music for free. I signed up for Google Music and they lumped in a useless service called YouTube Red that I don't use or care about. They better not F this up. I don't want to have to move my freaking music library AGAIN! I moved off of Amazon when they stopped supporting Linux despite using Flash for everything. It's just crap!

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    1. Re:That's not how it works... by norweeg · · Score: 1

      You might find this useful http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/...

  11. I wish there were more details by norweeg · · Score: 1

    I actually have Google Play Music/Youtube Red and I'm just dying to know what they plan to do! Hopefully its better than their half-hearted attempt to add podcasts to GPM (when they announced it, I was hoping they were going to by Pocket Casts and roll that into the GPM app, but no such luck)

    1. Re:I wish there were more details by caseih · · Score: 1

      Don't even say it! Pocket Casts is my most used phone app and the last think I'd want is for Google to buy it and ruin it like they seem to have done with most things they've acquired and really what they've done to most of their stuff people actually use. Please don't give them ideas!

    2. Re:I wish there were more details by norweeg · · Score: 1

      I think you're safe, they already fucked up and missed the opportunity to have a usable podcast service.

  12. Doing what Google is best at by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Creating confusion. Conflating products. Changing names. Moving the goalposts. Making sure that nobody know exactly what does what. Is it Hangouts? Duo? Allo? Google Talk? Google Voice?

  13. Subject doesn't mean "first 8 words" by tepples · · Score: 1

    I suspect your comment was misunderstood because you started a sentence in the Comment Subject and finished it in the Comment. It's more common here for a subject to summarize a comment than to begin it. I would have formatted it like this:

    YouTube exploited RedTube's goodwill

    They were just exploiting the good work that RedTube already did for the play on the name. Yawn ... is Google profitable at anything other than selling ads?

  14. Still occupies system partition space by tepples · · Score: 1

    Hide the icon if you don't want to see it.

    Hiding an application's icon doesn't reclaim the space that the application occupies on the device's internal memory. This hurts especially on a device lacking a microSDXC slot because of Microsoft's exFAT patent. Even "Uninstall updates" followed by "Disable" leaves a copy of the app in the system partition.

  15. Stop trying to make YouTube Red a thing. by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

    The only way it could ever possibly be worth paying for is access to higher bitrate so the compression doesn't dump mud all over everything. Keep fucking up existing services trying to get people into the new tier though, see how that works out.