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Uber Knowingly Leased Unsafe Cars To Drivers, Says Report (usatoday.com)

According to a report by the Wall Street Journal, Uber knowingly rented recalled Honda sports utility vehicles to its drivers in Singapore, where at least one of which caught fire. USA Today reports: The paper reported Uber's Singapore office bought more than 1,000 Honda Vezel sports utility vehicles to rent to its drivers there. The cars contained a faulty electrical part that could catch on fire and Honda had recalled in Japan and elsewhere. There had been at least six reports of fires in the Vezel. In a statement Uber said that as soon as it learned of a Honda Vezel catching fire, it took swift action to fix the problem, coordinating with Singapore's Land Transport Authority as well as technical experts. However it acknowledged that it could have done more. The company said it has since introduced robust protocols and hired three dedicated experts in Singapore to ensure that it is fully responsive to safety recalls.

35 comments

  1. Rape first, then burn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gotta love those robust protocols

  2. Unless you obsessively hate Uber by Kohath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a nothing story. Cars have recalls all the time. You go to the dealer and they get fixed. What's the difference if Uber leased a car expecting drivers to go get it fixed?

    If you're an obsessed Uber-hater, then "OMG!!!! This is 1 million smoking guns at once!!!". Give the hate a rest. No one wants to hear about your ridiculous obsessions or conspiracy theories or WTF ever.

    1. Re:Unless you obsessively hate Uber by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      In the race to the bottom, many will die and those who do the racing do not care, not one iota, if fact it gets them off to see others die as a result of their decisions and getting away with it. No conspiracy, just psychopaths at work, doing what they normally do, more for me and fuck everyone else.

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    2. Re:Unless you obsessively hate Uber by Kohath · · Score: 0

      "Race to the bottom" is "slippery slope" (a.k.a. "fear mongering"). If you have an "A leads to B and here's why" argument, then make it. Otherwise stop trolling.

    3. Re:Unless you obsessively hate Uber by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 0

      In the race to the bottom, many will die

      Zero have died. Also zero injuries. Plus the problem has been fixed, so the number of deaths and injuries will continue to be zero forever.

      Why is there no Slashdot headline for the zero aliens that attacked Earth yesterday? That is a much more important non-story.

    4. Re:Unless you obsessively hate Uber by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      English is a language, it involves grammar, which incorporates things like past tense and future tense.
      will verb 1. expressing the future tense.
      have verb 1. used with a past participle to form the perfect, pluperfect, and future perfect tenses, and the conditional mood.

      Sorry to go all grammar nazi on you, but apparently you require it, perhaps English as a second language has you confused.

      Yes, just like all others industries, racing to the bottom leads to pain, suffering and death on the part of workers and customers and way to few prison sentences for management.

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    5. Re:Unless you obsessively hate Uber by Kohath · · Score: 1

      Breaking news: Uber failed to prevent an invasion of Japan by fire ants!

      In a shocking display of indifference and hubris, Uber drivers maintained their normal schedule yesterday even as reports of invasive biting fire ants alarmed and troubled residents of Japan. "I think they should have done something. You know, if they could," said one resident who requested to remain anonymous.

      The White House press room declined to comment other than saying this story is "fake news".

    6. Re:Unless you obsessively hate Uber by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      will verb 1. expressing the future tense.

      Except there is no "future" here. The problem is fully resolved. No one was harmed. No one will be harmed. It is over. Other than just gratuitous Uber-bashing, it is a non-story.

    7. Re:Unless you obsessively hate Uber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rtb61 is a moron. Having a basic grasp of the English language does not make your illogical, non-evidence based ramble useful. And trying to correct other people after they've exposed your idiocy is something I wouldn't even expect from a teenager. I think it's time to get out of your mums basement and to contribute to the world in a positive manner.

    8. Re:Unless you obsessively hate Uber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Car companies should send recall bulletins to Uber and Uber could relay that info to affected drivers immediately. The only thing that needs to be built is a reporting tool and a web service.

    9. Re:Unless you obsessively hate Uber by GlennC · · Score: 1

      Except there is no "future" here. THIS problem is fully resolved. No one was harmed. No one will be harmed.

      FTFY...unless you're a time traveler, can you be sure that there won't be a problem in the future? Somebody, somewhere won't skip maintenance to save their meager earnings and get into an accident as a result? Or a driver will go until exhaustion to get one more fare?

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  3. So Uber actually is a regular livery service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do they do this worldwide? Shouldn't all the same regulations apply? Maybe not if they say the driver is the renter. Good one!

  4. "sports utility vehicles" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, now everything that isn't a sedan is called an SUV?

    This thing is a hatchback, and if you really stretch and use the new definition for a hatchback, then maybe you could call it a crossover. You know, because it's a cross between a car, and a car with a hatchback.

  5. Deaths? Injuries? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So... just how many deaths / injuries are we talking here? Have Many died yet?

  6. As my good friend that is a Seattle cop said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    about Hondas, "why would you expect someone to pay attention when driving when they didn't pay attention why buying?' It's just sad how many people don't educate themselves on cars and instead buy a Honda.

    1. Re:As my good friend that is a Seattle cop said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. I was a small town cop for six years while going to college to get my CS degree. I realized after about six months that every single accident I was called to was either caused by a Honda or could have easily been prevented by a Honda. Their buyers just don't pay attention when buying or driving. If they paid attention while buying, they wouldn't have bought a Honda.

      The one exception is the S2000. My roommate had one in college. He spent more in repairs than the damn thing was worth, but the drivers of those cars are usually (misguided) enthusiasts so they were mislead. It they had paid attention and were educated, they would have bought a Miata..

    2. Re:As my good friend that is a Seattle cop said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've noticed that CRV drivers tend to be especially ignorant. Not all of them, but a noticeably higher percentage than other vehicles. Way worse than Odyssey drivers. I've had a few chances to drive one (owned by a friend), and it seemed fine mechanically, which leaves the conclusion that for some reason idiots gravitate towards it.

  7. Re: As my good friend that is a Seattle cop said.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This. Honda owners simply don't pay attention. If they did, they would have bought something else.

  8. 1 car caught fire. by ma1wrbu5tr · · Score: 1

    Wow. Jumped on the ole "throw some shade at Uber" train, did we? Dealers in the US sell cars that are under recall all the time and are not required to tell the buyer.

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    1. Re:1 car caught fire. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uber is complete shit.

    2. Re:1 car caught fire. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are a fucking retard

  9. Re: As my good friend that is a Seattle cop said.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good point. No car enthusiast ever bought a Honda. They just have too many problems and are too expensive to keep running.

  10. Re: As my good friend that is a Seattle cop said.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my nearly forty years of riding motorcycles almost daily, the only four times I've been hurt were by Hondas that weren't paying attention.

  11. what is legal liability like in Singapore? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Can uber hide under there not so independent contractor to get out having to pay out if some got hurt??

    Use an EULA to get out of it?

    1. Re:what is legal liability like in Singapore? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      What do you need a EULA for? I don't know of anyone who leases a car to someone and then expects to own the liability.

      Hell I'm leasing a car right now. If there's a product recall it's still up to me to go drive the car to the shop to get it fixed, much like it's up to me to get it serviced, not crash it, or generally look after myself.

    2. Re:what is legal liability like in Singapore? by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      Depends when the recall is announced...
      If the recall occurred *before* you leased the car, then you should reasonably expect for the lease company to have resolved the problem before supplying the car to you.
      If the recall occurs *after* you took possession of the car, then you'd expect whoever you lease the car from to inform you of the recall, and to ensure you're provided with a courtesy car while the work is being carried out. After all, if you earn a living as a cab driver the last thing you want is to be without a car for however long it takes to correct the problem as you can't be earning during this time.

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  12. and when the driver get's fired for loging dealer by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    and when the driver get's fired for logging dealer time as working hours and is forced to pay a lease break fee then what?

  13. Re:and when the driver get's fired for loging deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when the driver get's fired for logging dealer time as working hours

    Implying Uber drivers are employees or get paid for even a second without a customer in their car. At best they have to get the car fixed on their own dime and get blacklisted when they try to get reimbursed for it.

  14. Some drivers work dangerously long hours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was talking to one, he liked uber (in fact all uber drivers I've spoken to, perhaps 5 or 6, like ubering).
    He was making good money but he was working up to 14 hours a day, 7 days a week. It was his choice and apparently legal in the UK, but surely if uber can monitor his work they'd be liable if he caused an accident?
    It's bloody stupid.

  15. Re: Stupiude DEWP ArTiKeL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BeauHD really needs to be removed from the slashdot editing team, I see such regular complaints about how poor the posts he makes are that it's clear it really is an issue. No other editors/posts make so many stupid mistakes.

  16. Negative Press by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

    Has there been any other company in recent times that has had so much constant and invariably negative press?

    The PR people at Uber must be wondering what they can do to help. Seems like every week there's a negative report about Uber, and almost never anything positive about them.

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    1. Re: Negative Press by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Hmm... Would we count Trump as a brand? I lean towards yes.

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  17. Fake news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Singapore is a very liberal/globalist/deepstate place and this report is specifically designed to hurt Uber simply because they promote free markets which goes against the SJW agenda. Don't believe anything "japan times" reports, they are owned by George Soros who is an avowed globalist and supporter of the CIA and NSA who hate white people and your freedom.

    1. Re:Fake news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow

      get back on the meds asap man!