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Net Neutrality Rollback Faces New Criticism From US Congress -- And 16 Million Comments (techcrunch.com)
An anonymous reader quotes TechCrunch's newest update on the FCC's attempt to gut net neutrality protections:
10 Representatives who helped craft the law governing the FCC itself have submitted an official comment on the proposal ruthlessly dismantling it... The FCC is well within its rights to interpret the law, and it doesn't have to listen to contrary comments from the likes of you and me. It does, however, have to listen to Congress -- "congressional intent" is a huge factor in determining whether an interpretation of the law is reasonable. And in the comment they've just filed, Representatives Pallon, Doyle et al. make it very clear that their intent was and remains very different from how the FCC has chosen to represent it.
"The law directs the FCC to look at ISP services as distinct from those services that ride over the networks. The FCC's proposal contravenes our intent... While some may argue that this distinction should be abandoned because of changes in today's market, that choice is not the FCC's to make. The decision remains squarely with those of us in Congress -- and we have repeatedly chosen to leave the law as it is."
In another letter Thursday, 15 Congressmen asked FCC Chairman Ajit Pai to extend the time period for comments. They note the proposed changes have received more than 16 million comments, more than four times the number of comments on any previous FCC item. The Hill reports that the previous record was 4 million comments -- during the FCC's last net neutrality proceeding in 2014 -- and "the lawmakers also noted that the comment period for approving net neutrality in 2014 was 60 days. Pai has only allowed a 30-day comment period for his plan to rollback the rules."
"The law directs the FCC to look at ISP services as distinct from those services that ride over the networks. The FCC's proposal contravenes our intent... While some may argue that this distinction should be abandoned because of changes in today's market, that choice is not the FCC's to make. The decision remains squarely with those of us in Congress -- and we have repeatedly chosen to leave the law as it is."
In another letter Thursday, 15 Congressmen asked FCC Chairman Ajit Pai to extend the time period for comments. They note the proposed changes have received more than 16 million comments, more than four times the number of comments on any previous FCC item. The Hill reports that the previous record was 4 million comments -- during the FCC's last net neutrality proceeding in 2014 -- and "the lawmakers also noted that the comment period for approving net neutrality in 2014 was 60 days. Pai has only allowed a 30-day comment period for his plan to rollback the rules."
I reviewed all of them and not a single one mentioned FIRST POST m'ladies
Where's the link to the vid?
Well, at least you'll get to see the new vanguard of pro-Putin "muh Clintons muh DNC" shitposters that mysteriously haven't stopped escalating since last year and strangely never seem to have engaged opinions on actual news for nerds...
It seems that Ajit Pai is the most openly corrupt government official that I've seen in United States politics. Am I missing something?
Keep in mind, I'm not saying he's the most 'corrupt,' but rather the most open about it. And when I say 'corrupt' I just mean pandering to special interest groups.
The instant he was appointed he basically said, "We're going to hand the Internet over to big corporations, and smile while we do it." Then just laughed whenever anybody said that it's contrary to what everyone wants. For example, the comments thing, "We nominally have a comment period, but we've decided to just ignore them."
I just don't get it. I'd expect speeches trying to justify what he's been doing, or trying to convince people to come around to his way of thinking...but really it seems like he just doesn't care. On one hand, that's kind of refreshing in a 'no bullshit' kind of way, but on the other hand, I don't agree at all with how he's handling the situation.
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The way to get net neutrality is to convince Republicans that it is important, not cater to the 0.01% of the population who might actually change their votes over this.
Congestion breaks all networks.
no network neutrality creates a profit motive for discriminatory artificial congestion and choke points.
You monster! You wasted a lot of good popcorn!!
then the story is worthless.
The way to get net neutrality is to convince Republicans that it is important, not cater to the 0.01% of the population who might actually change their votes over this.
A very insightful post.
One of the problems with the current implementation is that a) it isn't what most people think of, and b) it was an FCC overreach of jurisdiction that should have been done by a different department.
This whole thing could be solved instantly by a law passed by congress. That way there would be no arguing, and the administration would be required to implement it.
If the law isn't passed because you don't have the majority, then you can base the upcoming elections on the merits of that law (among other meritorious issues). You could use it as a policy plank to help drive your party's elections.
I'm astonished that no one is trying anything *constructive* to fix this.
It's entirely possible that he expects to get a niche cushy no-show "consulting" job at Comcast or some other telco, or perhaps at a "think tank" when his term at the FCC ends.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
...it just seems pretty strange that FCC is repealing a law it has no authority to repeal.
FCC doesn't make the law, it is not up to them to decide if they want to follow it or not, which is exactly the congress guys point?
why bother with congress making any laws if fcc doesn't follow them anyways?
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
I mean, you've got Dick Cheney for raw, open corruption. And the stuff that gets done on the local level would make even him blush. I remember reading a story of a land owner that wanted some land that had some endangered goats. Couldn't have the land because of the goats. So he bought some nearby land, but up some broken, rickety fences and stuck sheep with syphilis on the land. The goats jumped the fence and the sheep, died of syphilis and blammo, he got the land. City turned a complete blind eye to the entire scheme.
There's still a small chance Pai's drinking his own Kool-aid. Those city reps and the goats? No chance whatsoever.
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The article doesn't say as much, but looking every person up, they are Democrats. Glad to see the liberals are being liberal, but FWIW they still aren't the ones in control, so this could amount to nothing more than posturing. :-(
Bullshit Detected. Please don protective gear!
"Fake news" referred to something which happened during the election. There were sites which generated names similar to the legitimate new sites, had short-lived domains which looked vaguely respectable. They would fabricate headlines, with clear political motives, and their links would be shared through political echo-chambers like Facebook endlessly.
The term was quickly co-opted by certain political groups to dilute the meaning and de-legitimize criticism by the mainstream media. It's not the "fake news" people were talking about.
As for alternative news, beware the sites which produces news with shock DJ-like banter, expanding fabrications into sensational rants which go on for hours. Their headlines are engineered to echo the worst fears of their supporters and drive them into a tizzy of rage (and ad impressions, subscription increases). The fake news sites were modeled to pander to these bases and draw their immediate attention.
Fuck you congress. Until we have healthcare i'm not listening to you anymore.
And you better get your shit together or 2018/2020 will be the end of your time in congress.
I may be wrong, but congressional intent is also worthless. If they intended something else, they should have written a better law. That's why the courts exist. They determine if the interpretation was correct or not. Congress may be law maker, but they are not law enforcers.
Pizzagate WAS fake news.
In what way was it NOT???
Why did you start out with the asinine ass-cover and then bull ahead with something you thought could be bullshit that *was* bullshit?
So the question to ask is why are you making such blatantly false claims?
Even if you're bleating BS about it being some convoluted DNC conspiracy (and, what? Alex Jones is in on it?!?!?!?!), it is STILL fake news.
To "summarise" you claim "It's not fake news because it was made up!!!"
Dumbass.
Don’t blame me, your the one who fell for it.
Podesta emails – actually leaked online – contained much incriminating info about many things – its the real story that was not covered.
pizzagate – shiny object used to distract the public from the emails and to discredit the actual story.
A very old trick.
Prisons should only be used for violent people that must be separated from civilized society.
How do you propose to deal with guys like Bernie Madoff then? He robbed people of a lifetime of hard work - made it all mean nothing. Just because he didn't use violence to achieve his ends makes him no less worthy of separation from society. In a way I fear guys like him more than a thug who tries to beat me up.
For everyone else, there are more constructive punishments. For instance, Ajit could wear an ankle tracker will cleaning bedpans in nursing homes everyday for the next 10 years.
How is tracking his whereabouts going to matter? We already know where he is and it's not stopping him from being an asshat. Plus I've cleaned bedpans. While not fun work it isn't nearly awful enough. If you want to do creative punishments you need to get a lot more creative.
The Democrats really need to figure out how to start winning some elections.
They need to gerrymander the way the republicans have for the last 20 years or even better, get rid of gerrymandering altogether. The party in charge on the years we do the census gets to decide how the political districts are drawn in most of the US. The republicans by happenstance or luck have won the majority in the elections during these years and so they got to draw districts largely favorable to them. Honestly they've been very clever about this and I think they caught the democrats sleeping about the importance of this.
There are other problems too of course but gerrymandering is a HUGE part of the reason the democrats struggle to win elections.
There are TWO kinds of net neutrality and we didn't get the one people really wanted.
I agree completely; let ISP's be treated as information providers. Then, when a site is found to distribute child porn, the ISP's become active participants in the distribution of child porn and they can be held fully responsible.
If you are experiencing congestion, you should try reducing your traffic. It should not be the responsibility of the ISP to determine what it thinks I want. If I want to stream GoT in 1080p at the expense of my being able to do anything else online, I should be allowed to make that decision for myself and not have my ISP say "well, we're going to reduce the bandwidth of that stream to 480p in case you decide to do other things".
Oh, you meant congestion caused by your neighbor? That shouldn't even be a thing. Your ISP shouldn't be giving your neighbor 99% of the available bandwidth and only giving you 1%. Bandwidth should be divided evenly across all currently-active connections. Perhaps they can configure it such that if you aren't actually using your full allocation, then your neighbor can exceed their allocation. But the moment you need to use more, it brings it back in line such that you are both using roughly equal bandwidth, REGARDLESS of what you are each using it for.
"Oh, you meant congestion caused by your neighbor? That shouldn't even be a thing."
That is a thing...its a thing every network engineer takes into account on every network design, its called oversubscription. Not only is it necessary, getting the oversubscription rates right is one of the most important factors in designing a large scale network. Designing a network that guarantees full bandwidth to every subscriber across every possible network interconnect will get extremely expensive extremely fast and doing so would all be for nothing since the chances of all subscribers using all of their bandwidth at the same time would never happen under any circumstances.
Now that Trump TV has gotten off the ground, and we have our first official state-run media outlet, there is no longer a need for net neutrality, which is so 2015.
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You have a monopoly controlling all media in the US which despises everything except the extreme leftist view, and worry about TrumpTV which has never aired a show? 98% of CNN's coverage is negative, and refusal to air non-leftist positions for nearly a decade, MSNBC at 97% and the same. NYT and WAPO both openly stated last summer that they would no longer have a neutral position and would try to destroy Trump, promoting fabricated news just like CNN to further their leftist ideology. And to be sure we don't limit censorship and bias to print and TV, Google, Facebook, and Twitter have all been censoring opinions from the right and promoting far Leftism as well.
Hell, even Fox which gets accused of supporting Trump has 52% negative coverage and a whole slew of far left wing progressive shows where no right wing opinions are allowed and even centrist opinions are discouraged.
You are worried about some Station that is new and never aired a show while nearly everything you get is propaganda? Good grief!
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Shh don't let our comrades know we are on to them. It's much more fun to watch the illusion dismantle itself.
Slashdot readers don't seem to really give a shit.
I would rather have potheads from california running our country than I would congress critters drunk on corporate koolaid.
You realize, that thanks to this evil corporations you can vent your frustration on the internet. If potheads from California would run the country you could vent your frustration in the rehabilitation work camp.
This "information service" bullshit by the FCC has been going on a lot longer than since Trump/Pai took over. Where were you, Congress? Why you give the FCC even a penny in the government budgets to keep the lights on, until they complied with the law?
Congress should have bitchslapped the FCC a decade ago. Explain why you didn't.
This is literally the stupidest argument for or against any aspect of net neutrality I've ever seen. Also, thanks for trying to bring racism into the argument!
Spoken as someone who knows zero potheads.
Network operators are not content providers. The problem comes when they try to be, and use anti-competitive behavior to give themselves a business advantage.
So go ahead and do QoS. But, no, you can't give your own service a QoS boost by deprioritizing your competition for no other reason than they're your competition. That's anti-competitive, and is illegal. This falls directly afoul of the Sherman Antitrust Act and other laws, and is exactly what Congress is telling the FCC to enforce those laws against.
But now, the FCC is going to stop using its most effective tool (Title 2 classification, making the carriers behave like "dumb pipes") to enforce this, and instead use a complete refusal to enforce the law as their preferred method of "enforcement". Congress is, rightly, putting the kibosh on this because the FCC is headed on a course that simply amounts to aiding-and-abetting activity that is illegal under Sherman. If the FCC pursues this further, Ajit Pai will be fired (possibly out of a cannon) and replaced with someone who will do their goddamned job.
I am more concerned with companies like google inhibiting my ability to vent my frustration on the internet. They are the #1 visited site and have proven they are not afraid of shadow banning or manipulating search results to disenfranchise wrong speak and double ungood ideas. Two sides to the same coin, but at least right now the arguments to keep the censorship abilities of the ISPs to a minimum have some traction and have precedent to open up the markets.
Heh.
By that logic, they also hold camera, cell phone, memory card, and computer manufacturers liable for the distribution of it as well?
I think what they were getting at is Net neutrality classifies ISPs as a neutral 3rd-party that acts as a communications medium, which makes protects the ISP from whatever data traverses their network on behalf of the customer. If they roll back Net neutrality, technically these protections go away. ISPs were arguing that Net neutrality violates their free speech. The ISPs were telling the government to treat the data the same as speech. If this is the case, then illegal content is also the speech of the ISP and the ISP should be held liable. Can't have your cake and eat it to.
Either you give up your "free speech" and get protection or you get your free speech, but you are now liable for what you say.
Truth is not a troll. Read the study from Harvard, which is not a "right wing" organization. Slashdot Admins need to address this chronic shit moderation by people who despise facts found harmful to extreme leftist ideology and start promoting unbiased moderation. Read your own fucking moderation guidelines!
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
//You realize, that thanks to this evil corporations you can vent your frustration on the internet.// ... For how long?
You mean, thanks to potheads from California right?