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Google May Be In Trouble For Firing James Damore (inc.com)
Google fired engineer James Damore after he wrote a 10-page document about "Google's Ideological Echo Chamber." taustin writes from a report via Inc. about the potential legal trouble the company may face from firing the "anti-diversity" engineer: Whether Demore is right or wrong, whether one agrees with him or not, Google may have legal trouble for firing him. Employees are protected by federal law when they discuss working conditions with other employees (and this was an internal memo). His memo could be considered whistleblowing, which is also protected (and it is very clear that he was fired as retribution). And, in California, political opinions are protected in the work place as well. Just because one side is wrong doesn't mean the other side is right.
also: holding a sexist view of women in your workplace is not a political opinion. political opinion is things like your beliefs about the role of government, foreign policy, spending priorities, etc. It's things that the government is or is not doing. Being sexist is a personal opinion, and google did not fire him for having it (I'm sure there are others still working for google that agreed with him), he was fired for expressing it creating a hostile work environment for women and creating a reason for women to avoid google/tech jobs generally.
the whole premise is toxic. the whole premise of the memo is that women are less suited to have tech jobs because of inherent differences between men and women. which is a bullshit lie, but unfortunately self-fulfilling. Women used to be in the field and performing near-parity with men, then tech became a men's job. http://www.npr.org/sections/mo... If you were a woman and had to be treated as automatically less qualified because you're a woman and thought to be inherently not good at a job and saw less-qualified men being promoted above you because they are automatically treated as more qualified because men are thought to be inherently better at the job, would you be happy? Would you stick with that career or pursue it in the first place?
It's not whisteblowing (he didn't claim illegal activity really), and while you can say he was discussing working conditions, another group of people claim that it represents harassment, and the latter argument seems likely to prevail. He might have had a better chance if he didn't outright claim that women were inherently not cut out for those jobs and instead just stuck to complaining about diversity being too highly prioritized and that the culture was suppressing any criticism of that.
In general, if you write a '10 page manifesto' about anything, you are probably going to come off as a nutjob and probably won't go well for you professionally.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
Just because one side is wrong doesn't mean the other side is right.
Gotta love that unbiased, non-judgmental journalistic addition. I mean, of course Mr. Damore was in the wrong, right? How dare he internally reveal concerns for company direction... especially with wrong ideas.
By the way, all of you defending what he wrote, you're wrong too. Remember, everything is racist, everything is sexist.
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The media and regressive companies like Google love to pander to people of another color or gender.
As opposed to pandering to white males which your post seems to imply you would prefer? If you want to argue that there is a better way to help disadvantaged groups, by all means let's hear it. But to dismiss efforts to diminish the demonstrably negative impact of racism or sexism as "pandering" says more about you than it does about the problem. You are resorting to name calling which is kind of pathetic.
This guys document was well-written and scientifically based.
Well written does not equal correct. Just because we have freedom of speech does not mean that anything you say should be considered factual. And to call it "scientifically based" is to insult science. It was not a scientific paper nor was it based on scientific papers and it certainly did not use any scientific methods. This was an opinion piece which casually referenced some cherry picked "evidence". He's entitled to his opinions but don't insult our intelligence by claiming there was any scientific rigor to his rant in an attempt to justify his actions.
But the regressiveleft hates any facts that contradict their delusions, very similar to religion.
As does the political right. What exactly is your point?
In what way does a PhD from Harvard negate it being a horrible sexist mess?
Other than that, cool story bro. You should make it into a comic.
Google didn't do any of that. They fired him because he said that women are inferior engineers and dismissed the issues they face as biology. Since Google has a system where employees are involved in evaluating each other, and he was in some kind of managerial position with power over others, that made his position untenable.
Google couldn't expect other employees to accept being evaluated by him or working under him after that. It almost looks like he martyred himself, based on the precision with which he made his job unworkable.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Can't read that paper for free, but did you notice how all they claim is a correlation? Not a cause, just a correlation.
The cause is the important bit. I don't mean the testosterone, I mean why does pre-natal exposure to it cause this correlation later in life on this particular test? And can we make education and testing less a measure of pre-natal exposure to testosterone and more a measure of Java programming ability, or are the two somehow the same thing in which case is it all computer languages, or computers themselves, and what can we do about that, if anything?
At best this raises further questions. It doesn't prove what you think it proves.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
The white male who wrote this doesn't seem to have been held back in his career progression, at least until he sabotaged it.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Both are political issues, but that's irrelevant in this case. The issue is not that his views are political, it's that he created a hostile work environment and made his job, which includes evaluating other employees, impossible for him to perform as the content of the memo would be used to question every criticism and decision he made.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC