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An Image Site Is Victimizing Countless Women and Little Can Be Done (vice.com)
Allison Tierney, reporting for Vice: An international anonymous photo-sharing site where people post explicit photos without consent is playing host to the victimization of countless women. In the Canadian section of Anon-IB alone, there are currently over a hundred threads -- often organized by region, city, or calling out for nudes of a specific woman to be posted publicly. "Hamilton hoes," "Nanaimo Thread!," and "Markham wins" are some titles of Canadian threads. (Language used on the site equates the word "win" with sexually explicit photos of women.) Many major Canadian cities are represented on the site, and some threads even focus on women from specific schools. While it's a crime to share an "intimate image" of a person without their consent in Canada, sites that host this kind of activity don't necessarily fall under this. "[In terms of organizing content], is it criminal? No. Is it illegal? No," Toronto-based lawyer Jordan Donich, of Donich Law, told VICE. "It's a newer version of an older problem -- sites like these have been around for a long time." Anon-IB is not a new site; its current domain was registered to a "private person" in 2015 and ends in an ".ru." However, the site was initially up several years before 2015, going offline briefly in 2014.
does that help?
WTF dude?
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
This is an opinion piece, about outrage and victimization. How is this tech?
Why do we have this on slashdot news?
Most people aren't thought about after they're gone. "I wonder where Rob got the plutonium" is better than most get.
So called revenge-porn or posting stolen nude images is illegal in many countries. Not sure about Canada but the people doing it could be breaking the law... The problem is, with an anonymous site based in another country, how do the police stop it?
If it is illegal there then I imagine a few people will get arrested. The police will go to the people who the victims tell them have those images on their phones. Might get to test Canada's laws on forced revealing of encryption keys.
The only people who can really stop this are the AnonIB site owners. A simple database of image hashes, which they probably already have in the place to stop people posting child pornography and the like, would do a lot. Sure, it's easy to defeat, but the small effort required means most users will just move on to other things.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Indeed. It's not illegal to post nude pictures of someone (in most western countries), however at least here in Finland there exists case law which has deemed quite clearly that publishing such photos without the consent of the person in them is a violation of privacy. It doesn't matter that you agreed to be photographed, or even took and sent the pictures yourself, that does not grant the receiver the right to redistribute them.
The site is not violating the law, but the people who are posting pictures without permission are.
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" -Alfred North Whitehead
Even if people didn't take the photos themselves, there have always been people trying to point cameras at beaches or up skirts and then masturbate over them. I guess you can argue "don't wear those clothes if you don't want to risk this happening" but most people prefer a society where women don't have to wear burkas just to avoid becoming part of some internet porn site.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
There are certainly issues where I would side with you. Anything in fact where the victim did not intentionally exposed themselves to being photographed in a compromising way. The cretins who post up-skirt photos, I believe should be addressed.
People posing nude or taking nude selfies to send to people does not fall into the same category. Nobody should have the expectation that the recipient/holder of the photos is, or will remain, altruistic and friendly. While nobody gets married intending to get a divorce (or so statically small it's the same thing), we all know and understand that there is a risk of divorce after marriage. Quite a high risk for that matter.
I know this is all common sense and foreign to people, but relationships are emotional by definition. Good or bad, it's still emotional.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
I'm probably crazy, but I think maybe the world would be a better place if the response was, "That girl was an enthusistic partner, shame the guy turned out to be an asshole".
Most of us have sex. Most of us appreciate a willing, enthusiastic partner we feel we can trust. Why do so many look down on the woman with cum on her face instead of the dick that put it there?
Everything bad on the internet ends in ".ru", right?
There was a time when the smell of marijuana made me feel better about society. Not because of the drug itself, but that smell meant there were people out there who realized some of our rules are silly / outdated and refuse to follow them. Websites with the .ru domain are like that. They may be good bad or even illegal, but they probably have exactly what someone wanted to put up without respect to weather it's approved of in Germany or Ireland or America. In this context, "bad" is an awfully subjective concept.
a dark corner of the web YOU didn't care about because you weren't on it. The women who found themselves on it probably cared.. hence this article.
Just another second banana
Saying "Don't pose nude" doesn't blame the victims. Just stops people from becoming one.
Your way of life is basically like luring people into entrapment and secretly admiring the shame brought on them while you tell people not to think ill of the victims.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
So? Why would that kind of normal behaviour be punished by having that kind of picture made public? Oh I forgot, girls are not allowed to enjoy sex in your perverted little mind (that or you are projecting really hard).
It is fun, it's intimate and the girls were beautiful. I also delete the pictures when I'm not dating them anymore. They gave me permission to take the pictures and to look at them. They are private pictures between a boyfriend and girlfriend. It is implied that they won't be shared and that I won't look at them after we break up. Also most of the pictures are taken with my camera in my house or around my property. If they leak out it is pretty obvious that either I leaked them (or maybe the girlfriend), so I would be taking a huge risk in being sued if I do keep them and I lost them.
I do think it would help if the police did go after men who post pictures like this with malicious intent. I also think society should really grow up and stop treating sex and sexual acts like they are dirty and immoral. Hint, almost everyone is naked twice a day, most people masturbate and most people enjoy having sex for reasons other than having babies.
Not locking your doors at all is a FAR FUCKING CRY from not having a 13th lock on the door. You commit the fallacy of excluded middle.
Some measures are reasonable. There will always be some gray area but that doesn't excuse anyone from failing to take REASONABLE precautions to prevent something bad from happening.
When people do stupid things, they should feel ashamed of them, so that they learn from them, and do smart things in the future.
And this in no way mitigates the guilt of a perpetrator. The common reaction of "their lack of preparation doesn't justify the crime" is a flawed counter-argument, because it doesn't counter the argument being made. It counters a different argument (that the perp should be let go) which is NOT BEING MADE.
There are a lot of questionable posts on it but the volume of pictures of varying quality buries any pictures that a woman might not want seen. If your picture is up there, unless someone tells your friends exactly where to look, no one will find it, and if they do tell exactly where to look then they could have just as easily sent the picture.
Perhaps you should investigate the difference between Criminal and Civil actions. Lets see if we can reason through this, using money since you hinted at it.
A better analogy (IMHO) would be that you and your roommate have a jug and each of you drops money into the jug. One day you come home from work and see a note that your roommate hates you, and moved out while you were at work. You happen to notice that the jug you both put money into is no longer full, and is at roughly half.
Did your roommate commit a crime? If you related this factually: A police officer and DA would tell you no, that you could not prosecute and that there was no criminal action. You could however take them to civil court if you feel that they took more than their fair share and try to get the difference in what you feel was rightly yours versus theirs.
You voluntarily shared your money in the same pile as theirs. The outcome you got was probably not what you wanted, but without your actions the outcome would not have been possible.
Now if a person feels wronged and wants to sue the person uploading the pictures, I'm fine with that. Making a voluntary exchange criminal because someone changes their mind after the fact, not fine. We are all accountable for our actions and any repercussions that arise from our actions. The better our choices the safer and better the outcomes tend to be.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
The site is breaking the law by facilitating those people that do to their own benefit. The fruit of the poisonous tree is an apt metaphor.
From a moral point of view, is there really much difference between saying "wear skirts long enough to prevent up-skirt photography" and "cover every part of your body"?
In both cases it seems overly restrictive, insulting to men and like victim blaming.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Really?
We need to decide as a society if women are delicate snowflakes that constantly need protection and whose inviolability is paramount. In this world, we
Or, women are just PEOPLE. A picture of them is no different than say a picture of a man... you know, also a PERSON. *Nobody* in their right might would assert that a clothed picture of a man would ever be "victimizing" them. So why are women particularly vulnerable?
Even an upskirt shot with undies is simply showing a piece of her body with clothing. How is that intrinsically different than their foot with a sock, or a shoulder with a sleeve over it?
Unless, of course, you're asserting that the vagina and breast are somehow magically special and require special treatment?
You cannot insist simultaneously that women are "special" when you want them to be, but demand that they be treated "like everyone else" when you want them to be.
Well, you CAN demand it - but you're simply a hypocrite.
PS thanks for the site suggestion. Will be reviewing and doing disgusting things while doing it, because "victims" turn me on. If they were just people that didn't give a shit? Not so much.
-Styopa
I skimmed the site. It's mostly selfies.
If you don't want nude shots of you on the internet, don't send out nude shots to people you don't know and can't trust.
Oh wait, everyone today is a fucking moron and believes that they should be protected from self-interested actions by others while pursuing their own self-interested actions with impunity. Forgot about that. So all the attention whores get to send out their pics to get their attention fix, and rest assured that they got destroyed as they wished by the flaming assholes that are paying attention to them.
Everyone is a shitbird, including your parents some of the time. News at 11. So I don't feel even a little sorry for anyone on that site.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
maintaining plausible deniability - allowing everyone to pretend it wasn't happening.
+1
It was about 30 years ago when I realized that a little hypocrisy is needed for society to function well.
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Even if people didn't take the photos themselves, there have always been people trying to point cameras at beaches or up skirts and then masturbate over them.
I do consider myself a bit of a technophile but I would never masturbate over a camera.
It's sad, but true, that a huge percentage of the population would be criminals of opportunity if we made it easier. However, there are a lot of actual criminals that look specifically for those opportunities. So yes, locks keep out a lot of criminals who only commit "easy" crimes, which is actually most of them.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
But if it's man, like Hulk Hogan's sex tape, it's "journalism." And Slashdot curators don't give two shits.
Initiation of physical violence is the wrong thing. If she want to fight, she must be ready to be beaten, no matter her size. There is no "free-pass" for small girl to use violence. I made it clear in my current relationship that the first time my gf was to lay hand on me (nonconsensually) the relationship would be over. It's just like a dog, if they start to bite, like it, and get a free pass, they'll continue to misbehave and bad thing will happen.
Such a behavior is unacceptable, if she fail to control herself, she's not deemed to be anywhere around me.
There is a whole universe between "enjoying sex consensually" and "being the town whore". And yes, I do speak of experience as a polyamorous guy.
Right in other words, there's some arbitrary threshold in your mind of "too much sex". Obviously you're on the right side of it despite claiming to be a polyamorous guy. But if some woman has just a bit too much sex, you bring out the insults, presumably because you can't bear the idea of (a) someone having more sex than you and (b) that person NOT having sex with you.
Sucks to be you, bro!
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Similarly, knee-length skirts aren't an unreasonable burden to protect one's self against potential up-skirt photos.
And this, kids, is why we can't have nice things.
SJW n. One who posts facts.