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In Less Than Five Years, 45 Billion Cameras Will Be Watching Us (fastcompany.com)

An anonymous reader writes: It was a big deal for many when Apple added a second camera to the back of the iPhone 7 Plus last year. In five years, that will be considered quaint. By then, smartphones could sport 13 cameras, allowing them to capture 360-degree, 3D video; create complex augmented reality images onscreen; and mimic with digital processing the optical zoom and aperture effects of an SLR. That's one of the far-out, but near-term, predictions in a new study by LDV Capital, a VC firm that invests in visual technologies such as computer vision. It polled experts at its own portfolio companies and beyond to predict that by 2022, the total number of cameras in the world will reach about 45 billion. Jaw-dropping as that figure is, it doesn't seem so crazy when you realize that today there are already about 14 trillion cameras in the world, according to data from research firms such as Gartner. Next to phones, other camera-hungry products will include robots (including autonomous cars), security cameras, and smart home products like the new Amazon Echo Show, according to LDV. UPDATE: Story has been updated to reflect the updates made to The Fast Company article. The outreach figures are 45 billion cameras by 2022, not trillion.

85 comments

  1. I'm okay with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm okay with it as long as one of them can tell me where I left my damn car keys.

    1. Re:I'm okay with it by michelcolman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How can there be 14 trillion cameras in the world today, as the summary claims? With around 7 billion people in the world, that's 2000 cameras for every living person on earth. I think someone's math is off somewhere.

    2. Re:I'm okay with it by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      TFA claims that there are already 14 trillion cameras. That is 2000 cameras for every person on earth. That is wildly implausible. I think someone has "trillion" and "billion" confused. I can believe an average of 2.

      I think I have 10: 2 on my primary cellphone. One on my burner phone. One on my laptop. On on my external monitor. 2 in my car (dashcam + back-up camera), and 4 security cameras around my house.

    3. Re:I'm okay with it by ganv · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly. They say 72% of them are handheld, but that is 700 cameras per hand to hold them. If they meant 14 billion, that might be about right.

    4. Re:I'm okay with it by tattood · · Score: 1

      Traffic cameras, security cameras... Hell London alone probably already has a 5.9 million of them just watching the streets, and that was in 2013.

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    5. Re:I'm okay with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Replying to the first post to get a top position. Sad.

    6. Re:I'm okay with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, the next generation of humans will have 1000 pairs of eyes each ;)

    7. Re:I'm okay with it by mikael · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There are 2.5 billion smartphones in use. If each of those had two CCD sensors, that's 5 billion.
      https://www.statista.com/stati...

      245 million CCTV systems were installed in 2014. If that is a yearly estimate, then you could extrapolate over a decade.
      https://technology.ihs.com/532...

      That's another 2.5 billion.

      If you look at a sales figures of digital SLR cameras vs smartphones, digital cameras are in decline:
      https://www.dpreview.com/news/...
      That puts smartphones at 1.5 billion/year. That could be extrapolated as well.

      Possibly 14 billion, but not trillion.

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    8. Re:I'm okay with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many do you have that aren't in use anymore and how many are there watching you? Remember, for every camera you point at someone else, there are three more pointing back at you. Or was that fingers? Same difference.

    9. Re:I'm okay with it by laykon · · Score: 1

      Maybe he is using other scale. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Both scales use same words with different meanings.

    10. Re:I'm okay with it by Virtex · · Score: 1

      How can there be 14 trillion cameras in the world today, as the summary claims?

      Well, the summary did mention the number came from Gartner, so that explains quite a lot.

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    11. Re:I'm okay with it by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 2

      It was on the internet so it HAS to be true. Amirite?

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    12. Re:I'm okay with it by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Maybe he is using other scale.

      Then there are 2 million cameras per person. So... no.

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    13. Re: I'm okay with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck this. Let's start frying the things with modified handheld laser pointers.

    14. Re: I'm okay with it by linear+a · · Score: 1

      You pretty much can't miss.

    15. Re:I'm okay with it by linear+a · · Score: 1

      Gotta count the NSA gene-spliced video transmissions from all of the insects in the world (other than eyeless insects).

    16. Re:I'm okay with it by cmarkn · · Score: 1

      It probably has something to do with somebody translating from British English to American English. Incorrectly. https://en.oxforddictionaries....

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    17. Re:I'm okay with it by Trogre · · Score: 2

      Remember to add TV sets, tablets, laptops, RC toys, and cars to that, given that home spyware and reversing cameras are now standard.

      Still nowhere near 14 trillion I'm sure, but could conceivably approach... 100 billion (cue Dr Evil music).

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    18. Re:I'm okay with it by fizzer06 · · Score: 1

      Brush your teeth, comb your hair and try to look presentable.

    19. Re:I'm okay with it by Pope+Raymond+Lama · · Score: 1

      Still nowhere near 14 trillion I'm sure, but could conceivably approach... 100 billion (cue Dr Evil music).

      No - it could not. That would still be 20+ cameras for every inhabitant of the planet - and while you can have 2.5 billion camera-equiped mobile phones around, that is the only piece of electronics 60% to 70% percent of these people will get. 100 billion is still way off - laptops are counted maybe in the tens of millions, cars with cameras are still non standard in low end models in most of the World, and RC toys are a luxury item for most people - even on the developed World. 14 billion seens pretty high already, but is conceivable.

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    20. Re:I'm okay with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ok, but what about Regular London?

    21. Re:I'm okay with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's a 2017 paper from purdue that roughly agrees with your analysis. Their estimate is actually 13 billion total cameras in the world.

    22. Re:I'm okay with it by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      The population is widely claimed to be about 9 million so 5.9 million in London is approx 1/2 per person, though of course, it does depend on how you define London and whether you include commuters - it might be significantly less.

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    23. Re:I'm okay with it by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      20+ cameras per person isn't unreasonable for 1st world countries, but yeah averaged out among the population is ridiculous. Let me count the number of cameras I can think of that just my wife and I own or have access to (leaving out public cameras):

      3 phones (6 cameras)
      4 laptops (4 cameras)
      2 webcams
      Front and rear dashcam (2)
      Go pro
      Sony camera
      Old Olympus camera
      Endoscope

      So that's 18 for 2 people for 9 each. And I'm probably forgetting plenty...

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    24. Re: I'm okay with it by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Your username, one of my favorite songs.

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  2. Obligatory XKCD by nitehawk214 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Soon there will be trillions of cameras all around us.

    https://xkcd.com/605/

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    1. Re:Obligatory XKCD by jbmartin6 · · Score: 2
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    2. Re:Obligatory XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you considered that aliens, bigfoot, the yeti etc may in fact *be* a race of fuzzy blobs who can make cameras wobble uncontrollably with their minds?

  3. Video - The next weapon by geekmux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's already been proven that software today can manipulate audio and create words you've never said based on samples.

    Next-gen video manipulation will be able to put you at the scene of any crime, and we all know how valuable video evidence is in a courtroom today.

    Our legal system needs to adjust for this abuse of technology. It will not be able to in time, which will make video evidence the next weapon against innocent victims. Watch and see.

    1. Re:Video - The next weapon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure why you think our legal system will not be able to adjust in time. It would be a trivial thing for a defense attorney to discredit such a video. He could easily just make his own video of the defendant strolling along the bottom of the Marianas Trench or bro-hugging Donald Trump in the oval office. The lawyers will take care of the problem, when it becomes one. Because that's what they do.

    2. Re:Video - The next weapon by geekmux · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm not sure why you think our legal system will not be able to adjust in time. It would be a trivial thing for a defense attorney to discredit such a video. He could easily just make his own video of the defendant strolling along the bottom of the Marianas Trench or bro-hugging Donald Trump in the oval office. The lawyers will take care of the problem, when it becomes one. Because that's what they do.

      You are delusional. The average citizen today cannot afford to defend themselves against the most trivial accusations.

      And you want to assume the average citizen could afford a lawyer to spend countless hours manipulating video and creating an effective defense against those who are armed with the technical resources and budget to frame victims?

      Expensive lawyers take care of the problem. The rest lose. THAT is our legal system today, and tomorrow.

    3. Re:Video - The next weapon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Expensive lawyers take care of the problem. The rest lose. THAT is our legal system today, and tomorrow.

      Cheap AI will make justice affordable. bye bye lawyers.

    4. Re:Video - The next weapon by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Expensive lawyers take care of the problem. The rest lose. THAT is our legal system today, and tomorrow.

      Cheap AI will make justice affordable. bye bye lawyers.

      I'll spend more money on my Al, and you will lose.

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  4. Math don't work... by x0ra · · Score: 1

    44 trillions camera over 5 years is 25 millions a day. I do believe that our dear Governments want to see each one of us piss, but that would still require quite an efficiency that I highly doubt public agencies are capable of.

    1. Re:Math don't work... by geekmux · · Score: 2

      44 trillions camera over 5 years is 25 millions a day. I do believe that our dear Governments want to see each one of us piss, but that would still require quite an efficiency that I highly doubt public agencies are capable of.

      The efficiency doesn't fucking matter when the data exists. Real-time analysis becomes irrelevant.

      At any time, they can target you and extract the historical data they need. THAT is the real issue when it comes to government overreach.

    2. Re: Math don't work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I have thirty hard drives. I know a file i want is on one of them. Damned if i can find it though.

      Back on topic... 44,000,000,000,000 cameras is a lot. Obviously they are extrapolating and using the number of cameras "ever made" vs "in operation".

      That's over five hundred cameras per person, so its bullshit either way.

    3. Re:Math don't work... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      44 trillions camera over 5 years is 25 millions a day.

      Did you flunk 3rd grade math?
      You are off by a factor of a thousand.

    4. Re:Math don't work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The correct math proves his point even further. 25 BILLION A DAY. Is there even manufacturing capacity to create that many if run at full bore 24/7. I'm guessing not. That means each person currently living needs to install multiple cameras EVERY DAY FOR FIVE YEARS.

    5. Re:Math don't work... by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      He said 25 millionS, plural. He didn't say how many millions.

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    6. Re:Math don't work... by houghi · · Score: 1

      And it is not even whole numbers. It could be 0.000000004 25millions.

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  5. 44 trillion cameras... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... but can they see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?

  6. Also obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://i.imgur.com/794sIYf.jpg

  7. Typo? by ceeam · · Score: 1

    Surely they meant "billions", right? I can't imagine how it's possible that there's 2000 cameras per each person already, including babies and third-world countries.

    1. Re:Typo? by cirby · · Score: 1

      Yeah, someone screwed up. There's no way in hell there's over 2000 cameras per person right now.

    2. Re:Typo? by crunchygranola · · Score: 1

      Surely they meant "billions", right? I can't imagine how it's possible that there's 2000 cameras per each person already, including babies and third-world countries.

      The article keeps hammering on the "trillions" all the way through with no explanation at all of how you can possibly have 2000 cameras per human on Earth at this very moment.

      In light of the fact that TFA thinks having smart phones with 13 cameras is a major escalation in the world's camera count (there are currently 2.6 billion smart phones), which would add about 30 billion cameras to the planet if every phone had this feature (going from a supposed 14 billion now to 44 billion) I would have to say" "Yah, they have trillions confused with billions".

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    3. Re:Typo? by geekmux · · Score: 1

      Surely they meant "billions", right? I can't imagine how it's possible that there's 2000 cameras per each person already, including babies and third-world countries.

      Uh, would 44 billion cameras make you feel better?

      How about 44 million cameras?

      Would 4.4 million allow you to sleep at night?

      How about 440,000?

      Gee, somehow I don't feel any fucking better about privacy or security...can't imagine why...

    4. Re:Typo? by zlives · · Score: 1

      they are probably counting 2 cameras per phone and maybe saying we will have 3d cameras (x2)per mobile device... i am still shy about 1900 per person though....

    5. Re:Typo? by zlives · · Score: 1

      i hope each of us could enjoy photography and if you count 3 mobile devices with 2 cameras each... 42 billion is ok by me.

    6. Re:Typo? by geekmux · · Score: 1

      i hope each of us could enjoy photography and if you count 3 mobile devices with 2 cameras each... 42 billion is ok by me.

      Photography is not why 44 billion cameras exist. Neither is the reason popular apps are asking to control them at all times.

    7. Re:Typo? by zlives · · Score: 1

      just describing my use case and for most people that use mobile device cameras. now the abuse of the product... well that's another thing altogether.

    8. Re:Typo? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      A particular kind of photography called "the selfie" accounts for about forty percent of them alone.

      You're right on the second part though, all those apps want access for reasons other than photography.

  8. Re:Extrapolating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obligatory xkcd.

    The population is estimated to grow to roughly 8 billion by 2022, so we'd better act fast and get a bulk rate for those ~4,900 cameras that we'll each be carrying around...

    Ignorance assumes those cameras are assigned to people.

    How many cameras are operating in your city?

    How many cameras watch you every time you commute to work?

    Now you know why your assumptions are fucking wrong.

  9. Currently 2000 cameras per person now? by pr0t0 · · Score: 2

    14 trillion cameras for 7 billion people? That's 2000 cameras per man, woman, and child on the planet. That just doesn't seem to make any sense. Between current and old phones, the old web cam for the PC, and some older unused HD video recorders, I personally have about 20. Most are packed up in a box of old tech junk. Someone who had a lot may have 100 as a total guess. So where would the other 1900 come from? Most cameras set up for surveillance do so to record the activities of many.

    If we assumed there are currently 2000 cameras per person, and even that every person in the United States had 100 cameras in their possession, that would leave 613,700,000,000 cameras unaccounted for in the US. That's one camera for every 170 square feet of the nation. I don't think we're quite at that level of surveillance yet.

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  10. Still No Space Aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    44 trillion cameras and still no space aliens, Bigfoots, or Loch Ness Monsters.

    Just lots and lots of corrupt cops.

  11. Re: The Coming Massive Loss of Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't care about what the Bible has to say, but I would be okay with a 50% reduction in total population over 50 years or so.

  12. 7 trillion cameras today? Maybe in Luxembourg... by dyfet · · Score: 1

    Some may think I am only joking...

  13. And...and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my own personal flying Car. Then my own personal Jesus.

  14. Answer by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    What if I were to tell you that an event so devastating is going to occur over the next 150 years that it will kill everyone presently living upon on the earth?

    I'd say "already got it covered thanks".

    There are an estimated 6,000,000,000 people living upon the earth today... EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WILL BE DEAD IN 150 YEARS!!!

    *YodaVoice* And that... is why you fail */YodaVoice*

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  15. Double It Again With Trump Pres by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's already starting in the ultimate reality show. The more cameras the better!

    Grab 'me by the pussy!

  16. First thought: Attack Vector by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    When you say "44 trillion cameras", what comes first to mind is each of them being part of a botnet...

    Better beef up those firewalls everyone!

    As for people worrying about being seen, I see an upcoming trend where people who are bothered by that will choose to live such disgusting lives that no-one would choose to watch them.

    In a preverse twist, they will become popular celebrities, and the future foretold by Sesame Street where Oscar the Grouch was wildly liked will come to pass on a scale unheard of.

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  17. Re:The Coming Massive Loss of Life by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 0

    What if I were to tell you that an event so devastating is going to occur over the next 150 years that it will kill everyone presently living upon on the earth?

    Natural causes? Who do you know that has lived 150 years?

    An event so imminent that I can PROVE without a shadow of a doubt that it is going to happen? What would you do?

    Vote Libertarian Immortalist. They're against death and taxes.

    It is indeed true my friend. All humanity will perish over the next 150 years, 99% within the next 100 years,

    Is this just the ones that are alive today? I'm pretty sure more than 99% of them will be dead in 150 years time.

    The loss of human and animal life will be massive. This tragic natural event will be so powerful and widespread that no living creature will escape.

    Does PETA know about this? I mean dead humans are one thing, but animals? Hell no. Pamela Anderson won't stand for that.

    Howbeit, the event of which I am warning you certainly will wipe out every person alive today! It is coming! You cannot run and hide!

    Is it Ebola Tourette's zombies?

    We hear concerns in the news about SARS, AIDS, global warming, nuclear weapons, smallpox, weapons of mass destruction, overpopulation, terrorism, etc. The world is afraid of the boogie man, while the greatest enemy to our existence lurks right under our nose, like a predator just waiting for the right moment to take us out of this world.

    Yep, it's gotta be Ebola Tourette's zombies

    It is none other than DEATH itself.

    But we're gonna have Trump care soon. And most of the EU has single payer. We're all going to live for hundreds of years. I think you better worry about the Ebola Tourette's zombies. Do you have a bunker? Is it in a dependable position? What about food and ammo? You probably don't even have any napalm. How do you expect to survive without any napalm?

  18. Standard shitty clickbait title by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

    The article says there will be 44 trillion cameras, not that they will be "watching us".

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  19. Let's see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2,000 cameras watching each person on the planet. I feel bad for the poor fucker assigned to watch the ones in Rosie O'Donnell's shower.

  20. Bullshit! by ed314159 · · Score: 1

    There's no way this is true. If there were 14 trillion cameras today, that's ~2,000 per every man woman and child.

  21. Re:Extrapolating by ebcdic · · Score: 1

    Ignorance assumes those cameras are assigned to people.

    No, the article itself says that 72% of the 14 trillion cameras we supposedly now have are "handheld cameras" while only 3% are "security". That's 1,300 handheld cameras per person, and is clearly nonsense.

    A venture capital company that gets its numbers so wrong is not where I would invest my money.

  22. 44 teracameras by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    That's an entire busload of Japanese tourists.

    1. Re:44 teracameras by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fukn lol

  23. Nonsense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To be charitable, perhaps they are talking about individual camera pixels.

    There is no way there can be 44 trillion cameras. There are only 8 billion people. That would be 50,000 cameras per person. Not exactly affordable.

  24. You beat me to it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BS sensor going off wildly. I could buy -- though I still find it unlikely -- 44 *billion* cameras. But No. Fucking. Way. on 44 trillion.

  25. At $1/camera... by Slartibartfast · · Score: 1

    That's just shy of THE ENTIRE GDP FOR THE US.

    So. Not. Buying.

    Unless, of course, "cameras" is code for "leaves," a la HHGTTG.

  26. God, I'm a putz. by Slartibartfast · · Score: 1

    I got my brain thinking 14 trillion. At 44 trillion, it's roughly 2.5 times the entire US GDP.

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

  27. Re: The Coming Massive Loss of Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While I don't agree with the original post, your comment is like saying money and items are the cause of all theft.

    Bob.

  28. No, not a second camera on the back by flargleblarg · · Score: 1

    It was a big deal for many when Apple added a second camera to the back of the iPhone 7 Plus last year.

    No. Idiot.

    Apple did not add a second camera to the back of the iPhone 7 Plus. Apple added a second lens to the one camera on the back of the iPhone 7 Plus.

    The iPhone 7 Plus has two cameras, not three. The camera on the front has one lens and the camera on the back has two lenses.

  29. Still, thats not anywhere near trillions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    5.9 million cameras in London is a lot. But still, it's onely roughly equivalent of 3 billion in the world, not trillions. And London is not typical as they have more cameras than anywhere else, by far.

  30. About 6200 cameras per living person, sure thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't care how you got those numbers, but you f-cked up massively. The numbers are wrong, period.

  31. Makes Sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    14 trillion.

    Gartner.

  32. They measured in metric trillions. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They measured in metric trillions.

    Common mistake for ignorant USians to make.

    1. Re:They measured in metric trillions. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They measured in metric trillions.

      Common mistake for ignorant USians to make.

      Using billion / billiard / trillion would make the number even more outrageously off.

  33. How is this on the front page? by blibbo · · Score: 1

    It completely bipasses common sense. People that don't know what a trillion is shouldn't be writing about it. And people who do know shouldn't post this drivel on Slashdot.

  34. LDV Capital have posted a correction. by blibbo · · Score: 1

    http://www.ldv.co/insights

    LDV have updated their website with billions instead of trillions.