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Google Cancels Town Hall To Discuss Diversity In Its Ranks (nbcnews.com)

NBC News originally reported: Google employees will gather for a town hall meeting Thursday afternoon to discuss the tensions ignited by a memo circulated inside the company that claimed to explain why more women are not engineers. Town hall meetings are nothing new at Google, but this one will likely be different after the so-called "Google Manifesto" went viral over the weekend, adding fresh fuel to the debate around gender bias in Silicon Valley. Google CEO Sundar Pichai told employees in an email earlier this week that he would cut his family vacation short in order to facilitate the forum. "The past few days have been very difficult for many at the company, and we need to find a way to debate issues on which we might disagree -- while doing so in line with our Code of Conduct," he wrote. "I'd encourage each of you to make an effort over the coming days to reach out to those who might have different perspectives from your own. I will be doing the same." The town hall comes amid a report from The Guardian that as many as 60 women are considering filing a class action lawsuit against Google, alleging sexism and wage disparity.
UPDATE: NBC News now reports the event has been cancelled, with Google CEO Sundar Pichai saying "Googlers are writing in, concerned about their safety and worried they may be 'outed' publicly for asking a question in the Town Hall... we need to step back and create a better set of conditions for us to have the discussion." Instead of the company-wide format, Google will now hold several smaller forums "to gather and engage with Googlers, where people can feel comfortable to speak freely," Pichai wrote.

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  1. Count the bumper stickers by Distan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You want to measure diversity at google? Count the political bumper stickers on the cars that park there. You'll have no problem finding Hillary and Sanders stickers, but Trump stickers are rarer than hen's teeth.

    They built this absolutely toxic environment for conservatives under the cover of "diversity". Why should anyone believe they are going to do anything except continue to make conservatives feel like pariahs?

    1. Re:Count the bumper stickers by brxndxn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It really seems like these huge companies try to create a 'culture' pushed from the top where it's common knowledge that you're supposed to be a liberal. They act like somehow conservatives aren't a huge part of America. They deserve blowback for that.

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    2. Re:Count the bumper stickers by GerryGilmore · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Dude, you're "thinking" is fucked up and shows that you are obviously a hyper-partisan. I'm a Bernie fan, but in my career I've hired well over a hundred people. Never once did any political leanings come into the interview or any subsequent review. I had one guy who was an anti-tax radical (sadly, he went to jail and I had to replace him), a gay guy who was "Out" and proud of it. We all loved the guy. I hired gun owners and gun haters. NONE of that had anything to do with job performance which is the ONLY thing that any real boss cares about. If you (or Google or anyone) is hiring for PC reasons of any stripe, you should resign immediately as you are not worthy of any management role. Period.

    3. Re:Count the bumper stickers by Mr307 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I love it, 'everyone who thinks differently than me isn't intelligent'.

      You have just given a near perfect example of at least one of the main points in the memo, that its a different kind of thinking and using polarizing language such as yours is very divisive. If you were 'smarter' maybe you would be able to see that and perhaps even find some common ground. Heck maybe you are even wrong about some of your most closely held beliefs.

      Or you can just lump half the country into the 'bad' pile and continue to pretend they are all stupid because they dont think the same as you.

    4. Re:Count the bumper stickers by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Damore is strongly left-wing

      Biological essentialism is not left wing. It's what the left has been fighting against since there was a left, the idea that a person is defined by and the sum of their biology. People of colour's rights, worker's rights, women's rights, disabled rights, transgender rights, all opposed to biological essentialism.

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  2. Re:Canceled. by Tailhook · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The headline in the first link changed to:

    ...Cancels Diversity Town Hall Over Concerns for Employee Safety

    It is painfully clear these people have no concept of just how much hate they have been indulging. They've basically built a company populated with rabid malcontents that are prepared to harm or kill their cow-orkers.

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  3. Re:Purpose by sexconker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They plan on outing and executing them in the "smaller forums".

    Instead of the company-wide format, Google will now hold several smaller forums "to gather and engage with Googlers, where people can feel comfortable to speak freely," Pichai wrote.

    The goal here is to avoid having one big meeting where dissent can erupt. A bunch of smaller meetings can be more controlled, more staged, and more scripted. if one of them goes south, it won't get as much attention, Google can downplay it as a bad example, play it off as being an isolated incident, etc. while pushing the narrative and example of one of the more scripted / well-behaved sessions. They can use the dissent from any of the smaller forums to form a reactionary, damage control game plan for future sessions as well. Divide and conquer, choose your battles, fake it until you make it, etc.

  4. It's all about the farm team by GerryGilmore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Back when I went to CDI in the mid-70's, in a class of 28, there was ONE woman and zero blacks. Was it because CDI was racist/sexist? Hell, no! At the time, DG, DEC, etc., with whom I interviewed, all made me an offer and each also said "If only you were a black woman, you'd be perfect!" At that time, these companies were trying - on their own - to hire more women and minorities. Sadly, due 100% IMO to cultural factors, the pool was shallow as hell. Fast forward and more women and blacks are participating more today, but nowhere near where they need to be to make up for the decades lost. It'll all shake it out in time, but women and blacks need to get onto the damned field!

  5. Re:Purpose by lucm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The woman engineer who's paid less

    They're not paid less. This has been proven time and again. Same job title = same salary. The best the feminazis could come up with was a 3% "gap" based on a small sample of carefully massaged data.

    The whole "women make less money" is based on highly subjective artihmetic that compares gender-unbalanced careers that according to them are "the same" (e.g. firefighters and kindergarten teachers). Anything else is made up numbers.

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  6. Re:Canceled. by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if this "manifesto" will do for Google what that sexual harassment post did for Uber.

  7. Re:Canceled. by GerryGilmore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    " They've basically built a company populated with rabid malcontents that are prepared to harm or kill their cow-orkers." Jeezus Horatio Christ! How in Da Fuck(TM) did THIS piece get modded +5?!?! I know this is /., but THIS kind of mindless drivel that gets modded +5 is EXACTLY why I spend more time on ArsTechnica than here. Their level of discourse - very sadly!! - is 100X greater than here. As a six-digiter, you guys have sunk way low.

  8. Re:Purpose by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I posted an extensive list of criticisms and rebuttals to his specific arguments and sources. It was modded down as being a "troll". That's why you aren't seeing the considered responses, they are being censored and suppressed to enforce an echo chamber.

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  9. Re:Purpose by Cederic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The problem with the Red Pill and the people who interviews in it is that they don't have the solutions. They have ideologies that the film doesn't challenge, instead just letting them make their case with minimal criticism or counter points.

    Have you any idea how fucking rare it is for those cases to be heard without being shouted down, disrupted by fire alarms, disallowed due to threats of violence?

    Maybe if people would fucking acknowledge that

    men are undervalued by society and have many genuine issues

    then attention could switch to finding solutions. Right now every fucking law going through that has any gender variance in it is pro-women and anti-men. Every fucking law.

    feminism is the solution to these problems

    Feminism is a stupid term to use, it has multiple interpretations and can not be objectively defined. People identifying as feminists were the very fucking people inciting (or committing) violence on the people interviewed in The Red Pill.

    Rather than being resentful or jealous of the freedoms and rights that women have, they should be looking for the same kind of liberation from traditional male roles.

    Traditional male roles? Like dying for your country? Oh, that's right - feminists took legal action to prevent Selective Service being imposed on women.
    Like suffering domestic violence in silence? Oh, that's right, feminists shouted down the only fucking MP that asked for gender neutral domestic violence legislation during the debates in parliament last year.
    Like paying for someone else to raise children they can't even see? Oh, wait, the Government imposed legislation that incentivises women to lie about their partners in order to get the legal assistance required to retain custody, resulting in even fewer men being able to raise their own children.

    finding workable solutions that have been tried and proven

    Men are finding workable solutions too. Like refusing to have children, refusing to get married, and laughing in the face of the women asking, "Where are all the good men?"