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SpaceX Will Deliver The First Supercomputer To The ISS (hpe.com)

Slashdot reader #16,185, Esther Schindler writes: "By NASA's rules, not just any computer can go into space. Their components must be radiation hardened, especially the CPUs," reports HPE Insights. "Otherwise, they tend to fail due to the effects of ionizing radiation. The customized processors undergo years of design work and then more years of testing before they are certified for spaceflight." As a result, the ISS runs the station using two sets of three Command and Control Multiplexer DeMultiplexer computers whose processors are 20MHz Intel 80386SX CPUs, right out of 1988. "The traditional way to radiation-harden a spacecraft computer is to add redundancy to its circuits or by using insulating substrates instead of the usual semiconductor wafers on chips. That's expensive and time consuming. HPE scientists believe that simply slowing down a system in adverse conditions can avoid glitches and keep the computer running."

So, assuming the August 15 SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket launch goes well, there will be a supercomputer headed into space -- using off-the-shelf hardware. Let's see if the idea pans out. "We may discover a set of parameters with which a supercomputer can successfully run for at least a year without errors," says Dr. Mark R. Fernandez, the mission's co-principal investigator for software and SGI's HPC technology officer. "Alternately, one or more components of the system will fail, in which case we will then do the typical failure analysis on Earth. That will let us learn what to change to make the systems more reliable in the future."

The article points out that the New Horizons spacecraft that just flew past Pluto has a 12MHz Mongoose-V CPU, based on the MIPS R3000 CPU. "You may remember its much faster ancestor: the chip that took you on adventures in the original Sony PlayStation, circa 1994."

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  1. So whats with the laptops then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you look at the ISS webcam when it switches to the interior cam, there's a few laptops (one running Ubuntu) tied to the sides of the walls.

    1. Re:So whats with the laptops then? by Kyusaku+Natsume · · Score: 4, Informative

      Those laptops aren't running life support systems.

      Exactly. If the laptops freeze is a minor inconvenience. If the main computers of the ISS freeze the humans inside will freeze too.

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    2. Re:So whats with the laptops then? by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you look at the ISS webcam when it switches to the interior cam, there's a few laptops (one running Ubuntu) tied to the sides of the walls.

      The laptops don't run any essential systems directly. The 80386SX variants they're talking about control lifesystems. The laptops are for user interfaces and monitoring. There's somewhere around 80 of them on board the station, between station interfaces and payload interfaces. In 2013, a bunch of them were migrated to Linux, specifically Debian 6, according to reports. They used to run Windows NT and XP. The article is a press release written to overemphasize the hardened CPUs, which are by far the minority on board, to make this experimental launch of a pair of HP Apollo pc40s seem more impressive than it is.

      Information about the reliability of the laptops is damn hard to find. I'm guessing NASA signed some sort of agreement with IBM to prevent publication of such information. IBM had the exclusive right to fly laptops to the US side of the space station for years, and Lenovo retained that right for some time. It was only recently that they lost it and NASA selected HP to provide the newest laptops.

      Random forum posts from people involved indicate that the laptops crash with monotonous regularity. I suspect they would be a lot more stable if they had ECC RAM with aggressive scrubbing, but laptops with ECC RAM didn't exist until 2015 when Lenovo finally released a laptop with a Xeon in it. Odds are that none of the laptops on the ISS right now have ECC RAM.

      These two HP Apollo modules do have ECC RAM. They're Broadwell core Xeon CPUs with 12 DDR4 DIMM slots and up to 4 nVidia Tesla P100 boards in them. Either the linked article is crap, or the Apollo units don't have any Teslas installed, because the article says their "speed is over 1 TeraFLOP", which is pretty feeble. With 4 P100s in them, each Apollo should be able to produce ~38 single-precision TeraFLOPS. The article is very poor, but at a guess, the P100 boards are not installed for cooling reasons. As it is, they're having to include a liquid cooling cabinet for them, because air cooling doesn't behave too well in microgravity. Either that or the P100s are installed, the liquid cooling can handle them, and the article is garbage. Between the ECC RAM and underclocking the CPUs, they're hoping these machines can run long enough between crashes to be useful.

    3. Re: So whats with the laptops then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ive put a lot of hardware on ISS. Have a few systems going tomorrow on Spx12 actually so I have a bit of inside info here. I asked at a flight qualification panel about this a few years ago and was told that to date, no cots cpu hardware has experienced either an SEI or had problems due to TID. Apparently the biggest problems experienced were infant mortality on thinkpads that went up in 2010ish, but the same failures existed terrestrially so it was linked to a bad lot of HDs.

      Thus far, weve had beaglebones, raspberry pis, and a few odroids running on station for years and havent seen a single problem.

      LEO isnt really a hostile environment for silicon.

    4. Re: So whats with the laptops then? by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I asked at a flight qualification panel about this a few years ago and was told that to date, no cots cpu hardware has experienced either an SEI or had problems due to TID.

      I'm not too surprised that lattice displacement damage has been minimal. While the station has been up there for a lot of years now, the laptops in use have been rotated out quite regularly. After all, they started with Thinkpad 700 series, which were 80486s of various flavors. Routine upgrades have been sufficient to avoid total ionizing doses big enough to be noticeable.

      I'm astonished to hear that absolutely no COTS digital electronics have ever experienced crash or corruption inducing single event effects (When did they change the acronym from SEE to SEI?). I'd be willing to bet that there have been SEE/SEI crashes, but generations of craptacular Microsoft operating systems have concealed them. It's quite clear from the Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer on board that the station is getting pelted with high energy protons day in and day out, not to mention the heavier stuff that contributes significantly to the radiation exposure astronauts have to keep track of. One of those particles hitting the right transistor will most certainly change the value stored in a DRAM cell, and now that we're talking about billions of cells with a transistor each, that's a lot of targets.

      I have to ask, when you mention Beaglebones etc. being on station for years, does that involve years of uptime, or are these things being regularly rebooted? If they're being rebooted, how frequently?

  2. Re:Typical Elon by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Informative

    The part you seemed to have missed is: This is an experiment to learn whether an alternative approach to hardening can be developed. If it's successful, the benefits would be obvious.

    Experiments are the raison d'etre for the ISS... so why is this a problem?

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  3. Gamma radiation... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Whenever something inexplicable happened while testing a video game, I've always put down "gamma radiation" on the bug report. The developers hated that term but they couldn't explain why it happened either.

  4. Re:but why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At a guess it's because sending data back to earth for processing isn't great when you're a long way away - the latency between Earth and Mars, for example, can get up to about 21 minutes. If your lander has to adjust for local weather systems, or your orbital station needs to make corrections due to local changes in EM fields, or if you're just operating in an environment where you can't predict exactly what conditions you're going to find, you need to do a lot of calculations to correct.

    Of course this isn't an issue for the ISS, with a latency shorter than my ping to Google (seriously, my internet sucks). But if we're going to look at landers on Europa, exploring Ganymede etc it'll be easier if we can do some heavy computing on the fly. So test now in a controlled environment, and get it right for when we send stuff on 20 year missions.

  5. Re:Typical Elon by KiloByte · · Score: 2

    I'd instead go with a RAIA -- a horde of off-the-shelf ARMs. Within the power budget of a single 20MHz 80386 you can fit nine 2GHz SoCs. Have them vote -- there's no way every single of them gets hit by a ray within a time slice. Periodically, resync their memory (especially when the vote disagrees). A 2GHz machine can take quite an overhead while doing the work previously done by a 20MHz one...

    This assumes the 386 was alone -- it was at least doubled or tripled. So if you don't need 18x or 27x redundancy, you can do something else with the extra power.

    But let's assume you do want that 27x redundancy. It's still a two orders of magnitude speed boost, and that's assuming same speed clock-to-clock. Which is wrong, as 386 timings were downright scary. Especially in floating point, with a hundred or more clock cycles per instruction. Modern ARM on the other hand includes a vectorized FPU...

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  6. Good first step, maybe. by Brett+Buck · · Score: 2

    The approach is interesting, but putting it in the ISS is only slightly more demanding than putting it on your desk. Both remain well under the protection of the Van Allen belts. The real test is out beyond the Van Allen belts where the radiation really gets tough.

  7. Re:Typical Elon by mean+pun · · Score: 2

    Who needs radiation hardening? Just send a Proliant rack server up there and call it good! That's why we're SpaceX and they're luddites!

    Unless I've missed something and HPE has been sold to him, Elon Musk is just the owner of the company that will deliver this computer to the ISS. He did not design the experiment.

  8. Re:but why? by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why not do the heavy computing down here on the ground, where it is so much easier?

    Bandwidth. ISS has 3 megabit upstream, 10 megabit downstream. Yes, megabit, not gigabit. And that's a massive upgrade over what it had for years, which was 2400 baud. There's any number of science experiments people would like to run that would benefit from beefy local processing handling large amounts of data. So much data that neither transmitting it off station nor storing it and physically transporting it off station is currently feasible. The bandwidth isn't available or the storage is too expensive.

    That may change in the 2020s. I'd bet a pizza that SpaceX will be including upward-facing antennas in their satellites, not just Earthward-facing, in order to talk to their own rockets at high bandwidth regardless of where they are in their trajectories. Still, it's going to be quite some time before that option exists, so experiments to determine the feasibility of local processing are worth conducting.

  9. Re: Typical Elon by chihowa · · Score: 2

    Triple redundancy is what you want if you're running the operations in parallel and looking for consensus. If you're running them in series, you run them twice and only repeat if the two results don't match. The chance of two SEUs happening that disrupt the same operation in the same way, twice in a row is very unlikely.

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