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'See the Future Firefox Right Now' (cnet.com)

"Mozilla is prepping a new version of Firefox in an effort to rally in the race for browser supremacy," writes CNET's Matt Elliott, who decided to test drive a new nightly build of Firefox 57 which "promises fast speeds and a new look." An anonymous reader quotes their report: Firefox 57 has added a screenshot button in the top-right corner... It highlights different elements on a page as you mouse over them, or you can just click-and-drag the old-school way to take a screenshot of a portion of a page. Screenshots are saved within Firefox. Click the scissors button and then click the little My Shots window to open a new tab of all of your saved screenshots. From here you can download them or share them... The bookmark and Pocket buttons have been moved from the right of the URL bar to inside it, but the Page Actions button is new. Click it and you'll get a small menu to Copy URL, Email Link and Send to Device. The Page Actions menu also has bookmark and Pocket buttons, which seems redundant at first but then I realized you can remove those items from the URL bar by right-clicking them. You can't remove the new, triple-dot Page Actions button...

As with any prerelease software, Firefox Nightly 57 is meant for developers and will likely exhibit strange and unstable behavior from time to time. Also, there is no guarantee that the final release will look like what you see in the current version of Nightly. For example, I have read reports that the search box next to Firefox's URL bar may be on the chopping block. It's part of the design of the current Nightly build but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets dropped between now and November since most web users have grown accustomed to entering their search queries right in the URL bar. Just as you can with the current version of Firefox, however, you can customize which elements are displayed at the top of Firefox Nightly 57, including the search box.

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  1. So... it's Chrome then? by caseih · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So why should I use this over Chrome? It sure looks the same to me.

    As for tabs in the title bar, how does one even move the window now? There's almost no real estate left to even click on.

  2. More Important than a Screenshot Button by Kunedog · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do these work (and how well)?:

    uBlock Origin
    Classic Theme Restorer
    Tab Mix Plus
    Self Destructing Cookies
    Flash Control
    Stop Youtube AutoPlay Next
    Greasemonkey
    Session Manager
    Status-4-Evar

  3. Why isn't Mozilla shitting its collective pants? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The latest web browser market share stats show that Firefox is in a terrible position right now. The desktop versions of Firefox only have about 5% of the market. Firefox for Android has only 0.04% (yes, that's way less than even just 1%!) of the market.

    Chrome is over 50% of the market. Safari is at about 12%. UC Browser for Android is at about 9%. IE/Edge are at about 6%. So even in a best-case scenario, Firefox is now the 5th place browser.

    With the Opera family of browsers and Samsung Internet at about 4% each, Firefox could soon find itself as the 7th place browser if it keeps losing users.

    Firefox 57 is shaping up to be a disastrous release, due to the planned switch to only supporting WebExtensions extensions. This could very well cause breakage of a lot of existing extensions, some of which there are no WebExtensions-compatible equivalents of. This will likely cause many users to ditch Firefox in favor of some other browser. Some might use Pale Moon, while others will probably move to Chrome, Vivaldi, Opera, Brave or some other browser based on Blink or WebKit. So the possibility of Firefox losing a few more percentage points of market share in the near future is, I am afraid, very real.

    In any sort of a real company, anything close to this kind of market share loss would result in panic and action. Heads would have rolled long ago. The existing staff would have been shaken up, if not completely removed and replaced. At the very least, a significant and in-depth inquiry would have been performed to figure out exactly what was going on to cause the drop in market share.

    Yet I don't think we've seen any of this. It's like Mozilla is perfectly fine with Firefox's dropping market share. This is particularly strange, as Firefox is really the only product of theirs that people use. So many of their other projects have essentially been left to rot (Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, Bugzilla), or were soundly rejected by potential users right off the bat (Persona, Firefox OS, Pocket, Firefox for Android), or have been spinning their wheels endlessly accomplishing very little (Servo, Rust). It's even stranger when we realize that Firefox is likely their only source of income. So keeping Firefox's share of the market up should be their biggest concern.

    I don't know what the hell is going on at Mozilla, but it's almost as if they have no idea that they're becoming irrelevant at a very rapid pace. Or if they are aware, it's like they're not taking any sort of action to prevent Firefox from losing the rest of its users. In many ways it's like the opposite is happening; they're making changes that will only serve to annoy and drive away the few users who do continue to use Firefox.

    It's almost surreal. Given how low Firefox's market share is getting, Mozilla should be in a state of total panic right now.

  4. Re:Why isn't Mozilla shitting its collective pants by sheramil · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The latest web browser market share stats show that Firefox is in a terrible position right now.

    And that's why I use Firefox.

  5. Re:Haha really? by toonces33 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I still keep needing to kill Firefox because it has leaked too much memory and is gets too slow. In addition, I sometimes see persistent CPU usage in an otherwise idle browser. They may think they hvae solved these problems, but they persist.

  6. Re:You mean Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No it is not. FF is the only main stream browser apart from Safari that doesn't send your browsing data to its maker to sell it for money.

    Oh, you still believe that? Just a few weeks ago, people noticed that Firefox was using Google Analytics in the built in extension browser, where blockers can't stop it. "Trust us" they said, but the problem is, that's what people did. Trusted Mozilla, not Google.

    That trust is now broken. And as the saying go, breaking trust takes seconds, building it takes years.

  7. He didn't dare use the name "Rust" around here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In case you missed it, they've created a new systems programming language from scratch only to be able to do what they couldn't do with C++, i.e. developing a new rendering engine with no memory leaks.

    Why didn't you mention the name of this programming language that they've created? I'm sure you do know that its name is Rust. But I'm sure you also realize that if you had given its name, you would have been rightfully modded down.

    Slashdot isn't Hacker News, or Reddit, or Stack Overflow. We aren't naive. We see through the Rust hype. We know it's nothing special. We know it gives no advantages over modern C++, and actually has a lot of drawbacks.

    Shit, Rust has only one implementation! C++ has two mature, independent open source implementations, several other less-mature open source implementations, and multiple independent commercial implementations. We can't take Rust seriously until there is more than one implementation.

    It's also trivial to avoid memory leaks when using modern C++. Efficient, safe, well-tested, open source smart pointer implementations have been readily available for many years now. If the Firefox devs can't figure out how to use them, then switching to a totally new language they've crapped out themselves sure as hell won't help them! Rust makes C++ look simple and comprehensible.

    You also didn't mention the name of their new rendering engine. As I'm sure you're aware, its name is Servo.

    I encourage people to try Servo. It can be downloaded from here. Try the nightly. Their latest and greatest. And witness for yourself how terrible it is. If your experience is anything like mine, and I'm pretty sure it will be, you'll quickly be greeted with terribly broken page layouts, assuming Servo doesn't crash out first!

    Despite being described as "modern" on the Servo home page, I can generally get a better browsing experience from IE 3, which is probably about 20 years old now.

    Firefox's future is looking bleak enough as it is. If Rust and Servo are supposed to help Firefox, then I think we might as well start writing its obituary.