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Intel CEO Exits President Trump's Manufacturing Council (axios.com)
Ina Fried, writing for Axios: Intel said Monday that CEO Brian Krzanich was leaving President Trump's American Manufacturing Council, the latest executive to distance himself from the president following the weekend's events in Virginia. In a blog post, Krzanich said that the decline in American manufacturing remains a serious issue, but said that "politics and political agendas have sidelined the important mission of rebuilding America's manufacturing base. I resigned to call attention to the serious harm our divided political climate is causing to critical issues, including the serious need to address the decline of American manufacturing," Krzanich said in a blog post. "Politics and political agendas have sidelined the important mission of rebuilding America's manufacturing base."
Ah yes. I'm guessing the PR hit could no longer be considered worth the private venue to Trump's ear. Good to know that even the 1% are starting recalculate the cost vs profit of Trump.
(Don't get me wrong, I think it is the CEO's responsibility to take every opportunity to increase the company's chances at success, I just think they should stick to legal and "honest" means - and whispering in Trump's ear like Grima worm-tongue seems like neither of those)
He's such a racist bastard ... He condemned all hate instead of just white hate.
You'd think if anyone could understand something that overheats on a regular basis, it'd be Intel.
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Is it purely politics no. But it is a big part, the other part is being associated with the Trump Administration, who is systematically isolating much of Intel's customer base.
Business wise, staying connected with the Trump Administration has a lot of risk, with a small reward if anything.
They got in hoping to influence how business should be done, and make sure policies will protect them. However being connected to such a divisive figure is possibly be connected to a large percentage of your customers being insulted. Would hurt.
If Intel supported Trump when he has one of his rants, just to stay on his good side, they could loose a big customer base to AMD and ARM.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
More exactly, virtue signaling on a corporate level. I'm sure it'll work, too.
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No,
But the Neo-Nazi are his strongest supporters. Chanting his name like he is the second coming or something.
They are other groups that will just support him because he decided to run as a Republican
They are other groups that will do whatever their Church tells them to vote for, and the Church will change its ideals to match the party.
However, he is shown to be one of the worst presidents in history. He is fumbling in a government where he has the majority on all levels, yet we are seeing the American Checks and balance system in full force, to make sure we don't kill ourselves from him.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
The internet has spoken. Soon, 43% of this country will be labeled a Neo-Nazi.
Nah, even if you labelled every Trump voter a Neo-Nazi, as unlikely as that is, you'd barely crack 23% of Americans, because only half of eligible voters voted. However, given that there are many Americans who are not eligible voters, we need to refine that number further. There are 323.1 million Americans, but only about 248 eligible voters. Since we know Trump received exactly 62,984,825 votes, we can calculate an upper level of denouncement of approximately 19.5% of Americans based on voting behaviour.
Having said that, there are no credible claims that all Trump voters are Neo-Nazis, however it is entirely accurate to note that the Neo-Nazis love Trump. Some people may be confused by that statement but it's similar very similar to the situation with David Hasselhoff. Germans love Hasselhoff, but that doesn't mean that if you love Hasselhoff that you're German.
Alternatively, you could calculate the upper limit at 34%, which is Trump's approval rating, though that's also sketchy since people could, in theory, approve of Trump for reasons other than his courting of white supremacists. I will now let you get back to your self-pity and bemoaning about how it's so unfair that old white men only have most of the power now, instead of all of it.
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There is no such person on Trump's White House Manufacturing Council. Not even on the White House's page which still lists the people who have quit the council.
As for who's still on the council...
Resigned from council:
Elon Musk, Tesla
Ken Frazier, Merck & Co., Inc.
Kevin Plank, Under Armour
Brian Krzanich, Intel
No longer CEOs (still listed on White House web site):
Klaus Kleinfeld, Arconic
Mark Fields, Ford Motor Company
Mario Longhi, U.S. Steel
Doug Oberhelman, Caterpillar
Currently on council:
Andrew Liveris, The Dow Chemical Company
The Dow Chemical Company said Liveris would remain on the council.
Bill Brown, Harris Corporation
Michael Dell, Dell Technologies
Dell declined to say whether Michael Dell would leave the council.
John Ferriola, Nucor Corporation
Jeff Fettig, Whirlpool Corporation
Alex Gorsky, Johnson & Johnson
Greg Hayes, United Technologies Corp.
Marilynn Hewson, Lockheed Martin Corporation
Jeff Immelt, General Electric
GE said its non-executive chair Immelt will remain on the council.
Jim Kamsickas, Dana Inc.
Rich Kyle, The Timken Company
Thea Lee, AFL-CIO
Denise Morrison, Campbell Soup Company
Dennis Muilenburg, Boeing
Scott Paul, Alliance for American Manufacturing
Michael Polk, Newell Brands
Mark Sutton, International Paper
Inge Thulin, 3M
Richard Trumka, AFL-CIO
Wendell Weeks, Corning
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[...] Obama and the Democrats REFUSED TO NEGOTIATE A BUDGET for the past 8 years [...]
I guess you don't remember the budget that the Senate Democrats passed in 2013.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/24/us/politics/senate-passes-3-7-trillion-budget-its-first-in-4-years.html
In a blog post, Krzanich said that the decline in American manufacturing remains a serious issue, but said that "politics and political agendas have sidelined the important mission of rebuilding America's manufacturing base. I resigned to call attention to the serious harm our divided political climate is causing to critical issues, including the serious need to address the decline of American manufacturing
Translation: "I'm too much of a coward to publicly denounce Nazis and white supremacists by name and Trump's support for them and only am resigning because of pressure from bad publicity to my company that is resulting from my slow exit from this useless advisory body."
That's a pretty poor translation because the next line of the press release says:
I think it's closer to "Trump loves praise too much to denounce the violence of his most ardent supporters, so fuck this, we're out."
"Politics and political agendas have sidelined the important mission of rebuilding America's manufacturing base."
What a load of crap. America's manufacturing base is fine and certainly doesn't require rebuilding. America has a HUGE and thriving manufacturing base. By itself it is approximately the size of the GDP of the UK and twice the size of the GDP of Russia. It could be improved but Trump isn't going to be the guy to lead that charge and anyone who didn't realize that in the first 100 days of his administration is an idiot. Improving manufacturing in the US will require careful planning, good policy, and sensible strategy. We aren't going to get any of those as long as Trump sits in the oval office.
I think you're saying the same thing as Krzanich, he just took longer to reach the same conclusion.
Fanatically anti-fanatical
But the Neo-Nazi are his strongest supporters. Chanting his name like he is the second coming or something.
They are other groups that will just support him because he decided to run as a Republican
They are other groups that will do whatever their Church tells them to vote for, and the Church will change its ideals to match the party.
Nazi supporters ARE Nazis.
It's not an issue of ownership or genetics or of social status. It's an ideological issue.
They don't have to quack like Nazis (though they do) or goosestep like Nazis (though some clearly do that as well) - simply thinking like a Nazi makes one a Nazi.
Ideology dictates behavior. Not the other way around.
The only thing is that most of them were HIDING their beliefs until now.
Not cause they thought that it's wrong to be a Nazi - but cause they knew that it wasn't popular.
Now, when it is clearly "in" to be a Nazi again, they are crawling out from under their beds, swastikas and all.
And there's no labeling going on.
A KKK-er is not labeled a racist by stepping out into the light and uncovering his face.
That's unmasking.
And nobody's making them do that. They are unmasking themselves all on their own.
Cause they feel like the time for hiding has past.
They might be a tad off there.
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He can't even give a speech to the Boy Scouts without acting like a bloviating halfwit. But fumbling calling out Neo-Nazis? Really? That's got to be the easiest thing a president could do. Wag your finger, say "Shame shame shame!" That's what's expected of you.
I have no ideas whether the rumors are true that Bannon was the one who cautioned against speaking too strongly against the white supremacists, but the rumors that Bannon's time at the White House is coming to an end would certainly mesh well. But it comes too late for this.
I don't know whether Donald Trump is actually a racist or not, but one thing is certain, he lacks any real judgment, and relies on his advisers and proxies, some of which are clearly both malignant and naive.
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Absolutely. My great-uncle was picking shrapnel out of his body for a couple of years after shooting up Nazis in France. Why suddenly is wanting to fuck over Nazis suddenly a bad thing?
Christ, in the 30s and 40s Woody Guthrie had "This Machine Kills Fascists" scrawled on his guitars. I can only imagine the Alt-right outrage at that now.
At what point was society required to show deference to a pack of white supremacists and fascists? Where did this transformation come from? How did we get from D-Day and the Civil Rights movement to bowing down to the sacred right of Nazis to preach hate? Sure, they have the right, but goddamnit, our grandfathers or great-grandfathers (depending on your age) stuck their fucking necks out, went to Europe, Africa and Asia to fight Fascists, so fucking hell, having a counterprotest and maybe even a few punches thrown at these goons is more than they deserve, and better than they got when we marching troops and tanks into their ideological progenitors' cities and bombing the living fuck out of them.
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Well, if there's one positive attribute of the Trump presidency, it's that Congress is going to pull back a whole lot of powers that it deferred to the Presidency over the last seventy years or so. Ringfencing Russia sanctions are only the beginning. I'll wager there's probably drafts of bills to prevent him from buggering up trade agreements, ringfence the FBI and a whole host of other initiatives that will come down the pike. The US Government is kind of like the Internet, it routes around damage, and while Trump can still do a lot of it, a good deal of the modern Presidential powers aren't in fact constitutional, but statutory.
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It's too late for the Republicans. Have you seen the new budget? Everyone is pissed off. Social Security's 2016 report says the Trust is insolvent by 2034 (last page); the new 2018 budget reduces tax funding flowing into Social Security. The AARP, anyone who follows NASI, and even many of our current-generation are quite unhappy about this, and ... well, there goes your voter sentiment.
America's aging population and you fucked around with retirement. I get a pass on that because I'm making it more-stable to ensure people get what we promised; you cut benefits, reduce funding, and jeopardize the entire system, you only get roasted. Old people don't have a lot of shit to deal with anymore; you touch their last source of survival, they don't forget for a long time. Medicare and social security will be your downfall if you intend to cut benefits.
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'Organized far-right extremism'.
Based off of WHAT?? A few ASSHOLES that shit-post? Where are the well organized right wing militias? WHERE? NAME ONE SITUATION, where an ORGANIZED group of ANY right wing assholes did anything of note that wasn't WORSE than leftist did.
Son we have at LEAST 412 MILLION individually owned guns in the US. But yet we DON'T have organized right wing violence. Because there would not BE any left wing a-holes in the nation left, outside of the major cities. If this was a problem, YOU WOULD FUCKING WELL KNOW ABOUT IT ALREADY.
Trump got elected and the actual Nazis are publicly marching again.
You're 35. You don't know what a Nazi march looks like. If your grandparents are alive and old enough, ask them.
All I see is ugly, angry, and powerless rabble bitching at eachother and hating eachother. Just as the 1% wants them to. Bread and circuses? Fuck that, make them be their own circus.
Last week, there were protests in Charlottesville, VA that had been organized by a member of the self-described "alt-right". These protests were loosely associated with a planned removal of a confederate statue from a local park, though it would be fair to say that their overall message was broader than that. A majority of the named groups involved were associated with white supremacist or white nationalist views. Also taking part in these protests were a number of people identifying a Nazis and displaying Nazi symbols. The Nazis, in case you don't recall, were a political party that ran Germany during World War II, were avowed enemies of the United States, and were formally abolished in 1945 after the defeat of Germany in that war. It is doubtful that any of the protesters had any actual connection to the Nazi party, and their motivations for associating themselves with a defunct organization that had been until its destruction a grave enemy of the United States are unclear.
The rally was scheduled to begin at noon on the 12th, at the same time counter-protest activities were also scheduled to occur in another location. However, at the rally site violence began to erupt, and with the deteriorating situation the Virginia state police cleared the area where the rally was to take place, and some of the rally participants moved to another location to continue the rally. This is the part you seem to have some awareness of.
The important part, that you seem to be missing, is that later in the day an individual who had taken part in the original rally drove a car into a crowd of counterprotesters, mimicking attacks that have been carried out earlier this year by Islamic terrorists in Europe. There are numerous videos of this incident, which in all aspects seem to show malicious intent. One person was killed, and a number wounded. The driver was taken into custody, and has since been documented as having a long history of idolization of the Nazi party. It is relatively obvious, barring extraordinary evidence to the contrary, that this was an act of politically motivated terrorism.
Which brings us to President Trump. In previous incidents, much scrutiny has been brought to bear on the way presidents address terrorist attacks. President Obama was pilloried for failing to refer to terror attacks by Islamic militants as "radical Islamic terrorism", as many quite rightly saw this as an attempt to disconnect Islam from the incidents and avoid offending Muslim supporters and allies. President Trump took a similar position, refusing to name the ideology associated with the terrorist perpetrator, and many have wondered if he might be in a similar fashion hoping to not offend allies, and thus raising the question of who these allies are. Also in doing so he made an equivalence between the violent but mutual fights of earlier in the day, and the asymmetric, unprovoked attack with the vehicle.
So there you have it. People are upset at Trump because in the face of an obvious, terrorist attack by a person sympathetic to the enemies of America, he chose to give a mealy-mouthed response that avoided assigning any blame or reaffirming any of the shared cultural values of the United States, a response that flies in the face of his reputation as a person who is not afraid to tell it like it is.
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He didn't say "apologize" - he said "condemn".
But nice attempt at erecting a straw man.
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He'd probably fit somewhere in the moderate wing of the NDP. The NDP does have its own further left fringe, moreso in the past than now, but these days they've been trying to rebrand themselves as social democrats, much as Labour is trying to do in the UK.
Honestly, these accusations that Democrats (in the US), NDP (in Canada) and Labour (in the UK) as being neo-Marxist types is just absurd, either shouted by idiots or by people who are trying to create some sort of false association.
If Sanders was PM of, say, Denmark, he'd pretty much be in the political center. But in the US, because just about all politicians are in fact one brand of "Tory" or another, he looks far left. The US doesn't have a far left political movement of note since the Depression.
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There are some violent BLM protesters. The entire movement does not stand for doing violence. So that's the false equivalence.
Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists on the other hand are inherently violent groups. It isn't just a matter of a few errant members, it's that their entire worldview is fundamentally antisocial.
And I'll repeat, I'm not talking about revoking permits or using any state power to limit their right to free speech. They have as much right to the commons as anyone else, providing they remain within the bounds of the law. What I'm saying is that these attempts by certain conservative elements to whitewash what these white supremacist groups really are needs to stop, and that needs to start with the President of the United States not grouping Neo-Nazis in with groups like BLM and Antifa. I don't support what every BLM and Antifa supporter does, but in general I support the notion that African-Americans be treated fairly and without bias, and that Fascists be challenged at every turn.
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White supremest and other alt-right groups have killed far more people since 9/11 than any other group, including jihadists. Hell, the FBI just blocked another Oklahoma city bombing by a white supremest. BLM pales by comparison and for the most part, BLM has been peaceful and at its core, the group espouses peaceful demonstrations. The second deadliest terror attack in this country was carried out by white supremest in Oklahoma City. Then there are the 9 people killed in a Charleston church, or the six people killed at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin.
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FBI and DHS Warned of Growing Threat From White Supremacists Months Ago
The FBI and the Department of Homeland Security in May warned that white supremacist groups had already carried out more attacks than any other domestic extremist group over the past 16 years and were likely to carry out more attacks over the next year, according to an intelligence bulletin obtained by Foreign Policy.
Even as President Donald Trump continues to resist calling out white supremacists for violence, federal law enforcement has made clear that it sees these types of domestic extremists as a severe threat. The report, dated May 10, says the FBI and DHS believe that members of the white supremacist movement “likely will continue to pose a threat of lethal violence over the next year.”
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There's a difference between blaming Muslims and blaming Nazis. There are hundreds of millions of halfway reasonable Muslims. It's a religion people are born into. Many of them hate others for being others, but not nearly all. There are no halfway reasonable Nazis. It isn't a religion, it's a radical political movement, much like some Muslim ones. They hate others for being others (or they wouldn't be Nazis).
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