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Ukraine Hacker Cooperating With FBI In Russia Probe, Says Report (thehill.com)
schwit1 shares a report from The Hill: A hacker in Ukraine who goes by the online alias "Profexer" is cooperating with the FBI in its investigation of Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election, The New York Times is reporting. Profexer, whose real identity is unknown, wrote and sold malware on the dark web. The intelligence community publicly identified code he had written as a tool used in the hacking of the Democratic National Committee ahead of last year's presidential election. The hacker's activity on the web came to a halt shortly after the malware was identified. The New York Times, citing Ukrainian police, reported Wednesday that the individual turned himself into the FBI earlier this year and became a witness for the bureau in its investigation. FBI investigators are probing Russian interference efforts and whether there was coordination between associates of President Trump's campaign and Moscow. Special counsel Robert Mueller is heading the investigation.
Like a Ukrainian hacker is going to turn himself in... without direction from the Communist Party.... To cause havoc in our political system.
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durrrpp... Nazis? There's nothing wrong with Nazis..
Nazis just love Robert E Lee, because he is a traitor just like Donald Trump.
There are good neo-Nazis who just want to walk around with torches screaming anti-semitic slurs and threatening violence. They are very fine people. Just like Robert E Lee, a very fine traitor.
Durrppp I'm such a trashy wannabee Nazi that I support traitors like Donald Trump and Robert E Lee.
Donald Trump colluded....
By committing what crime(s)?
I've never had anybody actually explain what crime was committed by Trump or his Campaign here. I've heard a lot of people claiming that there was a crime or multiple crimes, but nobody can point to any actual laws that they think where broken,. I dare you, come up with an actual law that got broken by Trump or his Campaign related to the Russians... I'm starting to think there isn't anything. And while you are at it, what crimes did the Russians commit that had any affect on the election?
Donald Trump continues to obstruct investigations into Russia's election hacking and refuses to protect our country against Russian attacks.
How on earth is he doing this? Firing Comey? Asking him to let Flynn go? Is that all you got or is there more? You do realize that neither of these things had any affect on your supposed investigations. You also heard that Comey admitted that Trump wasn't under investigation before h was let go, under oath, after his departure, before congress. There is no obstruction here.
Donald Trump's behavior is the literal definition of treason.
Only in your contrived "Trumped up" accusations of criminal activity by Trump would this be Treason. EVEN IF he did what you claim, you are claiming that what he did meets the Constitutional definition of Treason? LOL.. I think you are nuts..
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> I've never had anybody actually explain what crime was committed by Trump or his Campaign here
One aspect: Accepting material help from foreigners in a political campaign. The foreigner was an agent of a semi-hostile foreign government, and promised the help through criminally obtained materials. In return the foreign power wanted influence on US policy ("adoptions" is code for Magnitsky Act which are actually powerful economic sanctions targeted at oligarchs and the means of corrupt control in Russia). (If the person were domestic, it would be already bribery).
We don't know what is in the intelligence intercepts, but it appears to be enough to convince judges to agree to search warrants various times.
Before the election
Dec. 10, 2015
Lt. Gen Michael Flynn is part of a panel discussion in Moscow for the 10th anniversary of government-backed Russia Today, for which he receives payment (The Washington Post, Aug. 15, 2016). Officials notice an increase in communication between Flynn and the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergey Kislyak, following the Russia Today event (CNN, May 19, 2017).
Late 2015
British intelligence agencies detect suspicious interactions between Russia and Trump aides that they pass on to American intelligence agencies (The Guardian, April 13, 2017).
March 19, 2016
Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta is sent an email that encourages him to change his email password, likely precipitating the hack of his account (CBS News, Oct. 28, 2016).
March 21
During an interview with The Post, Trump lists Carter Page as part of his foreign policy team. Page had been recommended by a son-in-law of President Richard Nixon, New York Republican Party Chairman Ed Cox (WP, March 21, 2016).
March 28
Political veteran Paul Manafort is hired to help the Trump campaign manage the delegate process for the Republican National Convention. He is recommended by Trump confidante Roger Stone (New York Times, March 28, 2016). Before joining the campaign, Manafort lobbied on behalf of Oleg Deripaska, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin. That deal followed a memo from Manafort in which he offered a plan that could "greatly benefit the Putin Government." His relationship with Deripaska ended in 2009 (Associated Press, March 22, 2017). Manafort also worked on behalf of the Russia-friendly Party of Regions in Ukraine, helping guide the party's leader, Viktor Yanukovych, to the country's presidency. Yanukovych would later be ousted. (WP, Aug. 19, 2016)
April 27
Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) may have met with Kislyak at a reception at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington before a foreign-policy speech given by Trump (CNN, May 31, 2017).
June
At a closed-door meeting of foreign policy experts and the prime minister of India, Page praises Putin effusively (WP, Aug. 5, 2016).
June 9
Donald Trump, Jr., Manafort and son-in-law Jared Kushner meet at Trump Tower with a Kremlin-connected attorney named Natalia Veselnitskaya. Veselnitskaya's efforts to reverse a law passed in 2012 sanctioning Russians suspected of human rights violations at some point drew the attention of the FBI. The meeting was not initially reported to the government by Kushner as required when he took a position with the administration (Times, July 8, 2017). After the meeting was originally reported, Trump, Jr. admitted that the pretext for the conversation was that he believed Veselnitskaya to have information incriminating Hillary Clinton (Times, July 9, 2017).
June 15
A hacker calling himself "Guccifer 2.0" releases the Democratic National Committee's research file on Donald Trump (Gawker, June 15, 2016). News reports already link the stolen data to Russian hackers (WP, June 14, 2016).
July
At some point this month, the FBI begins investigating possible links between the Russian government and Trump's campaign (Wired, March 20, 2017).
July 7
Page travels to Moscow to give a lecture (NYT, April 19, 2017). The Trump campaign approved the trip (USA Today, March 7, 2017). This trip was likely the catalyst for the FBI's request for a secret surveillance warrant to track Pageâs communications (WP, May 25, 2017).
July 11 or 12
Trump campaign staffers intervene with the committee developing the Republican Party's national security platform to remove language call arming Ukraine against Russian aggression. (July 18, 2016).
July 18
At an event hosted by the Heritage Foundation as part of the Republican National Convention, Sessions and Kislyak have a brief conversation (WP, March 2, 2017).
Flynn delivers a speech at the Republican convention, joining in the crowd's "Lock her up!" chant. "If I, a guy who knows this business, if I
I like how the argument has shifted from "There's no evidence of collusion" to "Collusion isn't technically a crime". They will find enough for impeachment - don't kid yourself.
Ok.. So which law is this? If you find one, there are a couple of other campaigns which may have some legal issues too.
I ask for the actual law because it is important that we know exactly what the imagined crime here is. Given your wording, I don't suppose that talking to a Russian would be enough for it to be a crime, but I'd like to see the law you think got broken so we can argue specifics.
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As I replied to your original post but you're still asking questions I'll link it here as well:
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/...
Section e Paragraph a
Quoted above but the basics are that it's illegal to solicit, offer, or accept anything of value by a foreign national to help an election.
So there's the law.
It's also been cited in previous court cases in case you're wondering. And the judges summarized it pretty well in those cases as well. Just look online.
http://www.politico.com/static...
is a good example of a 2002 case.
) Human Kind Vs Human Creation
) It'd be interesting to see how many humans would survive to serve us.
US code 441 e
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/...
441e. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals (a) Prohibition
It shall be unlawful for—
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly,
to make—
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value,
or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution
or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering
communication (within the meaning of section 434(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in
subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
) Human Kind Vs Human Creation
) It'd be interesting to see how many humans would survive to serve us.
This article cites some of the applicable laws: http://www.politico.com/magazi...
US code 441 e
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/...
441e. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals (a) Prohibition
It shall be unlawful forâ"
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly,
to makeâ"
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value,
or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution
or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering
communication (within the meaning of section 434(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in
subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
If there were financial records to prove this it would have been plastered on every network and all over the 'net by now and you know it.
I'm no fan of Trump. IMO he has no real and solid ideological nor political beliefs or principles, beyond those of a rich NYC real estate developer.
He may be dirty, he may not. But what's happening is not an impartial look at facts & law. In fact, the shitstorm of obvious bullshit and false accusations that are being detonated about every single thing Trump says or does, or hell, anything anyone dreams up that he maybe might do/have done will actually *HELP TRUMP GET AWAY WITH IT IF HE **IS** GUILTY*, FFS!
If he's broken the law, you're damned straight I want his ass prosecuted! Don't go fucking it up with all this bullshit, you idiots! Think beyond your nose!
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
Clinton accepted huge donations from Chinese sources during the 1996 campaign and was forced to return most of them post-campaign.
Imagine Trump firing Rosenstein for appointing a special counsel. That's a fair summation of the Clinton administration's response to this.
And you wonder why we hate Clintons - most of you probably don't even remember this shit, and this was only the nth of the sleazy Clintons had been up to.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
By that measure, multiple Democrats would be guilty also. See the "dossier" and Democratic party members who colluded with the Ukraine to dig up dirt on Paul Manafort.
Because they would have to charge people in both parties, you simply won't see it happen. On the 1 in a trillion chance they do make such a charge, it would be on a toady that actually did the handling of information and cash that would be guilty. Hillary and Donald would be free of any such charge.
Contrary to popular belief, Politicians really are not dumb. They all come from Law school and know how to play the game.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
It makes sense if you believe the trust the FBI and a Ukrainian who hates Russia over the credibility of Wikileaks. I, of course, don't. But between a desperate FBI, and a malware writer possibly looking to make a quick buck, they're a good match for one-another.
Compare the charlottesville vs barcelona. The first case, the media is trying to claim that it's "domestic terrorism." In the second case, they're claiming that it's a "van crash" while avoiding using the word terrorism as best as possible.
Om, nomnomnom...
BeauHD I think is really unhinged or he is just trolling for page clicks.
He may be dirty, he may not.
This is right up there with "there may be good people among the alt-right neo-Nazis". How many eyes do you need to close to not see that Trump is and always has been dirty? From the Trump University scam to the 1980's cancellation of permits to build Trump Casino in Sydney because of demonstrable mafia connections, there is plenty of dirt on this guy for anyone who has their eyes open to see. And why won't he release his tax returns?
Too many of my fellow Americans have lost their mind, just because Trump won. I didn't vote for him, but at least I didn't fall for this Russian BULLSHIT, which we ONLY have the word from CrowdStrike -- a "private" company the DNC and has ties to Clinton -- that "MAYBE" the RUSSIANS did it. FOR FUCK SAKE PEOPLE! The real collusion and crimes are with Clinton and the DNC. But we need to get Trump out, so let's just blame him for the DNC/Clinton's bullshit...
Jesus, read some history and read up on the current state of Ukraine. There are plenty of Putin Poodles still living in Ukraine, and get this, they are still Ukranians. Yeah, I know, it is hard to believe. Even harder to believe is that there are Republicans in the U.S. who think Putin is just their kind of guy, that bare-chested manliness does it for them.
Brian Krebs has a blog post today claiming the NYT is incorrectly attributing these claims.
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/08/blowing-the-whistle-on-bad-attribution/
The vast majority of people aren't rational in their political beliefs. They belong to a team, and whatever the team believes is what they believe. That's why Democrats were able to go from being against gay marriage and DATA to being strong advocates for gay marriage and having the military pay for transexuals to have transition surgery, all in about one generation.
30 years ago, the teams were more or less amicable. Now, it's pretty much hatred all around. People are no longer friends because one is a Republican and the other is a Democrat, people are getting divorces, and shooting each other. All because of blue team / green team bullshit. You can't believe different things from me because you have different experiences and values, it's because you are evil.
Not defending Russia here...but, you act like the US doesn't undermine every other country's elections (including Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Italy) whenever it suits us.
The vast majority of people aren't rational in their political beliefs. They belong to a team, and whatever the team believes is what they believe.
That sums up the situation very well. I wish I still had mod points.
You can't believe different things from me because you have different experiences and values, it's because you are evil.
I'd disagree with this statement. It's become more "my team believes the exact opposite of your team, and its part of my fundamental belief system" Note that both parties have planks strongly tied to religion, although one has gone much further than the other. For instance, Republicans: anti-abortion, Democrats: anti-death penalty. Rationally, you cannot be anti-abortion (sanctity of life) and pro capital punishment but the Republicans manage it, because it's against one of the Democratic planks. And they've used it liberally in campaigns when it suits them.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
Exactly.. But one has to add the following.. The democrats are using this to obstruct and delay by diminishing Trump's appeal and are hoping this translates into gains in the midterms and hopefully gives them a chance at retaking both Congress and the White House in 2020. It's politics of the scorched earth kind. They are playing a dangerous game and I think it's going to backfire.
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