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Paul Allen Finds Long-Lost World War II Cruiser, the USS Indianapolis (usni.org)

An anonymous reader quotes the US Naval Institute News: Seventy-two years after two torpedoes fired from a Japanese submarine sunk cruiser USS Indianapolis (CA-35), the ship's wreckage was found resting on the seafloor on Saturday -- more than 18,000 feet below the Pacific Ocean's surface. Paul Allen, Microsoft co-founder and billionaire philanthropist, led a search team, assisted by historians from the Naval History and Heritage Command in Washington, D.C., to accomplish what past searches had failed to do -- find Indianapolis, considered the last great naval tragedy of World War II.

"To be able to honor the brave men of the USS Indianapolis and their families through the discovery of a ship that played such a significant role in ending World War II is truly humbling," said Allen in a statement provided to US Naval Institute News on Saturday... "I hope everyone connected to this historic ship will feel some measure of closure at this discovery so long in coming"... Allen's 13-person expedition team, on the R/V Petrel is in the process of surveying the full site and will conduct a live tour of the wreckage in the next few weeks. They are complying with U.S. law and respecting the sunken ship as a war grave, taking care not to disturb the site.

Paul Allen has shared some photos from the discovery on Twitter.

The ship had delivered components for the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima just four days before it was sunk. Only 317 of its 1,197-man crew survived, making it the worst at-sea disaster in the history of the U.S. Navy.

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  1. War grave - do not disturb. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

    The ship is considered a war grave and protected by various country-specific laws. Unfortunately, "scavengers ain't got no respect."

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  2. Re:Screw the soldiers by fabriciom · · Score: 2

    If I remember correctly there have been various European countries that have done this before. Greek's Alexander, Roman empire, Spanish empire, English empire, etc. etc. etc.

  3. Re:USS Arizona was worse by Scutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So the USS Indianapolis was not the worst.

    It's not a contest.

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  4. Re:USS Arizona was worse by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 2

    I'd say the whole Pearl Harbor thing is the worst naval disaster.

  5. Re:USS Arizona was worse by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not a contest.

    But someone was wrong on the Internet!

    Anyway, TFA doesn't say it was the "worst disaster in the history of the U.S. Navy". That incorrect factoid appears to have been fabricated by whoever wrote the summary.

  6. Re:Screw the soldiers by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 2

    Hey asswipe, don't you need to go plant some flowers at Auschwitz, Srebrenica or along the Berlin Wall?

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  7. Re:USS Arizona was worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The USS Arizona was in port, whereas the USS Indianapolis was at sea (engaged in a combat mission).

  8. Re:USS Arizona was worse by Prien715 · · Score: 2

    making it the worst at-sea disaster [emphasis mine]

    The Arizona was docked at the time. The water was so shallow her superstructure was above water after she sunk.

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  9. The Best Part of Jaws... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Indianapolis monologue by Robert Shaw in "Jaws" was the best scene out of the whole movie. I was always fascinated by that story. Nice to see the story of the USS Indianapolis concluded 42 years after the movie.

  10. You can find plenty of graves in Europe by drnb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a European, I'm sick and tired of American aggression ... I would like to indicate my displeasure for American military aggression by traveling to the United States and urinating on the graves of soldiers.

    You don't have to travel to America, there are plenty of American soldiers buried on the continent of Europe. They died so that you have the right to make your childish, myopic and ill-informed "statement".

    1. Re:You can find plenty of graves in Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Russian casualties had a large part to do with the incompetence of Russian generals, generals picked for loyalty to Stalin rather than military competence.

      That is true, but only part of it. One would be the large part of it was the simple fact that the vast majority of the German army was on the eastern front, where they did their thing for years before any Americans showed up to take all the credit.

      The second large part would be the absolute ruthlessness of the Soviet generals. May I present you with the following quote from Georgy Zhukov: "If we come to a minefield, our infantry attacks exactly as it were not there."

      Russian soldiers were also able to endure and ultimately be victorious due to American supplies. Food for soldiers, high grade steel for the manufacture of T-34 tanks, aircraft for busting German armor and logistics.

      Again, true, but supplies themselves does not kill the enemy, nor do they bleed or have suffering families. Besides, it's not like the Russians didn't produce anything themselves. Allied aid probably tipped the scales, but it actually wasn't like they were completely empty-handed on their own.

      The Russian soldiers also did not fight to liberate the continent of Europe. They fought to replace one mass murdering despot with a different mass murdering despot.

      Kind of beside the point. They were there and thanks to them the Nazis were defeated, and the Allied were saved an immense amount of bleeding.

      They fought to claim a portion of eastern europe as vassal states to Russian. This includes allying with Hitler at the beginning of the war to split Poland between Germany and Russia, and to define agreed upon spheres of influence in eastern europe where Germany and Russia would have control. Russia was complicit with Germany in the start if the war, the invasion of Poland.

      I think the technical term was "buffer zone". A for the rest, regrettable but welcome to the "realpolitik" of the early 1900's. Not that different from how old school colonialism was conducted, only closer to home. N.B that the Allies did the same thing at Jalta selling off large swaths of Eastern Europe to the USSR... so get off your high horse.

      The Russian alliance with the Nazis persisted until Hitler betrayed Stalin and invaded Russia.

      True, but I fail to see how that relates to the soviet soldiers as such. They still suffered and died in droves to defeat the German army. If they had had a wiser leader, less of them would have died, but that's on him, not them.
       

      Yes the individual Russian soldier suffered greatly, both due to the Nazis and due to Stalin. While being forced into being the tools of Stalin for the above, their personal motivation were to defend their homeland and exact revenge on the Germans.

      Agreed. Not sure how that lessens their burden though, which was what the parent was talking about.

      Unlike the western allies whose soldiers also had motivations of restoring democracy to occupied nations.

      Conjecture. If I may offer a bit of my own, their motivation above every other was to get home alive, like any other soldier apart from the true fanatics. Restoring democracy was a motivation for the politicians, mostly to create a reliable counter balance to the USSR.

  11. The real enemy by fnj · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The disgusting part of this disaster was the way the US Navy persecuted Captain McVay, railroading him in a court martial with trumped-up charges shown to be nonsense by testimony of the Japanese sub captain, and finally driving McVay to suicide. He was the final victim, 24 years delayed. It took an act of Congress to force the Navy, kicking and screaming, to finally clear his record of all findings of wrongdoing, 56 years too late.

    The mismanagement of the stupidly, needlessly, and literally carelessly delayed search and rescue of survivors, as day after day drifting in the water dehydrating, starving, going mad, and being picked off by sharks, is also a huge part of the disaster. Something very similar happened at the Battle off Samar, in which hundreds of sailors from a small group of destroyers and escort carriers, after being pulverized by a huge Japanese battle fleet, were also left to drift for days, with many needless drowning and shark bite deaths.

    1. Re:The real enemy by Deadstick · · Score: 2

      Wow--after all that trolling, quibbling and backbiting, somebody shows up who reads things past the first paragraph. You must be an old fart like me.

  12. Re:Screw the soldiers by Deadstick · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're feeding a troll, people...