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Microsoft Avoids Washington State Taxes, Gives Nevada Schoolkid A Surface Laptop (seattletimes.com)

theodp writes: The Official Microsoft Blog hopes a letter from a Nevada middle schooler advising Microsoft President Brad Smith to "keep up the good work running that company" will "inspire you like it did us." Penned as part of a math teacher's assignment to write letters to the businesses that they like, Microsoft says the letter prompted Smith to visit the Nevada school to meet 7th-grader Sky Yi in person as part of the company's effort to draw attention to the importance of math and encourage students and teachers who are passionate about STEM (science, technology, engineering and math) education. In an accompanying video of the surprise meeting, Smith presents Yi with a new Surface Laptop that comes with Windows 10 S, a version of the OS that has been streamlined with schools in mind. "Not bad for a little letter," the Microsoft exec says.

Speaking of Microsoft, Nevada, and education, Bing Maps coincidentally shows the school Smith visited is just a 43-minute drive from the software giant's Reno-based Americas Operations Center. According to the Seattle Times, routing sales through the Reno software-licensing office helps Microsoft minimize its tax bills (NV doesn't tax business income) to the detriment, some say, of Washington State public schools.

Microsoft's state and local taxes will drop to just $30 million for the last year (from an average of $214 milion over the previous 14 years) according to the Seattle Times. "A Microsoft spokesman said the decline in 2017 was caused by the company's deferring taxes on some income to future years and the winding down of the company's smartphone business."

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  1. This gives me an idea! by mfh · · Score: 2

    Hey Tesla! Great work on pushing the electric car mandate forward like you have. Please continue to do awesome stuff.

    ((Crosses fingers))

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  2. Deferring taxes to future years... by MangoCats · · Score: 2

    Hell, sounds like a great strategy... I'll pay all my taxes starting in 2100, you can even accrue penalties and interest if you like, just let me continue about my business unimpeded in the meantime. I promise, I'm good for the balloon payment.

  3. Re:Thanks Odumba by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    Another way to avoid taxes is to do less, or no, business in that jurisdiction, which is what Microsoft is doing. For instance, I avoid Laotian and Sudanese taxes by doing business in California, and not Laos or Sudan. Is what wrong? If not, then how is it different from what Microsoft is doing?

    There are plenty of good reasons to criticize Microsoft, but this is just stupid. Washington has no "right", either morally or legally, to collect sales tax on something that is neither made, nor sold, nor delivered in Washington.
     

  4. Except... by xlsior · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...Windows 10 S is not "a version of the OS that has been streamlined with schools in mind", it's really "a version of the OS that is artificially restricted from installing 'normal' windows programs outside the windows app store, forcing misguided customers who didn't know any better to shell out an additional $100 after the fact to upgrade to a 'normal' version of windows that's half-way usable"

    Windows 10S is Microsoft's attempt at becoming a walled garden gatekeeper like apple, skimming 30% of the top of any application purchase. They do NOT have your best interest at heart, not even in the slightest.

  5. Re:I especially like how Bill Gates lobbies... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... for a personal income tax on everyone else in Washington State, so the rest of us can pick up the slack dropped by his former company.

    Wrong Bill Gates. It was his dad, Bill Senior, that was behind the income tax initiative.

    Even though the tax fell only on people making $200k or more, it was voted down, because voters (likely correctly) figured that, once in place, it would eventually be extended to tax many more.

  6. Surface not recommended by Consumer Reports by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

    Smith presents Yi with a new Surface Laptop

    Microsoft Surface Laptops and Tablets Not Recommended by Consumer Reports

    The four laptops losing their previous recommended status are the Microsoft Surface Laptop (128GB and 256GB versions) and Microsoft Surface Book (128GB and 512GB versions). Microsoft is relatively new to the hardware business, and this is the first year CR had enough data to estimate predicted reliability for the company’s laptops.

    Microsoft’s estimated breakage rate for its laptops and tablets was higher than most other brands’. The differences were statistically significant, which is why Microsoft doesn’t meet CR’s standards for recommended products. The surveys are conducted annually.

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  7. Not this shit again by Snotnose · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem is the tax laws, not the companies taking advantage of them. Do you claim every and all deduction you can? Guess what, companies do the same. Do you pay an accountant $300 to convert your $2400 tax bill to $1200? Guess what, this is what companies do on a much larger scale.

    The solution is streamlining the tax laws to make it clear who pays and who doesn't.

    My solution? Members of congress, the president, and congressional staffers are not allowed to use any outside tax service to figure out their taxes. No Turbotax, no tax accountants. These assholes get to do their taxes, by hand, on paper. That will simplify the tax code overnight in under a year.

    Don't even get me started on Wisconsin and Foxconn. That right there is some truly retarded bullshit.

  8. Re:Thanks Odumba by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    Microsoft benefits from infrastructure, educational opportunities, etc.. provided to it and its employees.

    Microsoft pays payroll taxes on those employees, and the employees pay sales taxes when they spend their salaries. If that isn't enough, then Washington should raise those taxes. It is absurd to expect Microsoft's customers, who mostly live elsewhere, to pay sales taxes to Washington for sales that did not occur there.