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India's Top Court Rules Privacy a Fundamental Right in Blow To Government

India's top court unanimously ruled on Thursday that individual privacy is a fundamental right, a verdict that will impact everything from the way companies handle personal data to the roll-out of the world's largest biometric ID card program. From a report: A nine-member bench of India's Supreme Court announced the ruling in a big setback for the Narendra Modi-led government, which argued that privacy was not a fundamental right protected by the constitution. The ruling comes against the backdrop of a large multi-party case against the mandatory use of national identity cards, known as Aadhaar, as an infringement of privacy. There have also been concerns over breaches of data. Critics say the ID cards link enough data to create a comprehensive profile of a person's spending habits, their friends and acquaintances, the property they own and a trove of other information. "This is a blow to the government, because the government had argued that people do not have a right to privacy," said Prashant Bhushan, a senior lawyer involved in the case.

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  1. Re:I don't get it. by maelkum · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Would you trust any government with a complete profile of your every move or transaction?

    Here, FTFY.

  2. "argued that privacy was not a fundamental right" by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Informative

    No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

    India ratified this. So what's the big deal, Modi?

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  3. Re:"Progressives" pissed off! by CaptSlaq · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a right given to you by the government. What's so difficult to understand about that?

    There are two ways to look at how a government should work for any group that is being governed:

    • Permissive: All things are restricted, and the government grants exceptions for things that are generally considered good for the governed.
    • Restrictive: All things are unrestricted, and the government restricts things that are considered bad for the governed.

    Both have problems (amusingly, it's the same problem: There winds up too much that the governed has to keep track of to ensure they don't break law), but when it comes to individual freedoms, I'm exceedingly aware of what I appreciate more.

  4. Re:"argued that privacy was not a fundamental righ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nice of the Indian Supreme Court to rule in such a correct manner, and good luck to the people in India in taking their privacy back. Now if the US Supreme Court would just do so we can be rid of a whole lot of problems here.

  5. Amazing by Nocturrne · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A court in a 3rd world country, full of people that worship cows, is able to make better decisions than the US. Really sad...

    1. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ... is able to make better decisions ...

      The judiciary of India is able to recognize that their bureaucrats (and possibly, their corporations) are untrustworthy, instead of blaming it on imaginary leftist provocateurs.

    2. Re:Amazing by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why shouldn't a 3rd world country worshiping cows make better decisions than a 3rd world country worshiping a corpse nailed onto two poles? Just because the latter has nukes? So does the former.

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    3. Re:Amazing by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      cows give milk and meat.

      what has jesus done for any of us, lately?

      personally, I pray to joe pesci. that baseball bat is amazingly effective.

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    4. Re:Amazing by nizmogtr · · Score: 2

      Indians (specifically Hindus) do not worship cows, the cow is revered, for its milk. Revered != Worship. Nevertheless it is a positive sign that India takes its democracy and its citizens' privacy seriously.

    5. Re:Amazing by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      Much of modern political philosophy, human rights, etc., have come out of India

      By the way, you better support this with some reasoning. Western civilization is generally based on and Greek and Roman heritage, especially when it comes to legal notions. Human rights were conceived in the Age of Enlightenment, or perhaps shortly before that.

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    6. Re:Amazing by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Sorry, was getting ahead of myself. You're not. But you're getting there. From over here it almost seems like the US is moving backwards in time. At the same rate other countries are struggling to shed their superstitious roots, the US is hellbent on becoming more superstitious and reliant on magic thinking and less rooted in reality. Other countries are finally starting to get a free press that can and does educate its people, while more and more people in the US seem to willfully go out of their way to avoid learning and instead do their best to only listen to what reinforces their narrative.

      I'm dead serious, you're working hard on dismantling everything that made the US great. Back in the 80s I laughed at Gibson's novels depicting a post-industrial America that fell apart, with people unfit to fend for themselves for the most part, with corporations ruling everything and everyone, allowing exactly two kinds of subjects: The worker drone and the illegal rest. But that's what this country is heading for. And, and this astounds me to no end, with people happily dancing along.

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  6. Just wondering... by hyades1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is this the first time a large, democratic government has expressly considered meta-data in a ruling?

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  7. Re:I don't get it. by msauve · · Score: 2

    "Well these can also be obtained by a breach of a front-door, should we then forbid front-doors as well?"

    Major non-sequitur. You're in control of your front door, not someone else. Make it as secure or insecure as you wish. Unlike a data breach, breaching a front door requires physical presence - come busting through and expect to get shot. A single breach of a government databank exposes millions of records, making it an attractive target. Breaching millions of front doors would be a lengthy, resource intensive process.

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  8. Re:Just sad by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Try a two-dimensional political compass if you want to see something that resembles reality more closely. "Right" and "Left" fail when you look at the fact that Stalin and Hitler were on the opposite ends of the economy spectrum (State-planned economy vs. Fascist corporatism) but resided on the same end on the liberal vs. authoritarian spectrum.

    In other words, try something like this if you really want to place people accurately. You might discover that a one dimensional "left" vs "right" scheme isn't able to actually display political reality accurately.

    Unless of course this isn't your goal.

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  9. Re:"Progressives" pissed off! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's a right given to you by the government. What's so difficult to understand about that?

    In the United States (I know we're talking primarily about India here) rights are considered to have been endowed in all people by their Creator, not the government. The government is expected to protect rights that we all have naturally. It's a subtle but important distinction.

  10. Re:"Progressives" pissed off! by jbengt · · Score: 2

    No, privacy can be respected or violated by the government, but the right to privacy is arguably one of those "unalienable rights" that.people have by nature and can't be given or taken away by the government. It might seem to be a pedantic argument, but it's an important distinction.

  11. Re:"Progressives" pissed off! by tsqr · · Score: 2

    Nope you have it backwards.

    Nope. It's the way of things. Whether you Admit it or not.

    It's the Progressives who only respect a right when it benefits them.

    Nope. The way it works is that Conservatives make claims about Progressives, expect us to ignore what they've said and done, and then mysteriously, expect us not to notice the rank hypocrisy that they possess themselves as they do what they want to do anyway.

    It is part of their false virtues. When it comes down to it, I'd respect somebody who admitted what they were doing, rather than try to cloak it in sanctimony like Conservatives do.

    Privacy is enshrined in the 4th Amendment as any US Conservative will tell you.

    The 4th amendment, according to Conservatives only limits the government in its searches, providing no other protection, but you know this since...

    We may admit that it's not as all encompassing a protected right as some would like.

    Oh good, you admit your principles, if not as earnestly as you might have.

    But it is there in our "Precious" Bill of Rights and it most certainly does exist.

    Not according to Conservative thought. It isn't there at all. They wouldn't have a problem with this kind of ID, though fortunately, their own abusive acts keep losing in court.

    I think both of you missed the point. The fact that the Constitution does not address privacy as a specific right does not mean privacy is not a right. From the 9th Amendment: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

  12. Re:Just sad by dunkelfalke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The two axis system is useful for a more precise classification of the fringe, but for current politics of most of the first world countries one axis usually is enough because that fringe is usually a tiny (albeit vocal) minority. On the two axis system that one axis would run diagonal from the not quite bottom left (where on that picture democratic socialism and anarcho-communism share their border) to the not quite top right (shared border of capitalism and fundamentalism). For USA this axis wouldn't work, though, because the whole left side is missing, but on the right side there is a much larger variety of options. Hence you can take the two dimensional political compass, remove the whole left half and you are good.

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  13. Re:Now about that rape problem they have by unixisc · · Score: 2

    On a related - or unrelated - note, the same ruling also granted people the right to sexual privacy i.e. to be LGBTQ. Now, if only they overturn the rights of men to rape their wives

  14. Re:"argued that privacy was not a fundamental righ by dryeo · · Score: 2

    It's kind of like "reasonable" in the 4th, open to interpretation. Shit, even things like the 1st are open to interpretation, you have free speech as long as we can't argue national security or as long as it doesn't hurt a child are a couple of exceptions to the rule that Congress can make no law infringing on speech.

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  15. A country of 1,000,000,000 people.. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A country of more than 1 BILLION people just had their highest court rule that people's privacy is a BASIC HUMAN RIGHT; SCOTUS, I AM LOOKING AT YOU RIGHT NOW.

    1. Re:A country of 1,000,000,000 people.. by swillden · · Score: 2

      A country of more than 1 BILLION people just had their highest court rule that people's privacy is a BASIC HUMAN RIGHT; SCOTUS, I AM LOOKING AT YOU RIGHT NOW.

      Why are you looking at SCOTUS? Look at Congress. Courts really aren't supposed to make the law, just apply it. The fact that SCOTUS has overreached in the past -- and sometimes done good things by overreaching -- doesn't mean it's not overreaching and a violation of the Constitutional separation of powers.

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    2. Re:A country of 1,000,000,000 people.. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

      I'm looking at SCOTUS because that's where the issue will inevitably lead. Big Business wants uninhibited rights to sift through our entire lives; they'd have cameras and microphones in our bedrooms if they thought they could get away with it, and make money from whatever 'information' they got there. Spook-types and LEOs would love that, too, 'for reasons of public safety' and 'for reasons of national security' and other such bullshit reasons. If/when/finally the American public wakes the hell up and sees what they've been giving away, and they start to demand it, there'll be a fight over it -- and it'll end in the SCOTUS, not Congress. Congress, if you haven't noticed, can't manage to get it's own head out of it's substantial ass. Also follow the money: they're bought-and-paid-for by corporations.

  16. Re:"Progressives" pissed off! by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    If rights are given to you by the government, slavery must be OK...

    Ah, but slavery is okay! At least in the US

    "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist..."

    That door is wide open.

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