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Facebook's 21-Year-Old Wunderkind Leaves For Google (bloomberg.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Facebook hired Michael Sayman for an internship when he was 17 years old, and gave him a full-time engineering job at 18. Now, the wunderkind is leaving for Alphabet's Google. He turned 21 last week. At Facebook, Sayman was a product manager who helped the social-media giant understand how his generation uses their phones, advising on experimental products for teens and helping executives understand trends. At Google, he'll be a product manager for Assistant, a voice-based service built on the search engine's giant database.
I mean really who the fucks cares.
He prolly the one making everything so shitty.
Did he post this story to promote himself? First I have ever heard of him. Editors, can you get this shit off the front page?
So this piece of shit is the reason I keep getting kicked off Facebook because I login from another city I fly to? This only happens on my laptop but never my phone. Then it asks for my phone number to verify my identity, and it won't accept my phone number that it fucking asked for. Sounds like this little cunt needs a beating instead of a job promotion.
You can openly comment on his post here. https://www.facebook.com/photo...
Did you submit this yourself Michael? You self-absorbed Facefuck tool?
Here's a better bio:
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Michael Sayman is a fucking a piece of shit. Nobody wants to know about him or his dorky little job, thinking up more useless garbage under the guise of innovation, while he contributes to the decline of civilization with stupid, shitty gadgets and toys.
You are fucking trash, go hide your face in a pile of wheatgrass
Cool story, bro!
Which is he? A technical wiz? A good manager? They have rather different requirements.
You can openly comment on his post here.
https://www.facebook.com/photo...
Don't do that.
Direct your attention to the slashdot editors, who are the ones responsible for this crap on the front page.
Doxxing and belittling is immature, unfair, and a favourite tactic of our home-grown capital "A" terrorist organization.
Did you want to be known as one of them?
People keep calling him a "wunderkind". He doesn't even know what that means.
3 decades of mc jobs (after being aged out of tech) unlikely as automation will kill them over the next 10-15 years. And to get that mc job you need to remove any thing higher then the AS and remove goolge and Facebook from your work history or the mc manger will view you as someone who will stop working there as soon as an better job opens up.
If you don't like working for Google, presumably you also wouldn't like working for Twitter or Facebook. So people may simply not care.
It's kind of painfully obvious that the developers working on most apps are fucking terrible at end user experience. I'm not sure a 21 year old with an extremely limited experience/perception model will understand all the use cases.
Google maps, for example, has just continually gotten worse from an end user experience level FOR THE LAST 3-4 YEARS STRAIGHT.
Google is an extremely mis-managed company. If that's not obvious to a lot of people it's because there are too many young people working there who lack long term perspective.
I know... I know... millenials want to think age doesn't matter. Guess what? It does. A lot.
If you don't like working for Google, presumably you also wouldn't like working for Twitter or Facebook.
If you worked at Google, recruiters are less likely to consider you for positions at small- or medium-sized companies. I got pigeonholed as being an enterprise-level technician because I worked at enterprise-level companies (i.e., Fujitsu, Sony, Intuit, Google, eBay, etc.). Some of those companies I've worked for on multiple contracts.
Obviously, you are overqualified.
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
Kid makes a mobile game, gets hired by FB as developer (software engineer my ass), somehow becomes a product manager and spends 2 years learning about his own demographic and creates a failed social app.
For some reason, this makes him attractive to Google and they hire him.
*ugh*
Not only is Idiocracy becoming real, so is Silicon Valley.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Was he an engineer? Or a product manager? They're not the same thing.
Remove the word talent and we can talk.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Obviously, you are overqualified.
Especially with my current government IT job with its super-sized enterprise environment. I'm almost afraid of not being able to get a regular corporate job if I don't stay with the contract after it goes up for rebidding.
Good to see silicon valley is still a big fan of the "failing upward" trend.
No doubt brought about by the same attitude as uninhibited, laissez faire venture capitalism, but for people instead of business. "He's smart, he's got to lay the golden egg eventually!"
"If he peaks at 35, he'll have 3 more decades of unfulfilling work. I'm aiming to peak at 55 so I can slide through my last decade."
He'll retire at 28, build his own rocket firm and build a space elevator.
Or he'll buy a yacht and fuck his brains out with supermodels.
He's not you..
Not all whites are white supremacists. Not all muslims are ISIS supporters.
We have many whites who strongly condemn that actions of white supremacists, and many muslims who strongly condemn terrorist acts.
Sayman was a product manager who helped the social-media giant understand how his generation uses their phones, advising on experimental products for teens and helping executives understand trends
. . . So. . . his credentials for why we would care about him is...... He's a kid? That's it? Not some sort of prodigy?
"Hired as a Software Engineer" and yet he was a "product manager". Do you have any idea how fluffy and vague that title is? Don't get me wrong, there could be a TON of serious work being done behind that title. Or there could be just ".... make the icons flat with simple colors". It's like a movie producer. What do they do? "help produce".
Lemmeseeee.... he has a wikipedia page. Woo. He's made a game that some people looked at. At facebook the product he's managing is "Lifestage" a blatantly ageist social video thing that locks out anyone over 22. Your hand is blinking. ...Facebook shut it down after a year.
He's a kid that made a game and had a failed launch on a "video social app" thing. ...So fucking what? The news is that Google hired someone without a college degree? Is he going to wear garish cloths with a big clock and try rapping? To "get down with teens"?
Now, he might be a REALLY great guy. But so far the only reason there's an article on him is because there have been articles on him.
Woah, so this is actually good news then???
If he gets the money. A product manager isn't typically given tons of options and the salary isn't necessarily the greatest. It's near the bottom of the management pecking order, and isn't a people management job usually. However, the job normally requires some actual working experience.
I have a friend who started as an intern and grew into a management and then VP position in less than a decade, on the basis if being there in the early startup days and having more knowledge of what was going on than any of the newer hires. But the lack of experience was evident, in engineering and management. Still a very bright person, just promoted 10 to 20 years too soon.
When I got my CS degree I sat in some of the same classes as my roommate who was an EE. That was in the late 80s/early 90s, so I understand things have most likely changed since then.
Is that title diluted, as you say, and over-used? Sure. Are there actual software engineers out there? Absolutely. This kid isn't one of them.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Why, exactly, is this mediocre considered to be a 'wunderkind'?
Did the idiot, who allowed this submission, even know what wunderkind means?
I must be old.
You have to schmooze with the right people. Talk to the managers, talk to the VPs. But in such a way that you seem smart and not just a kiss up. Helps if you can talk about wines.
It's like the old dotcom days. :(
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Was it this kid's mother who did it and needed to brag to her friends and relatives?
I need another long vacation from /.
this is a zero content submission
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Not all muslims are ISIS suppoerters
I'll be more ready to agree with you the next time I see the Muslim community marching in protest of Islamic terrorist attacks instead of cheering them on or staying silent.
Muslim community refuses to bury french priest killer.
It happens.
What part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand?
This really depends on what "product" you are product manager of. A product manager of key accounts can be a pretty big deal. And as you said, it puts you at the table with the sales and higher management, so you can network pretty well and climb up the corporate ladder. Much harder to do as a Software Engineer.
Why would they hire a guy from Facebook? Need more help diving for the dirt?