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Popular YouTube Artist Uses AI To Record New Album (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report from The Verge of a popular YouTube artist who is using artificial intelligence to produce a LP: If you heard Taryn Southern's new single "Break Free" on the radio, you'd probably just keep driving or grocery shopping, or doing whatever you do in places that still have radios playing. The song is a big, moody ballad -- the kind that might play during the climax of a Steven Spielberg movie. "Break Free" wasn't composed by a John Williams copycat, but by artificial intelligence. The song is not a fluke or a novelty for Southern either; she's using artificial intelligence platforms to create an entire album, called I AM AI. It's the first LP to be entirely composed and produced with AI. Southern used an open source AI platform called Amper Music to create the stems of "Break Free." For each track, she plugs in genre, the instruments she wants to use, and beats per minute. In return, Amper churns out disjointed verses that can be rearranged into a song, and layered beneath Southern's vocals. Southern told The Verge she's toying with four other AI music platforms, but she's not sure which of those will make the final album cut.

99 comments

  1. Slashdort: News for Turds, Stuff that Splatters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdort: News for Turds, Stuff that Splatters.

  2. Nice by TimothyHollins · · Score: 4, Funny

    For once it might be Beyonce and Justin Bieber worrying about their jobs getting outsourced instead of programmers and service personnel. I like this new plot twist.

    1. Re: Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People don't listen to them for their "music", it's because they want to fuck them. If they were ugly, would their music sell? No.

    2. Re: Nice by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      People don't listen to them for their "music", it's because they want to fuck them. If they were ugly, would their music sell? No.

      Justin Bieber IS ugly though!

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    3. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For once it might be Beyonce and Justin Bieber worrying about their jobs getting outsourced instead of programmers and service personnel. I like this new plot twist.

      Part of the attraction and demand of those flesh-based artists is purely sexual, as validated by the fact that every successful one has model-hot looks, wears skimpy outfits on stage, and makes porn-grade music videos in order to monetize that sexuality.

      AI sure as shit won't be replacing that anytime soon.

    4. Re: Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adele begs to differ

    5. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, except Beyonce and Bieber already pay people to use AI to produce songs for them.

      This is a sad article. "I am AI", but she didn't even write the software? It's just remixing loops that came out of a machine instead of a CD in the back of a magazine.

    6. Re: Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people like fat chicks.

    7. Re: Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like we've got a jealous, obese basement-dweller here.

    8. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only a matter of time, then, until the court battle on copyright to the portions of the music created by the AI. It will be just like Arturo the Monkey's selfie copyright court battles. Except PETA won't get involved to (mis)represent the AI.

    9. Re: Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People don't listen to them for their "music", it's because they want to fuck them. If they were ugly, would their music sell? No.

      In fact, the beautiful people who do shitty music will be the first to go. Good music is the realm of ugly people, tormented souls.

    10. Re:Nice by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

      TPain will be the first to go. Just set the genre to Hip Hop, and get the AI to read out it's lyrics with AutoTune and BAM.

    11. Re: Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if by "good" you mean the goth/grunge/wtfEVER from the 90s that pretty much killed the industry and gave rise to the disco/dance/rap/crap, then yes. Fuck the tormented souls bullshit. You see starving kids in africa selling records?

    12. Re: Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You see starving kids in africa selling records?

      No because music is not a priority in those circumstances.

    13. Re:Nice by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Except the funny thing is, T-Pain can actually sing. He just had the misfortune to latch onto an easy-to-reproduce gimmick, and in the end it killed his career.

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    14. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Requiring a headline like "Popular YouTube Artist" - means the artist isn't popular enough to use the artist name.

    15. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Part of the attraction and demand of those flesh-based artists is purely sexual, as validated by the fact that every successful one has model-hot looks, wears skimpy outfits on stage, and makes porn-grade music videos in order to monetize that sexuality.

      AI sure as shit won't be replacing that anytime soon.

      I take it you haven't seen any of the thousands of hours of Hatsune Miku music videos that are mostly pantsu shots?

    16. Re: Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gothic, disco, dance and rap music originated decades before the 90s, son.

  3. This is the future of music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All music will be produced on-the-fly by AI specifically to suit the tastes and mood of the person listening. Real-time monitoring and feedback will act as input to the AI, allowing it to modify the music to suit the situation as needed. Music produced solely by humans will still exist but will be a novelty as it will typically be much more expensive to create and procure. Social media will allow people to share their current music stream with friends and family as desired. Record labels and for-profit music cabals will go away. The entire idea of music as a hobby will experience a tremendous paradigm shift as it becomes more personalized and less commercial.

    1. Re:This is the future of music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +5 funny.

    2. Re:This is the future of music by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      All music will be produced on-the-fly by AI

      Cool; too bad we don't have AI yet. DId you mean to say machine logic?

    3. Re:This is the future of music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a load of bullshit. Let me guess, this will also be in Muskie's self-crashing, I mean... self-driving car? We'll also use Kurzweil's nanobots to upload the music directly into our neurons too, right? And it's all "just around the corner", cuz exponential.

  4. Entirely by arth1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's the first LP to be entirely composed and produced with AI. Southern used an open source AI platform called Amper Music to create the stems of "Break Free." For each track, she plugs in genre, the instruments she wants to use, and beats per minute. In return, Amper churns out disjointed verses that can be rearranged into a song, and layered beneath Southern's vocals

    That's an interesting definition of "entirely".
    I would say "partially" is a better word.

    1. Re:Entirely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's an interesting definition of "entirely".
      I would say "partially" is a better word.

      They started off OK, properly stating "uses AI", etc, but they just couldn't help themselves.

    2. Re:Entirely by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's an interesting definition of "entirely".
      I would say "partially" is a better word.

      You're correct. In fact, it's only a few steps removed from playing a Casio keyboard with the arpeggiator turned on and randomly pressing the white keys.

      I've used Amper Music and it's an interesting platform. Algorithmic and generative music certainly is interesting, but like this song, it's kind of dull.

      A more interesting application is having an AI produce a musical score which is then performed by human musicians. Gottfried Koenig does something like this in a more traditional Western Classical tradition rather than pop music. I prefer the live interaction of man and machine to the "throw a bunch of standard chord progressions into some software".

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    3. Re:Entirely by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      It's just like how "literally" now means "exponentially".

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    4. Re:Entirely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It also seems likely that whoever created Amper Music has used it to generate music. I mean the "first" at something tends to not be just some YouTube chick who used some software that someone else wrote. Possibly their other clients have also done this. It is, after all, the entire premise that Amper Music is built upon.

      But apart from those two problems ... seems accurate :p

    5. Re:Entirely by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Is that literally exponentially, or virtually exponentially?

    6. Re:Entirely by Mal-2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's an interesting definition of "entirely".
      I would say "partially" is a better word.

      I'd be inclined to agree. I'd say this is as "entirely" produced by AI to the same degree as my own work has been for years, and many others as well. It's called Band In A Box, which has been around (though not with all the features it currently has) for almost 30 years.

      I also have tracks where the entire composition was done by cgMusic, and I did all the arrangement and production, like this one, or where the computer did 80% of the composition, such as this or this.

      To musicians in my position, who create their tracks from the ground up all the way to mastering, none of this is even remotely new. We've been doing it not for years, but for decades. It wasn't called AI, and "expert system" is probably more appropriate, but it doesn't change the way it is used or the results obtained.

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  5. It's not good. But it's a lot better than rap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not a good song, in my opinion. But in terms of its sound, rhythm, melody, harmony, flow and creativity, it's a hell of a lot better than any rap or hip hop "music" I've ever heard. At least it sounds original, and isn't just a 10-second snippet of some 1970s jazz song or some successful pop song played repeatedly, with record scratching in between and gibberish lyrics.

    1. Re:It's not good. But it's a lot better than rap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool story, gramps.

  6. Ask Slashdot: What's your favorite song? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We might as well add some useful discussion to this otherwise useless thread.

    So I'll ask this question to all Slashdotters: What is your favorite song?

    I'll also start with mine. It is Matt Mulholland's rendition of the classic "O Holy Night".

    1. Re:Ask Slashdot: What's your favorite song? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mine is 'Parent is a Sissy Cuck.'

    2. Re:Ask Slashdot: What's your favorite song? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mine is "Fuck you motherfucker" by The Fuck You Motherfuckers

      Fuck you motherfucker

    3. Re:Ask Slashdot: What's your favorite song? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is your favorite song?

      Definitely this

    4. Re:Ask Slashdot: What's your favorite song? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Hmm..well, whatever this AI comes up with...has to be better than what's being put out by Taylor Swift or Beyonce.....

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    5. Re:Ask Slashdot: What's your favorite song? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  7. They'll be alright. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The AI composes the songs - not performs them. And many pop stars don't write their own songs.

    Elvis Presley had an awesome career singing other people's songs.

    1. Re:They'll be alright. by geekmux · · Score: 2

      The AI composes the songs - not performs them. And many pop stars don't write their own songs.

      Elvis Presley had an awesome career singing other people's songs.

      Unlike damn near every entertainer today, Elvis Presley didn't need Autotune.

      And the only reason they'll be "alright" is because the music standard has dropped so fucking low that we don't even call them musicians anymore; they're now entertainers. The fans will welcome these AI-writing overlords and not miss a beat.

    2. Re:They'll be alright. by src1138 · · Score: 1

      Next stop - Sharon Apple.

    3. Re:They'll be alright. by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 1

      Puhleez, if you honestly though 90% of musicians wrote their own songs you are sadly mistaken.

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      There are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third is statistics.
    4. Re:They'll be alright. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're already irrelevant as you can choose not to listen to or watch such drivel.

      Seriously, SM/bondage-artists with huge plastic dildos singing for preteen girls is our culture now?
      Not if you reject it!

    5. Re:They'll be alright. by mark-t · · Score: 2

      I think it depends if you define "musician" to be synonymous with singer.

      I would not consider a singer to be a musician *unless* they also wrote songs.

    6. Re:They'll be alright. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People today crank songs out like a paper mill and still bitch when they only get 0.001 cents per play on a streaming service.

    7. Re:They'll be alright. by geekmux · · Score: 2

      Puhleez, if you honestly though 90% of musicians wrote their own songs you are sadly mistaken.

      Music used to be written and created. It held emotion and power.

      Today, pop music is manufactured predictable shit. It's all based on a market-validated recipe of some brainless hottie laying oversexualizing Autotuned vocals on top of revenue-generating beats. The shift to letting AI create "music" only validates how truly easy it is to manufacture shit for the masses.

      As I said before, the music standard has dropped lower than a dubstep track.

    8. Re:They'll be alright. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would not consider a singer to be a musician *unless* they also wrote songs.

      So Luciano Pavarotti, not a musician then?

    9. Re:They'll be alright. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back in the 1950s and 60s a lot of recorded pop music included errors, including poor timing, that would not be considered acceptable today, so it's not clear that music or musicianship is any worse now than it was. You might have an argument that perhaps there is less originality, but even in the 1960s there was a lot of plundering of blues and folk for inspiration and more. I tend to prefer music from then, though.

    10. Re:They'll be alright. by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1, Troll

      Seriously, SM/bondage-artists with huge plastic dildos singing for preteen girls is our culture now?

      You mean like the lead singer for Rammstein who has a dildo on the end of his mic? Or did you mean the spiked dog collar he wears? The medical procedure he underwent to have a light temporarily put in his mouth?

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    11. Re:They'll be alright. by mark-t · · Score: 1

      I cannot claim to know... I know that he sang, but did he ever compose or write music? If so, then yes, but if not, then no.

    12. Re:They'll be alright. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The shift to letting AI create "music" only validates how truly easy it is to manufacture shit for the masses.

      Is it? From the TOS for their Beta:

        Actively use and evaluate the product or service being tested
        Provide the types of feedback requested and respond to questions
        Give Amper Music all rights to any feedback you submit
        Not disclose that you are participating in this test
        Not show the materials to others, unless otherwise permitted by Amper Music
        Not share copies, pictures, or videos of the test materials in any form, unless otherwise permitted by Amper Music
        Return the test materials if requested

      Thank you. We look forward to your participation.

    13. Re:They'll be alright. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      I think it depends if you define "musician" to be synonymous with singer.

      Synonymous? Well, no I don't. Singers are musicians, but musicians are not necessarily singers.

      I would not consider a singer to be a musician *unless* they also wrote songs.

      Well then you dismiss the overwhelming number of musicians (including singers) who do not compose their own music, but instead dedicate their careers to performing the music of others.

      Singers are singers, pianists are pianists, drummers are drummers, guitarists are guitarists, composers are composers. But collectively, they're musicians.

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    14. Re: They'll be alright. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Collectively my ass, individually they are all musicians.

    15. Re: They'll be alright. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      When I said "collectively they're musicians" I thought it was clear that I meant:

      - singers are musicians
      - pianists are musicians
      - drummers are musicians
      - guitarists are musicians
      - composers are musicians
      - etc.

      I apologize if I caused any confusion.

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    16. Re:They'll be alright. by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 1

      Valid point, some "singers" can't even play an instrument, heck without AutoTune half of them can't sing.

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      There are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third is statistics.
  8. Entirely = Partially by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So it only produces the underlying music and not in any particular order? Considering a human is still writing the lyrics and arranging the music that's a long way from "entirely".

  9. Algorithmic Interface ? by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

    The classic definition of AI to me always meant self learning and possibly even self aware. It's funny how terms change over time once it becomes a popular buzzword.

    1. Re:Algorithmic Interface ? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Actually both terms never really were part of the definition :)
      Self learning in AI is e.g. just a small subset, albeit one that made strong improvements the last decade.

      On the other hand in SF or movies AI is often set equal to self aware. However I doubt the computer in Star Trek is selfaware.

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    2. Re:Algorithmic Interface ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's obviously a deep learning system that has learned to write tunes based on listening to lots of existing tunes.

      That's what deep learning does. If learning to play chess like this creates a "chess-playing AI" then learning to write tunes like this creates a "tune-writing AI".

      The classic definition of AI never included self-learning, and we don't even know what self-awareness is. So I guess it's funny how people ignore definitions and put their own spin onto terms and then complain that the meaning of the term has "changed" from how they understood it.

    3. Re:Algorithmic Interface ? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Whenever I see "A.I." in an article I read it as "Advanced Ignoramus".

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    4. Re:Algorithmic Interface ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self-learning has always been part of generalized AI. It's more like consciousness and self-awareness is traditionally weakly defined, without even evidence it may be beneficial in an economic sense (the only sense we understand in these Dark Ages).

      ML for all it's shortcomings, are actually producing real practical results. However, the hype-curve ensures that we overvalue its usefulness, and of human lives in general, or life itself for that matter.

    5. Re:Algorithmic Interface ? by Migraineman · · Score: 1

      When AI becomes sentient, will music get its soul back?

  10. Obig Orwell by seven+of+five · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Here were produced rubbishy newspapers containing almost nothing except sport, crime and astrology, sensational five-cent novelettes, films oozing with sex, and sentimental songs which were composed entirely by mechanical means on a special kind of kaleidoscope known as a versificator. "

    1. Re:Obig Orwell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Listen to that... How can she make a song written by a machine sound so beautiful?" - Winston Smith

    2. Re:Obig Orwell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The human soul will find its own meaning, even in randomness.
      If there's no soul, life is without value.

    3. Re:Obig Orwell by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately life has no value

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    4. Re:Obig Orwell by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      'seven of five'

      ..tertiary adjunct to Unimatrix sqrt(-1)?

  11. LP???? by OzPeter · · Score: 2

    In what world does a music download equate to an LP??

    Yeah get off my lawn.

    OTOH This will be the Autotune of the future. I can't say that I am inspired by that song (seemed pretty generic and soulless to me) but I am sure I will be surprised someday soon.

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  12. Copyright all possible variations of "music" by bad-badtz-maru · · Score: 1

    They should just run the Amper algorithm nonstop, generating every possible chord and note permutation likely to appear in commercial music. Then they can sit back and sue any future hit artists for copyright infringement

    1. Re:Copyright all possible variations of "music" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone tried this (not seriously, but as a protest of copyright) 10+ years ago and with the website you could look up every permutation of a few notes.
      It was pretty corny.

    2. Re:Copyright all possible variations of "music" by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 2

      There should be an easier way.

      Music is encoded at 44khz * 24-bit samples. That's about 1Mbits per second of audio.

      Why not just run through all the permutations of possible 1s and 0s and copyright that? You'd literally have every possible 1-second sound that could exist.

      Now, as to the computational power you'd need, well, there's the rub.

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  13. Yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a fad, like QR codes. It's also a pretty bland song in my opinion, so are the others. Without the aspect of novelty, I wouldn't have taken a second look at this person's stuff. Whatever.

  14. I AM Radio... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    I was looking at a table top radio at a store recently where it had FM but no AM. How can you have a radio without the AM band?

    1. Re:I AM Radio... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      By cutting into the BOM.

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  15. 2112 by Sindar+By+Choice · · Score: 0

    The lyrics to 2112 become more relevant by the day.

  16. oh great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and we thought auto-tune was bad.....

  17. Who? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Taryn Southern [... ] (is) using artificial intelligence platforms to create an entire album.

    And soon someone will replace her with a vocaloid.

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  18. Who gets the ASCAP fees? by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    Does all the money go to the singer? Does the AI have representation? Does the AI make flaky demands like no brown M&Ms in the green room?

    1. Re:Who gets the ASCAP fees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I assume that the "brown M&M's" reference is referring to the legendary Van Halen performance contract clause stipulating that there would be M&M's but no brown ones in the dressing room. The rational for the clause actually made some sense. "The M&Ms provision was included in Van Halen’s contracts not as an act of caprice, but because it served a practical purpose: to provide a simple way of determining whether the technical specifications of the contract had been thoroughly read and complied with." More info here:

      http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/vanhalen.asp

    2. Re:Who gets the ASCAP fees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All it definitively demonstrates is that the M&M clause has been read and complied with. I've certainly encountered contracts in which the letter of some minor, but relatively inexpensive to meet, elements are perfectly satisfied but other elements, often more expensive ones, have not been.

  19. Gyms will save a bundle by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

    Instead of paying to license newest crappy tunes they'll just buy the software once and autogenerate a bunch of different songs to play every day.

  20. Bach to the Future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everything old is new again: Undiscovered Bach? No, a Computer Wrote It

  21. I've been playing with this for a long time now by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 1

    Well, a few months anyway. My "songs" (well, machine learning neural network) are here, if anyone wants to listen to them. The Char-RNN creates all the lyrics, song titles, and notes. I was particularly amused by the song title "I'm Almost Human" https://soundcloud.com/user-34... The data file feeding the NN was of death metal lyrics. The tunes are far too happy to match (I'm not a musician, and only working with a limited set of free .MIDI instruments/tools) but the actual lyrics (not printed on the site) are pretty dark/esoteric/weird (as to be expected by a Neural Network)

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  22. just what the world needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just what the world needs. another boop beep boop boop beep, boop beep boop boop beep, boop beep boop boop beep, boop beep boop boop beep, boop beep boop boop beep.

    1. Re:just what the world needs by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Take it away R2D2, ladies & gentlemen, he's the man!...

  23. Autotune by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, her singing in the linked video is pretty much artificial, so the writing might as well be, too.

  24. not new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    David Cope has been doing this for 30 years, and has published thousands of compositions.

  25. My experience by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have experimented with computer-composed music, and conclude it's fairly easy to make "pleasant" music: the rules for western ear expectations are fairly straight forward; stay within the rules and it'll sound "normal".

    Markov-like chains of "hit tune" chord progressions can be mined, for example, to find decent chords. And there are fairly obvious rules for how the melody moves around a given chord and chord transitions, if you simply study diagrams/plots of several hits. The melody "likes" certain distances and relationships with regard to the active chord, sort of reminiscent of the probabilistic modelling of electron orbits (positions) relative to the center of the the atom. One can fine-tune the extraction of such patterns/formulas using statistics and AI (although I just eye-balled most of it myself and used some trial-and-error).

    Now whether anyone finds music generated from such pattern mining highly entertaining and/or moving is another matter. For one, such is subjective: a pattern or technique that one person really likes, another may not. The hard part is not really generating ideas, but culling them. AI may indeed be able to cull based on patterns of existing hits to find a bigger audience, but after a while the easy-to-find patterns will get tired and stale to listeners. The low-hanging fruit will be all picked and people will want something different. It's why fads like disco, auto-tune, emo rock, and techno come and go.

    Even if AI-using composers hone their techniques of generating candidate music, the hard part will still be culling against actual listeners: after all, AI does not buy music: only actual human "testers" will suffice. The cost of testing (getting listeners) will be about the same regardless of whether a tune is composed by a human or machine. Thus, you need to make sure the bot's quality is competitive with a human, or you are wasting money. On the web you still have to pay for attention (unless you get really lucky with cute hamsters or the like).

    Another thing, my "music machines" tend to sound like my hand-composed music. It's modelling my own head more or less being I tune it based on my preference and by grabbing samples of stuff I like in order to extract patterns from. Thus, the artificial composer is sort of an extension of myself. It's just "implementing" my preferences.

    1. Re:My experience by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      > Markov-like chains of "hit tune" chord progressions can be mined, for example, to find decent chords.

      Hell, even a 4 note chord" works. (Axis of Awesome)

    2. Re:My experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      May I ask what it is you use to generate music?

    3. Re:My experience by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      And closely related to the "4-chords":

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      But do note (no pun intended) that my experiments were mostly focused on early classical music. "Bach era", if you will. (I even put one on SoundCloud, but don't feel like giving a link out just yet.)

    4. Re:My experience by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      May I ask what it is you use to generate music?

      The "auto-composer" generates either MIDI or MIDI-like codes*, which I then feed into a MIDI player (synthesizer) of some kind. I also experimented with the "csound" library to actually generate sound (.WAV files), which gives one more control over the wave-forms, but I decided that's too much micromanagement needed by the bot, and went back to MIDI players. (Csound is fun to play with, though. It's better for "spacey" music than traditional.)

      Keep in mind these are hobbyist and experimental gizmos. If I were a music pro (not) it would typically be converted into traditional "music sheet" staff notation and given to the band/orchestra to practice and play. Synthesizers are just a cheap shortcut, at least for a traditional sound.

      * I like to generate an intermediate form that's a higher abstraction than MIDI (but later converted to MIDI), something like the following table (or CSV) structure:

      - beat number, or maybe just a "new beat" marker
      - channel (instrument)
      - note number (note position on the keyboard or equiv.)
      - start tick (Example: 4th tick out of 8)
      - duration in ticks
      - velocity (intensity)
      - misc. special effects indicators, such as bend or slow ramp-up

      Ticks are typically 8 per beat, but may be 16 for intricate music, or 6 per beat for 3/4 time (great for Renascence tunes). I'm not guaranteeing I'm using official vocab here.

      Further, I recently devised a kind of musical ASCII short-hand that gives a current-chord perspective instead of an absolute "note" position perspective. It's real nutty, but I like it. It makes one think about melodies different than the usual approach. It's interesting how a different notation makes one think differently about song construction because it highlights patterns not readily visible in the typical approach. It's roughly comparable to the feeling of using polar coordinates instead of X/Y coordinates. Certain kinds of math transformations are just easier with polar coordinates when dealing with round stuff.

    5. Re:My experience by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      LOL! Hadn't seen that one. Priceless!

    6. Re:My experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you still have to pay for attention (unless you get really lucky with cute hamsters or the like).

      Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I hope that is not about romance.

  26. false by about two decades by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It's the first LP to be entirely composed and produced with AI"

    Uh, false. "Classical Music Composed by Computer: Experiments in Musical Intelligence" was released in 1997 by David Cope.

  27. Sounds like it sucks by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    No, I haven't heard it, maybe I'll find a way, but my initial reaction, considering how shitty so-called inappropriately-named 'AI' is, is that it'll suck.

  28. Generative music by sound+vision · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is called generative music, and it's not new. Since this is Slashdot, you may recall that the music in Spore was entirely machine-generated, in real-time no less. No pre-recording, no overdubs. The man behind the Spore music, Brian Eno, has been experimenting with music based on rules and randomness (but not computers) since 1975, using a deck of special cards, calling it "oblique strategies".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Calling it "AI" instead doesn't make it new. But hey, I guess some random YouTube douche needSUBSCRIBE NOW SUBSCRIBE NOW SUBSCRIBE NOW

  29. Apparently not open source either by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Southern used an open source AI platform called Amper Music

    Poor language is not the only problem with TFA. Amper Music doesn't seem to be open source either.

  30. Comic Strip written by AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a comic strip written by AI reacting to online dating profiles called Robonk.
    http://www.robonk.com

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